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By *ohnj21 OP Man
over a year ago
Leeds |
Avoiding isolation on new test pilot
One rule them one rule for us. Is it time for vote not confidence or petition to remove them in the interest of the nation.
This can't carry on their lack of capability is serious and death rate is appealing. Why have we done so bad.
In national interest we need to put a goverment unity from all parties |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"Avoiding isolation on new test pilot
One rule them one rule for us. Is it time for vote not confidence or petition to remove them in the interest of the nation.
This can't carry on their lack of capability is serious and death rate is appealing. Why have we done so bad.
In national interest we need to put a goverment unity from all parties "
you do realise that aint gona happen right,you want shot of them your gona have to wait till the next election and hope one of the other partys appeals to more people,myself if things stay the way they are with the other partys there only hope is coalition,prob with that is the libs have had there fingers burnt before and wont wana do that again,the greens aint big enough to make a difference and cant see labour agreeing to go in with the snp because of what they would ask for in return,the tories aint going anywhere for a while yet,and no im not a tory,the one thing i have been thinking is the cons would no way have got all those votes at the last election if the other partys hadnt of brought parliment to a standstill over the B word,im no political expert but could see what was gona happen as soon as an election was called,will take a cpl elections to remove this lot |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here 
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on  |
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on "
No that is wrong from Aug 16th is when this is coming in all info is on gov site this is where it gets confusing  |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on "
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August. |
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By *ohnj21 OP Man
over a year ago
Leeds |
"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on "
Get your facts right 16th Aug
You can't defend Boris. To many people have died who shouldn't in decisive proven act quickly saves lives. Put van tam as pm |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August. "
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong |
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By *ohnj21 OP Man
over a year ago
Leeds |
"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on "
We need leaders in charge not this lot and not political as voted tory.
We need start petition to dicuss removal in oarionant I reckon woukd get at least 20 million |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong"
The trouble is alot of other people wont have read it properly and this will lead to even more cases |
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By *ohnj21 OP Man
over a year ago
Leeds |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong"
Worrying something so important is not clear to public.
We have more deaths per head of population in the world. God knows we're we would be iff the vaccination rollout |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
Worrying something so important is not clear to public.
We have more deaths per head of population in the world. God knows we're we would be iff the vaccination rollout"
It is clear though. I just hadn't read it. If you do read it, it's clear. |
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By *ohnj21 OP Man
over a year ago
Leeds |
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We need start petition to dicuss removal in oarionant I reckon woukd get at least 20 million
Would 20 million understand what this petition is for ? I don't !"
To show goverment we believe they are incapable and need to resigh in national interest.
Its called the one rule for them and the one rule for petition....... Far to many deaths why are in this position when other countries aren't.
Should locked boards to India. Borders never closed.
I hope and pray this doesn't happen beta variant in France if that comes here vaccine don't work.
I voted tory
Enough is enough we need a goverment if national unity |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
This is basically the death nail for track and trace! Regardless of how they spin “trials” people will see it as one rule for them and another for the rest of us!
This is about the worst optics you can have….
I don’t care if you claim to be “randomly selected participants”… if you claim we are all in this together you absolutely have to just bite the bullet and be seen to do the 10 days! |
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By *ohnj21 OP Man
over a year ago
Leeds |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
Worrying something so important is not clear to public.
We have more deaths per head of population in the world. God knows we're we would be iff the vaccination rollout
It is clear though. I just hadn't read it. If you do read it, it's clear."
Well you bead this more seriously. It costs people lives not following rules |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
local, but not too local |
"There’s a pilot we can all take part in - delete the NHS app and stop testing
That's going to save lives.
Not very kind to your vulnerable neighbours.
Very childish "
I know of employers who have instructed their staff to delete the app. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on "
Nice to see you know none of which you speak…….
the test and trace elements are still legally enforceable till august 16th… so therefore if you are pinged or contacted you must self isolate for 10 days |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"There’s a pilot we can all take part in - delete the NHS app and stop testing
That's going to save lives.
Not very kind to your vulnerable neighbours.
Very childish "
Sad thing is they will see what the pm and chancellor did and absolutely remove the app….. |
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"This is basically the death nail for track and trace! Regardless of how they spin “trials” people will see it as one rule for them and another for the rest of us!
This is about the worst optics you can have….
I don’t care if you claim to be “randomly selected participants”… if you claim we are all in this together you absolutely have to just bite the bullet and be seen to do the 10 days! "
This, they know they're effectively saying fuck you lot we do one thing and we expect you to do as we tell you..
They know they are safe in office and will in all likelihood be elected again..
Some will simply delete the app in frustration at this move ..
Shambles.. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
Never had the nhs app or the track and trace app,only place i go with the great unwashed is the supermarket and work,not been pub or resturants since all this started and aint used public transport either |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Part of the process of installing a dictatorship is to goad those that are resisting...so they can clamp down hard!
This is just another prod at those who will react .... |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
The trouble is alot of other people wont have read it properly and this will lead to even more cases "
Yes but their messege is perfectly clear
Apparently |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
The trouble is alot of other people wont have read it properly and this will lead to even more cases
Yes but their messege is perfectly clear
Apparently "
It is clear as, front page three separate dated steps, really not that hard to follow…. people just choose to read what they like |
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By *rufinWoman
over a year ago
notts |
It takes a very long time for people to wake up.
The elite have never followed "the rules' or 'the guidance'. It doesn't apply to them. We are not all in it together. They just need a majority of people to follow the rules so that they don't have to.
While some of you have been living in bubbles, they have been shagging around, traveling, working around the country, holidaying abroad, doing what they wanted.
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
The trouble is alot of other people wont have read it properly and this will lead to even more cases
Yes but their messege is perfectly clear
Apparently
It is clear as, front page three separate dated steps, really not that hard to follow…. people just choose to read what they like "
So whitty saying we must do everything we can to keep ourselves safe and sunak saying he is going to ditch masks at the 1st opportunity,they both correspond with 1 another,? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It takes a very long time for people to wake up.
The elite have never followed "the rules' or 'the guidance'. It doesn't apply to them. We are not all in it together. They just need a majority of people to follow the rules so that they don't have to.
While some of you have been living in bubbles, they have been shagging around, traveling, working around the country, holidaying abroad, doing what they wanted.
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So have I...I refuse to Acquiesce..never have |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Avoiding isolation on new test pilot
One rule them one rule for us. Is it time for vote not confidence or petition to remove them in the interest of the nation.
This can't carry on their lack of capability is serious and death rate is appealing. Why have we done so bad.
In national interest we need to put a goverment unity from all parties "
The funny thing is that this pilot testing is open to public sector departments as they say and yet those 8n the public sector probably have not even heard 9f this pilot I would not be surprised. In fact if the health Secretary had not tested positive we would never of even heard of it probably. Not fit for purpose and yet there is no one who can do the job any better at the moment. I fear. |
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
Get your facts right 16th Aug
You can't defend Boris. To many people have died who shouldn't in decisive proven act quickly saves lives. Put van tam as pm "
If you think too many people have died can you imagine the state of things if we hadn't locked down.
Local parks would be digging trenches for the dead.
I'm not supporting anyone, no political party would have got this 100% correct.
If you think that you are living in a fantasy world.
We are at this place today mainly due to vaccine, as we, the general public would have transmitted this virus on and on until the news showed bodies piling up and then the penny would finally drop that this is serious but by then the damage is done.
Politicians treat us with contempt because by and large we deserve it, this pandemic has just given weight to their argument.
Is there a rule for politicians, rich, elite and one for us, of course there is, always has been, always will.
Stay safe, it's nearly over.
Get your jabs and follow some simple rules. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
Wakefield |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August. "
Since when, restrictions in England end 19 July, tomorrow! |
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This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
Since when, restrictions in England end 19 July, tomorrow!"
Not all restrictions end tomorrow. Eg not allowed to visit hospitals, quarantine when return from France, masks on London transport etc |
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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago
Up North |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
Since when, restrictions in England end 19 July, tomorrow!"
16th Aug is when you don’t need to isolate if been doubled jabbed if been in contact with someone who has the virus |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There’s a pilot we can all take part in - delete the NHS app and stop testing "
The NHS-Covid-19 app is the one you are referring to.
The NHS-App is extremely useful !
The NHS-Covid-19 app is only NHS in the name, it is the Apple/Google Exposure Notification system.
A bit like NHSX, which is a govt/private industry organisation to develop the "NHS digital transformation programme" (selling your data, and no, you cannot opt-out!) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on "
Nope that doesn't come in to affect until August for the rest of us. |
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over a year ago
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"There’s a pilot we can all take part in - delete the NHS app and stop testing
The NHS-Covid-19 app is the one you are referring to.
The NHS-App is extremely useful !
The NHS-Covid-19 app is only NHS in the name, it is the Apple/Google Exposure Notification system.
A bit like NHSX, which is a govt/private industry organisation to develop the "NHS digital transformation programme" (selling your data, and no, you cannot opt-out!)"
Going off on a slight tangent here but we were told the covid 19 app wouldn't drain phone batteries. On average it makes up 40% of my usage on my iPhone 8. My partner has an iPhone 7 and it makes up 80% of his usage. It's probably another reason people are deleting the App. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have deleted the app. I have lost all faith in it the system and the vaccinations "
I deleted mine 2 weeks ago.
The reason being is I was pinged saying I had to isolate for 8 days.
I was very confused as I hadn't left the house from the time I'd Supposedly been in close contact with someone for 3 days.
I called 119 to ask for some clarification and the 1st thing they ask me is if I live in a block of flats? I said yes.
They said by any chance do you live on the ground floor or a corner? Yes to both.
They said it happens all the time and I don't need to self isolate.
I took an LFT test every day for the 8 days anyway just to be on the safe side and I don't go out much anyway but many people have lost out on work and school Completely unnecessarily. |
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By *iss SinWoman
over a year ago
portchester |
"I have deleted the app. I have lost all faith in it the system and the vaccinations
I deleted mine 2 weeks ago.
The reason being is I was pinged saying I had to isolate for 8 days.
I was very confused as I hadn't left the house from the time I'd Supposedly been in close contact with someone for 3 days.
I called 119 to ask for some clarification and the 1st thing they ask me is if I live in a block of flats? I said yes.
They said by any chance do you live on the ground floor or a corner? Yes to both.
They said it happens all the time and I don't need to self isolate.
I took an LFT test every day for the 8 days anyway just to be on the safe side and I don't go out much anyway but many people have lost out on work and school Completely unnecessarily. "
The system is a joke the whole thing is a joke and we have all been lied to and now how can anyone trust the politicians or the vaccines |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Well that u-turn didn’t take long… Johnson and Sunak are now both going to self isolate!!
Why did someone think that were going to get away with doing it without backlash |
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"Well that u-turn didn’t take long… Johnson and Sunak are now both going to self isolate!!
Why did someone think that were going to get away with doing it without backlash "
Thanks Fabio, for the update. They are pretty stupid |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have deleted the app. I have lost all faith in it the system and the vaccinations
I deleted mine 2 weeks ago.
The reason being is I was pinged saying I had to isolate for 8 days.
I was very confused as I hadn't left the house from the time I'd Supposedly been in close contact with someone for 3 days.
I called 119 to ask for some clarification and the 1st thing they ask me is if I live in a block of flats? I said yes.
They said by any chance do you live on the ground floor or a corner? Yes to both.
They said it happens all the time and I don't need to self isolate.
I took an LFT test every day for the 8 days anyway just to be on the safe side and I don't go out much anyway but many people have lost out on work and school Completely unnecessarily.
The system is a joke the whole thing is a joke and we have all been lied to and now how can anyone trust the politicians or the vaccines "
I have been on board with the restrictions since the beginning.
I have stuck to every rule (I'm exempt from wearing a face covering but do so when I can)
But I am sick of the hypocrisy and now and just think like you the its a joke! I Don't mean Covid is a joke but the our so called leaders.
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By and large I think government has done about as good as any government would and could have, expectations of government must be realistic! But Borris is going to get badly burnt for this very arrogant, moronic decision today. I’m not shocked but I am deeply disappointed and angry. Leaders need to demonstrate leadership and this decision not to lead by example and ignore the guidelines the rest of us are expected to follow is a massive fk up. |
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over a year ago
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"Well that u-turn didn’t take long… Johnson and Sunak are now both going to self isolate!!
Why did someone think that were going to get away with doing it without backlash "
There's a surprise, They really think the public are stupid to think they could get away with this again. |
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"Well that u-turn didn’t take long… Johnson and Sunak are now both going to self isolate!!
Why did someone think that were going to get away with doing it without backlash "
Good. Any of their advisors not screaming at them to do so from the start need fired immediately! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well that u-turn didn’t take long… Johnson and Sunak are now both going to self isolate!!
Why did someone think that were going to get away with doing it without backlash "
To late, the damage is already done. |
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"By and large I think government has done about as good as any government would and could have, expectations of government must be realistic! "
So why do we have the third highest figures in the world ? |
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"Avoiding isolation on new test pilot
One rule them one rule for us. Is it time for vote not confidence or petition to remove them in the interest of the nation.
This can't carry on their lack of capability is serious and death rate is appealing. Why have we done so bad.
In national interest we need to put a goverment unity from all parties "
I've said this before,if you see a person who's in charge jump of a cliff would you protests to do the same or use your common sense that it's not a good idea? You should do what you can to keep yourself and your loved ones safe. They have their reasons for not isolating you should just do you . Does them two not isolating impact your life directly? I doubt it. And by the way as of 10:55 am they are going to isolate. |
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
Wiltshire and London |
Deleting the test and trace app would be stupid, but they know that's what people will do.
What needs deleting is this government. That can't happen before a GE, and even then a progressive alliance is the only way; thanks to the Lab and Lib diehards that won't happen.
So a national vote of no-confidence needs to happen. The most likely way of doing that would be a petition. |
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"By and large I think government has done about as good as any government would and could have, expectations of government must be realistic!
So why do we have the third highest figures in the world ?"
Coz of people who do as they please and say if someone else can do it why can't I. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve always been quite level headed regarding the government. Agreed with somethings, disagreed with others but would have hated making the decisions they have had to make however this was the final straw for me. I can’t believe they are being so irresponsible. Yeah the test thing may work but how is that for showing others do as I say rather than do as I do. It just gives the selfish out there even more excuse to not isolate and spread Covid. |
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"By and large I think government has done about as good as any government would and could have, expectations of government must be realistic!
So why do we have the third highest figures in the world ?"
Let me see
List of excuses.
Because we have a disobedient population
Beaicause we have a unique climate
Because we have a unique way of counting figures
I'm sure there are plenty more I've forgotten but its absolutely nothing to do with having an inept clown in charge.
No siree Bob
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
Worrying something so important is not clear to public.
We have more deaths per head of population in the world. God knows we're we would be iff the vaccination rollout"
totally false, you need to get your facts right mate |
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Tbf I find it quite strange that they completely ignored it at the beginning,their incompetence has led to 1000s of deaths,the health secretary regularly broke his own rules but its a minor infraction which has pushed people over the edge. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
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That isn't true. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There’s a pilot we can all take part in - delete the NHS app and stop testing
That's going to save lives.
Not very kind to your vulnerable neighbours.
Very childish
I know of employers who have instructed their staff to delete the app. "
You could argue that's Criminal and so so selfish on their part |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Breaking news, they've back tracked on the "pilot scheme" after the backlash. They are now apparently self isolating!
I hope people remember their judgement come polling day - but I bet they won't! |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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To the OP there is a pilot scheme going on where people don't have to isolate, the only three people I have heard being on it are Gove after he came back from the football in Portugal , the PM and the chancellor.
It would be interesting to see the stats of how many others have been on the scheme |
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"To the OP there is a pilot scheme going on where people don't have to isolate, the only three people I have heard being on it are Gove after he came back from the football in Portugal , the PM and the chancellor.
It would be interesting to see the stats of how many others have been on the scheme"
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
We need leaders in charge not this lot and not political as voted tory.
We need start petition to dicuss removal in oarionant I reckon woukd get at least 20 million"
I think I might move this to the political section as it seems to be more about the running of the country rather than the virus |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"I have deleted the app. I have lost all faith in it the system and the vaccinations
More fool you then. Grow up. "
yea that will convince someone to re install it telling them to grow up lol what about those of us who never installed it? |
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"By and large I think government has done about as good as any government would and could have, expectations of government must be realistic!
So why do we have the third highest figures in the world ?"
Because the testing, recording and reporting procedures between different countries are so different they are almost not comparable! Population demographics are also very important, we have more elderly, more obesity and more generally unhealthy people than many other nations. Ultimately most people will catch Covid at some point, some countries are simply lagging behind us. NZ and Aus may be low in the table but Covid will eventually rip through them too, it’s unavoidable. |
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It would be interesting to see the stats of how many others have been on the scheme"
Apparently Transport for London are part of the scheme, so I am baffled why two underground lines had to close yesterday due to staff "pinged" and isolating |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"To the OP there is a pilot scheme going on where people don't have to isolate, the only three people I have heard being on it are Gove after he came back from the football in Portugal , the PM and the chancellor.
It would be interesting to see the stats of how many others have been on the scheme"
Without this turning really political (it already is.. so fuck it!) we may not find out till tomorrow because you know labour are going to bring this up as a UQ (urgent question) and some low level health minister (because javid has covid) will be dragged into parliament to answer it….
I would love to know who’s idea it really was that though the loophole would fly…. They need to be sacked as their judgement seems to be lacking!
Dear lord… I almost feel bad for jenrick who had to defend this on all the Sunday shows this morning…. |
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"By and large I think government has done about as good as any government would and could have, expectations of government must be realistic!
So why do we have the third highest figures in the world ?
Because the testing, recording and reporting procedures between different countries are so different they are almost not comparable! Population demographics are also very important, we have more elderly, more obesity and more generally unhealthy people than many other nations. Ultimately most people will catch Covid at some point, some countries are simply lagging behind us. NZ and Aus may be low in the table but Covid will eventually rip through them too, it’s unavoidable."
We are really unlucky arent we?
The only country in the world to have an old and unhealthy population. |
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It would be interesting to see the stats of how many others have been on the scheme
Apparently Transport for London are part of the scheme, so I am baffled why two underground lines had to close yesterday due to staff "pinged" and isolating "
Maybe the government forgot to tell them they were part of the scheme  |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"To the OP there is a pilot scheme going on where people don't have to isolate, the only three people I have heard being on it are Gove after he came back from the football in Portugal , the PM and the chancellor.
It would be interesting to see the stats of how many others have been on the scheme
Without this turning really political (it already is.. so fuck it!) we may not find out till tomorrow because you know labour are going to bring this up as a UQ (urgent question) and some low level health minister (because javid has covid) will be dragged into parliament to answer it….
I would love to know who’s idea it really was that though the loophole would fly…. They need to be sacked as their judgement seems to be lacking!
Dear lord… I almost feel bad for jenrick who had to defend this on all the Sunday shows this morning…."
I know, I have a problem with the virus threads as sometimes they do go into just political stuff but they are also about the virus. This one may have settled down now
Javid could answer the question by zoom as he says he isn't too unwell.
Sadly this is how it seems to have been all the way through this, it seems we are not "all in this together" and never have been |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Time for. A few debate on whether the goverment should resign due to incompetence and lack of trust "
Ok, do you want this to be about the Gov resigning or the fact they cocked up over isolating? |
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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
Get your facts right 16th Aug
You can't defend Boris. To many people have died who shouldn't in decisive proven act quickly saves lives. Put van tam as pm
If you think too many people have died can you imagine the state of things if we hadn't locked down.
Local parks would be digging trenches for the dead.
I'm not supporting anyone, no political party would have got this 100% correct.
If you think that you are living in a fantasy world.
We are at this place today mainly due to vaccine, as we, the general public would have transmitted this virus on and on until the news showed bodies piling up and then the penny would finally drop that this is serious but by then the damage is done.
Politicians treat us with contempt because by and large we deserve it, this pandemic has just given weight to their argument.
Is there a rule for politicians, rich, elite and one for us, of course there is, always has been, always will.
Stay safe, it's nearly over.
Get your jabs and follow some simple rules."
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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So we know that test and trace worked…. But how do you now tell people to go self isolate, when your immediate reaction was “find a loophole”
Test and trace is basically dead …….  |
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"So we know that test and trace worked…. But how do you now tell people to go self isolate, when your immediate reaction was “find a loophole”
Test and trace is basically dead ……. "
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"We are supposed to leave the running of the country to these people. It’s a nerve wrecking experience "
Tbf he was prepared to go on the sooty show and get injected live on air to show covid wasnt dangerous.
Thats dedication for you. |
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"So we know that test and trace worked…. But how do you now tell people to go self isolate, when your immediate reaction was “find a loophole”
Test and trace is basically dead …….
Well at least we didnt spend much money on it?"
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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You know we got up late so didn't see the News until half hour ago, when I saw it I wasn't even surprised or register that they were going to do that, which makes it really bad that it was to be expected. I must have got too used to the double standards going on that they didn't even register
I see people were up in arms over it on the net so why they U turned but the fact they keep doing these things is awful. They are way out of touch with people who have been doing as asked for months |
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"You know we got up late so didn't see the News until half hour ago, when I saw it I wasn't even surprised or register that they were going to do that, which makes it really bad that it was to be expected. I must have got too used to the double standards going on that they didn't even register
I see people were up in arms over it on the net so why they U turned but the fact they keep doing these things is awful. They are way out of touch with people who have been doing as asked for months "
Same here.
I'm surprised people are so up in arms about it |
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on "
to be fair I was thinking very similar thoughts... |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"You know we got up late so didn't see the News until half hour ago, when I saw it I wasn't even surprised or register that they were going to do that, which makes it really bad that it was to be expected. I must have got too used to the double standards going on that they didn't even register
I see people were up in arms over it on the net so why they U turned but the fact they keep doing these things is awful. They are way out of touch with people who have been doing as asked for months "
They make a decision then wait to see the reaction then u-turn. It’s shocking behaviour. Just do the right thing, it’s not that difficult. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on to be fair I was thinking very similar thoughts... "
This was wrong information, it doesn't kick in until August 16th |
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on to be fair I was thinking very similar thoughts...
This was wrong information, it doesn't kick in until August 16th"
ahh I see.. see I thought that was next week too as I've has several people quote it at me.
I believe according to the news they are now going to |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on to be fair I was thinking very similar thoughts...
This was wrong information, it doesn't kick in until August 16th ahh I see.. see I thought that was next week too as I've has several people quote it at me.
I believe according to the news they are now going to"
I would have thought you would know as you say you work in care |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on to be fair I was thinking very similar thoughts...
This was wrong information, it doesn't kick in until August 16th ahh I see.. see I thought that was next week too as I've has several people quote it at me.
I believe according to the news they are now going to"
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on to be fair I was thinking very similar thoughts...
This was wrong information, it doesn't kick in until August 16th ahh I see.. see I thought that was next week too as I've has several people quote it at me.
I believe according to the news they are now going to"
The need to not self isolate from tomorrow is only for double vaccinated travellers returning from amber list countries (with the exception of France). However, if you are in contact with a positive Covid case, travellers DO have to follow the Track & Trace rules.
From 16th August, double vaccinated people and U18s no longer need to self isolate if in contact with a positive case, unless they develop symptoms.
Totally straightforward....... |
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"I'm probably gonna get accused of defending Johnson at all costs here
As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on "
Advised to take pcr .... thought we HAD TOO ? |
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"How were they so arrogant not to sense the uproar ?"
Because the whole premise of this government was built upon a lie, 'get brexit done'..
And populism as we've seen globally allows people like Boris to be PM based upon clichés, demonising opposition, ignoring democracy and constantly lying as he has done all his working life..
Power corrupts yet people are happy to let it happen then when it goes pear shaped it's everyone's fault but those in charge..
Eton mess.. |
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"How were they so arrogant not to sense the uproar ?
Because the whole premise of this government was built upon a lie, 'get brexit done'..
And populism as we've seen globally allows people like Boris to be PM based upon clichés, demonising opposition, ignoring democracy and constantly lying as he has done all his working life..
Power corrupts yet people are happy to let it happen then when it goes pear shaped it's everyone's fault but those in charge..
Eton mess.."
Just tell people what they wanna hear..the truth doesnt actually matter. |
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"Avoiding isolation on new test pilot
One rule them one rule for us. Is it time for vote not confidence or petition to remove them in the interest of the nation.
This can't carry on their lack of capability is serious and death rate is appealing. Why have we done so bad.
In national interest we need to put a goverment unity from all parties "
Oh yes they are.. Pmsl |
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Eton mess..
Another Eton chum has just been appointed Head of the Ethics Committee."
And they're looking to enact legislation to prevent groups like the good law project from holding them accountable in the courts over alleged corruption etc in PPE contracts by claiming it costs too much public money to defend against..
Like wtf.. |
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Eton mess..
Another Eton chum has just been appointed Head of the Ethics Committee.
And they're looking to enact legislation to prevent groups like the good law project from holding them accountable in the courts over alleged corruption etc in PPE contracts by claiming it costs too much public money to defend against..
Like wtf.."
Thank God we dont live in n Korea or China. |
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Eton mess..
Another Eton chum has just been appointed Head of the Ethics Committee.
And they're looking to enact legislation to prevent groups like the good law project from holding them accountable in the courts over alleged corruption etc in PPE contracts by claiming it costs too much public money to defend against..
Like wtf.."
… there is however a feeling that perhaps the courts are growing tired of groups such as GLP trying to use the judiciary to politicise their opposition to the actions of the government. |
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"Avoiding isolation on new test pilot
One rule them one rule for us. Is it time for vote not confidence or petition to remove them in the interest of the nation.
This can't carry on their lack of capability is serious and death rate is appealing. Why have we done so bad.
In national interest we need to put a goverment unity from all parties "
This is yet another example if how this government thinks.. Everything is ' workable' until it becomes personal then they look after themselves..
Them and their policies and procedures would benefit greatly from a swift kick out the door and a can of petrol and a match frankly! |
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I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that the elite and upper classes are doing what they choose?
Its been this way for hundreds if not thousands of years and will continue to do so.
Just because entities like Facebook and Twitter are available so their activities are far more accessible won't make a difference.
If I was minted and could charter my own plane to fly to a private island all done away from the riff raff I bloody well would.
Bojo isn't what you would class as a commoner.
But labour or conservative when was the last decent PM this country had who people trusted and was strong and reliable? |
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Here’s the thing it’s not just the elite who are getting preferential treatment re Covid restrictions.
You work from home? Here’s your full salary plus a nice little savings on your travel expenses.
You can’t work from home? Go out and take that risk
You can’t work from home and your job isn’t essential? Here’s 80% of your salary now stay at home.
You can work from home? Go take a holiday, you’ll have to quarantine when you get back, but you work from home so you’ll still get paid.
You can’t work from home? Go on holiday if you want, but you’ll have to quarantine when you get back. Obviously you can’t work so here’s £19 a week to tide you over. |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
The trouble is alot of other people wont have read it properly and this will lead to even more cases
Yes but their messege is perfectly clear
Apparently
It is clear as, front page three separate dated steps, really not that hard to follow…. people just choose to read what they like
So whitty saying we must do everything we can to keep ourselves safe and sunak saying he is going to ditch masks at the 1st opportunity,they both correspond with 1 another,?"
I don’t watch or listen to them. I read the official papers only, know what I need to do and that is that. I don’t need to listen to 3/4 other people’s opinions on it
As for the app, I have it but the constant tracking is turned off. It is only used to check into venues and nothing else. |
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"I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that the elite and upper classes are doing what they choose?
Its been this way for hundreds if not thousands of years and will continue to do so.
Just because entities like Facebook and Twitter are available so their activities are far more accessible won't make a difference.
If I was minted and could charter my own plane to fly to a private island all done away from the riff raff I bloody well would.
Bojo isn't what you would class as a commoner.
But labour or conservative when was the last decent PM this country had who people trusted and was strong and reliable?"
Robert Peel?! |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
The trouble is alot of other people wont have read it properly and this will lead to even more cases
Yes but their messege is perfectly clear
Apparently
It is clear as, front page three separate dated steps, really not that hard to follow…. people just choose to read what they like
So whitty saying we must do everything we can to keep ourselves safe and sunak saying he is going to ditch masks at the 1st opportunity,they both correspond with 1 another,?
I don’t watch or listen to them. I read the official papers only, know what I need to do and that is that. I don’t need to listen to 3/4 other people’s opinions on it
As for the app, I have it but the constant tracking is turned off. It is only used to check into venues and nothing else. "
I never have my Bluetooth switched on other than if I need to so the apps pretty useless.
But when you test positive the app goes nuts. |
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"I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that the elite and upper classes are doing what they choose?
Its been this way for hundreds if not thousands of years and will continue to do so.
Just because entities like Facebook and Twitter are available so their activities are far more accessible won't make a difference.
If I was minted and could charter my own plane to fly to a private island all done away from the riff raff I bloody well would.
Bojo isn't what you would class as a commoner.
But labour or conservative when was the last decent PM this country had who people trusted and was strong and reliable?"
Just because saying they are all the same (which they aren't)its no excuse to let them get away with the shit they pull. |
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"I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that the elite and upper classes are doing what they choose?
Its been this way for hundreds if not thousands of years and will continue to do so.
Just because entities like Facebook and Twitter are available so their activities are far more accessible won't make a difference.
If I was minted and could charter my own plane to fly to a private island all done away from the riff raff I bloody well would.
Bojo isn't what you would class as a commoner.
But labour or conservative when was the last decent PM this country had who people trusted and was strong and reliable?
Just because saying they are all the same (which they aren't)its no excuse to let them get away with the shit they pull."
What's the solution then? |
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"I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that the elite and upper classes are doing what they choose?
Its been this way for hundreds if not thousands of years and will continue to do so.
Just because entities like Facebook and Twitter are available so their activities are far more accessible won't make a difference.
If I was minted and could charter my own plane to fly to a private island all done away from the riff raff I bloody well would.
Bojo isn't what you would class as a commoner.
But labour or conservative when was the last decent PM this country had who people trusted and was strong and reliable?
Just because saying they are all the same (which they aren't)its no excuse to let them get away with the shit they pull.
What's the solution then?"
To what? |
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over a year ago
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"I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that the elite and upper classes are doing what they choose?
Its been this way for hundreds if not thousands of years and will continue to do so.
Just because entities like Facebook and Twitter are available so their activities are far more accessible won't make a difference.
If I was minted and could charter my own plane to fly to a private island all done away from the riff raff I bloody well would.
Bojo isn't what you would class as a commoner.
But labour or conservative when was the last decent PM this country had who people trusted and was strong and reliable?"
I don’t understand why you are defending them and their terrible antics |
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over a year ago
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"I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that the elite and upper classes are doing what they choose?
Its been this way for hundreds if not thousands of years and will continue to do so.
Just because entities like Facebook and Twitter are available so their activities are far more accessible won't make a difference.
If I was minted and could charter my own plane to fly to a private island all done away from the riff raff I bloody well would.
Bojo isn't what you would class as a commoner.
But labour or conservative when was the last decent PM this country had who people trusted and was strong and reliable?
Just because saying they are all the same (which they aren't)its no excuse to let them get away with the shit they pull."
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"I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that the elite and upper classes are doing what they choose?
Its been this way for hundreds if not thousands of years and will continue to do so.
Just because entities like Facebook and Twitter are available so their activities are far more accessible won't make a difference.
If I was minted and could charter my own plane to fly to a private island all done away from the riff raff I bloody well would.
Bojo isn't what you would class as a commoner.
But labour or conservative when was the last decent PM this country had who people trusted and was strong and reliable?
I don’t understand why you are defending them and their terrible antics "
Who said I was defending them?
I have no love for any particular party and in particular the conservative party however I was pointing out that they will do exactly what the ruling class have always done.
Exactly what the fuck they like.
We are just ignorant Plebs to them.
But who is there available to do any better?
And for many on here regardless they are anti establishment and will continue to pursue their own agenda.
So who said I'm defending them? |
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
The trouble is alot of other people wont have read it properly and this will lead to even more cases
Yes but their messege is perfectly clear
Apparently
It is clear as, front page three separate dated steps, really not that hard to follow…. people just choose to read what they like
So whitty saying we must do everything we can to keep ourselves safe and sunak saying he is going to ditch masks at the 1st opportunity,they both correspond with 1 another,?
I don’t watch or listen to them. I read the official papers only, know what I need to do and that is that. I don’t need to listen to 3/4 other people’s opinions on it
As for the app, I have it but the constant tracking is turned off. It is only used to check into venues and nothing else.
I never have my Bluetooth switched on other than if I need to so the apps pretty useless.
But when you test positive the app goes nuts."
I can have my Bluetooth on doesn’t affect the app, as I turned the tracking off within the app itself. I’ve not yet tested positive or any of my family so can’t comment on that element |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As of tomorrow anyone who has been double jabbed doesn't have to isolate, they will be advised to take a pcr test to ensure they haven't contracted the virus.
So Johnson and Sunak have kicked there's in a couple of days before. Woweeh. If they taken tests then let them crack on
This isn't true about tomorrow . It comes into effect 16 August.
My bad. It is indeed the 16th August that this comes into effect.
I'll admit to having not read it properly and getting it wrong
The trouble is alot of other people wont have read it properly and this will lead to even more cases
Yes but their messege is perfectly clear
Apparently
It is clear as, front page three separate dated steps, really not that hard to follow…. people just choose to read what they like
So whitty saying we must do everything we can to keep ourselves safe and sunak saying he is going to ditch masks at the 1st opportunity,they both correspond with 1 another,?
I don’t watch or listen to them. I read the official papers only, know what I need to do and that is that. I don’t need to listen to 3/4 other people’s opinions on it
As for the app, I have it but the constant tracking is turned off. It is only used to check into venues and nothing else.
I never have my Bluetooth switched on other than if I need to so the apps pretty useless.
But when you test positive the app goes nuts."
Of you never have your Bluetooth on , how do you know the app goes nuts if you test positive? |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"Avoiding isolation on new test pilot
One rule them one rule for us. Is it time for vote not confidence or petition to remove them in the interest of the nation.
This can't carry on their lack of capability is serious and death rate is appealing. Why have we done so bad.
In national interest we need to put a goverment unity from all parties "
It's never going to happen the thought that we might have got rid of him before and didn't because he won the seats smells bit niffy |
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Think the old Covid Cabin Fever is starting to get out of hand.
Just wait till we are all released, men crying in pubs because someone brushed passed them.
Queues outside church halls waiting to get into weight watchers.
A mass exodus from Fab forums as real meets start to take hold.
Not long now, keep washing those filthy mitts especially after an extended pot noodle and porn extravaganza. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
I think it’s kinda woeful that TFL did not know that they were part of the scheme… because no one from government had actually gotten back to them with all of the questions they asked about how to run and implement….. |
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