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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" I think its a great idea. No whinging from me lol | |||
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"We should have moved more quickly to create opportunities that were safer and less likely to fuel a grotesque viral spreading cycle. UK is 3rd in the world, in the past week or so, behind Brazil and Indonesia. Johnson wanted us on the world stage again "I'd prefer to be around people who have taken steps to help the wider community, even if it means testing for entry too. | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" Hahaha  | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" Completely the right choice to my mind. Three million plus eighteen year olds currently not vaccinated so it should give them time to have it done by then. Expecting same announcements about public transport and supermarkets and pubs after the Summer.. Again the right thing to do as far as Im concerned. | |||
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"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! " Are you really still questioning whether the vaccines work? The data is VERY clear that they are working even better than expected. | |||
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"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! " Because having the jabs reduces transmission and lessons symptoms. I think it’s a good idea | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" No whingeing from here. I have no desire to be in a room full of un-tested, un-vaccinated people if I can help it. E | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
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"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! " Asymptomatic spread is a problem. To the unvaccinated. Much less of a problem to those who are fully vaccinated. Because........vaccines. E | |||
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"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! " It greatly reduces the chance of catching and transmitting the virus and if people are double jabbed, they are less likely of being seriously ill. | |||
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"It obviously doesn't double jabbed out number cases and deaths as announced by public health England. Not my words you can check for yourself! " if you just watched on tv they explain why. Get the full facts. At the end of the day if you don’t want the jab I said want not can’t then be prepared not to be allowed entry to these venues | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
"I'm going to hazard a guess and say you've never read the Act you're referring to. E | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
"The Equality Act covers the following characteristics: age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex and sexual orientation. I don't think vaccine refusal falls under any of that, although I'm sure there will be test cases on it. | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" If it gets them in the vaccination site, all good   | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
Good luck with your court case"Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down. So no club for you to goto. | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
"Erm… how? The equality act covers gender, sexuality, age, race, religion and disability So what part of not having a jab comes under those? | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
Good luck with your court case
Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.
So no club for you to goto. "Dream on…. | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
"I think you will find you wont be able to.. They already working out a way to stop it | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
Good luck with your court case
Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.
So no club for you to goto. "So if clubs are required to institute safety measures, you want them to be forced to close? Lovely. | |||
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"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper! "You can phone 119 and ask for a paper copy | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" Where does this information come from? | |||
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"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper!
You can phone 119 and ask for a paper copy"Or the NHS app in England (unless - for now - you were jabbed through a clinical trial) | |||
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"It obviously doesn't double jabbed out number cases and deaths as announced by public health England. Not my words you can check for yourself! " That is because the majority of people have been jabbed… smaller number from larger pool…ect | |||
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"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper! "Download the normal nhs app it has your vaccine details and your covid pass on there and a host of normal nhs stuff like being able to order repeat medication direct from the app | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start… Where does this information come from? " On BBC news channel..from Mr Johnson! | |||
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"lol deaths in double jabbed currently outnumber un jabbed massively. Once again check the jab has no effect on mortality if you read the study that only lasted 5 weeks BTW. The only this that was looked at was reduction of mild symptoms. You can check for yourself again not words on every jab manufacturer study notes" Do you understand that the majority of people ha e already been double jabbed? Therefore death rates from natural causes are always going to be higher, it’s not difficult to understand… | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start… Where does this information come from? " Fabio is like the oracle in the matrix. He sees and knows everything
In a good way,I love reading his post's. | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
Good luck with your court case
Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.
So no club for you to goto. "That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation. Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim? E | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
Erm… how?
The equality act covers gender, sexuality, age, race, religion and disability
So what part of not having a jab comes under those? "it comes under the same reference of people that your discrimating at its the same as disability where a group of people are in a set group therefore the no jab people become a set group of people that is being denied | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
Good luck with your court case
Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.
So no club for you to goto. "Wrong, but why let that stop your rage? Also, what a shitty attitude. | |||
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"“papers, please”" Pubs, restaurants, universities, places of worship, swinger venues, house parties …. | |||
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"I like the fact that tesco are keeping a quieter shopping hour for those who are vulnerable and potentially cannot have the vaccine due to serious health issues, maybe nightclubs and other crowded places should start doing a night for them being we are all for equality and all, Instead of all this us and them BS " | |||
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"“papers, please”" Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy? Because that's quite a stretch. And also, bloody vile. E | |||
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"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation. Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim? E" Easy look into the clubs licenses Where a license has to be agreed by the council Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination. Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade. | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" What about people who work in or even own nightclubs who cannot for medical reasons have the vaccine??? By the way I work in the industry and I know a LOT of people who are falling into that bracket. The real winners in this (as always) are going to be the legal industry | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
Erm… how?
The equality act covers gender, sexuality, age, race, religion and disability
So what part of not having a jab comes under those?
it comes under the same reference of people that your discrimating at
its the same as disability where a group of people are in a set group
therefore the no jab people become a set group of people that is being denied"No.. but no jab people who can’t for medical reasons will get an exemption  I am guessing doctors will be able to supply those….
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. " I do believe the announcement is "vaccine proof is required for night clubs" not "you will be lined up and forcibly jabbed" | |||
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. " Do you think if a vaccine had been available at the time of the bubonic plague people would have refused to take it ? complaining that they deserve to have the choice is nonsense, let's eradicate the virus . | |||
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"“papers, please” Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy? Because that's quite a stretch. And also, bloody vile. E" Actually thats spot on and not vile at all Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection | |||
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. " They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" Cracking idea, it's a matter of public safety and health, it needs to be done and kept in place until this virus either mutates itself to death or we get control of it, this crap about creating a divid is rubbish the antivax movement created that divide ages ago and have been fooling people into their way of thinking ever since, they are the people causing the divide with their misinformation and lies that put not only the people that follow them at risk but also the wider population of the planet | |||
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"“papers, please” Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy? Because that's quite a stretch. And also, bloody vile. E Actually thats spot on and not vile at all Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection" Yes, safety checks during a pandemic is exactly like the industrialised torture and execution of an ethnic group. How obvious. | |||
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences " | |||
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"“papers, please” Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy? Because that's quite a stretch. And also, bloody vile. E Actually thats spot on and not vile at all Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection" You need papers to travel abroad…… so what is the difference? Or Papers to drive for example? | |||
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"Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door." If it's the law, they'll be shut down if they don't | |||
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"“papers, please”" Weird response? Have you never been abroad then? Most countries across the world needed you to show 'papers' before Covid and pretty much everyone was okay about that.. No reason for them not to be doing it in the UK now is there? | |||
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"Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door." It's not exactly through the backdoor, he announced it on national television. | |||
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"Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door." I've been out in London a number of times since lockdown lifted and everywhere I went there was absolutely NO entry without checking into the covid app. Believe it or not, business are actually complying. | |||
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"“papers, please” Pubs, restaurants, universities, places of worship, swinger venues, house parties …. " They still have the choice not to take it…. you can now call those things “added benefits” | |||
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"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation. Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim? E Easy look into the clubs licenses Where a license has to be agreed by the council Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination. Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade." But any venue doesn't have to give a reason not to let someone in without having to explain | |||
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"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation. Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim? E Easy look into the clubs licenses Where a license has to be agreed by the council Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination. Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade." This will be required by law so good luck fighting that. Councils are already making the covid pass a requirement for clubs to reopen. | |||
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"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation. Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim? E Easy look into the clubs licenses Where a license has to be agreed by the council Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination. Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade." You haven't explained how an Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation affects your assertion regarding vaccination. Because being vaccinated has nothing to do with any of those individuals. E | |||
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"Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof? " You probably need to download and print the documents and have them handy on your phone perhaps? | |||
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"Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door. I've been out in London a number of times since lockdown lifted and everywhere I went there was absolutely NO entry without checking into the covid app. Believe it or not, business are actually complying. " Further to this, imagine what it would do to a venue's reputation if they were known as a covid hotspot  | |||
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. Do you think if a vaccine had been available at the time of the bubonic plague people would have refused to take it ? complaining that they deserve to have the choice is nonsense, let's eradicate the virus ." There is a little bit of a difference between the bubonic plague and covid you know? | |||
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"Mind you only the double jabbed are being admitted to hospital with Covid ha ha .... so they won’t be going anywhere "What a load of bs, its not ONLY those that have been double jabbed that are being admitted to hospital at all and the majority of the double jabbed that are being hospitalised still are either the old or have comorbidities which place them in the high risk groups anyway and atleast being double vaccinated gives people in those groups a better chance of surviving even if they are still hospitalised. | |||
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"It obviously doesn't double jabbed out number cases and deaths as announced by public health England. Not my words you can check for yourself! if you just watched on tv they explain why. Get the full facts. At the end of the day if you don’t want the jab I said want not can’t then be prepared not to be allowed entry to these venues " Exactly. Well said. With actions or lack of them in this case come consequences. Be prepared for them and no whinging please. | |||
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"So what are the consequences of mandating a experimental jab on people? That's right none! 1500 dead and over 1,000,000 adverse reactions, and it is estimated that only a maximum of 10% are reported (check the yellow card system on the government website) with no liability to big pharma or the Government. People are mental on here "One, it's not mandatory. You just can't go certain places, which are optional. Two, any approved vaccination is by definition not experimental - all stages have been passed. Don't believe the nonsense some people post online. (As someone who is currently in an actual clinical trial... you'd know if you were. Lots of blood tests and even more dead trees for my participation) | |||
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"Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof? You probably need to download and print the documents and have them handy on your phone perhaps? " No need to print, you can use them from your phone. You can also order a paper copy. | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" Haha | |||
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. " They do still have a choice to have the vaccine or not. They just won't have the choice to go to nightclubs if they haven't been vaccinated. Call it discrimination if you like; I don't really have any sympathy. For a few years, our collective health as a society is more important, and the quicker we we accept that responsibility the quicker cases will reduce, the virus becomes endemic and full normality and individual liberty can return in full. | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
Good luck with your court case
Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.
So no club for you to goto. "Again. Good luck with your court case and have plenty of money for the lawyers because you will need it. | |||
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"So what are the consequences of mandating a experimental jab on people? That's right none! 1500 dead and over 1,000,000 adverse reactions, and it is estimated that only a maximum of 10% are reported (check the yellow card system on the government website) with no liability to big pharma or the Government. People are mental on here "You should read the yellow card scheme site fully. | |||
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"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper! "Quite simple really. Download the NHS app. All the information is there if you have been double jabbed | |||
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"So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! " If people choose to enter an environment where the conditions are right to spread covid, they will be protected from the effects of the virus by being vaccinated. | |||
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"Most opinions on here are dividing people into the "chose to get vaccinated" and the "choosing not to be vaccinated" groups. As indeed does the official 'advice' from the Gov seemingly. But may I remind people this is just not the case. There are many, many people who cannot have the vaccine for numerous reasons. They don't get to choose which of the two 'camps' they belong in. I notice in the official rhetoric there is no mention of 'exemption passes' either. " The government are allowing exceptions | |||
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"lol deaths in double jabbed currently outnumber un jabbed massively. Once again check the jab has no effect on mortality if you read the study that only lasted 5 weeks BTW. The only this that was looked at was reduction of mild symptoms. You can check for yourself again not words on every jab manufacturer study notes" Yes but common sense states most of those double jabbed are in the older group of the population and probably have underlying health conditions because of their age whereas the majority of the unjabbed as you refer are of the younger age set and will be more healthy and fitter. Stands to reason. So tell the whole story and STOP Scaremongering ffs. | |||
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"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation. Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim? E Easy look into the clubs licenses Where a license has to be agreed by the council Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination. Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade. You haven't explained how an Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation affects your assertion regarding vaccination. Because being vaccinated has nothing to do with any of those individuals. E " Their is an act to in -dangering life so clubs would be covered by not letting those not vaccinated in which is a duty for the safety or even come under a health and safety certificate. Now whose not going think we need a fresh thread | |||
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences " Wrong! Not everyone gets the choice. I don't. I have been officially told not to have the vaccine as have my mother and my siblings. Our bodies have from birth made this choice already for us. | |||
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"It is only approved for emergency use! Still in trial until 2023 and not mandatory? Tell that to care home workers do some bloody research for the love of god "Approved means it's approved, right? It's not a mandatory vaccination. It does make me laugh when someone who's done literally no research and has zero understanding suggests doing some research.
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"You need papers to travel abroad…… so what is the difference? Or Papers to drive for example? " you dont neeed papers to drive or better known as you dont have to carry them at all times you also dont need them abroad either I do believe that you can lock them in the hotels vault if you want to do. but im not sure on the pasport one as I dont have a passport | |||
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"It is only approved for emergency use! Still in trial until 2023 and not mandatory? Tell that to care home workers do some bloody research for the love of god "It's approved. There is in practice little difference between emergency use and full authorisation (in the US, which you're quoting with your 2023 date) other than long term efficacy. This is Paul Offit, a vaccinologist and on the FDA approval panel. He also notes that long term effects beyond eight weeks are unheard of in vaccines. The "trials" you're referring to are post marketing (ie, have been released to the public) safety monitoring. How scary, nefarious, and experimental, keeping an eye on things Please don't condescend me by assuming that I haven't looked into this in detail. | |||
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"You need papers to travel abroad…… so what is the difference? Or Papers to drive for example? you dont neeed papers to drive or better known as you dont have to carry them at all times you also dont need them abroad either I do believe that you can lock them in the hotels vault if you want to do. but im not sure on the pasport one as I dont have a passport" You've not driven in the States or many European country's I'm guessing? E | |||
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences Wrong! Not everyone gets the choice. I don't. I have been officially told not to have the vaccine as have my mother and my siblings. Our bodies have from birth made this choice already for us. " Then you'll likely be issued an official medical exemption. | |||
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"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences Wrong! Not everyone gets the choice. I don't. I have been officially told not to have the vaccine as have my mother and my siblings. Our bodies have from birth made this choice already for us. " There are exemptions. | |||
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"“papers, please” Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy? Because that's quite a stretch. And also, bloody vile. E Actually thats spot on and not vile at all Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection Yes, safety checks during a pandemic is exactly like the industrialised torture and execution of an ethnic group. How obvious." the only person that took it out of context and made it a vile comment was E there was no mention before of any term of nazi content by the original poster papers please could have been for anything not vile related in the first place | |||
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"Not scare mongering stating facts that anyone can check out if they were not so lazy. The information is there for you to look at but unfortunately people are generally docile and don't look for themselves. " Not facts but keep believing that. It doesn't matter what your opinion is, double vaccination will be mandatory for large crowds, if you don't like it, don't attend those events. | |||
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"Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof? You probably need to download and print the documents and have them handy on your phone perhaps? " You don't, you download the app and they are on it | |||
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"“papers, please” Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy? Because that's quite a stretch. And also, bloody vile. E Actually thats spot on and not vile at all Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection Yes, safety checks during a pandemic is exactly like the industrialised torture and execution of an ethnic group. How obvious. the only person that took it out of context and made it a vile comment was E there was no mention before of any term of nazi content by the original poster papers please could have been for anything not vile related in the first place" Yes, of course, that kind of expression has absolutely no connotations or history, and absolutely no one has ever used that history when discussing vaccines. Sure sure | |||
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"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper! "You can get the NHS app with you vaccine and test history on it as well as other medical history. | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
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"Soooooooo are swinging clubs under the same banner as night clubs ? Hence we’ll all have the same control from Sept ??" I would d think that is obviously going to happen .. And rightly so IMHO | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
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"Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof? You probably need to download and print the documents and have them handy on your phone perhaps? You don't, you download the app and they are on it " It's annoying though as the app doesn't accept my GP's postcode due to my place of work, so as for now i can't access the app properly . Think i need to order paper copies! | |||
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"Same time last year 63 cases per day 0 people jabbed currently 23k per day. Once again check for yourself the info is there if you look. " Yep and nothing was open last year compared to this | |||
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"“papers, please” Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy? Because that's quite a stretch. And also, bloody vile. E Actually thats spot on and not vile at all Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection Yes, safety checks during a pandemic is exactly like the industrialised torture and execution of an ethnic group. How obvious. the only person that took it out of context and made it a vile comment was E there was no mention before of any term of nazi content by the original poster papers please could have been for anything not vile related in the first place" Absolute nonsense and the fact you're defending an obvious Nazi/Jew reference is pretty disgusting to be honest. I've seen some vile comments on these forums. That pretty much scrapes the bottom of the barrel. E | |||
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"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting. Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue? A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests Right?" Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways We do and we are both double jabbed People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated | |||
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"Reading this thread is actually scary.whether pro or against the vaccine people shouldn't get divided. I guess it's a brutal dog eat dog world" that ship sailed about a year ago mate | |||
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"OMG everything was open this time last year and there was NO mask mandate " Nope bars were closed in July last year I know as I work the doors | |||
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"i agree with the idea, but how do you prove youve had both jabs" NHS app or paper copy of your record. | |||
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"i agree with the idea, but how do you prove youve had both jabs" Download ur NHS app it will show on there | |||
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"Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels! But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed. So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in? Hmmmmm... How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again? " Think this is coming into force in September as he's giving younger people a chance to get both Maybe wrong though | |||
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"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting. Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue? A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests Right? Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways We do and we are both double jabbed People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated " Sure, but the vaccine passport removes the need for testing …. So a vaccinated person without a negative test is no more safe than a non vaccinated person who holds a negative test. In a crowded environment regardless of vaccinated or not it’s better to still have a requirement that restricts entry for those who are covid positive ? | |||
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"Nonsense I've been going to restaurants bars in london all the time since April and not one have made me use a app i just said i don't have it." Thats quite the issue.. If you are happy to provide your details thats okay.. Though moving forward it probably wont be | |||
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
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"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting. Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue? A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests Right? Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways We do and we are both double jabbed People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated Sure, but the vaccine passport removes the need for testing …. So a vaccinated person without a negative test is no more safe than a non vaccinated person who holds a negative test. In a crowded environment regardless of vaccinated or not it’s better to still have a requirement that restricts entry for those who are covid positive ?" Exactly so why aren't more people taking responsibility and checking them selves seems too many people don't wanna do anything | |||
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"Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels! But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed. So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in? Hmmmmm... How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again? " This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything. | |||
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"Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels! But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed. So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in? Hmmmmm... How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again? Think this is coming into force in September as he's giving younger people a chance to get both Maybe wrong though " Doesn't matter if its now or September or September next year. If a person is double vaccinated they can still be infectious. Although the evidence seems to point to the being less infectious. But infectious all the same. If the rule introduced today (for Sep) said everyone has to test negative then I'd completely understand it. As it is worded in the speech just given it simply does not make sense. Other than encourage anyone not double vaccinated who wishes to frequent a nightclub to get jabbed. Unless that's the idea? | |||
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"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting. Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue? A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests Right? Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways We do and we are both double jabbed People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated Sure, but the vaccine passport removes the need for testing …. So a vaccinated person without a negative test is no more safe than a non vaccinated person who holds a negative test. In a crowded environment regardless of vaccinated or not it’s better to still have a requirement that restricts entry for those who are covid positive ? Exactly so why aren't more people taking responsibility and checking them selves seems too many people don't wanna do anything " I don’t know, it just feels like today’s announcement will place even less requirement on testing. | |||
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"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??" Social distancing has only just stopped, today in fact | |||
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"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting. Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue? A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests Right? Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways We do and we are both double jabbed People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated Sure, but the vaccine passport removes the need for testing …. So a vaccinated person without a negative test is no more safe than a non vaccinated person who holds a negative test. In a crowded environment regardless of vaccinated or not it’s better to still have a requirement that restricts entry for those who are covid positive ? Exactly so why aren't more people taking responsibility and checking them selves seems too many people don't wanna do anything I don’t know, it just feels like today’s announcement will place even less requirement on testing. " If a very high majority of the adult population is vaccinated, the transmission will be so greatly reduced that testing might not be relevant by then anyway. | |||
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"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??" Think you may be thinking about other dates? We had restrictions this time last year for sure. Take a look here https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2021/01/04/a-timeline-of-uk-lockdown-measures-since-the-pandemic-began/ | |||
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" This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything. " I agree, and I think this is why I am feeling uncomfortable about this development. | |||
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"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??" Because no one was social distancing or wearing masks doesn't mean there were no restrictions. It could mean those people weren't following the restrictions. Social distancing has only stopped being a requirement today I believe. E | |||
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"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short?? Social distancing has only just stopped, today in fact" | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start…" No whingining her just confusion, by the end of September most people will have had 2 months worth of mass gathering opportunities. Seems like paying lip service to peoples concerns. | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start… No whingining her just confusion, by the end of September most people will have had 2 months worth of mass gathering opportunities. Seems like paying lip service to peoples concerns. " Or giving businesses a chance to prepare | |||
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"Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels! But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed. So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in? Hmmmmm... How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again? This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything. " Yeah beat them into submission I say! Healthy fit smug gits that they are. Having the temerity to want to go dancing in clubs and hugging their friends and other sordid practices .. How jealous are we though really ! Bastards! Lol | |||
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" This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything. I agree, and I think this is why I am feeling uncomfortable about this development." As I've said before, free choice sometimes comes with a cost, this is it. | |||
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" This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything. I agree, and I think this is why I am feeling uncomfortable about this development. As I've said before, free choice sometimes comes with a cost, this is it. " | |||
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"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short?? Social distancing has only just stopped, today in fact" Not in my world it ain't | |||
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"no complaints from me a good incentive for the younger generation to get the vax."
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"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination. Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry Goes for clubs as well as any event organised. Comes under the equality act 2010
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"Just to make it clear the covid jab is not law to take it Neither is no covid jab no entry It is only advisory statement via emergency powers." just to make it clear.. You have no chance of getting away with that.. Once someone adds public safety into any policies it will change everything.. And none of those things you quoted will stand up in law | |||
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"no complaints from me a good incentive for the younger generation to get the vax.
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"Just to make it clear the covid jab is not law to take it Neither is no covid jab no entry It is only advisory statement via emergency powers." Will be law in September | |||
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"So what are the consequences of mandating a experimental jab on people? That's right none! 1500 dead and over 1,000,000 adverse reactions, and it is estimated that only a maximum of 10% are reported (check the yellow card system on the government website) with no liability to big pharma or the Government. People are mental on here "You’re not wrong mate. The majority of people believe the most frequently washed body part in 2021 was the Hands. But in fact it was the Brain | |||
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".. coming end of September Proof of negative test will not be enough!!! Watch the whinging start… No whining here just confusion, by the end of September most people will have had 2 months worth of mass gathering opportunities. Seems like paying lip service to peoples concerns. Or giving businesses a chance to prepare" Yeah but the removal of restrictions was pushed back by a month if they let the business know back then I'm sure they could have been prepared by now. If this move is designed to stop the spread of the virous it seems a bit pointless in my mind, given that vaccinated and unvaccinated people will have 2 months to mass gather freely (I know they have been doing this already). I guess I must not be as cleaver as most. | |||
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"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! " Guess you're another one who has been bypassed by the scientific evidence. Full vaccination allows most people to get infected less than unvaccinated people. If they are unfortunate enough to get infected, they get much milder illness levels and much less chance of death. They also are less infectious to others, thus fewer people get infected. It's a clear benefit for everyone and can mean that society reopens quicker and better than whatever the other lot might possibly want. It's restrictions or vaccines to reduce the impact on society. | |||
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