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An interesting perspective. Level of education and vaccine hesitancy.
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An interesting perspective. For the full article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9893465/Americans-PhDs-reluctant-vaccinated-against-COVID-study-finds.html
Researchers from Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh surveyed just over five million US adults in an online survey.
The report showed a surprising U-shaped correlation between willingness to get a Covid vaccine and education level - with the highest hesitancy among those least and most educated.
Of those surveyed, 20.8 per cent with a high school education were reluctant to get the shot, and 23.9 per cent with a PhD were against it.
But the least skeptical of the shot had a Master's degree - with only 8.3 per cent of that group being vaccine hesitant.
The researchers did not offer an explanation as to why so many people with PhDs were vaccine hesitant, and the paper noted that 'further investigation into hesitancy among those with a PhD is warranted'.
I am double vaccinated. I got vaccinated with very little hesitation based on my experience with SARS 20 years ago, information from reputable media and trust to science. I hold a post graduate degree.
I have friends though who also have postgraduate degrees and are covid vaccine sceptics (bordering to antivaxxers, based on what info they share with me). Then again I have other friends with just university degree who had no hesitation having the covid vaccine.
After following quite a few heated conversations on fab, it would be interesting to know whether the level of formal education of my fellow members plays a role in their positive/negative stance towards the covid vaccine and the information they seek/trust. |
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Of those surveyed, 20.8 per cent with a high school education were reluctant to get the shot, and 23.9 per cent with a PhD were against it.
But the least skeptical of the shot had a Master's degree - with only 8.3 per cent of that group being vaccine hesitant.
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Did they survey equal numbers of high school students and those with Masters and PhDs ? |
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By *ubElleWoman
over a year ago
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My Facebook bubble of friends would say those of us with PhD’s (all science based) vaccine uptake is 100% but then so are my university friends that I’m close to. It’s the friends from other areas e.g. parents of my kids school friends, that are anti vax (and also don’t believe in covid apparently!!)
But I’m aware that the political/social views of my friends are pro European/ left leaning etc so not representative of society as a whole.
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"My Facebook bubble of friends would say those of us with PhD’s (all science based) vaccine uptake is 100% but then so are my university friends that I’m close to. It’s the friends from other areas e.g. parents of my kids school friends, that are anti vax (and also don’t believe in covid apparently!!)
But I’m aware that the political/social views of my friends are pro European/ left leaning etc so not representative of society as a whole.
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Yes, if anything I think there's more of a political correlation. Which is odd, because until relatively recently anti vaccination stances were much more common among the crunchy hippy types |
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"I thought people of a decent level of education would not read the Daily Mail.
#justsaying  "
It is just a University study with a pretty big sample of respondents. Does it matter whether the article appears on Daily Mail or the Financial Times? At least I am not sharing info that only appears on Facebook or YouTube. |
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Of those surveyed, 20.8 per cent with a high school education were reluctant to get the shot, and 23.9 per cent with a PhD were against it.
But the least skeptical of the shot had a Master's degree - with only 8.3 per cent of that group being vaccine hesitant.
Did they survey equal numbers of high school students and those with Masters and PhDs ?"
No they did not. But based on the educational level of the respondents, a percentage from each group showed hesitancy. |
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"My Facebook bubble of friends would say those of us with PhD’s (all science based) vaccine uptake is 100% but then so are my university friends that I’m close to. It’s the friends from other areas e.g. parents of my kids school friends, that are anti vax (and also don’t believe in covid apparently!!)
But I’m aware that the political/social views of my friends are pro European/ left leaning etc so not representative of society as a whole.
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Pretty much exactly the same here  |
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Did they survey equal numbers of high school students and those with Masters and PhDs ?
No they did not. But based on the educational level of the respondents, a percentage from each group showed hesitancy."
If you only ask four PhD students, one skeptical person makes a huge difference percentage wise |
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"My Facebook bubble of friends would say those of us with PhD’s (all science based) vaccine uptake is 100% but then so are my university friends that I’m close to. It’s the friends from other areas e.g. parents of my kids school friends, that are anti vax (and also don’t believe in covid apparently!!)
But I’m aware that the political/social views of my friends are pro European/ left leaning etc so not representative of society as a whole.
Pretty much exactly the same here "
The humanities PhDs I know are at 100% vaccine uptake too.
So are the mere mortals with lesser humanities degrees I know  (I don't have a PhD. I'm laughing at myself) |
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"I'm not sure US and UK views would be the same, if broken down by education level, to be honest. "
You have a point. In US people are more polarized towards covid, vaccines, masks etc based on their political affilliation. We do not see such a thing in the UK. |
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Did they survey equal numbers of high school students and those with Masters and PhDs ?
No they did not. But based on the educational level of the respondents, a percentage from each group showed hesitancy.
If you only ask four PhD students, one skeptical person makes a huge difference percentage wise"
Correct, but in this study 10,000 of the respondents mentioned of being educated to a PhD level. |
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"I thought people of a decent level of education would not read the Daily Mail.
#justsaying "
Shows how educated you are lol Daily mail and their ilk are all pro vaccine lol |
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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago
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Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well. |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well."
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has. |
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Hi all. Well I'm educated, not to a degree level but to a decent level. I'm proud to say I have refused the vaccine so far. That doesn't mean I'm anti vax. I'm simply waiting for more studies into the mid and long term. This gene based therapy is not even a year old yet and the adverse reactions I have seen and read should of pulled it from the market. It did with Sars. There simply hasn't been enough studies to say this vaccine is safe unless you believe the msm and the scientists they put on show. How about the 1000s of doctors and scientists they have censored? I'm not saying this virus is fake but I did say when they first started with this propaganda that it was a bad strain of the flu. If we wasn't force fed this covid nonsense would we know any differently? Ask yourselves that. If you want the jab than take it, but if you don't then don't try and segregate us from society. The more you give your rights to corrupted governments the less freedoms we will have. This is not about a virus and if people looked properly for answers you will see where this is going. It's all a choice but unfortunately imo the vast majority are happy to go along with it.... |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has. "
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?  |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority? "
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines. |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines. "
So 16...hmmmm |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines.
So 16...hmmmm"
That's the number in her team, not the total number of lecturers.
I would also doubt many doctors would refuse it, as they'll be very aware of the bigger picture and the importance of vaccination. |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines.
So 16...hmmmm
That's the number in her team, not the total number of lecturers.
I would also doubt many doctors would refuse it, as they'll be very aware of the bigger picture and the importance of vaccination."
Correct. I know what my own team have done but also know the general pro vaccine sentiment pervading the whole institution |
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"I thought people of a decent level of education would not read the Daily Mail.
#justsaying
Shows how educated you are lol Daily mail and their ilk are all pro vaccine lol"
Irrespective of what I read, I am well educated and well informed. I do not rely on youtube and google like you. And I am not avoiding to share links when I am quoting something, unlike you. Finally, you should cut down the use of lol. You include it to many of your comments. Does not show much maturity, especially when you try to get involved in serious conversations. |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines.
So 16...hmmmm
That's the number in her team, not the total number of lecturers.
I would also doubt many doctors would refuse it, as they'll be very aware of the bigger picture and the importance of vaccination.
Correct. I know what my own team have done but also know the general pro vaccine sentiment pervading the whole institution "
But how does that little bit of information in your experience relate to the general consensus amongst lecturers/drs etc here and abroad.
Its like me saying all my colleagues are gay...when someone is discussing how much of the population is gay... |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines.
So 16...hmmmm
That's the number in her team, not the total number of lecturers.
I would also doubt many doctors would refuse it, as they'll be very aware of the bigger picture and the importance of vaccination.
Correct. I know what my own team have done but also know the general pro vaccine sentiment pervading the whole institution
But how does that little bit of information in your experience relate to the general consensus amongst lecturers/drs etc here and abroad.
Its like me saying all my colleagues are gay...when someone is discussing how much of the population is gay..."
I said that the vast majority of uni lecturers, in my own personal experience, have taken the vaccine. This includes my own team, the wider institution and a good number of friends and acquaintances who also work in such environments. Unless my lecturer experience is vastly different to the norm for some reason, it would seem safe to extrapolate, however.
The OP is about US attitudes. I firmly believe that UK attitudes would come out differently, if surveyed in the same way. |
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"I thought people of a decent level of education would not read the Daily Mail.
#justsaying
Shows how educated you are lol Daily mail and their ilk are all pro vaccine lol
Irrespective of what I read, I am well educated and well informed. I do not rely on youtube and google like you. And I am not avoiding to share links when I am quoting something, unlike you. Finally, you should cut down the use of lol. You include it to many of your comments. Does not show much maturity, especially when you try to get involved in serious conversations."
Serious conversation? says the guy who makes assumptions (where i get my information)
Secondly, i stated dailymail is pro vaccine (not anti vaccine as you claim for whatver reason :s)...once again proving you have no debating skills and just out to troll.
And you wonder why i used LOOOOOOL When responing to soo many anomolies  |
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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has. "
Quite possible, however one thing to consider these days is if you don’t ask someone directly if they are vaccinated they are very unlikely to mention it. The pressure on unvaccinated people is immense, literally bombarded every second from every direction. The prospect of becoming a second class citizen, loosing basic rights, work etc doesn’t feel easy. Myself I find this more psychologically difficult to digest than the first lockdown. I guess the idea of dying in few days from a deadly virus doesn’t seem so bad in comparison with being rejected by the the society. I guess lots of people will eventually break mentally and get vaccinated. Not sure about the future psychological harm. |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines.
So 16...hmmmm
That's the number in her team, not the total number of lecturers.
I would also doubt many doctors would refuse it, as they'll be very aware of the bigger picture and the importance of vaccination.
Correct. I know what my own team have done but also know the general pro vaccine sentiment pervading the whole institution
But how does that little bit of information in your experience relate to the general consensus amongst lecturers/drs etc here and abroad.
Its like me saying all my colleagues are gay...when someone is discussing how much of the population is gay...
I said that the vast majority of uni lecturers, in my own personal experience, have taken the vaccine. This includes my own team, the wider institution and a good number of friends and acquaintances who also work in such environments. Unless my lecturer experience is vastly different to the norm for some reason, it would seem safe to extrapolate, however.
The OP is about US attitudes. I firmly believe that UK attitudes would come out differently, if surveyed in the same way."
Again its your firm belief and not actually backed by any substance whatsover...yet OP is discussing an actual study that you are disregarding based on as you say is your "personal experience" |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
Quite possible, however one thing to consider these days is if you don’t ask someone directly if they are vaccinated they are very unlikely to mention it. The pressure on unvaccinated people is immense, literally bombarded every second from every direction. The prospect of becoming a second class citizen, loosing basic rights, work etc doesn’t feel easy. Myself I find this more psychologically difficult to digest than the first lockdown. I guess the idea of dying in few days from a deadly virus doesn’t seem so bad in comparison with being rejected by the the society. I guess lots of people will eventually break mentally and get vaccinated. Not sure about the future psychological harm. "
They'll have to pin me down if they want to vaccinate me mate....im fighting this all the way |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines.
So 16...hmmmm
That's the number in her team, not the total number of lecturers.
I would also doubt many doctors would refuse it, as they'll be very aware of the bigger picture and the importance of vaccination."
All 27 doctors I work with have had the vaccine |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines.
So 16...hmmmm
That's the number in her team, not the total number of lecturers.
I would also doubt many doctors would refuse it, as they'll be very aware of the bigger picture and the importance of vaccination.
Correct. I know what my own team have done but also know the general pro vaccine sentiment pervading the whole institution
But how does that little bit of information in your experience relate to the general consensus amongst lecturers/drs etc here and abroad.
Its like me saying all my colleagues are gay...when someone is discussing how much of the population is gay...
I said that the vast majority of uni lecturers, in my own personal experience, have taken the vaccine. This includes my own team, the wider institution and a good number of friends and acquaintances who also work in such environments. Unless my lecturer experience is vastly different to the norm for some reason, it would seem safe to extrapolate, however.
The OP is about US attitudes. I firmly believe that UK attitudes would come out differently, if surveyed in the same way.
Again its your firm belief and not actually backed by any substance whatsover...yet OP is discussing an actual study that you are disregarding based on as you say is your "personal experience" "
We're questioning whether a survey of US attitudes is relevant to the UK, which has s vastly different culture around many things. The simple data on the proportion of American adults vaccinated vs UK adults would suggest that the outcome in the UK would be different. The OP actually agreed with that further up.
If you surveyed Americans on something like religious beliefs, again, you'd get data that cannot be extended to the UK, due to the differing levels of religious observance in the two countries. |
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"I thought people of a decent level of education would not read the Daily Mail.
#justsaying
Shows how educated you are lol Daily mail and their ilk are all pro vaccine lol
Irrespective of what I read, I am well educated and well informed. I do not rely on youtube and google like you. And I am not avoiding to share links when I am quoting something, unlike you. Finally, you should cut down the use of lol. You include it to many of your comments. Does not show much maturity, especially when you try to get involved in serious conversations.
Serious conversation? says the guy who makes assumptions (where i get my information)
Secondly, i stated dailymail is pro vaccine (not anti vaccine as you claim for whatver reason :s)...once again proving you have no debating skills and just out to troll.
And you wonder why i used LOOOOOOL When responing to soo many anomolies "
You need to grow up first. |
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"Very educated people tend to ask a lot of questions, are less susceptible to media or government brainwashing etc. If they don’t get or don’t like the answers are more likely to say pass. The fact that the government changed its mind regarding compulsory vaccination for university lecturers is not a coincidence either.I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few doctors said pass to the vaccine for the moment. The same trend as in the article I’ve seen in other countries as well.
It was university STUDENTS they were mulling compulsory vaccinations for. Not lecturers. The vast majority of uni lecturers I know have had two vaccines and my understanding is everyone in my department has.
How many lecturers are we talking when you say vast majority?
Seeing as I work among university lecturers and the vast majority have taken the vaccines, I think that should be clear enough? I manage a team of 16 and I believe all have taken the vaccines.
So 16...hmmmm
That's the number in her team, not the total number of lecturers.
I would also doubt many doctors would refuse it, as they'll be very aware of the bigger picture and the importance of vaccination.
Correct. I know what my own team have done but also know the general pro vaccine sentiment pervading the whole institution
But how does that little bit of information in your experience relate to the general consensus amongst lecturers/drs etc here and abroad.
Its like me saying all my colleagues are gay...when someone is discussing how much of the population is gay...
I said that the vast majority of uni lecturers, in my own personal experience, have taken the vaccine. This includes my own team, the wider institution and a good number of friends and acquaintances who also work in such environments. Unless my lecturer experience is vastly different to the norm for some reason, it would seem safe to extrapolate, however.
The OP is about US attitudes. I firmly believe that UK attitudes would come out differently, if surveyed in the same way.
Again its your firm belief and not actually backed by any substance whatsover...yet OP is discussing an actual study that you are disregarding based on as you say is your "personal experience"
We're questioning whether a survey of US attitudes is relevant to the UK, which has s vastly different culture around many things. The simple data on the proportion of American adults vaccinated vs UK adults would suggest that the outcome in the UK would be different. The OP actually agreed with that further up.
If you surveyed Americans on something like religious beliefs, again, you'd get data that cannot be extended to the UK, due to the differing levels of religious observance in the two countries."
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"I thought people of a decent level of education would not read the Daily Mail.
#justsaying
Shows how educated you are lol Daily mail and their ilk are all pro vaccine lol
Irrespective of what I read, I am well educated and well informed. I do not rely on youtube and google like you. And I am not avoiding to share links when I am quoting something, unlike you. Finally, you should cut down the use of lol. You include it to many of your comments. Does not show much maturity, especially when you try to get involved in serious conversations.
Serious conversation? says the guy who makes assumptions (where i get my information)
Secondly, i stated dailymail is pro vaccine (not anti vaccine as you claim for whatver reason :s)...once again proving you have no debating skills and just out to troll.
And you wonder why i used LOOOOOOL When responing to soo many anomolies
You need to grow up first. "
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I think the more interesting study might be mask/vaccine skepticism v exposure to social media and certain newspapers. I think they're the things that really drive the skepticism.
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"I think the more interesting study might be mask/vaccine skepticism v exposure to social media and certain newspapers. I think they're the things that really drive the skepticism.
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This is a good point. Personally I am wearing a mask. Even though I do not believe it offers a great degree of protection on its own, even a tiny bit combined with social distancing is good enough for me. |
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"I think the more interesting study might be mask/vaccine skepticism v exposure to social media and certain newspapers. I think they're the things that really drive the skepticism.
This is a good point. Personally I am wearing a mask. Even though I do not believe it offers a great degree of protection on its own, even a tiny bit combined with social distancing is good enough for me."
For me, it boils down to: why not wear a mask? They offer some protection, so why not? There's no downside to wearing one. (Except for a handful of people who can't wear a mask for medical reasons.)
I have the same stance on social distancing. It offers a level of protection. And there's no downside to doing it. So again, why not?
And they're both such easy things to do in most situations. |
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"I think the more interesting study might be mask/vaccine skepticism v exposure to social media and certain newspapers. I think they're the things that really drive the skepticism.
This is a good point. Personally I am wearing a mask. Even though I do not believe it offers a great degree of protection on its own, even a tiny bit combined with social distancing is good enough for me."
Yes, it all adds up. |
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Even though in the US, not wearing a mask has become a badge for many republicans and this is not due to some newspapers or social media but due to the former US president who for his own reasons was playing down publicly from the very start the seriousness of Covid19. |
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In the USA the clearest connection seems to be to Republicans, especially those supporting Trump. There's correlation and causation, which aren't the same though. I don't know anyone who is against the vaccine, nor not had it. |
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
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"Hi all. Well I'm educated, not to a degree level but to a decent level. I'm proud to say I have refused the vaccine so far. That doesn't mean I'm anti vax. I'm simply waiting for more studies into the mid and long term. This gene based therapy is not even a year old yet and the adverse reactions I have seen and read should of pulled it from the market. It did with Sars. There simply hasn't been enough studies to say this vaccine is safe unless you believe the msm and the scientists they put on show. How about the 1000s of doctors and scientists they have censored? I'm not saying this virus is fake but I did say when they first started with this propaganda that it was a bad strain of the flu. If we wasn't force fed this covid nonsense would we know any differently? Ask yourselves that. If you want the jab than take it, but if you don't then don't try and segregate us from society. The more you give your rights to corrupted governments the less freedoms we will have. This is not about a virus and if people looked properly for answers you will see where this is going. It's all a choice but unfortunately imo the vast majority are happy to go along with it...."
That moment when the first 5 words contradict the rest of the post.
There's are so many inaccuracies in this I don't know where to start.
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"Hi all. Well I'm educated, not to a degree level but to a decent level. I'm proud to say I have refused the vaccine so far. That doesn't mean I'm anti vax. I'm simply waiting for more studies into the mid and long term. This gene based therapy is not even a year old yet and the adverse reactions I have seen and read should of pulled it from the market. It did with Sars. There simply hasn't been enough studies to say this vaccine is safe unless you believe the msm and the scientists they put on show. How about the 1000s of doctors and scientists they have censored? I'm not saying this virus is fake but I did say when they first started with this propaganda that it was a bad strain of the flu. If we wasn't force fed this covid nonsense would we know any differently? Ask yourselves that. If you want the jab than take it, but if you don't then don't try and segregate us from society. The more you give your rights to corrupted governments the less freedoms we will have. This is not about a virus and if people looked properly for answers you will see where this is going. It's all a choice but unfortunately imo the vast majority are happy to go along with it....
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Being educated and being intelligent are not the same thing.
Much of what is written here is just completely wrong:
1. The "gene based therapy" (mRNA vaccines) was actually invented in the late 1980's and has been in development & testing ever since, their main focus was towards cancer treatments. It's progress was previously hampered by lack of funding, but several promising vaccines were developed including one for Rabies, and off the back of recent development there are many promising new treatments in the pipeline.
2. The data has actually proven that the covid vaccines are amongst the safest vaccines ever created. Schemes such as the Yellow Card reporting system are often present as raw data without context to infer a particular "problem". With just a small amount of analysis, it becomes obvious that occurances of specific reactions are broadly similar to baseline levels.
3. Scientists don't publish in "msm" the prefer scientific or medical publications where their findings are open to scrutiny by the rest of their peers and counter studies, opinions or theories are freely published in response.
4. Influenza is a completely different virus, calling covid "a flu" is like calling a kangaroo "a big rabbit"
5. Personally, if we hadn't been "force fed this covid nonsense" I would still know 8 people who have died because of it in addition to many who are still suffering long term effects.
6. No rights have been given up or removed from the people of the UK and although there WILL be some restrictions on admissions to certain events or establishments, surely these are restrictions that you are subjecting yourself to by "choosing" to "refuse" a vaccine.
Also, what is your objection to the other vaccines? They do not all use mRNA technologies.
Cal
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over a year ago
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"Hi all. Well I'm educated, not to a degree level but to a decent level. I'm proud to say I have refused the vaccine so far. That doesn't mean I'm anti vax. I'm simply waiting for more studies into the mid and long term. This gene based therapy is not even a year old yet and the adverse reactions I have seen and read should of pulled it from the market. It did with Sars. There simply hasn't been enough studies to say this vaccine is safe unless you believe the msm and the scientists they put on show. How about the 1000s of doctors and scientists they have censored? I'm not saying this virus is fake but I did say when they first started with this propaganda that it was a bad strain of the flu. If we wasn't force fed this covid nonsense would we know any differently? Ask yourselves that. If you want the jab than take it, but if you don't then don't try and segregate us from society. The more you give your rights to corrupted governments the less freedoms we will have. This is not about a virus and if people looked properly for answers you will see where this is going. It's all a choice but unfortunately imo the vast majority are happy to go along with it....
Being educated and being intelligent are not the same thing.
Much of what is written here is just completely wrong:
1. The "gene based therapy" (mRNA vaccines) was actually invented in the late 1980's and has been in development & testing ever since, their main focus was towards cancer treatments. It's progress was previously hampered by lack of funding, but several promising vaccines were developed including one for Rabies, and off the back of recent development there are many promising new treatments in the pipeline.
2. The data has actually proven that the covid vaccines are amongst the safest vaccines ever created. Schemes such as the Yellow Card reporting system are often present as raw data without context to infer a particular "problem". With just a small amount of analysis, it becomes obvious that occurances of specific reactions are broadly similar to baseline levels.
3. Scientists don't publish in "msm" the prefer scientific or medical publications where their findings are open to scrutiny by the rest of their peers and counter studies, opinions or theories are freely published in response.
4. Influenza is a completely different virus, calling covid "a flu" is like calling a kangaroo "a big rabbit"
5. Personally, if we hadn't been "force fed this covid nonsense" I would still know 8 people who have died because of it in addition to many who are still suffering long term effects.
6. No rights have been given up or removed from the people of the UK and although there WILL be some restrictions on admissions to certain events or establishments, surely these are restrictions that you are subjecting yourself to by "choosing" to "refuse" a vaccine.
Also, what is your objection to the other vaccines? They do not all use mRNA technologies.
Cal
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All of this. ^^^^
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Quite an interesting article so thanks for posting OP. I have a PhD in a science subject amongst my group of friends anyone with degree or higher it is 100% vaccine uptake. There is a bias towards science degrees amongst my friends but not all have a science degree. I know one person with a levels that is not having the vaccine but he is not anti vaccine or anti covid vaccine. His own personal choice I respect and he thinks most anti vaxxers are loonies. The only anti vaxxers in my social group are school friends who left school at 16. |
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Intersting study. Thabk for bringing to my attention.
The paper has a lot of statistics that look like they could be a rich source of insight. I wish they'd done some analysis to see which factors explain the hesitocny variance the most.
I'd also like to see how theyve convinced themselves the self reported data is correct.
Also love to see if there is a correlation between type of PhD and hesitency. After all, once outside of your specific area of knowledge, your PhD (indeed any degree) gives less weight tonyiur opinions.
Interesting nonetheless. And pause for thought at least. |
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"Hi all. Well I'm educated, not to a degree level but to a decent level. I'm proud to say I have refused the vaccine so far. That doesn't mean I'm anti vax. I'm simply waiting for more studies into the mid and long term. This gene based therapy is not even a year old yet and the adverse reactions ..."
Well said that man.... I’ll maybe give it another year or so and see how the beta testing is going. I really appreciate the people who have had it testing the water. You guys are ace |
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"Hi all. Well I'm educated, not to a degree level but to a decent level. I'm proud to say I have refused the vaccine so far. That doesn't mean I'm anti vax. I'm simply waiting for more studies into the mid and long term. This gene based therapy is not even a year old yet and the adverse reactions ...
Well said that man.... I’ll maybe give it another year or so and see how the beta testing is going. I really appreciate the people who have had it testing the water. You guys are ace "
It would be funny if it wasn't so ridiculous |
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"Hi all. Well I'm educated, not to a degree level but to a decent level. I'm proud to say I have refused the vaccine so far. That doesn't mean I'm anti vax. I'm simply waiting for more studies into the mid and long term. This gene based therapy is not even a year old yet and the adverse reactions ...
Well said that man.... I’ll maybe give it another year or so and see how the beta testing is going. I really appreciate the people who have had it testing the water. You guys are ace
It would be funny if it wasn't so ridiculous "
But we have the unvaccinated to thank for the alpha testing of the extra long and short term effects of covid on unvaccinated people. We appreciate your bravery in the face of statistics. |
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"Hi all. Well I'm educated, not to a degree level but to a decent level. I'm proud to say I have refused the vaccine so far. That doesn't mean I'm anti vax. I'm simply waiting for more studies into the mid and long term. This gene based therapy is not even a year old yet and the adverse reactions ...
Well said that man.... I’ll maybe give it another year or so and see how the beta testing is going. I really appreciate the people who have had it testing the water. You guys are ace
It would be funny if it wasn't so ridiculous
But we have the unvaccinated to thank for the alpha testing of the extra long and short term effects of covid on unvaccinated people. We appreciate your bravery in the face of statistics."
Quite. Given concerns about the changing face of Covid with successive variants, plus the fact that long term effects of Covid don't seem nice even with ancestral variants, I'm very glad I'm vaccinated.
I wish the control subjects of the virus luck, and I hope you don't need it. |
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"I think the more interesting study might be mask/vaccine skepticism v exposure to social media and certain newspapers. I think they're the things that really drive the skepticism.
This is a good point. Personally I am wearing a mask. Even though I do not believe it offers a great degree of protection on its own, even a tiny bit combined with social distancing is good enough for me.
For me, it boils down to: why not wear a mask? They offer some protection, so why not? There's no downside to wearing one. (Except for a handful of people who can't wear a mask for medical reasons.)
I have the same stance on social distancing. It offers a level of protection. And there's no downside to doing it. So again, why not?
And they're both such easy things to do in most situations."
I actually dont mind wearing a mask but it bothers me that my kids are wearing the same mask at school all day which is likely contaminated by touching with their fingers after touching desks etc. Also it's not working when kids are borrowing them off each other to go into shops at lunch time (my boys know they'd be in big trouble if they did this but it seriously makes my mind boggle)
Bottom line is, i believe that for some, mask use will do more harm than good. |
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" But we have the unvaccinated to thank for the alpha testing of the extra long and short term effects of covid on unvaccinated people. We appreciate your bravery in the face of statistics."
That’s great both groups are helping each other. Something positive to pull out of all this division |
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" But we have the unvaccinated to thank for the alpha testing of the extra long and short term effects of covid on unvaccinated people. We appreciate your bravery in the face of statistics.
That’s great both groups are helping each other. Something positive to pull out of all this division "
A silver lining indeed |
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
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My reasons for not being vaccinated is because I’ve already suffered at the hands of the MHRA and the government not taking the situation with pelvic mesh seriously. It was approved years ago to replace prolapses, stress incontinence, etc in women. The MHRA subsequently kept approving modifications of the mesh. Polypropylene mesh that erodes into organs and leaves women with life long issues.
So please respect my decision to not trust the organisations that have already let down thousands of women. |
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