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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you." As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.  | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'. "Gmnt considers charging for tests. Newspaper runs story Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess. Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt' That's democracy folks | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
"It was you twisting it. You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing. | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing. "That's not like Lionel to twist something | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something "Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power! | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing. "And then I posted the article which explained everything | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something "What did I twist again? Do tell | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power! "Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit? | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
And then I posted the article which explained everything "Oh come on, you knew full well that the article did not say that lft tests are 'gonna cost you'. At least admit you twisted it for the reaction. | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?"Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment. | |||
"Once again a piece mildly criticising the oaf turns into personal attacks Some people just camt help themselves Embarassing " Personal attack? You mean a light hearted joke? You do realise e-penis power isn't a real thing? | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
And then I posted the article which explained everything
Oh come on, you knew full well that the article did not say that lft tests are 'gonna cost you'.
At least admit you twisted it for the reaction. "I twisted nothing.. if I was gonna twist something I would have just said people are going to pay without linking the article. | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
And then I posted the article which explained everything
Oh come on, you knew full well that the article did not say that lft tests are 'gonna cost you'.
At least admit you twisted it for the reaction.
I twisted nothing.. if I was gonna twist something I would have just said people are going to pay without linking the article."So linking the article then twisting what it said doesn't count as twisting it? OK..... | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?
Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment. "Right So I'm not allowed to post articles which are not even remotely critical of the gmnt? Gotcha | |||
"Once again a piece mildly criticising the oaf turns into personal attacks Some people just camt help themselves Embarassing Personal attack? You mean a light hearted joke? You do realise e-penis power isn't a real thing? " Shouldmt you make a beeping noise when you back up like that? | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?
Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment.
Right
So I'm not allowed to post articles which are not even remotely critical of the gmnt?
Gotcha"Is that what I said? No, I said don't twist what the articles say. Which is exactly what you did. Anyways, I can't be arsed with all this back and forth crap. You know what you did and why you did it.  | |||
"Once again a piece mildly criticising the oaf turns into personal attacks Some people just camt help themselves Embarassing Personal attack? You mean a light hearted joke? You do realise e-penis power isn't a real thing? Shouldmt you make a beeping noise when you back up like that?" OMG a personal attack, are you comparing me to a lorry? | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
And then I posted the article which explained everything
Oh come on, you knew full well that the article did not say that lft tests are 'gonna cost you'.
At least admit you twisted it for the reaction.
I twisted nothing.. if I was gonna twist something I would have just said people are going to pay without linking the article.
So linking the article then twisting what it said doesn't count as twisting it? OK....."So to clarify..I link an article which says the gmnt are considering asking people to pay. And because I say Paying for tests. Thats 'twisting'it? | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?
Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment.
Right
So I'm not allowed to post articles which are not even remotely critical of the gmnt?
Gotcha"When you state something that the article doesn't, then yes, that's twisting the story. There's no debate to be had in that regard. | |||
"Once again a piece mildly criticising the oaf turns into personal attacks Some people just camt help themselves Embarassing Personal attack? You mean a light hearted joke? You do realise e-penis power isn't a real thing? Shouldmt you make a beeping noise when you back up like that? OMG a personal attack, are you comparing me to a lorry? "Super lols | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?
Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment.
Right
So I'm not allowed to post articles which are not even remotely critical of the gmnt?
Gotcha
When you state something that the article doesn't, then yes, that's twisting the story.
There's no debate to be had in that regard."There is but I really camt be arsed arguing with you both. | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?
Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment.
Right
So I'm not allowed to post articles which are not even remotely critical of the gmnt?
Gotcha
When you state something that the article doesn't, then yes, that's twisting the story.
There's no debate to be had in that regard.
There is but I really camt be arsed arguing with you both.
"There really isn't. You said 'gonna cost you'. That isn't the truth as it stands and you know it. No debate. | |||
"Once again a piece mildly criticising the oaf turns into personal attacks Some people just camt help themselves Embarassing Personal attack? You mean a light hearted joke? You do realise e-penis power isn't a real thing? Shouldmt you make a beeping noise when you back up like that? OMG a personal attack, are you comparing me to a lorry?
Super lols"I am pretty funny! | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?
Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment.
Right
So I'm not allowed to post articles which are not even remotely critical of the gmnt?
Gotcha
When you state something that the article doesn't, then yes, that's twisting the story.
There's no debate to be had in that regard.
There is but I really camt be arsed arguing with you both.
There really isn't. You said 'gonna cost you'. That isn't the truth as it stands and you know it.
No debate."So you are saying we defenitely aremt going to get charged for testing? Phew That's a relief Thanks for clearing that up | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?
Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment.
Right
So I'm not allowed to post articles which are not even remotely critical of the gmnt?
Gotcha
When you state something that the article doesn't, then yes, that's twisting the story.
There's no debate to be had in that regard.
There is but I really camt be arsed arguing with you both.
There really isn't. You said 'gonna cost you'. That isn't the truth as it stands and you know it.
No debate.
So you are saying we defenitely aremt going to get charged for testing?
Phew
That's a relief
Thanks for clearing that up
"Did I say that? You made the 'statement of fact' claim, not me. | |||
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"Getting back to the original article, which suggests people *could* be charged for testing after July, we've seen this before haven't we, particularly with this specific administration. Release a "currently being discussed" consideration to the press, let them run with the story, and gauge public opinion on the outcome. Then and only then make firm policy. It's governing by populism and "likes". It's infantile, damaging, and serves no one but the most inferior-complexity suffering of narcissists. Then there is the whole consideration itself. One moment we are told that the government are doing everything to save lives, keep the transmissions low, protect people and the next minute it's "Let The Bodies Hit The Floor". Alright, that was an exaggeration. But the sentiment is the same, because unlocking society and then asking people to pay for testing will have consequences, and I'm sorry to say these will not be unintended consequences. Even an amoeba can work that out. 1. The poorest, most disadvantaged members of society will not be able to afford such testing. Especially those with larger families. 2. As a consequence, many in this group will not get tested. 3. This will increase transmission and disproportionally affect more people from this group. 4. This will lead to poorer health outcomes for this group. Right at the beginning of the vaccination campaign, people raised concerns about vaccination apartheid. This is at the other end of the scale. Testing Apartheid. It is a form of social engineering. Some would even go so far as to say "cleansing" (I deliberately do not want to invoke Godwin's Law here), but I do have to look at this consideration and ask myself... 1. Does it help or hinder people ? 2. Does it marginalise a particular group of people ? 3. Is it inclusive or exclusive ? 4. Does it have a cost of entry that excludes some people ? 5. Is the policy equitable for all, or harmful to some ? On face value, I think it's clear what the answers are. Ergo, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and squawks like a duck, then it's clearly a duck or pretty damn close enough to treat it like one. " Maybe it's a werewolf, I'm getting full moon vibes today, I've had some really weird messages. | |||
"Getting back to the original article, which suggests people *could* be charged for testing after July, we've seen this before haven't we, particularly with this specific administration. Release a "currently being discussed" consideration to the press, let them run with the story, and gauge public opinion on the outcome. Then and only then make firm policy. It's governing by populism and "likes". It's infantile, damaging, and serves no one but the most inferior-complexity suffering of narcissists. Then there is the whole consideration itself. One moment we are told that the government are doing everything to save lives, keep the transmissions low, protect people and the next minute it's "Let The Bodies Hit The Floor". Alright, that was an exaggeration. But the sentiment is the same, because unlocking society and then asking people to pay for testing will have consequences, and I'm sorry to say these will not be unintended consequences. Even an amoeba can work that out. 1. The poorest, most disadvantaged members of society will not be able to afford such testing. Especially those with larger families. 2. As a consequence, many in this group will not get tested. 3. This will increase transmission and disproportionally affect more people from this group. 4. This will lead to poorer health outcomes for this group. Right at the beginning of the vaccination campaign, people raised concerns about vaccination apartheid. This is at the other end of the scale. Testing Apartheid. It is a form of social engineering. Some would even go so far as to say "cleansing" (I deliberately do not want to invoke Godwin's Law here), but I do have to look at this consideration and ask myself... 1. Does it help or hinder people ? 2. Does it marginalise a particular group of people ? 3. Is it inclusive or exclusive ? 4. Does it have a cost of entry that excludes some people ? 5. Is the policy equitable for all, or harmful to some ? On face value, I think it's clear what the answers are. Ergo, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and squawks like a duck, then it's clearly a duck or pretty damn close enough to treat it like one. " Nah it's much better to spend hours trying to suggest the person who avtually posted the link ,was somehow trying to twist it,than actually address the issue. Standard tory trope. I think you are spot on. They do it all the time they did it with the mask thing the other day they leak the story the media, so every man and his dog knows whsts coming when the clown makes his address. The only thing I would disagree with is if they even give a toss what the public think. We have seen many times that they just double down on unpopular decisions (school meals ) Anyway with half a brain,or a conscious,can see how it's going to pan out, if it does goes through. Obvs they didnt make enough money through the ppe scandal. | |||
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"Getting back to the original article, which suggests people *could* be charged for testing after July, we've seen this before haven't we, particularly with this specific administration. Release a "currently being discussed" consideration to the press, let them run with the story, and gauge public opinion on the outcome. Then and only then make firm policy. It's governing by populism and "likes". It's infantile, damaging, and serves no one but the most inferior-complexity suffering of narcissists. Then there is the whole consideration itself. One moment we are told that the government are doing everything to save lives, keep the transmissions low, protect people and the next minute it's "Let The Bodies Hit The Floor". Alright, that was an exaggeration. But the sentiment is the same, because unlocking society and then asking people to pay for testing will have consequences, and I'm sorry to say these will not be unintended consequences. Even an amoeba can work that out. 1. The poorest, most disadvantaged members of society will not be able to afford such testing. Especially those with larger families. 2. As a consequence, many in this group will not get tested. 3. This will increase transmission and disproportionally affect more people from this group. 4. This will lead to poorer health outcomes for this group. Right at the beginning of the vaccination campaign, people raised concerns about vaccination apartheid. This is at the other end of the scale. Testing Apartheid. It is a form of social engineering. Some would even go so far as to say "cleansing" (I deliberately do not want to invoke Godwin's Law here), but I do have to look at this consideration and ask myself... 1. Does it help or hinder people ? 2. Does it marginalise a particular group of people ? 3. Is it inclusive or exclusive ? 4. Does it have a cost of entry that excludes some people ? 5. Is the policy equitable for all, or harmful to some ? On face value, I think it's clear what the answers are. Ergo, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and squawks like a duck, then it's clearly a duck or pretty damn close enough to treat it like one. Nah it's much better to spend hours trying to suggest the person who avtually posted the link ,was somehow trying to twist it,than actually address the issue. Standard tory trope. I think you are spot on. They do it all the time they did it with the mask thing the other day they leak the story the media, so every man and his dog knows whsts coming when the clown makes his address. The only thing I would disagree with is if they even give a toss what the public think. We have seen many times that they just double down on unpopular decisions (school meals ) Anyway with half a brain,or a conscious,can see how it's going to pan out, if it does goes through. Obvs they didnt make enough money through the ppe scandal." What issue? It's not even an issue, it's some people thinking about something.  | |||
"Nah it's much better to spend hours trying to suggest the person who actually posted the link was somehow trying to twist it, than actually address the issue. " It's a common deflection tactic (ad hominem) executed in a haphazard manner. The correct way would have been ask you to define how it is going to cost people, and defend your non-sequitur fallacy. " Standard tory trope. I think you are spot on. They do it all the time they did it with the mask thing the other day they leak the story the media, so every man and his dog knows what's coming when the clown makes his address. The only thing I would disagree with is if they even give a toss what the public think. We have seen many times that they just double down on unpopular decisions (school meals ) Anyway with half a brain, or a conscious, can see how it's going to pan out, if it does goes through. Obvs they didn't make enough money through the ppe scandal." It does feel at the very least like a money-making exercise. That's being generous. At the worst, a Machiavellian plan to harm the most vulnerable and poorest members of society. I'm just not sure the current administration have the level of intelligence to formulate and engage in Machiavellian plans of that calibre. As Machiavellian plans go, it's quite short-sighted. 1. Increasing the sickness and poor health of the most socio-economically deprived groups is cutting your nose off to spite your face. These are the people who work for very low wages, doing the menial tasks the Machiavellian Princes wouldn't do themselves. 2. As this group diminishes, the pool of available workers reduces, and the labour costs of those left rises. 3. Shuffling large number of this pool of people in to long-term sickness will raise the Welfare cost to the State and the tax-payer. As Machiavellian plans go, it's a complete "own goal" and not been thought through. I cannot in all fairness, credit the current government for having the intelligence to see all these pitfalls. Then again highly educated at Eton does not guarantee a modicum of common sense. Or compassion. | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
"You yourself twisted the story with your "Gonna cost you" comment. E | |||
"Getting back to the original article, which suggests people *could* be charged for testing after July, we've seen this before haven't we, particularly with this specific administration. Release a "currently being discussed" consideration to the press, let them run with the story, and gauge public opinion on the outcome. Then and only then make firm policy. It's governing by populism and "likes". It's infantile, damaging, and serves no one but the most inferior-complexity suffering of narcissists. Then there is the whole consideration itself. One moment we are told that the government are doing everything to save lives, keep the transmissions low, protect people and the next minute it's "Let The Bodies Hit The Floor". Alright, that was an exaggeration. But the sentiment is the same, because unlocking society and then asking people to pay for testing will have consequences, and I'm sorry to say these will not be unintended consequences. Even an amoeba can work that out. 1. The poorest, most disadvantaged members of society will not be able to afford such testing. Especially those with larger families. 2. As a consequence, many in this group will not get tested. 3. This will increase transmission and disproportionally affect more people from this group. 4. This will lead to poorer health outcomes for this group. Right at the beginning of the vaccination campaign, people raised concerns about vaccination apartheid. This is at the other end of the scale. Testing Apartheid. It is a form of social engineering. Some would even go so far as to say "cleansing" (I deliberately do not want to invoke Godwin's Law here), but I do have to look at this consideration and ask myself... 1. Does it help or hinder people ? 2. Does it marginalise a particular group of people ? 3. Is it inclusive or exclusive ? 4. Does it have a cost of entry that excludes some people ? 5. Is the policy equitable for all, or harmful to some ? On face value, I think it's clear what the answers are. Ergo, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and squawks like a duck, then it's clearly a duck or pretty damn close enough to treat it like one. " you win the award for best Fab post of the day with special mention for applied common sense and a lack of tribalism (sadly rare for these forums). | |||
"Nah it's much better to spend hours trying to suggest the person who actually posted the link was somehow trying to twist it, than actually address the issue. It's a common deflection tactic (ad hominem) executed in a haphazard manner. The correct way would have been ask you to define how it is going to cost people, and defend your non-sequitur fallacy. Standard tory trope. I think you are spot on. They do it all the time they did it with the mask thing the other day they leak the story the media, so every man and his dog knows what's coming when the clown makes his address. The only thing I would disagree with is if they even give a toss what the public think. We have seen many times that they just double down on unpopular decisions (school meals ) Anyway with half a brain, or a conscious, can see how it's going to pan out, if it does goes through. Obvs they didn't make enough money through the ppe scandal. It does feel at the very least like a money-making exercise. That's being generous. At the worst, a Machiavellian plan to harm the most vulnerable and poorest members of society. I'm just not sure the current administration have the level of intelligence to formulate and engage in Machiavellian plans of that calibre. As Machiavellian plans go, it's quite short-sighted. 1. Increasing the sickness and poor health of the most socio-economically deprived groups is cutting your nose off to spite your face. These are the people who work for very low wages, doing the menial tasks the Machiavellian Princes wouldn't do themselves. 2. As this group diminishes, the pool of available workers reduces, and the labour costs of those left rises. 3. Shuffling large number of this pool of people in to long-term sickness will raise the Welfare cost to the State and the tax-payer. As Machiavellian plans go, it's a complete "own goal" and not been thought through. I cannot in all fairness, credit the current government for having the intelligence to see all these pitfalls. Then again highly educated at Eton does not guarantee a modicum of common sense. Or compassion. " Spot on | |||
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"Anyone know who makes the tests?" Probably Matt Hancock’s mate who owns a pub. | |||
"Anyone know who makes the tests? Probably Matt Hancock’s mate who owns a pub."  | |||
"Anyone know who makes the tests?" The LF tests that I have are NHS tests (have NHS branding) These are manufactured by Xiamen Biotime Biotechnology Co Ltd Fijian Province China | |||
"Anyone know who makes the tests? Probably Matt Hancock’s mate who owns a pub." | |||
"Anyone know who makes the tests? The LF tests that I have are NHS tests (have NHS branding) These are manufactured by Xiamen Biotime Biotechnology Co Ltd Fijian Province China" Cost to the NHS = £43 per seven-test pack. | |||
"Charging for them will mean less people will test, which is what they need people to do. What a stupid plan!" At least there will be fewer false positives, this won't please the government. | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something " | |||
"Charging for them will mean less people will test, which is what they need people to do. What a stupid plan! At least there will be fewer false positives, this won't please the government. " they dont tend to do so . I do up to 6 a week. Plus test 30plus people most days of a week or help to do so. Been doing that for a good while now.... we have not had one single false positive | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
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"How do you know for fact you've never had one false positive. Even Dominic Raab stated tests produce a lot of false positives. I'm intrigued to know. " because none of the tests have been positive | |||
"How do you know for fact you've never had one false positive. Even Dominic Raab stated tests produce a lot of false positives. I'm intrigued to know. because none of the tests have been positive " | |||
"How do you know for fact you've never had one false positive. Even Dominic Raab stated tests produce a lot of false positives. I'm intrigued to know. because none of the tests have been positive "Well, when you say it like that....
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"Tories trying to save a few quid New royal yacht to pay for " Got to have priorities | |||
"Tories trying to save a few quid New royal yacht to pay for " Its not, and never will be, a Royal Yacht. | |||
"Tories trying to save a few quid New royal yacht to pay for " I'm guessing you believed the "Gonna cost you" comment. Have a read of the link and see where it says "its gonna cost you" E | |||
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"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. " I didn't think they were considering it, I thought it was definitely Gonna cost you? That kinda semantics? 
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"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. I didn't think they were considering it, I thought it was definitely Gonna cost you? That kinda semantics?
E"Do you think the gmnt should be charging people to be tested? | |||
Tories argue semantics but Lionel doesn't | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. I didn't think they were considering it, I thought it was definitely Gonna cost you? That kinda semantics?
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Do you think the gmnt should be charging people to be tested?"No. The questions irrelevant, it's not what they're doing. You know that though, you posted the link then twisted it with your "Gonna cost you" comment. Now your moaning the threads being bogged down by semantics. If you post an untrue and miss-leading comment, expect it to be called out. E | |||
"Here we go again
Tories argue semantics but Lionel doesn't "
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"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. I didn't think they were considering it, I thought it was definitely Gonna cost you? That kinda semantics?
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Do you think the gmnt should be charging people to be tested?
No. The questions irrelevant, it's not what they're doing.
You know that though, you posted the link then twisted it with your "Gonna cost you" comment.
Now your moaning the threads being bogged down by semantics.
If you post an untrue and miss-leading comment, expect it to be called out.
E"
Outstanding
I think I have my answer
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"Charging for them will mean less people will test, which is what they need people to do. What a stupid plan!" But since most people are using them, but not reporting the results.... | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. I didn't think they were considering it, I thought it was definitely Gonna cost you? That kinda semantics?
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Do you think the gmnt should be charging people to be tested?
No. The questions irrelevant, it's not what they're doing.
You know that though, you posted the link then twisted it with your "Gonna cost you" comment.
Now your moaning the threads being bogged down by semantics.
If you post an untrue and miss-leading comment, expect it to be called out.
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Outstanding
I think I have my answer
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"Charging for them will mean less people will test, which is what they need people to do. What a stupid plan! But since most people are using them, but not reporting the results...." Why are people not reporting results? | |||
"They arent even bothering to hide the fact that they wont touch the actual topic. How embarassing." Maybe people read the article you posted, then realised the "Gonna cost you" cimment was bollocks? E | |||
"They arent even bothering to hide the fact that they wont touch the actual topic. How embarassing. Maybe people read the article you posted, then realised the "Gonna cost you" cimment was bollocks? E"
The government are many things. Purveyor of testing kits, they are not . | |||
"Once again a piece mildly criticising the oaf turns into personal attacks Some people just camt help themselves Embarassing " Don't be embarrassed Lionel. We do understand the terrible effects of cabin fever.  | |||
"Charging for them will mean less people will test, which is what they need people to do. What a stupid plan! But since most people are using them, but not reporting the results.... Why are people not reporting results?" People do stuff for either reward, be that receiving money or a hit of dopamine, or to avoid consequence, be that paying money or feeling pain. Taking a Cov test delivers a personal reward ie the knowledge you are Cov negative and not a danger to those around you, that probably comes with a small hit of feel good dopamine... Reporting a test result gives no personal reward and there are no obvious consequence for not doing it. | |||
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"Putting over a point is fine whatever your political petsuasion but do not try and pass opinion and anecdotes over as fact. " Is there a bored emoji? | |||
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"I have been taking a lateral flow test twice weekly for almost a year now as has everyone I work with. They have all been negative. We have to report the results or we can’t go in to work. I think the false positives that everyone talks about must be down to not following proper infection control procedures when taking them" There is a huge discrepancy in results, between home administered and professionally administered, tests. | |||
"Once again a piece mildly criticising the oaf turns into personal attacks Some people just camt help themselves Embarassing Personal attack? You mean a light hearted joke? You do realise e-penis power isn't a real thing? " It is never a joke when you are both at loggerheads, just ignore each other please. | |||
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"Can't see charges being implemented for quite some time, the government needs all those false positives to keep driving the fear porn. They can drive the numbers up and down at will its farcicle, this is why they're modeling have been proved wrong at every single turn. Even the person who invented the testing method said he did not design it for this and it would not produce accurate readings. He mysteriously died shortly after saying that, funny that. " Kary Mullins, inventor of the PCR test, died 7th August 2019. Remind when the Covid outbreak began? E | |||
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"Can't see charges being implemented for quite some time, the government needs all those false positives to keep driving the fear porn. They can drive the numbers up and down at will its farcicle, this is why they're modeling have been proved wrong at every single turn. Even the person who invented the testing method said he did not design it for this and it would not produce accurate readings. He mysteriously died shortly after saying that, funny that. " Somehow, don't think he or his family were pissing themselves laughing before he died. | |||
"I think it's a silly move to start to charge for tests, especially during a period when infection levels are rising so fast. As with most infections, it's better to know that you're potentially infected and infectious to others, for the greater good of society. It potentially helps society financially too, so a small cost of a test is nothing. Especially when compared to the many tens of £billions that have been spent on test and trace, with questionable results. " It's an opportunity to raise/make money though isnt it? | |||
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"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. " oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel??" For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes. | |||
"Good! I'm getting pretty pissed off paying for everyones tests, and haven't needed one myself
"Why have you been in space not meeting people? | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes." If you really wanna speak about the article, it states - Tests are guaranteed to be free u till the end of July and a statement will be forthcoming regarding any extension of this. It also states that only 14% of tests sent out have been registered. Is it right that we as a nation of tax payers just keep wasting 86% of the money spent on those tests? | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes." "Gonna cost you." Statement of fact. Where's the question? E | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes. "Gonna cost you." Statement of fact. Where's the question? E" I'll refer you to rugby's post about discussing actual topic | |||
"Charging for them will mean less people will test, which is what they need people to do. What a stupid plan!" Completely agree with this. Especially as lots of places are saying you will need a negative test (mainly big events) | |||
"Good! I'm getting pretty pissed off paying for everyones tests, and haven't needed one myself
Why have you been in space not meeting people?"
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"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes. If you really wanna speak about the article, it states - Tests are guaranteed to be free u till the end of July and a statement will be forthcoming regarding any extension of this. It also states that only 14% of tests sent out have been registered. Is it right that we as a nation of tax payers just keep wasting 86% of the money spent on those tests?" On those tests not returned, have they taken into account how many they hand out at one time. Example we had to go for area PCR surge testing, when done they asked do you need any lft tests, I responded no I’ve already got 4 x boxes of 7, more than enough, I can pop back when I need some more. They then gave me 10 x boxes of 7. There are only two in the household and only one needs to do it twice a week. This last week the kid had to do daily lft testing for school, they sent him home with another three boxes of 7, term ended yesterday. So I now currently have 12 boxes in the cupboard (84 tests). I’m one household so can see how the non returns could be so high. | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
"Boris always leaks story to press first Charging what a very very stupid idea False economy | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes. If you really wanna speak about the article, it states - Tests are guaranteed to be free u till the end of July and a statement will be forthcoming regarding any extension of this. It also states that only 14% of tests sent out have been registered. Is it right that we as a nation of tax payers just keep wasting 86% of the money spent on those tests? On those tests not returned, have they taken into account how many they hand out at one time. Example we had to go for area PCR surge testing, when done they asked do you need any lft tests, I responded no I’ve already got 4 x boxes of 7, more than enough, I can pop back when I need some more. They then gave me 10 x boxes of 7. There are only two in the household and only one needs to do it twice a week. This last week the kid had to do daily lft testing for school, they sent him home with another three boxes of 7, term ended yesterday. So I now currently have 12 boxes in the cupboard (84 tests). I’m one household so can see how the non returns could be so high. " Do you have an Amazon account ???? 
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"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes. If you really wanna speak about the article, it states - Tests are guaranteed to be free u till the end of July and a statement will be forthcoming regarding any extension of this. It also states that only 14% of tests sent out have been registered. Is it right that we as a nation of tax payers just keep wasting 86% of the money spent on those tests? On those tests not returned, have they taken into account how many they hand out at one time. Example we had to go for area PCR surge testing, when done they asked do you need any lft tests, I responded no I’ve already got 4 x boxes of 7, more than enough, I can pop back when I need some more. They then gave me 10 x boxes of 7. There are only two in the household and only one needs to do it twice a week. This last week the kid had to do daily lft testing for school, they sent him home with another three boxes of 7, term ended yesterday. So I now currently have 12 boxes in the cupboard (84 tests). I’m one household so can see how the non returns could be so high. " I don’t think most people log the results | |||
"Good! I'm getting pretty pissed off paying for everyones tests, and haven't needed one myself
Why have you been in space not meeting people?"I don't get this. Not everyone has had a test | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes. If you really wanna speak about the article, it states - Tests are guaranteed to be free u till the end of July and a statement will be forthcoming regarding any extension of this. It also states that only 14% of tests sent out have been registered. Is it right that we as a nation of tax payers just keep wasting 86% of the money spent on those tests? On those tests not returned, have they taken into account how many they hand out at one time. Example we had to go for area PCR surge testing, when done they asked do you need any lft tests, I responded no I’ve already got 4 x boxes of 7, more than enough, I can pop back when I need some more. They then gave me 10 x boxes of 7. There are only two in the household and only one needs to do it twice a week. This last week the kid had to do daily lft testing for school, they sent him home with another three boxes of 7, term ended yesterday. So I now currently have 12 boxes in the cupboard (84 tests). I’m one household so can see how the non returns could be so high. I don’t think most people log the results" So why do the test, do they not have to prove they’ve done the test for school, work and alike ? | |||
"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes. If you really wanna speak about the article, it states - Tests are guaranteed to be free u till the end of July and a statement will be forthcoming regarding any extension of this. It also states that only 14% of tests sent out have been registered. Is it right that we as a nation of tax payers just keep wasting 86% of the money spent on those tests? On those tests not returned, have they taken into account how many they hand out at one time. Example we had to go for area PCR surge testing, when done they asked do you need any lft tests, I responded no I’ve already got 4 x boxes of 7, more than enough, I can pop back when I need some more. They then gave me 10 x boxes of 7. There are only two in the household and only one needs to do it twice a week. This last week the kid had to do daily lft testing for school, they sent him home with another three boxes of 7, term ended yesterday. So I now currently have 12 boxes in the cupboard (84 tests). I’m one household so can see how the non returns could be so high. I don’t think most people log the results So why do the test, do they not have to prove they’ve done the test for school, work and alike ? " I'm not entirely sure of the answer to that question. All i can say is my daughters school have been handing them out like sweets. They do not have to prove they have done the tests though. | |||
"Can't see charges being implemented for quite some time, the government needs all those false positives to keep driving the fear porn. They can drive the numbers up and down at will its farcicle, this is why they're modeling have been proved wrong at every single turn. Even the person who invented the testing method said he did not design it for this and it would not produce accurate readings. He mysteriously died shortly after saying that, funny that. " as I've said, I've yet to have one of these false positives, yet in my house hold we do upwards of 15 tests per week between all of us.. the care home I work in has also not had a positive test that wasnt actually then later confirmed with a pcr test. | |||
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"It must be completely coincidental that not one of the Tory contributions to this thread,have actually discussed the actual issue, ie the gmnt considering charging people to be tested. I mean, heaven forbid they are just trying to divert any criticism of that shower by bogging the thread down on semantics. oh its considering charging now.begining of thread you told people it was gona coat them.what one is it lionel?? For the last time. What type of simpleton would claim something as a fact and then post a link claiming the gmnt were considering asking people to pay? My comments were clearly posed as a question but like I said earlier, the fact that the only people actually discussing the article,are those critical of the gmnt,speaks volumes. If you really wanna speak about the article, it states - Tests are guaranteed to be free u till the end of July and a statement will be forthcoming regarding any extension of this. It also states that only 14% of tests sent out have been registered. Is it right that we as a nation of tax payers just keep wasting 86% of the money spent on those tests? On those tests not returned, have they taken into account how many they hand out at one time. Example we had to go for area PCR surge testing, when done they asked do you need any lft tests, I responded no I’ve already got 4 x boxes of 7, more than enough, I can pop back when I need some more. They then gave me 10 x boxes of 7. There are only two in the household and only one needs to do it twice a week. This last week the kid had to do daily lft testing for school, they sent him home with another three boxes of 7, term ended yesterday. So I now currently have 12 boxes in the cupboard (84 tests). I’m one household so can see how the non returns could be so high. I don’t think most people log the results So why do the test, do they not have to prove they’ve done the test for school, work and alike ? " Some people do it to see if they have it. If they haven’t got it then see no reason to record the result. | |||
"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-lateral-flow-test-charged-b1879797.html Gonna cost you. As usual, a headline being twisted by the anti government brigade. It actually says you 'could' be charged and that it's being 'considered'.
Gmnt considers charging for tests.
Newspaper runs story
Quite how this 'twists'the story is anyones guess.
Plus printing a story about something the gmnt is considering is 'anti gmnt'
That's democracy folks
It was you twisting it.
You said 'gonna cost you' as if it's a sure thing.
That's not like Lionel to twist something
Of course not, he would never twist something in order to gain abit of extra e-penis power!
Wanna explain the anti gmnt bit?
Yes, you hate the Tories, hence anti government, since the Tories are in power at the moment.
Right
So I'm not allowed to post articles which are not even remotely critical of the gmnt?
Gotcha
When you state something that the article doesn't, then yes, that's twisting the story.
There's no debate to be had in that regard.
There is but I really camt be arsed arguing with you both.
"Lionel , take a break from the forums , you are taking things so seriously lately and it's really obvious it's getting to you. If you need to chat or get things off your chest feel free to message me. X | |||
