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"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure?" Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol"  that is SO true | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol" For the most part, when people are talking about the nwo, it's not so much things that are constantly being done, moreso a system that has been built up and tweaked over centuries, little bits at a time. Unfortunately, conspiracy theories don't just stem from nowhere, they stem from a deep mistrust of people with vast fortunes and corporations that control huge diverse parts of our consumption and sometimes society, for example news and media corporations who own a huge amount of news sources and can easily sway a nations narrative with a single report. | |||
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"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ??" How is "the government" going to penetrate me?  | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me? "Well, "the government" has collaborated with every other "the government" in the world to release a genetically tailored infectious agent, so that they can kill millions of people and ruin the economies of basically every country, in order to make people volunteer to queue up to be injected with another genetically tailored substance which has cost trillions of pounds to develop, so that all those people can be traced and forced to show a "passport" everywhere they go, because of ???? maybe magnetism/aliens/illuminati/new world order/ancient masters of the universe/the matrix/fuck knows... Personally if I wanted to control everyone I would just chuck something in the water supply or in Big Mac burgers, or maybe shove it in stuff that they would pay money for to snort up their nose... Like it's a billion times easier than some infinitely complicated conspiracy that involves every single person on the planet taking part in it but telling no-one, you could do it in a weekend instead of this eternally drawn out "pandemic" scam, and it wouldn't cost trillions of pounds and the destruction of every economy. The governments can already track every person that they have any interest in, but basically 99.9999% of people have lives that no government gives a fuck about. And lets face it, if the world governments were indulging in this vast conspiracy that has tendrils into everywhere, what would the first thing be that they would do? They would pick up and close down every individual that knew anything about the conspiracy. By definition, if it's a conspiracy that some dude is selling you on the internet, it's bollocks. Because everyone that knew about the real conspiracy has already been silenced... | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ??" | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me?
Well, "the government" has collaborated with every other "the government" in the world to release a genetically tailored infectious agent, so that they can kill millions of people and ruin the economies of basically every country, in order to make people volunteer to queue up to be injected with another genetically tailored substance which has cost trillions of pounds to develop, so that all those people can be traced and forced to show a "passport" everywhere they go, because of ???? maybe magnetism/aliens/illuminati/new world order/ancient masters of the universe/the matrix/fuck knows...
Personally if I wanted to control everyone I would just chuck something in the water supply or in Big Mac burgers, or maybe shove it in stuff that they would pay money for to snort up their nose... Like it's a billion times easier than some infinitely complicated conspiracy that involves every single person on the planet taking part in it but telling no-one, you could do it in a weekend instead of this eternally drawn out "pandemic" scam, and it wouldn't cost trillions of pounds and the destruction of every economy.
The governments can already track every person that they have any interest in, but basically 99.9999% of people have lives that no government gives a fuck about. And lets face it, if the world governments were indulging in this vast conspiracy that has tendrils into everywhere, what would the first thing be that they would do? They would pick up and close down every individual that knew anything about the conspiracy. By definition, if it's a conspiracy that some dude is selling you on the internet, it's bollocks. Because everyone that knew about the real conspiracy has already been silenced..."Stop being so logical, you know it has no place on here 
The thing is, the chance of so many countries/groups agreeing on any one thing, is beyond improbable anyway. | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me?
Well, "the government" has collaborated with every other "the government" in the world to release a genetically tailored infectious agent, so that they can kill millions of people and ruin the economies of basically every country, in order to make people volunteer to queue up to be injected with another genetically tailored substance which has cost trillions of pounds to develop, so that all those people can be traced and forced to show a "passport" everywhere they go, because of ???? maybe magnetism/aliens/illuminati/new world order/ancient masters of the universe/the matrix/fuck knows...
Personally if I wanted to control everyone I would just chuck something in the water supply or in Big Mac burgers, or maybe shove it in stuff that they would pay money for to snort up their nose... Like it's a billion times easier than some infinitely complicated conspiracy that involves every single person on the planet taking part in it but telling no-one, you could do it in a weekend instead of this eternally drawn out "pandemic" scam, and it wouldn't cost trillions of pounds and the destruction of every economy.
The governments can already track every person that they have any interest in, but basically 99.9999% of people have lives that no government gives a fuck about. And lets face it, if the world governments were indulging in this vast conspiracy that has tendrils into everywhere, what would the first thing be that they would do? They would pick up and close down every individual that knew anything about the conspiracy. By definition, if it's a conspiracy that some dude is selling you on the internet, it's bollocks. Because everyone that knew about the real conspiracy has already been silenced...
Stop being so logical, you know it has no place on here
The thing is, the chance of so many countries/groups agreeing on any one thing, is beyond improbable anyway. "If such a conspiracy was attempted, it'd be leaked a few weeks beforehand. Country A would be mad that Country B wanted to use masks not visors. Country B would disagree on vaccine passports. Country C would think that we should pay for vaccines to truly understand the depths of our servitude. So there'd be leaks from all the governments about how all the governments suck and how only they want to save us from the other country's tyranny. (And the opposition are tyrants too) | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me?
Well, "the government" has collaborated with every other "the government" in the world to release a genetically tailored infectious agent, so that they can kill millions of people and ruin the economies of basically every country, in order to make people volunteer to queue up to be injected with another genetically tailored substance which has cost trillions of pounds to develop, so that all those people can be traced and forced to show a "passport" everywhere they go, because of ???? maybe magnetism/aliens/illuminati/new world order/ancient masters of the universe/the matrix/fuck knows...
Personally if I wanted to control everyone I would just chuck something in the water supply or in Big Mac burgers, or maybe shove it in stuff that they would pay money for to snort up their nose... Like it's a billion times easier than some infinitely complicated conspiracy that involves every single person on the planet taking part in it but telling no-one, you could do it in a weekend instead of this eternally drawn out "pandemic" scam, and it wouldn't cost trillions of pounds and the destruction of every economy.
The governments can already track every person that they have any interest in, but basically 99.9999% of people have lives that no government gives a fuck about. And lets face it, if the world governments were indulging in this vast conspiracy that has tendrils into everywhere, what would the first thing be that they would do? They would pick up and close down every individual that knew anything about the conspiracy. By definition, if it's a conspiracy that some dude is selling you on the internet, it's bollocks. Because everyone that knew about the real conspiracy has already been silenced...
Stop being so logical, you know it has no place on here
The thing is, the chance of so many countries/groups agreeing on any one thing, is beyond improbable anyway.
If such a conspiracy was attempted, it'd be leaked a few weeks beforehand. Country A would be mad that Country B wanted to use masks not visors. Country B would disagree on vaccine passports. Country C would think that we should pay for vaccines to truly understand the depths of our servitude.
So there'd be leaks from all the governments about how all the governments suck and how only they want to save us from the other country's tyranny. (And the opposition are tyrants too)" | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure?" It's more to do with the bars that some people see and others that do not. | |||
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"You can understand why conspiracy theories exist, and that's because most if not all governments are not a force for good The best you can hope for from government is just incompetence. At worst it's sheer corruption. For instance, instead of properly funding the national healthcare system, it's easier to tell people to stay the fuck home because they need to 'protect the NHS'. The reason we need to protect the NHS is because of the shambolic job the government (both major parties to be fair) have done of making it work If there's one thing that we expect, it's government failing us. And it's a fucking crying shame that we're all so bloody used to it we accept it as oar for the course" Yes, agree with every word of this. And the conspiracy nonsense just detracts people from doing anything real about it. | |||
"Look at the American health care system. They don't want it nationalised because of their distrust of anything government run We are repulsed by the ideas of an insurance system where you have to pay private companies for cover (like the yanks) because we don't trust our health to insurance companies who we feel are always looking for ways to weasel out of the contract The fucking awful thing is that everyone has a fair point That being said, I'd pick the NHS over the uank system any day of the week" The NHS was a socialist construct for a socialist united Kingdom I fear it will be split up and sold off under the cloak of pfi and ppp mechanisms which the NHS is already suffering from. | |||
"I know it’s hard for some people to hear but literally no one of any significance cares about you, no one has created a global conspiracy to control your behaviour and to take away your freedoms. That’s because you are an insignificant nobody who has so little influence on what happens in the world that it’s not worth bothering about you. None of us matter and if you’re ever faced with a choice of whether to believe it’s conspiracy or cock up, then it’s always cock up. The world is an unfair and chaotic place where bad things happen to good people and vice versa. I’m sorry I had to be the one to tell you." You are wrong. Example, votes. Each vote counts to someone who wants power. Every individual person is important to someone who wants power. Another couple of examples, consumers, every person is a sale made or a sale lost, data, advertisement companies want data on every individual person to tailor ads to each individual. So huge corporations globally who do care, in their own self interest, about millions of individuals. Huge corporations who want people to buy a certain way, take a certain medicine, drive a certain car, and who cover up the various damage that their products do. It's funny how people attribute conspiracies to one person or another dependent on whether they like them. I wonder who would disagree that Trump conspired to create a coup? Many say they saw the police allow the trumpers through the barriers? If they weren't stopped so one told them to stand down, right? People conspired for that to be allowed. Or that Bush and Blair conspired to create a war on terrorism? A 20 year war that stemmed from 2 men's lies and was mostly blindly carried along by the infrastructure of war? A conspiracy doesn't need millions of people to know, it just needs the right phrases plastered all over the media, who mostly don't care whether it's true or not as long as it creates clicks and sells papers. Fear is very easy to manipulate. | |||
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"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me?
Well, "the government" has collaborated with every other "the government" in the world to release a genetically tailored infectious agent, so that they can kill millions of people and ruin the economies of basically every country, in order to make people volunteer to queue up to be injected with another genetically tailored substance which has cost trillions of pounds to develop, so that all those people can be traced and forced to show a "passport" everywhere they go, because of ???? maybe magnetism/aliens/illuminati/new world order/ancient masters of the universe/the matrix/fuck knows...
Personally if I wanted to control everyone I would just chuck something in the water supply or in Big Mac burgers, or maybe shove it in stuff that they would pay money for to snort up their nose... Like it's a billion times easier than some infinitely complicated conspiracy that involves every single person on the planet taking part in it but telling no-one, you could do it in a weekend instead of this eternally drawn out "pandemic" scam, and it wouldn't cost trillions of pounds and the destruction of every economy.
The governments can already track every person that they have any interest in, but basically 99.9999% of people have lives that no government gives a fuck about. And lets face it, if the world governments were indulging in this vast conspiracy that has tendrils into everywhere, what would the first thing be that they would do? They would pick up and close down every individual that knew anything about the conspiracy. By definition, if it's a conspiracy that some dude is selling you on the internet, it's bollocks. Because everyone that knew about the real conspiracy has already been silenced..." | |||
"I know it’s hard for some people to hear but literally no one of any significance cares about you, no one has created a global conspiracy to control your behaviour and to take away your freedoms. That’s because you are an insignificant nobody who has so little influence on what happens in the world that it’s not worth bothering about you. None of us matter and if you’re ever faced with a choice of whether to believe it’s conspiracy or cock up, then it’s always cock up. The world is an unfair and chaotic place where bad things happen to good people and vice versa. I’m sorry I had to be the one to tell you." | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me?
Well, "the government" has collaborated with every other "the government" in the world to release a genetically tailored infectious agent, so that they can kill millions of people and ruin the economies of basically every country, in order to make people volunteer to queue up to be injected with another genetically tailored substance which has cost trillions of pounds to develop, so that all those people can be traced and forced to show a "passport" everywhere they go, because of ???? maybe magnetism/aliens/illuminati/new world order/ancient masters of the universe/the matrix/fuck knows...
Personally if I wanted to control everyone I would just chuck something in the water supply or in Big Mac burgers, or maybe shove it in stuff that they would pay money for to snort up their nose... Like it's a billion times easier than some infinitely complicated conspiracy that involves every single person on the planet taking part in it but telling no-one, you could do it in a weekend instead of this eternally drawn out "pandemic" scam, and it wouldn't cost trillions of pounds and the destruction of every economy.
The governments can already track every person that they have any interest in, but basically 99.9999% of people have lives that no government gives a fuck about. And lets face it, if the world governments were indulging in this vast conspiracy that has tendrils into everywhere, what would the first thing be that they would do? They would pick up and close down every individual that knew anything about the conspiracy. By definition, if it's a conspiracy that some dude is selling you on the internet, it's bollocks. Because everyone that knew about the real conspiracy has already been silenced..."AHH they've gotten to you I see...  | |||
"Look at the American health care system. They don't want it nationalised because of their distrust of anything government run We are repulsed by the ideas of an insurance system where you have to pay private companies for cover (like the yanks) because we don't trust our health to insurance companies who we feel are always looking for ways to weasel out of the contract The fucking awful thing is that everyone has a fair point That being said, I'd pick the NHS over the uank system any day of the week" Americans dont want a nationalised system because they have a "fuck you got mine" mindset. Paying into health insurance makes them think they've earned health care. The average American thinks "why should I pay for someone elses healthcare". I dont think its from a mistrust of anything government run. I lived in New York very briefly and even the idea of looking after a neighbours delivery was something no one could comprehend. American society is a selfish society. | |||
"Look at the American health care system. They don't want it nationalised because of their distrust of anything government run We are repulsed by the ideas of an insurance system where you have to pay private companies for cover (like the yanks) because we don't trust our health to insurance companies who we feel are always looking for ways to weasel out of the contract The fucking awful thing is that everyone has a fair point That being said, I'd pick the NHS over the uank system any day of the week Americans dont want a nationalised system because they have a "fuck you got mine" mindset. Paying into health insurance makes them think they've earned health care. The average American thinks "why should I pay for someone elses healthcare". I dont think its from a mistrust of anything government run. I lived in New York very briefly and even the idea of looking after a neighbours delivery was something no one could comprehend. American society is a selfish society." That's probably quite unfair to most of American society. I'm sure new york is very similar to London with people being very closed off to others due to being in a hectic city rat race, but if you go to other places outside the cities there is more community. I'm sure the same is true of the states | |||
"I know it’s hard for some people to hear but literally no one of any significance cares about you, no one has created a global conspiracy to control your behaviour and to take away your freedoms. That’s because you are an insignificant nobody who has so little influence on what happens in the world that it’s not worth bothering about you. None of us matter and if you’re ever faced with a choice of whether to believe it’s conspiracy or cock up, then it’s always cock up. The world is an unfair and chaotic place where bad things happen to good people and vice versa. I’m sorry I had to be the one to tell you." so true. | |||
"You are wrong. Example, votes. Each vote counts to someone who wants power. Every individual person is important to someone who wants power. " It really doesn't, there are very few people in the country whose votes count. Most seats are traditionally held by one party or another and it's large shifts that change this rather than small ones. "Another couple of examples, consumers, every person is a sale made or a sale lost, data, advertisement companies want data on every individual person to tailor ads to each individual. So huge corporations globally who do care, in their own self interest, about millions of individuals. " It's not the individuals that count to these corporations, if you don't fit in with what their algorhythms look at they ignore you. It's useful for corporations to see what lots of people buy, what trends are but not what the individiuals buy. If you are the only person who buys a particular item in your local Tesco, you can be pretty sure that your loical Tesco won't continue stocking it, despite what your clubcard data says. You just aren't worth the effort. "Huge corporations who want people to buy a certain way, take a certain medicine, drive a certain car, and who cover up the various damage that their products do. " You are conflating marketing with a focus on the inbdividual, the core purpose of marketing is to sell as much stuff to as many people in the cheapest way possible, it is the very definition of lowest common denominator. It picks the thing that resonates with the largest group and pushes it, there's no room for individuality in marketing, it's just not cost effective. "It's funny how people attribute conspiracies to one person or another dependent on whether they like them. I wonder who would disagree that Trump conspired to create a coup? Many say they saw the police allow the trumpers through the barriers? If they weren't stopped so one told them to stand down, right? People conspired for that to be allowed. " By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person, nobody says conspiracies don't happen but they are very limited in scope. January 6th wasn't something Trump designed to happen and play out as it did, he siomply failed to stop it happening. He took advantage of a situation rather than conspired to make it happen. "Or that Bush and Blair conspired to create a war on terrorism? A 20 year war that stemmed from 2 men's lies and was mostly blindly carried along by the infrastructure of war? " Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror. It's pretty much all come out in the wash too, because that's what happens with conspiracies, there is always someone who disagrees and blows the whistle once they get beyond a few true believers. "A conspiracy doesn't need millions of people to know, it just needs the right phrases plastered all over the media, who mostly don't care whether it's true or not as long as it creates clicks and sells papers. Fear is very easy to manipulate. " Again, this is not a conspiracy, it's blatant. We have had a right wing press in the UK that has unashamedly blamed foreigners for the faults of our leaders and ourselves. It has stoked xenophobia and outright racism to the point we committed economic suicide by leaving the EU. That wasn't a conspiracy, it was a stated aim and sadly the situation occurred where the stars aligned and people chose to believe the lies. I don't blame you for feeling that you matter, we've been conditioned for decades to believe that one person can make a real difference when in fact it's a combination of many things including luck, and timing that allow things to happen. Populist history is all about great men doing great things when in reality history is about mass movements and incremental shifts creating an environment that is right at that pint for someone to take advantage, or not. Hitler failed to take power on more than one occasionbefore he finally had it handed to him by people who a) thought they could control him, and b) were more scared oif communism than they were fascism. Winston Churchill had tried on many occasions to become Prime Minister before it happened, and it would never have happened without Hitler rising to power in Germany. Churechill seized the opportunity to lead a war against a man who he actually shared a great many beliefs. | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure?" To answer the OP, "freedom" in this context usually means libertarianism of some sort. Truther can be in the context of 9/11 narratives, although it seems to have evolved to mean more "I know the truth and it's not what the authorities are telling you" I hold both in equal regard. | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me? "Well I used to quite fancy Dominic Raab. Would he be the one penetrating me? | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me?
Well I used to quite fancy Dominic Raab. Would he be the one penetrating me? "Sadly not, as he will be on holiday, at a resort which costs half his annual salary for a week, he’ll delegate the job to one of his juniors who won’t actually do it. | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me?
Well I used to quite fancy Dominic Raab. Would he be the one penetrating me?
Sadly not, as he will be on holiday, at a resort which costs half his annual salary for a week, he’ll delegate the job to one of his juniors who won’t actually do it."Sounds a lot like fab then!  | |||
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"You are wrong. Example, votes. Each vote counts to someone who wants power. Every individual person is important to someone who wants power. It really doesn't, there are very few people in the country whose votes count. Most seats are traditionally held by one party or another and it's large shifts that change this rather than small ones. Another couple of examples, consumers, every person is a sale made or a sale lost, data, advertisement companies want data on every individual person to tailor ads to each individual. So huge corporations globally who do care, in their own self interest, about millions of individuals. It's not the individuals that count to these corporations, if you don't fit in with what their algorhythms look at they ignore you. It's useful for corporations to see what lots of people buy, what trends are but not what the individiuals buy. If you are the only person who buys a particular item in your local Tesco, you can be pretty sure that your loical Tesco won't continue stocking it, despite what your clubcard data says. You just aren't worth the effort. Huge corporations who want people to buy a certain way, take a certain medicine, drive a certain car, and who cover up the various damage that their products do. You are conflating marketing with a focus on the inbdividual, the core purpose of marketing is to sell as much stuff to as many people in the cheapest way possible, it is the very definition of lowest common denominator. It picks the thing that resonates with the largest group and pushes it, there's no room for individuality in marketing, it's just not cost effective. It's funny how people attribute conspiracies to one person or another dependent on whether they like them. I wonder who would disagree that Trump conspired to create a coup? Many say they saw the police allow the trumpers through the barriers? If they weren't stopped so one told them to stand down, right? People conspired for that to be allowed. By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person, nobody says conspiracies don't happen but they are very limited in scope. January 6th wasn't something Trump designed to happen and play out as it did, he siomply failed to stop it happening. He took advantage of a situation rather than conspired to make it happen. Or that Bush and Blair conspired to create a war on terrorism? A 20 year war that stemmed from 2 men's lies and was mostly blindly carried along by the infrastructure of war? Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror. It's pretty much all come out in the wash too, because that's what happens with conspiracies, there is always someone who disagrees and blows the whistle once they get beyond a few true believers. A conspiracy doesn't need millions of people to know, it just needs the right phrases plastered all over the media, who mostly don't care whether it's true or not as long as it creates clicks and sells papers. Fear is very easy to manipulate. Again, this is not a conspiracy, it's blatant. We have had a right wing press in the UK that has unashamedly blamed foreigners for the faults of our leaders and ourselves. It has stoked xenophobia and outright racism to the point we committed economic suicide by leaving the EU. That wasn't a conspiracy, it was a stated aim and sadly the situation occurred where the stars aligned and people chose to believe the lies. I don't blame you for feeling that you matter, we've been conditioned for decades to believe that one person can make a real difference when in fact it's a combination of many things including luck, and timing that allow things to happen. Populist history is all about great men doing great things when in reality history is about mass movements and incremental shifts creating an environment that is right at that pint for someone to take advantage, or not. Hitler failed to take power on more than one occasionbefore he finally had it handed to him by people who a) thought they could control him, and b) were more scared oif communism than they were fascism. Winston Churchill had tried on many occasions to become Prime Minister before it happened, and it would never have happened without Hitler rising to power in Germany. Churechill seized the opportunity to lead a war against a man who he actually shared a great many beliefs." Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media... Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over. And Just taking the example you provided of brexit, how is that not a conspiracy, certain people wanted a certain result and thus organised for a certain narrative to be pushed down peoples necks to ensure it happened? Not only that you contradicted yourself by saying "By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person" only to follow it up by saying "Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror". So which is it? Because I'm sure in a court of law, conspiracy charges are applied to groups of people not single individuals. I will give you though that it is difficult to see whether something and the fallout occurs due to design or whether something occurs and then certain parties take advantage of the fallout individually. | |||
"Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media..." I didn't blame all the nation's ills on the right wing media, I blamed Brexit and the rise of racism, you can extrapolate what you will from that but pleas don't attribute something to me I didn't say. "Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over." There is no such thing as a left wing corporation, corporations exist for one reason only, to make money. If a social media company bans certain things from being posted on its platfiorm it is doing that because it does not want to be in a situation where it is unable to make money. For instance in Germany it is illegal to spread holocaust denial, so social media companies ban holocaust denial from their platforms so they can continue to make money in Germany. Not because they are morally or politically inclined to do so. "And Just taking the example you provided of brexit, how is that not a conspiracy, certain people wanted a certain result and thus organised for a certain narrative to be pushed down peoples necks to ensure it happened?" Whilst Brexit is a result that came from the right woing media blaming foreigners for everything the owners of the Express, Sun, Star, Telegraph, Times etc. did not sit around in the 70s and hatch a big plot to get the UK to withdraw from the EU. Keeping people distracted from the real causes of issues by blaming foreigners was part of what they were after but that is something most capitalists and politicians on the right wanted to do, even Thatcher wasn't foolish enough to want us to leave the EU though! "Not only that you contradicted yourself by saying "By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person" only to follow it up by saying "Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror". So which is it? Because I'm sure in a court of law, conspiracy charges are applied to groups of people not single individuals." Read what I said again, there is no contradiction. "I will give you though that it is difficult to see whether something and the fallout occurs due to design or whether something occurs and then certain parties take advantage of the fallout individually. " Conspiracies happen all the time, none of them however are these huge nonsense conspiracy theories about a new world order and governments using Covid to remove our civil liberties. The current government is putting a bill through parliament which will cut our ciovil liberties, especially the right to protest but it is nothing to do with Covid and it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it blatantly because they can. | |||
"Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media... I didn't blame all the nation's ills on the right wing media, I blamed Brexit and the rise of racism, you can extrapolate what you will from that but pleas don't attribute something to me I didn't say. Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over. There is no such thing as a left wing corporation, corporations exist for one reason only, to make money. If a social media company bans certain things from being posted on its platfiorm it is doing that because it does not want to be in a situation where it is unable to make money. For instance in Germany it is illegal to spread holocaust denial, so social media companies ban holocaust denial from their platforms so they can continue to make money in Germany. Not because they are morally or politically inclined to do........ ...... The current government is putting a bill through parliament which will cut our ciovil liberties, especially the right to protest but it is nothing to do with Covid and it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it blatantly because they can." Cuts to civil liberties that also apply equally to the civil liberties of themselves, their families and friends. Most MPs spend little time in power, they have to live by the same rules they place on the rest of us and like the rest of us they bend the rules often. | |||
"Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media... I didn't blame all the nation's ills on the right wing media, I blamed Brexit and the rise of racism, you can extrapolate what you will from that but pleas don't attribute something to me I didn't say. Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over. There is no such thing as a left wing corporation, corporations exist for one reason only, to make money. If a social media company bans certain things from being posted on its platfiorm it is doing that because it does not want to be in a situation where it is unable to make money. For instance in Germany it is illegal to spread holocaust denial, so social media companies ban holocaust denial from their platforms so they can continue to make money in Germany. Not because they are morally or politically inclined to do so. And Just taking the example you provided of brexit, how is that not a conspiracy, certain people wanted a certain result and thus organised for a certain narrative to be pushed down peoples necks to ensure it happened? Whilst Brexit is a result that came from the right woing media blaming foreigners for everything the owners of the Express, Sun, Star, Telegraph, Times etc. did not sit around in the 70s and hatch a big plot to get the UK to withdraw from the EU. Keeping people distracted from the real causes of issues by blaming foreigners was part of what they were after but that is something most capitalists and politicians on the right wanted to do, even Thatcher wasn't foolish enough to want us to leave the EU though! Not only that you contradicted yourself by saying "By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person" only to follow it up by saying "Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror". So which is it? Because I'm sure in a court of law, conspiracy charges are applied to groups of people not single individuals. Read what I said again, there is no contradiction. I will give you though that it is difficult to see whether something and the fallout occurs due to design or whether something occurs and then certain parties take advantage of the fallout individually. Conspiracies happen all the time, none of them however are these huge nonsense conspiracy theories about a new world order and governments using Covid to remove our civil liberties. The current government is putting a bill through parliament which will cut our ciovil liberties, especially the right to protest but it is nothing to do with Covid and it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it blatantly because they can." But they can't, that's the thing, do you think for one second that if there wasn't such, I would say purposely designed and manufactured, division in the population that they would be able to just do what they want? Brexit is the perfect examplr, in fact I'd go as far as to saying the anti lockdown protesters too, they are the very first group of people that will kick up a fuss about it, but because of what they are associated to, ie Brexit and anti lockdown, are any people who oppose those two movements going to back them up? Probably not. Even though the bill affects everyone's rights to protest. But the division that has already been sown between so many groups makes it so that no full scale resistance to a government move is possible, because groups of different ideas will not work together. I would say that it is done purposefully from the start to enable less resistance for a move further down the line, I think you would be more of the notion that governments just capitalise in the moment. I don't think we are on entirely different pages, just I believe that things are planned more in advance a lot more than you do. We just look at things slightly differently | |||
"I’m not anti vax but…. Do your research before you let the government penetrate you for its own personal gain ?? How is "the government" going to penetrate me? "Through your bottom on the last Saturday night of the month. They did it to me last March when I was eating creme egg and watching BBC News. Didn't feel a thing. | |||
"Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media... I didn't blame all the nation's ills on the right wing media, I blamed Brexit and the rise of racism, you can extrapolate what you will from that but pleas don't attribute something to me I didn't say. Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over. There is no such thing as a left wing corporation, corporations exist for one reason only, to make money. If a social media company bans certain things from being posted on its platfiorm it is doing that because it does not want to be in a situation where it is unable to make money. For instance in Germany it is illegal to spread holocaust denial, so social media companies ban holocaust denial from their platforms so they can continue to make money in Germany. Not because they are morally or politically inclined to do........ ...... The current government is putting a bill through parliament which will cut our ciovil liberties, especially the right to protest but it is nothing to do with Covid and it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it blatantly because they can. Cuts to civil liberties that also apply equally to the civil liberties of themselves, their families and friends. Most MPs spend little time in power, they have to live by the same rules they place on the rest of us and like the rest of us they bend the rules often." Not the ones at the top. And the ones lower down the ladder are still afforded protection to save face for their particular party. They are constantly getting caught breaking the rules they make. With money and power you can bypass many of the rules and morals that the common population are ordered to adhere to. | |||
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"Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media... I didn't blame all the nation's ills on the right wing media, I blamed Brexit and the rise of racism, you can extrapolate what you will from that but pleas don't attribute something to me I didn't say. Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over. There is no such thing as a left wing corporation, corporations exist for one reason only, to make money. If a social media company bans certain things from being posted on its platfiorm it is doing that because it does not want to be in a situation where it is unable to make money. For instance in Germany it is illegal to spread holocaust denial, so social media companies ban holocaust denial from their platforms so they can continue to make money in Germany. Not because they are morally or politically inclined to do so. And Just taking the example you provided of brexit, how is that not a conspiracy, certain people wanted a certain result and thus organised for a certain narrative to be pushed down peoples necks to ensure it happened? Whilst Brexit is a result that came from the right woing media blaming foreigners for everything the owners of the Express, Sun, Star, Telegraph, Times etc. did not sit around in the 70s and hatch a big plot to get the UK to withdraw from the EU. Keeping people distracted from the real causes of issues by blaming foreigners was part of what they were after but that is something most capitalists and politicians on the right wanted to do, even Thatcher wasn't foolish enough to want us to leave the EU though! Not only that you contradicted yourself by saying "By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person" only to follow it up by saying "Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror". So which is it? Because I'm sure in a court of law, conspiracy charges are applied to groups of people not single individuals. Read what I said again, there is no contradiction. I will give you though that it is difficult to see whether something and the fallout occurs due to design or whether something occurs and then certain parties take advantage of the fallout individually. Conspiracies happen all the time, none of them however are these huge nonsense conspiracy theories about a new world order and governments using Covid to remove our civil liberties. The current government is putting a bill through parliament which will cut our ciovil liberties, especially the right to protest but it is nothing to do with Covid and it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it blatantly because they can. But they can't, that's the thing, do you think for one second that if there wasn't such, I would say purposely designed and manufactured, division in the population that they would be able to just do what they want? Brexit is the perfect examplr, in fact I'd go as far as to saying the anti lockdown protesters too, they are the very first group of people that will kick up a fuss about it, but because of what they are associated to, ie Brexit and anti lockdown, are any people who oppose those two movements going to back them up? Probably not. Even though the bill affects everyone's rights to protest. But the division that has already been sown between so many groups makes it so that no full scale resistance to a government move is possible, because groups of different ideas will not work together. I would say that it is done purposefully from the start to enable less resistance for a move further down the line, I think you would be more of the notion that governments just capitalise in the moment. I don't think we are on entirely different pages, just I believe that things are planned more in advance a lot more than you do. We just look at things slightly differently" But the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill 2021is already pretty much law. It has been pushed through double quick by a government with a massive majority and it will soon be law. It's not a conspiracy, it's being done right in front of us and people don't care. | |||
"Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media... I didn't blame all the nation's ills on the right wing media, I blamed Brexit and the rise of racism, you can extrapolate what you will from that but pleas don't attribute something to me I didn't say. Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over. There is no such thing as a left wing corporation, corporations exist for one reason only, to make money. If a social media company bans certain things from being posted on its platfiorm it is doing that because it does not want to be in a situation where it is unable to make money. For instance in Germany it is illegal to spread holocaust denial, so social media companies ban holocaust denial from their platforms so they can continue to make money in Germany. Not because they are morally or politically inclined to do so. And Just taking the example you provided of brexit, how is that not a conspiracy, certain people wanted a certain result and thus organised for a certain narrative to be pushed down peoples necks to ensure it happened? Whilst Brexit is a result that came from the right woing media blaming foreigners for everything the owners of the Express, Sun, Star, Telegraph, Times etc. did not sit around in the 70s and hatch a big plot to get the UK to withdraw from the EU. Keeping people distracted from the real causes of issues by blaming foreigners was part of what they were after but that is something most capitalists and politicians on the right wanted to do, even Thatcher wasn't foolish enough to want us to leave the EU though! Not only that you contradicted yourself by saying "By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person" only to follow it up by saying "Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror". So which is it? Because I'm sure in a court of law, conspiracy charges are applied to groups of people not single individuals. Read what I said again, there is no contradiction. I will give you though that it is difficult to see whether something and the fallout occurs due to design or whether something occurs and then certain parties take advantage of the fallout individually. Conspiracies happen all the time, none of them however are these huge nonsense conspiracy theories about a new world order and governments using Covid to remove our civil liberties. The current government is putting a bill through parliament which will cut our ciovil liberties, especially the right to protest but it is nothing to do with Covid and it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it blatantly because they can. But they can't, that's the thing, do you think for one second that if there wasn't such, I would say purposely designed and manufactured, division in the population that they would be able to just do what they want? Brexit is the perfect examplr, in fact I'd go as far as to saying the anti lockdown protesters too, they are the very first group of people that will kick up a fuss about it, but because of what they are associated to, ie Brexit and anti lockdown, are any people who oppose those two movements going to back them up? Probably not. Even though the bill affects everyone's rights to protest. But the division that has already been sown between so many groups makes it so that no full scale resistance to a government move is possible, because groups of different ideas will not work together. I would say that it is done purposefully from the start to enable less resistance for a move further down the line, I think you would be more of the notion that governments just capitalise in the moment. I don't think we are on entirely different pages, just I believe that things are planned more in advance a lot more than you do. We just look at things slightly differently But the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill 2021is already pretty much law. It has been pushed through double quick by a government with a massive majority and it will soon be law. It's not a conspiracy, it's being done right in front of us and people don't care." Curiously, the ‘freedom seekers’ raging against public health measures don’t seem to have much interest in that particular bill. | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol" What other nations? | |||
"Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media... I didn't blame all the nation's ills on the right wing media, I blamed Brexit and the rise of racism, you can extrapolate what you will from that but pleas don't attribute something to me I didn't say. Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over. There is no such thing as a left wing corporation, corporations exist for one reason only, to make money. If a social media company bans certain things from being posted on its platfiorm it is doing that because it does not want to be in a situation where it is unable to make money. For instance in Germany it is illegal to spread holocaust denial, so social media companies ban holocaust denial from their platforms so they can continue to make money in Germany. Not because they are morally or politically inclined to do so. And Just taking the example you provided of brexit, how is that not a conspiracy, certain people wanted a certain result and thus organised for a certain narrative to be pushed down peoples necks to ensure it happened? Whilst Brexit is a result that came from the right woing media blaming foreigners for everything the owners of the Express, Sun, Star, Telegraph, Times etc. did not sit around in the 70s and hatch a big plot to get the UK to withdraw from the EU. Keeping people distracted from the real causes of issues by blaming foreigners was part of what they were after but that is something most capitalists and politicians on the right wanted to do, even Thatcher wasn't foolish enough to want us to leave the EU though! Not only that you contradicted yourself by saying "By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person" only to follow it up by saying "Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror". So which is it? Because I'm sure in a court of law, conspiracy charges are applied to groups of people not single individuals. Read what I said again, there is no contradiction. I will give you though that it is difficult to see whether something and the fallout occurs due to design or whether something occurs and then certain parties take advantage of the fallout individually. Conspiracies happen all the time, none of them however are these huge nonsense conspiracy theories about a new world order and governments using Covid to remove our civil liberties. The current government is putting a bill through parliament which will cut our ciovil liberties, especially the right to protest but it is nothing to do with Covid and it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it blatantly because they can. But they can't, that's the thing, do you think for one second that if there wasn't such, I would say purposely designed and manufactured, division in the population that they would be able to just do what they want? Brexit is the perfect examplr, in fact I'd go as far as to saying the anti lockdown protesters too, they are the very first group of people that will kick up a fuss about it, but because of what they are associated to, ie Brexit and anti lockdown, are any people who oppose those two movements going to back them up? Probably not. Even though the bill affects everyone's rights to protest. But the division that has already been sown between so many groups makes it so that no full scale resistance to a government move is possible, because groups of different ideas will not work together. I would say that it is done purposefully from the start to enable less resistance for a move further down the line, I think you would be more of the notion that governments just capitalise in the moment. I don't think we are on entirely different pages, just I believe that things are planned more in advance a lot more than you do. We just look at things slightly differently But the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill 2021is already pretty much law. It has been pushed through double quick by a government with a massive majority and it will soon be law. It's not a conspiracy, it's being done right in front of us and people don't care." People do care, I'm sure there was a Kill the bill protest over that? That was what kicked off the riot in Bristol a while back? I'm not saying that move is a conspiracy, my point of view is that many things are done purposefully to create division so that when the government makes moves like that, everyone is too fractured to have any sort of united front. See, that bill affects everyone, but someone who is a pro EU demonstrator will be happy with those laws being used against anti EU demonstrators and vice versa. (I'm just using the EU debate as an example) There's no united front on anything anymore, even when something affects everyone. And that, to me, is something that is being done purposefully. | |||
"Your points were very worth debating up until you dropped the blame for the nations ills on "right wing" media... I didn't blame all the nation's ills on the right wing media, I blamed Brexit and the rise of racism, you can extrapolate what you will from that but pleas don't attribute something to me I didn't say. Some can be attributed to that in terms of media, but there are huge problems with left wing corporations, prime examples social media, picking and shooing which narratives they allow on their platform, stoking anger and resentment in one side until things spill over. There is no such thing as a left wing corporation, corporations exist for one reason only, to make money. If a social media company bans certain things from being posted on its platfiorm it is doing that because it does not want to be in a situation where it is unable to make money. For instance in Germany it is illegal to spread holocaust denial, so social media companies ban holocaust denial from their platforms so they can continue to make money in Germany. Not because they are morally or politically inclined to do so. And Just taking the example you provided of brexit, how is that not a conspiracy, certain people wanted a certain result and thus organised for a certain narrative to be pushed down peoples necks to ensure it happened? Whilst Brexit is a result that came from the right woing media blaming foreigners for everything the owners of the Express, Sun, Star, Telegraph, Times etc. did not sit around in the 70s and hatch a big plot to get the UK to withdraw from the EU. Keeping people distracted from the real causes of issues by blaming foreigners was part of what they were after but that is something most capitalists and politicians on the right wanted to do, even Thatcher wasn't foolish enough to want us to leave the EU though! Not only that you contradicted yourself by saying "By its very definition a conspiracy can't be attributed to more than one person" only to follow it up by saying "Bush, Blair, and others conspired to create a situation in which they could invade Iraq, not to start an endless war on terror". So which is it? Because I'm sure in a court of law, conspiracy charges are applied to groups of people not single individuals. Read what I said again, there is no contradiction. I will give you though that it is difficult to see whether something and the fallout occurs due to design or whether something occurs and then certain parties take advantage of the fallout individually. Conspiracies happen all the time, none of them however are these huge nonsense conspiracy theories about a new world order and governments using Covid to remove our civil liberties. The current government is putting a bill through parliament which will cut our ciovil liberties, especially the right to protest but it is nothing to do with Covid and it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it blatantly because they can. But they can't, that's the thing, do you think for one second that if there wasn't such, I would say purposely designed and manufactured, division in the population that they would be able to just do what they want? Brexit is the perfect examplr, in fact I'd go as far as to saying the anti lockdown protesters too, they are the very first group of people that will kick up a fuss about it, but because of what they are associated to, ie Brexit and anti lockdown, are any people who oppose those two movements going to back them up? Probably not. Even though the bill affects everyone's rights to protest. But the division that has already been sown between so many groups makes it so that no full scale resistance to a government move is possible, because groups of different ideas will not work together. I would say that it is done purposefully from the start to enable less resistance for a move further down the line, I think you would be more of the notion that governments just capitalise in the moment. I don't think we are on entirely different pages, just I believe that things are planned more in advance a lot more than you do. We just look at things slightly differently But the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill 2021is already pretty much law. It has been pushed through double quick by a government with a massive majority and it will soon be law. It's not a conspiracy, it's being done right in front of us and people don't care. Curiously, the ‘freedom seekers’ raging against public health measures don’t seem to have much interest in that particular bill. "Quite. Why worry about actual problems? | |||
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"People waste time even their whole life fighting the system, much better to remove yourself from it and live in peace. "Nice
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"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol" They couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel? G8? Davos? Bilderberg meeting Just take the Davos conference that takes every year for the last 10 years in Geneva. Just look at the heads of states that turn up. Look at the world economic forum and look at the all the corporations involved. and look at how many nations signed up for it. The divisions amongst nations is but a front. In behind the scenes they probably have more orgies than you have time for. And the quality of these orgies will no doubt be second to none. | |||
" The divisions amongst nations is but a front. In behind the scenes they probably have more orgies than you have time for. And the quality of these orgies will no doubt be second to none." Boris and Biden spit roasting Merkel. | |||
" The divisions amongst nations is but a front. In behind the scenes they probably have more orgies than you have time for. And the quality of these orgies will no doubt be second to none. Boris and Biden spit roasting Merkel. "Oh God. I can't get that image out of my head now. | |||
" The divisions amongst nations is but a front. In behind the scenes they probably have more orgies than you have time for. And the quality of these orgies will no doubt be second to none. Boris and Biden spit roasting Merkel. "Hahaha. Wont be surprising and probably with the french and canadian guy involved too | |||
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"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol For the most part, when people are talking about the nwo, it's not so much things that are constantly being done, moreso a system that has been built up and tweaked over centuries, little bits at a time. Unfortunately, conspiracy theories don't just stem from nowhere, they stem from a deep mistrust of people with vast fortunes and corporations that control huge diverse parts of our consumption and sometimes society, for example news and media corporations who own a huge amount of news sources and can easily sway a nations narrative with a single report. " Yes they do spring from nowhere, that's why they are called theories! | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol For the most part, when people are talking about the nwo, it's not so much things that are constantly being done, moreso a system that has been built up and tweaked over centuries, little bits at a time. Unfortunately, conspiracy theories don't just stem from nowhere, they stem from a deep mistrust of people with vast fortunes and corporations that control huge diverse parts of our consumption and sometimes society, for example news and media corporations who own a huge amount of news sources and can easily sway a nations narrative with a single report. Yes they do spring from nowhere, that's why they are called theories!" the term "conspiracy theory" Was coined by the CIA in order to stop poeple looking more into thr subject. They are not theories at all. Check out the tavistock institute and and institute of governance. Theres loads of stuff going on behind the scenes and lots of people pushing for things that are detrimental to us all. | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol For the most part, when people are talking about the nwo, it's not so much things that are constantly being done, moreso a system that has been built up and tweaked over centuries, little bits at a time. Unfortunately, conspiracy theories don't just stem from nowhere, they stem from a deep mistrust of people with vast fortunes and corporations that control huge diverse parts of our consumption and sometimes society, for example news and media corporations who own a huge amount of news sources and can easily sway a nations narrative with a single report. Yes they do spring from nowhere, that's why they are called theories! the term "conspiracy theory" Was coined by the CIA in order to stop poeple looking more into thr subject. They are not theories at all. Check out the tavistock institute and and institute of governance. Theres loads of stuff going on behind the scenes and lots of people pushing for things that are detrimental to us all." There’s a conspiracy theory that the CIA invented the term ‘conspiracy theory’ – here’s why Article at the conversation .com | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol that is SO true "This is SOOO true, the government are so incompetent and powerless and can’t even tackle the civil servants they pay , the administration is so brutal to anyone who dares to try and so anything different , it wears out PMs every 4 years or so. If you really want power or control , get a 2:2 in media studies or fail a real degree, and then get a job as an admin assistant in the civil service | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol that is SO true
This is SOOO true, the government are so incompetent and powerless and can’t even tackle the civil servants they pay , the administration is so brutal to anyone who dares to try and so anything different , it wears out PMs every 4 years or so. If you really want power or control , get a 2:2 in media studies or fail a real degree, and then get a job as an admin assistant in the civil service "They are not incompetent. They have been very successful in.paying themselves handsomely and even more successful when it comes to giving their own people millions and millions. | |||
"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol For the most part, when people are talking about the nwo, it's not so much things that are constantly being done, moreso a system that has been built up and tweaked over centuries, little bits at a time. Unfortunately, conspiracy theories don't just stem from nowhere, they stem from a deep mistrust of people with vast fortunes and corporations that control huge diverse parts of our consumption and sometimes society, for example news and media corporations who own a huge amount of news sources and can easily sway a nations narrative with a single report. Yes they do spring from nowhere, that's why they are called theories!" That is not what theory means | |||
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"What are these, I'm assuming it has something to do with possibly being "anti vax", but I'm not sure? Yeah, it'll be for the 'theres a chipein the vaccine' crowd The real truth is one we all know but we hate admitting because it's so painful The government's in charge of us (and other nations unfortunately) couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel The one thing I say to people when they bring up 'NWO / illuminati / etc' is do you really think there'd be enough competent people to keep such a thing running lol For the most part, when people are talking about the nwo, it's not so much things that are constantly being done, moreso a system that has been built up and tweaked over centuries, little bits at a time. Unfortunately, conspiracy theories don't just stem from nowhere, they stem from a deep mistrust of people with vast fortunes and corporations that control huge diverse parts of our consumption and sometimes society, for example news and media corporations who own a huge amount of news sources and can easily sway a nations narrative with a single report. Yes they do spring from nowhere, that's why they are called theories! the term "conspiracy theory" Was coined by the CIA in order to stop poeple looking more into thr subject. They are not theories at all. Check out the tavistock institute and and institute of governance. Theres loads of stuff going on behind the scenes and lots of people pushing for things that are detrimental to us all." A conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories? We're through the looking glass now, people. | |||
