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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news |
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"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news"
Looks like 50 and up at the moment
And I'd assume anyone under that age group who are vulnerable
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news
Looks like 50 and up at the moment
And I'd assume anyone under that age group who are vulnerable
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That where I was…… I did also notice the recommendation was to give the flu jab at the same time as jab 3… so will be interesting to see how they organise it |
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"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news
Looks like 50 and up at the moment
And I'd assume anyone under that age group who are vulnerable
That where I was…… I did also notice the recommendation was to give the flu jab at the same time as jab 3… so will be interesting to see how they organise it"
Not sure to be honest
My parents (both 65+) have their flu jab at a local pharmacy and have it already booked in soon.
As the booster jabs have only just been announced they have no idea yet when they're due.
But in general I suppose they could do both at once if they coincidence |
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Here you go OP
Older adults living in residential homes
Front-line healthcare and social care workers
All adults ages 50 and over
All those aged 16 to 49 with underlying health conditions
Adult household contacts of immunosupressed individuals |
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"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news
Looks like 50 and up at the moment
And I'd assume anyone under that age group who are vulnerable
That where I was…… I did also notice the recommendation was to give the flu jab at the same time as jab 3… so will be interesting to see how they organise it
Not sure to be honest
My parents (both 65+) have their flu jab at a local pharmacy and have it already booked in soon.
As the booster jabs have only just been announced they have no idea yet when they're due.
But in general I suppose they could do both at once if they coincidence"
Got mine booked at the surgery for this Saturday, I'll have to see if they can do the booster at the same time. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?."
It's an odd one. I understand pfizer was the vaccine of choice for under 40s (or 50s?) but as the booster's will go to mostly over 50s you'd have thought AZ would be prevalent as well
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"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news
Looks like 50 and up at the moment
And I'd assume anyone under that age group who are vulnerable
That where I was…… I did also notice the recommendation was to give the flu jab at the same time as jab 3… so will be interesting to see how they organise it
Not sure to be honest
My parents (both 65+) have their flu jab at a local pharmacy and have it already booked in soon.
As the booster jabs have only just been announced they have no idea yet when they're due.
But in general I suppose they could do both at once if they coincidence
Got mine booked at the surgery for this Saturday, I'll have to see if they can do the booster at the same time. "
No I'll have to wait till start of November for my booster jab, so just the flu vaccination for me on Saturday.. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It's an odd one. I understand pfizer was the vaccine of choice for under 40s (or 50s?) but as the booster's will go to mostly over 50s you'd have thought AZ would be prevalent as well
It depends on stocking and what deals have been made with the suppliers probably"
It's very odd considering one costs 3 quid and the other 35 quid and there's nothing really in the data to split efficacy. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?."
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3….. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It's an odd one. I understand pfizer was the vaccine of choice for under 40s (or 50s?) but as the booster's will go to mostly over 50s you'd have thought AZ would be prevalent as well
It depends on stocking and what deals have been made with the suppliers probably
It's very odd considering one costs 3 quid and the other 35 quid and there's nothing really in the data to split efficacy."
I didn't realise there was such a disparity. Typical yanks lol.
Luckily Bobo has just upped the NI for the NHS and care home's so he can afford to splash out for the pfizer |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?."
This where I got confused as they also mentioned a half dose of Moderna.
When someone asked about AZ the response was
Lim is also asked why we are not using AstraZeneca jabs as boosters.
He says the AZ is a "very good vaccine for its primary cause".
"For a range of reasons including simplicity and delivery of the programme we felt that overall there was a preference for mRNA vaccines for a booster dose," he says.
Chief executive of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, Dr June Raine, says AZ is a "safe and very effective vaccine".
She says: "If the decision is that you would have it for your booster then... be reassured that it will be effective."
So does that mean AZ available as well ? |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3….. "
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster "
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.  |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer. "
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. "
AZ was particularly made in a way that made it easier to administer so I don't know where your getting that info from and secondly the vast majority of people recieving the booster will be over 40. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. "
easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it? |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?"
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Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer.
AZ was particularly made in a way that made it easier to administer so I don't know where your getting that info from and secondly the vast majority of people recieving the booster will be over 40."
You are wrong. Anybody who is and NAS worker or care homeworker or in groups 4 and 6 who are under 50 will also receive the vaccine and that makes up 15 million of 25 million in those groups. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
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It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not. "
Easier to just get the one supply in I guess
Bet AZ are miffed. They was s lot of fanfare for them being the world leaders and Pfizer being the 1st choice at this stage must be a slap in the face |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer. "
I’ll probably be doing the same. Personally if I need a third, I’d rather it be the product I’ve already had. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Easier to just get the one supply in I guess
Bet AZ are miffed. They was s lot of fanfare for them being the world leaders and Pfizer being the 1st choice at this stage must be a slap in the face"
I was actually just listening to something on the radio and it was a hospital doctor who was saying the reason Phizer is preferred is mainly logistical and all so AZ is easier to store so makes sense to keep it for if we need it at a later date but alot of it is being donated to covax. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not. "
Like I pointed out before 85% of boosters will be over 40.
It's rather a mute point. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Like I pointed out before 85% of boosters will be over 40.
It's rather a mute point."
And as i pointed out you are wrong. 15 million people under 50 are also being offered the booster. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not. "
Plus they did research that mixing vaccines gave a higher level of protection than taking a 3rd jab of the same vaccine…. So I am guessing that those who got AZ will get Pfizer, and those who got Pfizer may get Moderna…… |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Plus they did research that mixing vaccines gave a higher level of protection than taking a 3rd jab of the same vaccine…. So I am guessing that those who got AZ will get Pfizer, and those who got Pfizer may get Moderna……"
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Like I pointed out before 85% of boosters will be over 40.
It's rather a mute point.
And as i pointed out you are wrong. 15 million people under 50 are also being offered the booster. "
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So what,AZ is available to anybody over 30 according to its licence. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Like I pointed out before 85% of boosters will be over 40.
It's rather a mute point.
And as i pointed out you are wrong. 15 million people under 50 are also being offered the booster. .
So what,AZ is available to anybody over 30 according to its licence."
However it is not advised for anybody under 40 I and 38 and was advised to have the Pfizer because there is a high risk of a blood clot in anyone under 40 so on the whole it is only being offered to people over the age of 40.
If you don't want it that's up to you but you are wrong when you say but 85% of people who will receive the booster will be over 40 because thats not ture. 30 million people are being offered the booster that's well over half the adult population and the under 40's make up around 38% of that number so to me it make logistical sense to offer the same one. |
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Its because they can tweak the pfizer vaccine to cope with any new strain easier than they could possibly rework the AZ
We have lots of new strains to come and need the best protection we can get from potential serious illness this winter |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Plus they did research that mixing vaccines gave a higher level of protection than taking a 3rd jab of the same vaccine…. So I am guessing that those who got AZ will get Pfizer, and those who got Pfizer may get Moderna……
Thats my understanding too. "
I think your understanding is wrong, most of the studies was about mixing two separate vaccines in one dose and the other few was a single dose of AZ followed with a single dose of Pfizer.
I've yet to see a study showing efficacy difference between Pfizer and moderna (but it's possible I've missed it).
All the studies showed slightly increased antibody response when doing it but concluded safety data and small scale reactions needed more investigation so I don't think that's got anything to do with the government using Pfizer only for a third booster. |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Like I pointed out before 85% of boosters will be over 40.
It's rather a mute point.
And as i pointed out you are wrong. 15 million people under 50 are also being offered the booster. .
So what,AZ is available to anybody over 30 according to its licence.
However it is not advised for anybody under 40 I and 38 and was advised to have the Pfizer because there is a high risk of a blood clot in anyone under 40 so on the whole it is only being offered to people over the age of 40.
If you don't want it that's up to you but you are wrong when you say but 85% of people who will receive the booster will be over 40 because thats not ture. 30 million people are being offered the booster that's well over half the adult population and the under 40's make up around 38% of that number so to me it make logistical sense to offer the same one. "
So your admitting you were wrong to quote the age of 50?
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Like I pointed out before 85% of boosters will be over 40.
It's rather a mute point.
And as i pointed out you are wrong. 15 million people under 50 are also being offered the booster. .
So what,AZ is available to anybody over 30 according to its licence.
However it is not advised for anybody under 40 I and 38 and was advised to have the Pfizer because there is a high risk of a blood clot in anyone under 40 so on the whole it is only being offered to people over the age of 40.
If you don't want it that's up to you but you are wrong when you say but 85% of people who will receive the booster will be over 40 because thats not ture. 30 million people are being offered the booster that's well over half the adult population and the under 40's make up around 38% of that number so to me it make logistical sense to offer the same one.
So your admitting you were wrong to quote the age of 50?
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No I have given you factual information telling you that it is not just the over fifties that are receiving the booster vaccination and that 15 million people are under 50 and 38% of those are under 40. Are you going to admit you are wrong that 85% of the people going to receive the booster vaccine are over 50? I really dont understand why you are choosing to argue with me i have given you the facts and you can do with them as you please.  |
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Plus they did research that mixing vaccines gave a higher level of protection than taking a 3rd jab of the same vaccine…. So I am guessing that those who got AZ will get Pfizer, and those who got Pfizer may get Moderna……
Thats my understanding too.
I think your understanding is wrong, most of the studies was about mixing two separate vaccines in one dose and the other few was a single dose of AZ followed with a single dose of Pfizer.
I've yet to see a study showing efficacy difference between Pfizer and moderna (but it's possible I've missed it).
All the studies showed slightly increased antibody response when doing it but concluded safety data and small scale reactions needed more investigation so I don't think that's got anything to do with the government using Pfizer only for a third booster."
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It’s because Pfizer has full uk and eu authorisation and Moderna doesn’t quite yet… and supply means it’s easier to get Pfizer vaccine
I think the interesting part is that they are not recommending AZ for jab 3…..
But only five days ago MHRA said both Pfizer & AZ were approved for booster
Yes it's quite curious, if we're not given the choice we will sadly be declining the booster of Pfizer.
There's no conspiracy theory it's just a supply issue there is much more availability of the phizer than the AZ plus easier to administer because lots of people under 40 would only be able to have the Pfizer. easier to administer really? I thought the a.z one was easier dosent the other one need special storage,thats why some places wernt using it as they couldnt store it?.
Government inventory shows 58 million doses of AZ available from the 400 million doses ordered.
Theres 70 million people in the UK, I'm pretty sure the stock pile would cover the entire single dose booster.
It's because Phizer is fully approved for all age groups where as AZ is not.
Like I pointed out before 85% of boosters will be over 40.
It's rather a mute point.
And as i pointed out you are wrong. 15 million people under 50 are also being offered the booster. .
So what,AZ is available to anybody over 30 according to its licence.
However it is not advised for anybody under 40 I and 38 and was advised to have the Pfizer because there is a high risk of a blood clot in anyone under 40 so on the whole it is only being offered to people over the age of 40.
If you don't want it that's up to you but you are wrong when you say but 85% of people who will receive the booster will be over 40 because thats not ture. 30 million people are being offered the booster that's well over half the adult population and the under 40's make up around 38% of that number so to me it make logistical sense to offer the same one.
So your admitting you were wrong to quote the age of 50?
No I have given you factual information telling you that it is not just the over fifties that are receiving the booster vaccination and that 15 million people are under 50 and 38% of those are under 40. Are you going to admit you are wrong that 85% of the people going to receive the booster vaccine are over 50? I really dont understand why you are choosing to argue with me i have given you the facts and you can do with them as you please. "
No I think your making figures up from the top of your head.
EVERYBODY over 30 can have AZ by licence, it does not have a high incidence of blood clots to natural blood clots anybody above that age range, your talking nonsense, the prevalence of blood clots in every study I've read shows no significant difference between AZ and any mRNA vaccine, again I'll ask you to site a study that shows otherwise?.
Now the government have announced everybody over 50 (they can all have AZ) will get a booster after six months since there last vaccine date.
Theres 65 million in the UK.
15 million are under 18 they will not get a booster shot. The median age in the UK is 41
32.5 million are aged over 40(they can all have AZ).
Where are you getting 15 million people that require Pfizer from?.
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"Looks like it's a single Pfizer dose regardless of what vaccine you had before!.
Looks like Pfizer is currently the vaccine of choice for those decision makers and I've no idea why?.
It's an odd one. I understand pfizer was the vaccine of choice for under 40s (or 50s?) but as the booster's will go to mostly over 50s you'd have thought AZ would be prevalent as well
It depends on stocking and what deals have been made with the suppliers probably
It's very odd considering one costs 3 quid and the other 35 quid and there's nothing really in the data to split efficacy.
I didn't realise there was such a disparity. Typical yanks lol.
Luckily Bobo has just upped the NI for the NHS and care home's so he can afford to splash out for the pfizer"
Care homes are 80% private.
And NI, while supposedly ringfenced, is not; since it goes into the NI fund which can be used for anything.
It is also a tax on the lower paid. |
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"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news
Looks like 50 and up at the moment
And I'd assume anyone under that age group who are vulnerable
That where I was…… I did also notice the recommendation was to give the flu jab at the same time as jab 3… so will be interesting to see how they organise it"
Especially as no testing has taken place with flu and covid jabs simultaneously.
A reminder that flu jabs for those over 60 have an adjuvant added to promote a stronger immune response |
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I read on business standard back in Aug i know its not a medical journal, that mrna vaccines like Pfizer need a heterogeneous booster to strengthen and prolong immune response, and that pfizer may run trails using sputnik light to use has a booster shot or 3rd jab. |
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"I read on business standard back in Aug i know its not a medical journal, that mrna vaccines like Pfizer need a heterogeneous booster to strengthen and prolong immune response, and that pfizer may run trails using sputnik light to use has a booster shot or 3rd jab."
Heterologous!.
Again as I told the lady above this involves different vaccines of a different type and that wouldn't include Pfizer and Modena.
I think both of the people that quoted that are misunderstanding vaccines and the studies evolved. |
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"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news"
Over 50’s and healthcare workers |
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"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news
Over 50’s and healthcare workers "
And group 4 and possibly group 6. |
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"The co-developer of the Oxford vaccine, Dame Sarah Gilbert, has also said she "doesn't think we need to boost everybody as AZ is still showing strong efficacy"."
We are not boosting everyone |
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There should be 6 months after the 2nd vaccination before you have the booster.
Pfizer has been recommended for the booster, because it is more effective against the delta variant which is the issue currently and because it can be given to all age groups.
(That's the verbal information given at the vaccination centre I'm at)
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"There should be 6 months after the 2nd vaccination before you have the booster.
Pfizer has been recommended for the booster, because it is more effective against the delta variant which is the issue currently and because it can be given to all age groups.
(That's the verbal information given at the vaccination centre I'm at)
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"There should be 6 months after the 2nd vaccination before you have the booster.
Pfizer has been recommended for the booster, because it is more effective against the delta variant which is the issue currently and because it can be given to all age groups.
(That's the verbal information given at the vaccination centre I'm at)
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Initially yes but even the governments papers say it declines quicker than AZ and to similar levels of AZ
Even the government paper on AZ updated on 9 September states ‘ There are no data available on the interchangeability of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca with other COVID-19 vaccines to complete the vaccination course’.
So that is one of the reasons people are questioning why they can’t have a third dose of AZ instead of switching vaccine types.
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"The co-developer of the Oxford vaccine, Dame Sarah Gilbert, has also said she "doesn't think we need to boost everybody as AZ is still showing strong efficacy".
We are not boosting everyone "
The discrepancy here is that the developer of the AZ Vax doesn't think everyone with the AZ Vax needs a booster. But it's the people who who have had the AZ jab (the over 50s) are the one's being boosted as the under 50s mostly had pfizer |
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"The co-developer of the Oxford vaccine, Dame Sarah Gilbert, has also said she "doesn't think we need to boost everybody as AZ is still showing strong efficacy".
We are not boosting everyone
The discrepancy here is that the developer of the AZ Vax doesn't think everyone with the AZ Vax needs a booster. But it's the people who who have had the AZ jab (the over 50s) are the one's being boosted as the under 50s mostly had pfizer"
Actually that's not entirely true.
The first 3 million who where mostly those over 80 had Phizer as that was the only one available. |
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I heard it as over 50s, plus vulnerable people, in the same roll-out order as initially, plus at a minimum of 6 months from the 2nd dose. Greater investment by those already vaccinated, for the benefit of everyone and also made more important because of those who haven't been vaccinated by choice. We also need to protest those who are unable to be vaccinated. |
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"The co-developer of the Oxford vaccine, Dame Sarah Gilbert, has also said she "doesn't think we need to boost everybody as AZ is still showing strong efficacy".
We are not boosting everyone
The discrepancy here is that the developer of the AZ Vax doesn't think everyone with the AZ Vax needs a booster. But it's the people who who have had the AZ jab (the over 50s) are the one's being boosted as the under 50s mostly had pfizer
Actually that's not entirely true.
The first 3 million who where mostly those over 80 had Phizer as that was the only one available. "
That's right, think Pfizer was in use start of December and AZ was start of January? |
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"Someone here should be able to help me out here…
I am working so have the mute button on whilst watching this press conference….
Is it that everyone in the top 4 groups are going to be offered another jab?
Just being confused by the rolling scroll on sky news
Looks like 50 and up at the moment
And I'd assume anyone under that age group who are vulnerable
That where I was…… I did also notice the recommendation was to give the flu jab at the same time as jab 3… so will be interesting to see how they organise it"
Got my flu jab on 2nd October and 3rd Jab booked in 5 days from now. |
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