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Cancel July 19th by 1000 Scientists

By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

Most of the science says don't open back up. Economic,political and human factors point to reopening. Scientists are scientists not economists or politicians, so of course they are going to most notice of science.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

Yes OP that's why over 1000 professionals who have dedicated their lives to the fighting the exact thing that's causing the lockdowns and DEATH'S who just want to prevent it carrying on and causing more deaths and illness, are only in it for the fame.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Guess it's easier to accept a conspiracy than a difficult reality.

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By *Marvel-Man over a year ago

In The Gym

They're right to do it. They didn't just sign a petition either. Some also wrote a letter, which was published online. The various Drs/Professors/Cheif Scientists gave their reasons and they were all valid.

It's clear now that England's plan is to use hybrid herd immunity. A mix of vaccinations and infection of kids and teenagers. Other countries are trying to achieve this via vaccinations without giving millions of people covid. Its a bizarre and unethical move.

The Netherlands stopped all restrictions a few weeks ago. Then had to start them again. Their PM literally went on TV and had to apologise by saying they got it wrong due to a massive spike in cases. Their case rate wasn't even anywhere near what England's currently is as well.

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"They're right to do it. They didn't just sign a petition either. Some also wrote a letter, which was published online. The various Drs/Professors/Cheif Scientists gave their reasons and they were all valid.

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time. "

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method "

But op lots of the people currently getting sick from covid and having bad reactions are the one's in the younger group's.

You seem to have changed your point tho.

You said that scientists are only doing it to look more important,that's very different from what you have just said.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method "

If you can back up your claims with scientific evidence, you can send it for peer review and publication in the appropriate professional journals.

Otherwise, it's better to depend on the people who really know what they are doing.

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By *awk90Man over a year ago

Amsterdam

As a scientist, I believe the scientists. Also looking at the case numbers, we are in a steep exponential growth even now, before the end of lockdown and before the last Euro 2020 match infections show up. It's not going well in England

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method

But op lots of the people currently getting sick from covid and having bad reactions are the one's in the younger group's.

You seem to have changed your point tho.

You said that scientists are only doing it to look more important,that's very different from what you have just said."

Well my personal opinion is generally further lockdown isn't good for anyone

But also I stand by what I said, the scientists just want to look important.. They're not dumb...if we don't get out of lockdown in the summer then we most likely will be in lockdown till next year..

People will start to wonder why tell us to get vaccinated, when 60% of all adults and over 50% of the entire population are fully vaccinated and you're still insisting on extended the lockdown

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By *Marvel-Man over a year ago

In The Gym

"As a scientist, I believe the scientists. Also looking at the case numbers, we are in a steep exponential growth even now, before the end of lockdown and before the last Euro 2020 match infections show up. It's not going well in England"

It will rise even more sharply as the England matches probably caused countless super spreader events.

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

You're looking at the cases, look at the hospitalisations and how many of them spend the night in the hospital..

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By *ustaceSmithMan over a year ago

Saxmundham

The elephant in the room - which the Government is reckless in ignoring - is that, on top of everything else, with high levels of community transmission the rates of mutation increase, raising the risk of a vaccine-resistant mutation developing, which will take us back to the beginning. The only possible benefit of this would be the resignation of the PM from a position to which he is preternaturally unsuited.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method "

We are not in a lockdown, we just have some restrictions

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"The elephant in the room - which the Government is reckless in ignoring - is that, on top of everything else, with high levels of community transmission the rates of mutation increase, raising the risk of a vaccine-resistant mutation developing, which will take us back to the beginning. The only possible benefit of this would be the resignation of the PM from a position to which he is preternaturally unsuited."

Lol trust me you don't want Boris to resign... 1. There's no one in parliament suited for the job, say what you will about Boris at least he got balls (you can see it from what he did in 2019 to force the Brexit deal by suspending Parliament)

2. No one wants the job..whether he opens on July 19 2021 or July 19 2022, there'll always be a group that'll Complain..

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method

We are not in a lockdown, we just have some restrictions"

But these restrictions are causing more harm than good to some of the younger population than Covid 19.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

2. No one wants the job..whether he opens on July 19 2021 or July 19 2022, there'll always be a group that'll Complain.."

Yes you can fault his bravery

Like the time he hid in a fridge so he wouldnt have to be interviewed.

Or that he womt answer a simple question

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method

We are not in a lockdown, we just have some restrictions

But these restrictions are causing more harm than good to some of the younger population than Covid 19. "

Although I personally think the youngsters have been great in helping the older and vulnerable in all this we are all in the same boat. It affects all of us in one way or another.

Taking away all mitigations will make the cases rise, possible mutations, people especially youngsters or unvaccinated going to hospital, NHS overloaded, more chance of people getting it because so many people have it, then add long covid in the mix might end up another lockdown anyway

After all this time of restrictions, I think we are throwing it all away.

No, before anyone accuses me of wanting to hide behind a sofa or have restrictions for ever ( we are not in lockdown ) I don't, but I also don't want to have to start all over again if this goes wrong

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By *ympho6969Woman over a year ago

glasgow

I think i speak for many people when i say we are all sick of lockdown and covid.

That being said, there is no need to rush when we are clesrly not ready for the next phase. It will only cause another, longer lockdown and more loss of life that probably could have been avoided.

I am so over lockdown but that doesnt mean we should be wreckless in order to let people socialise, save businesses and other things. There are althernatives. Businesses for the most part have adapted well given the last year and the government is helping out a lot more than other countries are...

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"I think i speak for many people when i say we are all sick of lockdown and covid.

That being said, there is no need to rush when we are clesrly not ready for the next phase. It will only cause another, longer lockdown and more loss of life that probably could have been avoided.

I agree with you to an extent, keeping the masks and ensuring you have a recent covid test before entering any public setting is a good way to keep the cases down

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By *otsossieMan over a year ago

local, but not too local

I was just chatting to a clinician friend and they are appalled. There’s a huge backlog at the NHS caused by sickness and they simply can’t catch up on things like routine operations.

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method

We are not in a lockdown, we just have some restrictions

But these restrictions are causing more harm than good to some of the younger population than Covid 19.

Although I personally think the youngsters have been great in helping the older and vulnerable in all this we are all in the same boat. It affects all of us in one way or another.

After all this time of restrictions, I think we are throwing it all away.

Lol I was about to accused you of wanting to hide behind a sofa haha (joking)

Yes we've all played our part in keeping the cases down, I'm not saying every precaution should be out the window but there are ways we could adapt our way of life and learn to live with the virus. Restriction isn't sustainable

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

But these restrictions are causing more harm than good to some of the younger population than Covid 19.

Although I personally think the youngsters have been great in helping the older and vulnerable in all this we are all in the same boat. It affects all of us in one way or another.

After all this time of restrictions, I think we are throwing it all away.

Lol I was about to accused you of wanting to hide behind a sofa haha (joking)

It doesn't have to be forever, it just has to be a safe time to stop all of them and I don't believe this is the right time

You talk about vulnerable people, at the moment the guidance for those who have shielded for most of the last 16 months are being told don't go near anyone unless they are double jabbed, (how they would know who was or not if out and about I don't know )

Waiting another month until everyone who wants a vaccination is vaccinated and keeping mitigations would hopefully keep cases down and help everyone.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple over a year ago

liverpool

How many of these scientist have weighed up the cost of lockdown against the cost of opening up? Very few I suspect. We can't just listen to the scientists who look at covid in isolation we need to look at the big picture.

Lockdown is doing far more damage than COVID ever will.

Once we actually get accurate figures for people in hospital for covid (not with) I'm confident that well realise covid is a not a problem anymore.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The Government were given many different scenarios and models based on when lockdown ends.

They ONLY looked at the earliest date (19th July) and went from there. They never considered the other dates!

The government is following dates rather than science.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many of these scientist have weighed up the cost of lockdown against the cost of opening up? Very few I suspect. We can't just listen to the scientists who look at covid in isolation we need to look at the big picture.

Lockdown is doing far more damage than COVID ever will.

Once we actually get accurate figures for people in hospital for covid (not with) I'm confident that well realise covid is a not a problem anymore."

We are not in isolation though?

We're free to go out to travel, dine, drink, meet friends etc. We're in no way in the same position as we were last year.

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By *ockle77Man over a year ago

mids

This virus is at least 18 months old with so we’re told numerous variants,when a virus mutates it’s always to a weaker strain never a stronger strain . So letting us get back to normal will create herd immunity leading to covid mutating down to a common cold .. there’s lots to read on this away from the so called conspiracy sites , look for yourself

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

The virus doesn't listen to you or Boris.

Obviously we haven't got enough people vaccinated so should stop and wait till then. We're going to upto 2k people day in hospital that's wny scientists saying it.

Or shall we take yours and Boris view stick head in sand ignore it may go away.

Incredible you wish it and will disappear

Scientists are right.

Oh and opening up 60k arena that was, a smart move. Not

We all want it to back to normally but safely.

Boris advice to vulnerable don't go near anyone who hasn't had 2nd jab.

How the **** would they know

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

"This virus is at least 18 months old with so we’re told numerous variants,when a virus mutates it’s always to a weaker strain never a stronger strain . So letting us get back to normal will create herd immunity leading to covid mutating down to a common cold .. there’s lots to read on this away from the so called conspiracy sites , look for yourself "

Muted to stronger strain or same

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

Tell people in hospital and dying.

Also killed 100s k in India so how can that be weaker.

Head in sand approach

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

"The Government were given many different scenarios and models based on when lockdown ends.

They ONLY looked at the earliest date (19th July) and went from there. They never considered the other dates!

The government is following dates rather than science."

Ageed

Byy the way most people don't trust tge government

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

Lockdown is doing far more damage than COVID ever will.

Once we actually get accurate figures for people in hospital for covid (not with) I'm confident that well realise covid is a not a problem anymore."

Tell the familes at the funeral. It's not a problem

Can you tell me why Liverpool have so low rate of vaccine take-up

Pathetic

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

2. No one wants the job..whether he opens on July 19 2021 or July 19 2022, there'll always be a group that'll Complain..

Yes you can fault his bravery

Like the time he hid in a fridge so he wouldnt have to be interviewed.

Or that he womt answer a simple question

Boris, won't even admit how many kids he's got

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By *ockle77Man over a year ago

mids

If the BBC tell you that it must be true

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

So u think no virus

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

"If the BBC tell you that it must be true "

Do u think the earth is flat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We're all DOOMED!!! Plants an insects and old wooden pallets will inherit the earth

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By *ockle77Man over a year ago

mids

I think there’s a virus I don’t think it warranted the reaction of locking us down for 18 months, ruining life’s , livelihoods and kids education and mental health. You really think the government cares about the well being of the vulnerable? , you have your blinkered view and illl have mine , have a good day

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

"I think there’s a virus I don’t think it warranted the reaction of locking us down for 18 months, ruining life’s , livelihoods and kids education and mental health. You really think the government cares about the well being of the vulnerable? , you have your blinkered view and illl have mine , have a good day "

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

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By *andyfloss2000Woman over a year ago

ashford

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method "

I'm with u ! X

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By *ockle77Man over a year ago

mids

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

"
leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method

I'm with u ! X"

We need more people vacinated

Why have decreased vaccination rate

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple over a year ago

liverpool

Lockdown is doing far more damage than COVID ever will.

Once we actually get accurate figures for people in hospital for covid (not with) I'm confident that well realise covid is a not a problem anymore.

We are not in isolation though?

We're free to go out to travel, dine, drink, meet friends etc. We're in no way in the same position as we were last year."

I said the scientists are looking at covid in isolation not we are in isolation.

And no, we're not in the same position as last year, clearly. Which is why we should have opened the country up months ago and stopped relying on skewed "with covid" rather than people who actually have covid is a problem.

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan over a year ago

North west

The reality is, there is no correct decision here.

Whatever happens regarding restrictions or no restrictions, covid will impact us as country, directly or indirectly.

I think the government is just clinging to the hope that the public will carry on by using common sense, unfortunately we have a proportion of our society who don’t have common sense, so I can’t see that happening.

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By *ittleAcornMan over a year ago

visiting the beach

As a few people have mentioned, we are not in lockdown. There are some (fairly lax) restrictions in place, stopping us from doing some things, and making some other things a bit inconvenient.

Do you remember what a lockdown really was, not going out at all etc. (even then it was not as harsh as in other countries).

If the virus is not controlled, if we have more mutations, we'll be going back to "proper" lockdown.

I say keep the restrictions in place.

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By *otsossieMan over a year ago

local, but not too local

"If the virus is not controlled, if we have more mutations, we'll be going back to "proper" lockdown.

I say keep the restrictions in place."

I think that’s sensible for now. The Lambda variant is kicking off just now and it’s as easily spread as Delta but with worse effects.

There’s a football Delta surge which will be kicking in by 19th.

There’s a a LOT of COVID in schools just now. That’s usually a good indicator.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

Maybe they have seen today’s figures from the Netherlands which showed when they opened up fully in the last 10 days, the infection rate shot up by 500%

But…. You know…. Data not dates blah blah….

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By *lym4realCouple over a year ago

plymouth

Yep 100% agree the scientists want to keep us locked up so they can do weird and wonderful experiements on us ...but Scientists are normally about 90% right about stuff they bang on about it might take years for them to be proven right and some prime examples like smoking and drinking and our diet and of course the whole global warming hoax they carried on about ( apart from the mere fact that they admit they got it wrong ..it's sppeding up faster than they even thought) or even the air we breathe or the sea or the water we drink they got all that wrong ?? and seems most are more than happy to "Except" science when it suits them ?? and bit like ..i don't do politics gang ?? as one of my old teachers told us ..You might not take a interest in politics ..but politics/politicians take a interest in you bit like science/scientists really xxx

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By *lym4realCouple over a year ago

plymouth

And " Scientists" are far more important than any of the complete shower we have in charge they just don't go around waving their manhood around and proclaiming they are as they just are ...more important they just sit around waiting for the collective penny to drop but as that bloke told us we'd all had enough of experts but sadly for him the experts have been proven right ..once again ..

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"The reality is, there is no correct decision here.

Whatever happens regarding restrictions or no restrictions, covid will impact us as country, directly or indirectly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time. "

Mid September. Causing a vote of no confidence in the Conservative government. Labour and Starmer are elected. Our strategy of dealing with this similar to Australia and NZ.

Different side of same coin.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

Mid September. Causing a vote of no confidence in the Conservative government. Labour and Starmer are elected. Our strategy of dealing with this similar to Australia and NZ.

Different side of same coin. "

Unfortunately not a hope in hell of any action being taken to get rid of the current government. Even if we had fifty percent of the population dead with the virus, Johnson would manage to blame it on europe, corbyn, poor people... Liz Truss would throw in some casual transphobia... Patel would say the refugees done it... Javid would say that the NHS clearly needed to be sold and made into a profit making concern... The CMO would agree with them because if he didn't he would be systematically replaced until they found one that would.

And the remainder of the population would agree that yes all the dead people was awful, but it would be far worse if labour something something something...

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

Two-thirds of the adult population fully vaccinated.

90% of England’s adults have Covid antibodies.

Covid patients occupying just 1.2% of NHS hospital beds.

Average length of stays in hospital due to Covid are continuing to shorten.

Current ICU admissions due to Covid are extremely low.

We are in a good position to continue the push towards normalising our society

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan over a year ago

London

I am 51 and fitter than I’ve ever been in my life. I thought I was bullletproof because I look after myself, eat well and go to the gym PLUS I’m double jabbed…… Yesterday after having symptons I tested positive for Covid. Today I feel like I’ve been hit by a lorry. Lockdown can’t go on forever but why on earth are restrictions being lifted whilst the country is in the grip of a third wave? I’m glad I’ve had both jabs and I guess I could feel so much worse if I hadn’t, but you’re not totally immune with vaccination alone, so precautions and restrictions have to continue

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

Lockdown is doing far more damage than COVID ever will.

We are not in lockdown

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Lockdown is doing far more damage than COVID ever will.

We are not in lockdown"

I'm so glad you said this. I wish people would stop saying we were in lockdown, we haven't been in lockdown for months just had some restrictions in place.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"Two-thirds of the adult population fully vaccinated.

90% of England’s adults have Covid antibodies.

Covid patients occupying just 1.2% of NHS hospital beds.

Average length of stays in hospital due to Covid are continuing to shorten.

Current ICU admissions due to Covid are extremely low.

We are in a good position to continue the push towards normalising our society

One third of the adult population unvaccinated or not completely vaccinated. All of the teenage and child population open to infection.

7 million or so adults with no covid antibodies from any source.

Hospital beds occupied by Covid patients doubling every 10 days or so, in just 3 doubles Covid will account for 10% of all patients in hospitals, in 5 doubles will be 40% of all patients.

In 30 days when hospitals start to be overwhelmed with Covid patients, we can expect that anything other than the most emergency cases will be turned away.

We are in no position to be reducing public health precautions, as the doubling process is already locked in for at least the next two steps even if we went into a 100% strict emergency state instantly!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am 51 and fitter than I’ve ever been in my life. I thought I was bullletproof because I look after myself, eat well and go to the gym PLUS I’m double jabbed…… Yesterday after having symptons I tested positive for Covid. Today I feel like I’ve been hit by a lorry. Lockdown can’t go on forever but why on earth are restrictions being lifted whilst the country is in the grip of a third wave? I’m glad I’ve had both jabs and I guess I could feel so much worse if I hadn’t, but you’re not totally immune with vaccination alone, so precautions and restrictions have to continue "

But here you are replying to messages. I am guessing that it can't be that bad or you wouldn't be replying.

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By *pellboundCouple over a year ago

Derby and North Wales

A man in his 40s has more chance being killed riding his bike than dying from COVID

We aren’t stopping people riding bikes

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"The Government were given many different scenarios and models based on when lockdown ends.

They ONLY looked at the earliest date (19th July) and went from there. They never considered the other dates!

The government is following dates rather than science."

Because alot of the modelling were wrong..They were extreme worse case scenarios..

I read somewhere that the modelling that led the government to extend June 21st to July 19th was wrong..

Tell me why we should affect the life of over 50 million people and base it on flawed modelling

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation "

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"Two-thirds of the adult population fully vaccinated.

90% of England’s adults have Covid antibodies.

Covid patients occupying just 1.2% of NHS hospital beds.

Average length of stays in hospital due to Covid are continuing to shorten.

Current ICU admissions due to Covid are extremely low.

We are in a good position to continue the push towards normalising our society

One third of the adult population unvaccinated or not completely vaccinated. All of the teenage and child population open to infection.

7 million or so adults with no covid antibodies from any source.

Hospital beds occupied by Covid patients doubling every 10 days or so, in just 3 doubles Covid will account for 10% of all patients in hospitals, in 5 doubles will be 40% of all patients.

In 30 days when hospitals start to be overwhelmed with Covid patients, we can expect that anything other than the most emergency cases will be turned away.

Post your source. The hospitalisation is doubling doesn't mean that hospital beds occupied by covid patient are doubling..

And healthy children dont count as much because in most cases, alot of them experience flu like symptoms..

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"Two-thirds of the adult population fully vaccinated.

90% of England’s adults have Covid antibodies.

Covid patients occupying just 1.2% of NHS hospital beds.

Average length of stays in hospital due to Covid are continuing to shorten.

Current ICU admissions due to Covid are extremely low.

We are in a good position to continue the push towards normalising our society

I think alot of people need to look at your comment..

"Average length of stays in hospital due to covid is shorter"

We are in a good position to move ahead with the lockdown we just need to take precautions like masks

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation "

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan over a year ago

London

But here you are replying to messages. I am guessing that it can't be that bad or you wouldn't be replying."

I’ve had real flu (as oppose to a bad cold) only about twice in my life. Currently I feel about the same. My whole body is now aching and I’m burning up although weirdly when I take my temp it’s normal ?!?!? But I’m guessing if I wasn’t double jabbed it could be much much worse

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to"

It isn't compulsory

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A man in his 40s has more chance being killed riding his bike than dying from COVID

We aren’t stopping people riding bikes"

You dont have to die from covid to be affected by it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

You also have to factor in the huge amount of publicity aimed at this age group telling them they will have mental health issues, I feel this has contributed to the increase in numbers, yeah folk will be affected but we're at risk of medicalising a normal reaction to an abnormal set of circumstances.... Lot of kids are thinking there's something wrong with them because they aren't suffering mental health problems.

Its a double edged sword.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory"

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?"

Yes

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes "

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for"

For now....

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Either way, at the moment the man up there doesn't have to get it unless he is one of those people

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

For now...."

Do you mean this ? "It added that anyone coming into care homes to do other work - for instance tradespeople, hairdressers and beauticians - would also have to follow the regulations."

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By *ynecplCouple over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Because scentists will look at the science, the economists will look at the economy and the psychologists will look at humans. The government get all there views and hopefully make a well informed decision.

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By *ohnj21Man over a year ago

Leeds

"Because scentists will look at the science, the economists will look at the economy and the psychologists will look at humans. The government get all there views and hopefully make a well informed decision."

Yes... Hopefully.. Well answer is, they don't make good decisions there's no hopefully in it

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

But are they ‘real’ scientists, or do they just have an NVQ in science ? There’s a difference , anyone can go to uni and claim

To be a scientist I have an MSc so I’m probably smarter than most of them. I say crack on with July 19 celebrations

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

For now....

Do you mean this ? "It added that anyone coming into care homes to do other work - for instance tradespeople, hairdressers and beauticians - would also have to follow the regulations.""

referred to as person ("B") in regulation 5 of the Statutory Instrument, passed last night in the Commons after only 90 minutes of debate by 23 MPs...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don’t think it should be cancelled. Although everything should be open with mild restrictions and full mask wearing. There is never going to be a perfect time to open back up. The emphasis has now to go into re opening the economy and begin to look at and care for people dealing with cancer and other serious illness/diagnosis.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

For now....

Do you mean this ? "It added that anyone coming into care homes to do other work - for instance tradespeople, hairdressers and beauticians - would also have to follow the regulations."

referred to as person ("B") in regulation 5 of the Statutory Instrument, passed last night in the Commons after only 90 minutes of debate by 23 MPs..."

So is it ALL hairdressers/ builders etc or people who do their business in care homes?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

For now....

Do you mean this ? "It added that anyone coming into care homes to do other work - for instance tradespeople, hairdressers and beauticians - would also have to follow the regulations."

referred to as person ("B") in regulation 5 of the Statutory Instrument, passed last night in the Commons after only 90 minutes of debate by 23 MPs...

So is it ALL hairdressers/ builders etc or people who do their business in care homes?"

Ahhh, ok... I see now

My bad

Please correct to read... any tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner etc.. who may be required to undertake work in a care setting.

Better?

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"Two-thirds of the adult population fully vaccinated.

90% of England’s adults have Covid antibodies.

Covid patients occupying just 1.2% of NHS hospital beds.

Average length of stays in hospital due to Covid are continuing to shorten.

Current ICU admissions due to Covid are extremely low.

We are in a good position to continue the push towards normalising our society

One third of the adult population unvaccinated or not completely vaccinated. All of the teenage and child population open to infection.

7 million or so adults with no covid antibodies from any source.

Hospital beds occupied by Covid patients doubling every 10 days or so, in just 3 doubles Covid will account for 10% of all patients in hospitals, in 5 doubles will be 40% of all patients.

In 30 days when hospitals start to be overwhelmed with Covid patients, we can expect that anything other than the most emergency cases will be turned away.

Post your source. The hospitalisation is doubling doesn't mean that hospital beds occupied by covid patient are doubling..

And healthy children dont count as much because in most cases, alot of them experience flu like symptoms..

Lets say that last week 100 people turned up at a hospital with covid, 90 were treated and released, but 10 had to be put in a bed (no idea if this is the actual correct proportions, but try to follow anyway...).

Now if next week 200 people with covid, from the same population group, turn up at the same hospital, how many are going to be treated and released? How many are going to end up occupying hospital beds?

Also are we really saying that children don't count as much because only some of them get serious illness? Kids have underlying conditions as well, there are plenty of kids with diabetes, heart conditions, thyroid problems... The government has no intention of sourcing vaccines for these kids in any hurry, and as we all know the real benefit of vaccines only comes when sufficient have been vaccinated to bring the R below 1 so that outbreaks self extinguish instead of exploding exponentially. Are we going to tell all vulnerable kids that they have to live in plastic bubbles for the rest of their lives, because the virus is totally endemic in all the children and adults around them?

Anyone remember the effect on our society of thalidomide? Over 60 years ago and still affects national consciousness. There were fewer than 2000 thalidomide kids in the UK. There are currently more than 36,000 children just with diabetes in the UK, every one of them in severe danger of complications if infected with covid. Still, I suppose it doesn't matter if we just give up even attempting to control this epidemic, anyone who isn't physically perfect can just be thrown on the scrapheap...

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By *ungry CatCouple over a year ago

Belfast

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method "

Everyone also seem to have forgotten how many elderly people died from loneliness while their children and grandchildren were so carefully "shielding" them from covid

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

For now....

Do you mean this ? "It added that anyone coming into care homes to do other work - for instance tradespeople, hairdressers and beauticians - would also have to follow the regulations."

referred to as person ("B") in regulation 5 of the Statutory Instrument, passed last night in the Commons after only 90 minutes of debate by 23 MPs...

So is it ALL hairdressers/ builders etc or people who do their business in care homes?

Ahhh, ok... I see now

My bad

Please correct to read... any tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner etc.. who may be required to undertake work in a care setting.

Better?

Yes thanks

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By *ack Genuine BullMan over a year ago

Loughborough

The so called "scientists" have had the Worlds biggest wet dream since the start of the pandemic!

They have had money and resources thrown at them, new equipment, extra staff, and status, power and importance.

And now they are faced with a return to obscurity and anonymity.

Of course they want us to continue with Covid!

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By *ittleAcornMan over a year ago

visiting the beach

"A man in his 40s has more chance being killed riding his bike than dying from COVID

We aren’t stopping people riding bikes

Because in the bike situation, the persons friends, family, work colleagues etc. are not also at risk.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Lockdown is doing far more damage than COVID ever will.

Once we actually get accurate figures for people in hospital for covid (not with) I'm confident that well realise covid is a not a problem anymore."

We're hardly in lockdown and haven't been for some time. It's argued that fuller, effective lockdowns would have been shorter and been better at preventing the damage we now have.

The reason that countries around the world still have some state control and restrictions of total public freedom, is that this can work for the greater good and the public don't need to each evaluate complex situations to create millions of different responses. We can all be restricted by the same alcohol driving limits, etc.

Polls have shown most of the public to want masks to continue to be worn - despite us all also finding them a little hassle. Quitters give up easily, however close they are to their goals. Most people find more relief and satisfaction in doing things well and not giving up.

The health service isn't on a strong foundation at present. Not just covid has to be dealt with, so it's better if we can ease off the pressure on it, by limiting infection levels.

Small measures to mitigate the virus and its impact, are next to no trouble for those of us who can bare that load.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"The so called "scientists" have had the Worlds biggest wet dream since the start of the pandemic!

They have had money and resources thrown at them, new equipment, extra staff, and status, power and importance.

And now they are faced with a return to obscurity and anonymity.

Of course they want us to continue with Covid!

I can assure you that that's BS

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By *abs..Woman over a year ago

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method

But op lots of the people currently getting sick from covid and having bad reactions are the one's in the younger group's.

You seem to have changed your point tho.

You said that scientists are only doing it to look more important,that's very different from what you have just said.

Well my personal opinion is generally further lockdown isn't good for anyone

But also I stand by what I said, the scientists just want to look important.. They're not dumb...if we don't get out of lockdown in the summer then we most likely will be in lockdown till next year..

People will start to wonder why tell us to get vaccinated, when 60% of all adults and over 50% of the entire population are fully vaccinated and you're still insisting on extended the lockdown "

Why would scientists want us to stay in lockdown until next year? What would be their gain?

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By *abs..Woman over a year ago

"A man in his 40s has more chance being killed riding his bike than dying from COVID

We aren’t stopping people riding bikes"

But you can’t catch it from someone else can you? You can’t spread it either.

Dying of covid is not the only issue here. People should look at the rising number of people with long covid and acute covid and the impact that is going to have in many ways.

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By *abs..Woman over a year ago

"But are they ‘real’ scientists, or do they just have an NVQ in science ? There’s a difference , anyone can go to uni and claim

To be a scientist I have an MSc so I’m probably smarter than most of them. I say crack on with July 19 celebrations "

Celebrations? Use your common sense, they say. We’re doomed

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

For now....

Do you mean this ? "It added that anyone coming into care homes to do other work - for instance tradespeople, hairdressers and beauticians - would also have to follow the regulations."

referred to as person ("B") in regulation 5 of the Statutory Instrument, passed last night in the Commons after only 90 minutes of debate by 23 MPs..."

It wasn't passed by 23 MP's, you're purposely misleading people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s a good job there’s not a world war on the horizon, all these snowflakes who can’t deal with wearing masks and having the odd restriction wouldn’t cope.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"It’s a good job there’s not a world war on the horizon, all these snowflakes who can’t deal with wearing masks and having the odd restriction wouldn’t cope."

How would modern society deal with rationing and lights out after a certain time and a cerfew?

I think we would lose to the attacking force very quickly.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman over a year ago

ashford

"It’s a good job there’s not a world war on the horizon, all these snowflakes who can’t deal with wearing masks and having the odd restriction wouldn’t cope."
ohh dear not the snowflake comment!

facepalm facepalm!

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

I expect the exact same thing will be said by Boris on TV in a few weeks time.

The lockdown is causing more harm than good.. most of the over 50s and clinically vulnerable have been fully vaccinated.

The lockdown has caused an increase in mental health issues among the under 18s (the leaders of tomorrow)

I am against further lockdown because jt isn't a long term self sustaining method

Everyone also seem to have forgotten how many elderly people died from loneliness while their children and grandchildren were so carefully "shielding" them from covid

Some people seem to have forgotten how many elderly people died of/with covid because their children or grandchildren caught it from people that refused to follow simple health instructions, then inadvertently passed it on to their parents or grandparents.

The result of allowing covid to explode through the entire population will be to force most elderly people to lock themselves down permanently or risk dying from the virus. And how many of those elderly are then going to suffer from loneliness when it is NEVER safe for them to see their children or grandchildren?

[Don't say it's up to the elderly to get vaccinated, I've currently got an elderly friend of the family fully vaxed, recently went out to a restaurant for first time in 18 months having been reassured that it was safe by the government relaxation of rules, now in hospital very seriously ill. The only safety is when unified responsible action by all of society brings down and keeps down the R to below 1, so that the case numbers go down to being negligable and any new outbreaks naturally self extinguish. Vulnerable people will only stop catching covid when there is no-one around them who is infected.]

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

For now....

Do you mean this ? "It added that anyone coming into care homes to do other work - for instance tradespeople, hairdressers and beauticians - would also have to follow the regulations."

referred to as person ("B") in regulation 5 of the Statutory Instrument, passed last night in the Commons after only 90 minutes of debate by 23 MPs...

It wasn't passed by 23 MP's, you're purposely misleading people."

check what I actually said please...

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

Not geart for kids but worse if they lose a family member dies

Have u had your jabs. Can u help is the earth flat

leave it out now John your getting a bit stalky, what’s it got to do with you my jab situation

Interested if u anti vax

If you hadn't the jab I think you need to

It isn't compulsory

Not unless they are a care worker or a tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner...

Really?

Yes

Blimey, I knew they were talking about care workers but not the rest

However, that is still a lot of people who it isn't compulsory for

For now....

Do you mean this ? "It added that anyone coming into care homes to do other work - for instance tradespeople, hairdressers and beauticians - would also have to follow the regulations."

referred to as person ("B") in regulation 5 of the Statutory Instrument, passed last night in the Commons after only 90 minutes of debate by 23 MPs...

So is it ALL hairdressers/ builders etc or people who do their business in care homes?

Ahhh, ok... I see now

My bad

Please correct to read... any tradesperson, hairdresser, delivery driver, cleaner etc.. who may be required to undertake work in a care setting.

Better?

Yes thanks"

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By *isexycouple5Couple over a year ago

Looe

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

10000%

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By *mmixtapeCouple over a year ago

middle earth

The people being effected by the virus right now are young people. Yes lockdown is incredibly bad for our mental health, but young people are getting the delta variant like someone is handing out skittles. Most of us still aren't vaccinated and we don't know the effects of long covid.

Personally I think everyone with 2 vaccines should really reassess their standpoints as most are acting selfishly. You cared when you were in danger and now you're not youre happy to just disregard the rest of society.

They want to extend it to protect young people, and as a young person who is seeing all my friends get it because we do lots of hospitality, retail, and customer facing jobs without having access to protection against the virus I have to agree.

Just because the pandemic is over for you, doesn't mean it's over. Its not over. We are still getting sick. We are still being impacted. You just don't care

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"It’s a good job there’s not a world war on the horizon, all these snowflakes who can’t deal with wearing masks and having the odd restriction wouldn’t cope."

How would modern society deal with rationing and lights out after a certain time and a cerfew?

I think we would lose to the attacking force very quickly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

These are 2 facts.

87% of the UKs adult polulation have had either 1 or both jabs.

Yesterday had the highest positive covid results in 6 months.

Hmmmmm interesting.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"These are 2 facts.

87% of the UKs adult polulation have had either 1 or both jabs.

Yesterday had the highest positive covid results in 6 months.

Hmmmmm interesting."

Coincides with the recent relaxation of restrictions,re opening of pub's and restaurants, recent sports test events and the twats next door to me who have never followed any medical guidance.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But those now getting COVID-19 are barely affected. Of the patients in hospital, allegedly COVID-19 patients make up less than 2%.

Hardly a reason to keep our lives on hold.

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"I don’t think it should be cancelled. Although everything should be open with mild restrictions and full mask wearing. There is never going to be a perfect time to open back up. The emphasis has now to go into re opening the economy and begin to look at and care for people dealing with cancer and other serious illness/diagnosis."

I agree with you

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"But those now getting COVID-19 are barely affected. Of the patients in hospital, allegedly COVID-19 patients make up less than 2%.

Hardly a reason to keep our lives on hold."

Exactly..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Covid has gone crazy in my area I know of a cleaning company and 2 restaurants that have closed due to staff isolating. Numerous schools have closed years and back to online lessons and I know of quite a few people who are isolating at the moment.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

"A man in his 40s has more chance being killed riding his bike than dying from COVID

We aren’t stopping people riding bikes"

Incorrect only about 2700 cyclists between 25 and 59 were killed or seriously injured in a year. Only have deaths for covid not serious injuries but 15648 25 to 64 year olds have died of covid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We will all enjoy a few weeks of no rules before we go into another full lockdown, the science don’t lie , cases have rocketed, over 50 people died yesterday, we will have even higher rates of deaths and cases in a few weeks time , let’s hope you won’t be going to a love one’s funeral soon , COVID is real and still out there

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan over a year ago

London

"But those now getting COVID-19 are barely affected. Of the patients in hospital, allegedly COVID-19 patients make up less than 2%.

Hardly a reason to keep our lives on hold.

Exactly.."

Barely affected? 50 people died yesterday and I think 49 today…..tell the families of those people that

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"The Government were given many different scenarios and models based on when lockdown ends.

They ONLY looked at the earliest date (19th July) and went from there. They never considered the other dates!

The government is following dates rather than science."

Were you at the sage meeting ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

They are pushing an agenda.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We will all enjoy a few weeks of no rules before we go into another full lockdown, the science don’t lie , cases have rocketed, over 50 people died yesterday, we will have even higher rates of deaths and cases in a few weeks time , let’s hope you won’t be going to a love one’s funeral soon , COVID is real and still out there "

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong"

I'm an all powerful deity - prove me wrong. Or, perhaps you should look up burden of proof.

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By *ittleAcornMan over a year ago

visiting the beach

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

When someone makes an outrageously stupid claim, the onus is really on them to provide the evidence.

Otherwise it's just ignored along with all the other bollocks posted across these forums.

Personally I'll go with the ONS numbers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Won't be rushing out in a hurry.

Boris had abdicated responsibility to the public so when it all goes wrong he can turn round and try and blame everyone else. He is causing devision and animosity again.

Positive Tests are up by 27.4% on last week 52,928 cases more.

Hospitalisations are up 53.2% on last week 1,318 more

Deaths are up by 42.2% on last week 68 more.

The latter might seem low but it takes a few weeks for deaths to increase after cases rise.

We still have restrictions in place and are seeing huge rises, it will surge even higher from July 19th onwards.

Figures from the Government's own website.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just watch the news. Hospitals are getting full , one just been on the bbc news is full of Covid , nearly all are unvaccinated under 30s keep kidding yourself it is all made up rubbish and agenda, FOR WHAT , what has the world gained from all of this ? It’s real and until you see someone you know die a painful death then you will still believe the bullshit on Facebook

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And another thing whist the hospitals are getting full with Covid , your mother won’t get her cancer treatment your dad won’t get he’s operation, your grandparents won’t get the treatment they need ,and people still won’t wear a mask or social distance ? Shame on you all

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan over a year ago

nearby

2279 new cases 14th May, 7,793 14th June (353% increase)

42,327 new cases 14th July (1930% increase over 60 days).

Hospitalisations also up

Freedom day, no masks, good weather, full beaches, crowded weekends in the pubs. can only be headed for further increases in the weeks ahead.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

450 people die of cancer every day.

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"Just watch the news. Hospitals are getting full , one just been on the bbc news is full of Covid , nearly all are unvaccinated under 30s keep kidding yourself it is all made up rubbish and agenda, FOR WHAT , what has the world gained from all of this ? It’s real and until you see someone you know die a painful death then you will still believe the bullshit on Facebook "

The news is what the government use to get the public scared. Its just that particular hospital, it isn't like that everywhere..

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By *r-Oreo OP Man over a year ago

telford

"And another thing whist the hospitals are getting full with Covid , your mother won’t get her cancer treatment your dad won’t get he’s operation, your grandparents won’t get the treatment they need ,and people still won’t wear a mask or social distance ? Shame on you all "

I support wearing masks..what's your suggestion then? More restrictions?

They don't work.. they even cause more harm than good, just make masks a normality in ALL public settings and keep the Test and Trace facility

Then open everything up. Use incentives to get people to take the vaccine.

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By *Marvel-Man over a year ago

In The Gym

I support wearing masks..what's your suggestion then? More restrictions?

They don't work.. they even cause more harm than good, just make masks a normality in ALL public settings and keep the Test and Trace facility

Then open everything up. Use incentives to get people to take the vaccine. "

One of the regions in Pakistan had a great incentive to encourage people to have the vaccine. They told the mobile phone operators to turn peoples phones off if they didn't get vaccinated.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This thread should be required reading for anybody who studies how conspiracy theories come about.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Also... what happens if they cancel July 19 or push it back? Will July 20 become July 19? Or will August become July? Will we have to cancel calendars? Or rewrite them entirely? Will we need to invent a whole new month? Umbuggember? Where does it end? When the lizard people march in and take over??!!

(If the lizard people are reading this, I welcome our green-sclaed overlords with joy!)

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By *JB1954Man over a year ago

Reading

Ok perhaps having skipped thru thread . People in this country are asked to now use “ common sense “

This sorry I have to say . Will not work . My opinion is some people have none. So many look at online comments ( covid a fake etc) . Vaccination bad side effects. Yet if just looking at deaths per year with taking paracetamol or the pill for contraception does not have risks People have not ever been bothered . It is only if it effects them socialising or going on holiday etc ?

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By *ani25Man over a year ago

Birmingham

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

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By *entlemanrogueMan over a year ago

Motherwell

Bojo and the Cons.

we follow the science.

Bojo and the cons.

july 19 is freedom day use common sense. 1000 scientists cry NO!!

and still these clowns get voted in!

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By *tsallfunangames!!Woman over a year ago

back of beyond

As much as I hate being restricted to doing anything, now the government are going to use our kids as guinea pigs, all under 18s will an are not going to be vaccinated, so they will be the ones now catching it, it's disgusting, the government see fit to use the future of our country as guinea pigs

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By *arry247Couple over a year ago

Wakefield

In our area deaths where covid was involved is up 100% from last week, however before the lockdown merchants get excited the figure last week was one person, this week it is two people.

Figures can give a false impression.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

"In our area deaths where covid was involved is up 100% from last week, however before the lockdown merchants get excited the figure last week was one person, this week it is two people.

Figures can give a false impression.

The beeb has a fairly balanced article regarding the lifting of lockdown.

Its well worth reading all the way to the end as it gives both the positive and negative sides to this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57751056

It also shows that even at its worst the models predict it will not be as bad as flu. However, once we are over the worst then we should see this start to level out.

Clearly the worst case scenario will be reduced if more people continue to be vaccinated.

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By *ornLordMan over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"This thread should be required reading for anybody who studies how conspiracy theories come about.

This thread should be required reading for anyone who thinks that stupidity is not rife in 2021 "freedom"-loving UK.

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By *eedslad69Man over a year ago

leeds

But here you are replying to messages. I am guessing that it can't be that bad or you wouldn't be replying.

Everyone assumes that they would have been much worse had they not have been double jabbed. Have you ever thought that it's the double jabs that have made you ill ?. Without the jabs you would have still been healthy.

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By *rufinWoman over a year ago

notts

"As much as I hate being restricted to doing anything, now the government are going to use our kids as guinea pigs, all under 18s will an are not going to be vaccinated, so they will be the ones now catching it, it's disgusting, the government see fit to use the future of our country as guinea pigs

We do that anyway with the flu vaccine, we give them flu so they don't pass it on to the elderly willy nilly"

the flu vaccine doesn't carry any danger for those having it - side effects are minor. That's the ossue with the covid vaccine - there is higher risk from the vaccine than the virus for the young (and that includes over 18s, but at least that's their choice to make)

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

Regardless what we do the virus is going to be around for a long time. If we all catch it this year or spread over the next 5 it will have an equal number of opportunities to mutate. How and for long would you put life on hold to prevent all transmission? 2/3 freshly vaccinated, we are as protected as we can ever get. All that matters now is, as it was at the beginning, is managing transmission to levels that avoid totally over running the NHS

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

But here you are replying to messages. I am guessing that it can't be that bad or you wouldn't be replying.

No because I trust those who know and understand immunology far better than you my friend.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Sweden never locked down. Nor did a number of other countries. Their records are better than ours.

A conundrum which raises a number of issues

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sweden never locked down. Nor did a number of other countries. Their records are better than ours.

A conundrum which raises a number of issues"

Sweden was an absolute disaster. Their king and PM have gone on record saying they'd failed. Although one thing you lot always miss out when discussing Sweden is the high level of public health, sick leave provision, and population density. Wonder why.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Sweden never locked down. Nor did a number of other countries. Their records are better than ours.

A conundrum which raises a number of issues

The death rate in Sweden is lower than that in the UK.

They are a large country with a small population: their population, however, is concentrated in urban so both coutries' population densities are very similar.

Yet Sweden...and other non-lockdown countries... have had a lower death rate while avoiding economic ruin

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Sweden never locked down. Nor did a number of other countries. Their records are better than ours.

A conundrum which raises a number of issues

The death rate in Sweden is lower than that in the UK.

They are a large country with a small population: their population, however, is concentrated in urban so both coutries' population densities are very similar.

Yet Sweden...and other non-lockdown countries... have had a lower death rate while avoiding economic ruin"

Comparing Sweden with the UK is far from the best, compare Sweden with their neighbours Norway and Denmark..

Similar geographic, population spread etc..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not against the restrictions being lifted, but it is interesting to me that the Delta variant seems to be impacting young people (like myself) which haven't been fully vaccinated yet. But yk, most young people don't vote so can see why no one gives a shit about us XD

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The death rate in Sweden is lower than that in the UK.

They are a large country with a small population: their population, however, is concentrated in urban so both coutries' population densities are very similar.

Yet Sweden...and other non-lockdown countries... have had a lower death rate while avoiding economic ruin"

You might want to look up the population densities, champ. Sweden = 25/sqKM. UK= 280ish. Feel free to compare Stockholm to London too while you're looking stuff up.

Also doesn't take into consideration the high welfare in Sweden (which I absolutely agree with).

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

So here's a thing... Double jabbed... Masked up... Barely in contact with anyone... And tested positive. Feel like shit. Fingers crossed its just for a few days. Point for me is... Its simply not possible to operate with 100000 people and their close contacts isolating for 10 days each and every day. It's madness. (or whatever the number is now)

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"So here's a thing... Double jabbed... Masked up... Barely in contact with anyone... And tested positive. Feel like shit. Fingers crossed its just for a few days. Point for me is... Its simply not possible to operate with 100000 people and their close contacts isolating for 10 days each and every day. It's madness. (or whatever the number is now) "

Hope you feel better soon..

I think they're looking to bin isolation as a tool and go with daily testing for those in close contact with people who then become positive..

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/acute-covid-spreading-young-people-24539633

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/acute-covid-spreading-young-people-24539633"

It'll be another case of the government acting too slowly..as they have throughout this pandemic. If a new variant such as Delta rips through the unvaccinated (mostly young) population by the time they decide to do anything about it, it'll be too late

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

After the abuse some people, myself included, got for saying we would vaccinate our children, I don't think it's the government doing it, it's the kids parents.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My fear as well. Hope you feel better soon.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

After the abuse some people, myself included, got for saying we would vaccinate our children, I don't think it's the government doing it, it's the kids parents. "

Abuse should be reported

If however they discussed the subject that is allowed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

"
long covid can effect anyone young or old regardless of how serious they had covid in the first place go speak to your gp and ask him how many of his patients alone have it

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Sweden never locked down. Nor did a number of other countries. Their records are better than ours.

A conundrum which raises a number of issues

The death rate in Sweden is lower than that in the UK.

They are a large country with a small population: their population, however, is concentrated in urban so both coutries' population densities are very similar.

Yet Sweden...and other non-lockdown countries... have had a lower death rate while avoiding economic ruin

Comparing Sweden with the UK is far from the best, compare Sweden with their neighbours Norway and Denmark..

Similar geographic, population spread etc.."

Why not compare Sweden to other similar countries? Why only compare them to countries that have done better?

Convenient for your argument!

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

The death rate in Sweden is lower than that in the UK.

They are a large country with a small population: their population, however, is concentrated in urban so both coutries' population densities are very similar.

Yet Sweden...and other non-lockdown countries... have had a lower death rate while avoiding economic ruin

You might want to look up the population densities, champ. Sweden = 25/sqKM. UK= 280ish. Feel free to compare Stockholm to London too while you're looking stuff up.

Also doesn't take into consideration the high welfare in Sweden (which I absolutely agree with).

No. Sweden's population is urban. The fact they have huge, empty spaces has no bearing.

The urban areas where most Swedes live have very similar population densities as the UK.

They haven't locked down. Yet their death rate is lower than many lockdown countries.

Plus they haven't thrown countless numbers on the dole.

A small number of other countries have followed the same approach

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No. Sweden's population is urban. The fact they have huge, empty spaces has no bearing.

The urban areas where most Swedes live have very similar population densities as the UK.

They haven't locked down. Yet their death rate is lower than many lockdown countries.

Plus they haven't thrown countless numbers on the dole.

A small number of other countries have followed the same approach"

You haven't looked up any of the population density stats, not surprising. Also, why don't you compare Sweden to their neighbours?

You also seem to think Sweden is some sort of libertarian utopia. You might be slightly disappointed should you, you know, actually do some reading outside Facebook or YouTube. Muppet.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

After the abuse some people, myself included, got for saying we would vaccinate our children, I don't think it's the government doing it, it's the kids parents.

Abuse should be reported

If however they discussed the subject that is allowed"

I don't mean today, in general, there has been abuse to people who have said they will vaccinate their children.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

No. Sweden's population is urban. The fact they have huge, empty spaces has no bearing.

The urban areas where most Swedes live have very similar population densities as the UK.

They haven't locked down. Yet their death rate is lower than many lockdown countries.

Plus they haven't thrown countless numbers on the dole.

A small number of other countries have followed the same approach

You haven't looked up any of the population density stats, not surprising. Also, why don't you compare Sweden to their neighbours?

You also seem to think Sweden is some sort of libertarian utopia. You might be slightly disappointed should you, you know, actually do some reading outside Facebook or YouTube. Muppet. "

I have seen the density stats for Sweden and the UK.

What you are missing is that Sweden has huge, empty spaces. The population of the urban areas, where most Swedes live, is very similar to the UK

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

Good luck and a speedy recovery. We can’t eradicate it so it’s now almost inevitable almost all of us will catch it at some point and many of us will catch it many times.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What you are missing is that Sweden has huge, empty spaces. The population of the urban areas, where most Swedes live, is very similar to the UK"

And what you are missing is that the response to a pandemic was largely a disaster compared to their neighbours. To the point where the king went on TV and had to apologise for failing.

As I said previously, it's not a libertarian paradise. They had rules that people respected. They have an excellent public health care system. They have excellent welfare system. Massive taxes in order to pay for it all too. Adopting their approach here would've been a massacre.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

What you are missing is that Sweden has huge, empty spaces. The population of the urban areas, where most Swedes live, is very similar to the UK

And what you are missing is that the response to a pandemic was largely a disaster compared to their neighbours. To the point where the king went on TV and had to apologise for failing.

Far from a disaster compared to the rest of the world.

Why don't you want a wider comparison?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No. Sweden's population is urban. The fact they have huge, empty spaces has no bearing.

The urban areas where most Swedes live have very similar population densities as the UK.

They haven't locked down. Yet their death rate is lower than many lockdown countries.

Plus they haven't thrown countless numbers on the dole.

A small number of other countries have followed the same approach

You haven't looked up any of the population density stats, not surprising. Also, why don't you compare Sweden to their neighbours?

You also seem to think Sweden is some sort of libertarian utopia. You might be slightly disappointed should you, you know, actually do some reading outside Facebook or YouTube. Muppet. "

Sweden is a country of immigration the other Nordic countries are countries of emigration.

The majority of Swedish immigration is from the bame community. Sweden has a larger proportion of their over 70s in care compared to their Nordic neighbours. The bame community and care home residents in both Sweden and U.K. have been particularly badly impacted by Covid.

As with everything Covid, trying to make sweeping comparisons between countries is pointless.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Far from a disaster compared to the rest of the world.

Why don't you want a wider comparison?"

Why don't you want to compare Sweden with their immediate neighbours? How about comparing Sweden with Australia?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Sweden never locked down. Nor did a number of other countries. Their records are better than ours.

A conundrum which raises a number of issues

The death rate in Sweden is lower than that in the UK.

They are a large country with a small population: their population, however, is concentrated in urban so both coutries' population densities are very similar.

Yet Sweden...and other non-lockdown countries... have had a lower death rate while avoiding economic ruin

Comparing Sweden with the UK is far from the best, compare Sweden with their neighbours Norway and Denmark..

Similar geographic, population spread etc..

Why not compare Sweden to other similar countries? Why only compare them to countries that have done better?

Convenient for your argument!"

Ooh irony..

It's an inaccurate comparison and it's been trotted out multiple times which makes it still a very poor one..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

I'm an all powerful deity - prove me wrong. Or, perhaps you should look up burden of proof. "

Burden of proof? More like manipulation of statistics to keep you scared.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Sweden never locked down. Nor did a number of other countries. Their records are better than ours.

A conundrum which raises a number of issues

The death rate in Sweden is lower than that in the UK.

They are a large country with a small population: their population, however, is concentrated in urban so both coutries' population densities are very similar.

Yet Sweden...and other non-lockdown countries... have had a lower death rate while avoiding economic ruin

Comparing Sweden with the UK is far from the best, compare Sweden with their neighbours Norway and Denmark..

Similar geographic, population spread etc..

Why not compare Sweden to other similar countries? Why only compare them to countries that have done better?

Convenient for your argument!

Ooh irony..

It's an inaccurate comparison and it's been trotted out multiple times which makes it still a very poor one.."

Why is it a poor comparison?

Why not compare it to other countries across the world.

An open mind and willingness to look at as many facts as possible is the basis of honest science.

Go where the facts lead

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By *tew2009Man over a year ago

wakefield

It's the 1000 pathetic scientists that want cancelling! If you want to wear a mask, wear one. If you want to social distance, do so. If you want to isolate yourself then lock your doors and windows. Meanwhile the rest of us are carrying on as normal....this bullshit has gone on for long enough.

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By *adyJayneWoman over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

That's not how virus mutation works.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

I'm an all powerful deity - prove me wrong. Or, perhaps you should look up burden of proof.

Burden of proof? More like manipulation of statistics to keep you scared. "

I suspect that, deep down, some people suspect that coronavirus scaremongering is hugely exaggerated. As a result they are frantically trying to stamp out all sceptical opinions

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

I'm an all powerful deity - prove me wrong. Or, perhaps you should look up burden of proof.

Burden of proof? More like manipulation of statistics to keep you scared.

I suspect that, deep down, some people suspect that coronavirus scaremongering is hugely exaggerated. As a result they are frantically trying to stamp out all sceptical opinions"

64 dead today, tell those victims families it’s all just scaremongering.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

I'm an all powerful deity - prove me wrong. Or, perhaps you should look up burden of proof.

Burden of proof? More like manipulation of statistics to keep you scared.

I suspect that, deep down, some people suspect that coronavirus scaremongering is hugely exaggerated. As a result they are frantically trying to stamp out all sceptical opinions

64 dead today, tell those victims families it’s all just scaremongering. "

Did they die 'with it' or 'of it'?

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

Yeah us scientists know the cure for cancer too, but we keep it secret so we look important

You do realise the vast majority of scientists want to make a difference to humanity in a positive way?

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By *astlincscoupleCouple over a year ago

Tinsel Town

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

I'm an all powerful deity - prove me wrong. Or, perhaps you should look up burden of proof.

Burden of proof? More like manipulation of statistics to keep you scared.

I suspect that, deep down, some people suspect that coronavirus scaremongering is hugely exaggerated. As a result they are frantically trying to stamp out all sceptical opinions

64 dead today, tell those victims families it’s all just scaremongering.

Did they die 'with it' or 'of it'?"

This.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

I'm an all powerful deity - prove me wrong. Or, perhaps you should look up burden of proof.

Burden of proof? More like manipulation of statistics to keep you scared.

I suspect that, deep down, some people suspect that coronavirus scaremongering is hugely exaggerated. As a result they are frantically trying to stamp out all sceptical opinions

64 dead today, tell those victims families it’s all just scaremongering.

Did they die 'with it' or 'of it'?

This."

If you follow that logic then pretty no one dies of cancer they die with it. Which of course is ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've just read online that more 1000 scientists have signed a petition saying July 19th should be pushed back..

My question is WTF is wrong with these scientists. They said Bojo should push it from June 21st and he did. Now they're asking him to push it again.

I have a feeling the scientists want this pandemic to continue just so they'd feel more important to the society.

Is this meant to be a joke, or are you serious? It is so hard to tell nowadays.

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan over a year ago

London

"It's the 1000 pathetic scientists that want cancelling! If you want to wear a mask, wear one. If you want to social distance, do so. If you want to isolate yourself then lock your doors and windows. Meanwhile the rest of us are carrying on as normal....this bullshit has gone on for long enough."

Such ignorance

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By *oldswarriorMan over a year ago

Falkirk

The stats are exaggerated, prove me wrong

I'm an all powerful deity - prove me wrong. Or, perhaps you should look up burden of proof.

Burden of proof? More like manipulation of statistics to keep you scared.

I suspect that, deep down, some people suspect that coronavirus scaremongering is hugely exaggerated. As a result they are frantically trying to stamp out all sceptical opinions

64 dead today, tell those victims families it’s all just scaremongering.

Did they die 'with it' or 'of it'?

This.

If you follow that logic then pretty no one dies of cancer they die with it. Which of course is ridiculous."

Cancer or Cancerous. So there is logic in the thier thinking.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

After the abuse some people, myself included, got for saying we would vaccinate our children, I don't think it's the government doing it, it's the kids parents.

Abuse should be reported

If however they discussed the subject that is allowed

I don't mean today, in general, there has been abuse to people who have said they will vaccinate their children. "

I assumed that so why I said abuse should be reported, meaning rather than bring it onto another thread or discuss mails

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