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"Post viral fatigue syndrome is a none condition and long covid is basically this. " *known | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol" Tbh the blokes either a complete troll or a complete cunt if he's actually suggesting that..? No intention of reading it myself.. | |||
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"a lot of long cocks are all in the mind so maybe something similar?" If it's touching one's mind then it could be very long..   | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Tbh the blokes either a complete troll or a complete cunt if he's actually suggesting that..? No intention of reading it myself.." Am I the cunt/troll or do you mean this Stuart guy! | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Tbh the blokes either a complete troll or a complete cunt if he's actually suggesting that..? No intention of reading it myself.. Am I the cunt/troll or do you mean this Stuart guy!" The latter fella, thought that was obvious..  | |||
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"Post viral fatigue syndrome is a none condition and long covid is basically this. *known " That changes it a bit  | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol" I've read the article and that's not what he's suggesting. It's more complex than that. Hopefully this link is allowed. https://unherd.com/2021/06/does-long-covid-really-exist/ | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol" Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head" If they didn't test positive they wouldnt be among the list of positive cases would they. E | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head" What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol" Same with cancer,it's all a smoke screen to reduce the population especially the elderly who are becoming a financial burden on society. #sarcasm  | |||
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"Think questioning long covid is offensive to the people suffering. Can't believe people so nasty . And stupid. We all wish long covid didn't exist but it does" Yes,never question anything,someone will get offended
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing" There are currently 1 million medically diagnosed cases ofong Covid in the UK. 1,000,000. There are even people on this very thread saying they've got it and it's been medically diagnosed. Why not message them and get some actual facts. E | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing" I dont think long covid means you have the virus for months. More the complications bought on from it. Therefore you wont test positive from a test once the virus has left the body? | |||
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"Long term viral effects are definitely real. That said, I’m certain plenty of lazy people will latch on to this as they do with any vague condition or syndrome and use it as an excuse. Many others who genuinely have long term side effects will just get on with their lives without moaning. Very little you can do about this kind of thing but they do often get better over time." I've had no choice but to get on with my life. In a bid to get fit again rejoined the gym about a month ago. It's just ridiculous takes me days to recover from what I would class as a very easy session. I've been using the gym off and on for about 35 year's and regularly 4/5 days a week for the past ten years. Prior to that I took part in triathlons ultra marathons, marathons swimming, cycling and various other activities around 20/30 HRS a week exercise. So I'm not coming from a complete couch potato and know my body and it's capacity very well. Had covid bad last October, since then I feel like a wheezing,aching mess, my aerobic capacity is extremely limited as an asthmatic my peak flow is down. I get tired walking up stairs when I say tired my legs are on fire after two or three steps. And the brain fog plus the effects on my nerves have been debilitating. I'm a(was) big strong active guy, with a physical job, look after my diet, exercise regularly. Now I feel like a shell of a man. But I'm not going to give in, I'm not going to let it win, I'm going to keep fighting and plugging away. Much like the many ironman triathlons I have completed it's just about moving forward keep putting one foot in front of the other. Sadly many others are far worse. My sister can barely get out of bed!! It's real all I ask is that people show a little compassion and less cynicism. Peace and love xxx | |||
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"With long covid being such a new issue, and with some people getting it and others not (without there being common indicators to suggest a link) I think the big worry would be long Covid being treated with the same suspicion as fibromyalgia I know a guy from the gym (hospital worker) who is suffering from long covid. He was a strong lad, hard worker. He's put on his feet and cant see a way back to normality" well I think the difficulty is for some understanding the truth about how covid attacks the body. For me it felt like a herd of stampeding elephants rampaging through my body. Yes whilst many things will return to normal and fully recover many things will never be the same and the landscape has been permanently altered. I count myself fortunate that I can still discuss this, I lay awake some nights going over the week's I was unwell when I had covid and just don't understand how I was able to get through it and how the fuck I managed to stay out of hospital,but I think that was more down to availability of resources than choice. Many aren't here to have this conversation and I believe that people are genuinely ignoring the deaths of thousands of people just to satisfy their own agenda. | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing There are currently 1 million medically diagnosed cases ofong Covid in the UK. 1,000,000. There are even people on this very thread saying they've got it and it's been medically diagnosed. Why not message them and get some actual facts. E " Medically diagnosed  without a diagnostic test for long covid...you are having a laugh | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing There are currently 1 million medically diagnosed cases ofong Covid in the UK. 1,000,000. There are even people on this very thread saying they've got it and it's been medically diagnosed. Why not message them and get some actual facts. E Medically diagnosed without a diagnostic test for long covid...you are having a laugh "Yeah, I'd believe a doctors diagnosis over your doubt. | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing There are currently 1 million medically diagnosed cases ofong Covid in the UK. 1,000,000. There are even people on this very thread saying they've got it and it's been medically diagnosed. Why not message them and get some actual facts. E Medically diagnosed without a diagnostic test for long covid...you are having a laugh "From the NHS website; Long-term effects of coronavirus (long COVID) For some people, coronavirus (COVID-19) can cause symptoms that last weeks or months after the infection has gone. This is sometimes called post-COVID-19 syndrome or "long COVID". About long COVID. How long it takes to recover from COVID-19 is different for everybody. Many people feel better in a few days or weeks and most will make a full recovery within 12 weeks. But for some people, symptoms can last longer. The chances of having long-term symptoms does not seem to be linked to how ill you are when you first get COVID-19. People who had mild symptoms at first can still have long-term problems. Symptoms of long COVID. There are lots of symptoms you can have after a COVID-19 infection. Common long COVID symptoms include: extreme tiredness (fatigue) shortness of breath chest pain or tightness problems with memory and concentration ("brain fog") difficulty sleeping (insomnia) heart palpitations dizziness pins and needles joint pain depression and anxiety tinnitus earaches feeling sick diarrhoea stomach aches loss of appetite a high temperature cough headaches sore throat changes to sense of smell or taste rashes I'd suggest these (and of course Covid itself) are diagnoseable conditions. I hope that helps. E | |||
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"Long term viral effects are definitely real. That said, I’m certain plenty of lazy people will latch on to this as they do with any vague condition or syndrome and use it as an excuse. Many others who genuinely have long term side effects will just get on with their lives without moaning. Very little you can do about this kind of thing but they do often get better over time. I've had no choice but to get on with my life. In a bid to get fit again rejoined the gym about a month ago. It's just ridiculous takes me days to recover from what I would class as a very easy session. I've been using the gym off and on for about 35 year's and regularly 4/5 days a week for the past ten years. Prior to that I took part in triathlons ultra marathons, marathons swimming, cycling and various other activities around 20/30 HRS a week exercise. So I'm not coming from a complete couch potato and know my body and it's capacity very well. Had covid bad last October, since then I feel like a wheezing,aching mess, my aerobic capacity is extremely limited as an asthmatic my peak flow is down. I get tired walking up stairs when I say tired my legs are on fire after two or three steps. And the brain fog plus the effects on my nerves have been debilitating. I'm a(was) big strong active guy, with a physical job, look after my diet, exercise regularly. Now I feel like a shell of a man. But I'm not going to give in, I'm not going to let it win, I'm going to keep fighting and plugging away. Much like the many ironman triathlons I have completed it's just about moving forward keep putting one foot in front of the other. Sadly many others are far worse. My sister can barely get out of bed!! It's real all I ask is that people show a little compassion and less cynicism. Peace and love xxx" First of all just want to say keep going, you can do this! Clearly not a chap to let things beat you, inspiring read and really wish you all the very best. Second thing a question (you may prefer not to answer as personal) - you were obviously very fit and it sounds like you ate a healthy diet. Are you aware of any underlying health conditions that may have made you more susceptible to Covid, and in this case more importantly, long covid? Just find this all so worrying and fascinating at the same time. Generally speaking it appears that the vast majority of people most impacted by covid have been old, obese or have pre-existing/underlying health conditions. It goes against common sense that fit and healthy people should be so adversely effected but there are clearly many examples of just that. We need to know why? | |||
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"It’s like any syndrome, something diagnosed by how the person feels, rather than by any medical test, so yes it’s real and yes it’s in the mind, like many illnesses mine and body are interconnected. I’ve had flu, malaria and Covid and they all leave you weak and tired for weeks and weeks " I have a (luckily) very rare genetic syndrome which is most definitely not in the mind not anything to do with the mind. A syndrome is a set of medical signs and symptoms which are correlated with each other and often associated with a particular disease or disorder. Unfortunately the term syndrome, disease and disorder are often end up being interchanged and used wrongly. | |||
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"Yes it exists, it's disrespectful to suggest it doesn't. " Totally this..
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"Long term viral effects are definitely real. That said, I’m certain plenty of lazy people will latch on to this as they do with any vague condition or syndrome and use it as an excuse. Many others who genuinely have long term side effects will just get on with their lives without moaning. Very little you can do about this kind of thing but they do often get better over time. I've had no choice but to get on with my life. In a bid to get fit again rejoined the gym about a month ago. It's just ridiculous takes me days to recover from what I would class as a very easy session. I've been using the gym off and on for about 35 year's and regularly 4/5 days a week for the past ten years. Prior to that I took part in triathlons ultra marathons, marathons swimming, cycling and various other activities around 20/30 HRS a week exercise. So I'm not coming from a complete couch potato and know my body and it's capacity very well. Had covid bad last October, since then I feel like a wheezing,aching mess, my aerobic capacity is extremely limited as an asthmatic my peak flow is down. I get tired walking up stairs when I say tired my legs are on fire after two or three steps. And the brain fog plus the effects on my nerves have been debilitating. I'm a(was) big strong active guy, with a physical job, look after my diet, exercise regularly. Now I feel like a shell of a man. But I'm not going to give in, I'm not going to let it win, I'm going to keep fighting and plugging away. Much like the many ironman triathlons I have completed it's just about moving forward keep putting one foot in front of the other. Sadly many others are far worse. My sister can barely get out of bed!! It's real all I ask is that people show a little compassion and less cynicism. Peace and love xxx" Like you I was fit, active and took part in Tri’s and was building up for an Ironman. Following Covid I lost all get up and go, but still got out and did training (but nowhere near at the level I had). Finally went to see the doctor and Covid left me with diabetes and dangerously high blood pressure | |||
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(that was a year ago) hes not been to work since, he insists he can work from home but not in the office as that will be to much for him. He holds a very high position with social services in our area so nobody is questioning him. But funny enough he manages golf/dog walking/shopping/car washing/gardening with no problems, not to mention the new big gated drive way hes just built himself,
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"Dunno. But its certainly been milked. A fella down the road declared himself as having long term covid health issues 2 weeks after testing positive (that was a year ago) hes not been to work since, he insists he can work from home but not in the office as that will be to much for him. He holds a very high position with social services in our area so nobody is questioning him. But funny enough he manages golf/dog walking/shopping/car washing/gardening with no problems, not to mention the new big gated drive way hes just built himself,
Mrs C"There will always be people who will use any excuse to be lazy, and that paints genuine sufferer's as "fakers" which is a nightmare | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing There are currently 1 million medically diagnosed cases ofong Covid in the UK. 1,000,000. There are even people on this very thread saying they've got it and it's been medically diagnosed. Why not message them and get some actual facts. E Medically diagnosed without a diagnostic test for long covid...you are having a laugh
From the NHS website;
Long-term effects of coronavirus (long COVID)
For some people, coronavirus (COVID-19) can cause symptoms that last weeks or months after the infection has gone. This is sometimes called post-COVID-19 syndrome or "long COVID".
About long COVID.
How long it takes to recover from COVID-19 is different for everybody.
Many people feel better in a few days or weeks and most will make a full recovery within 12 weeks. But for some people, symptoms can last longer.
The chances of having long-term symptoms does not seem to be linked to how ill you are when you first get COVID-19.
People who had mild symptoms at first can still have long-term problems.
Symptoms of long COVID.
There are lots of symptoms you can have after a COVID-19 infection.
Common long COVID symptoms include:
extreme tiredness (fatigue)
shortness of breath
chest pain or tightness
problems with memory and concentration ("brain fog")
difficulty sleeping (insomnia)
heart palpitations
dizziness
pins and needles
joint pain
depression and anxiety
tinnitus
earaches
feeling sick
diarrhoea
stomach aches
loss of appetite
a high temperature
cough
headaches
sore throat
changes to sense of smell or taste
rashes
I'd suggest these (and of course Covid itself) are diagnoseable conditions.
I hope that helps.
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing There are currently 1 million medically diagnosed cases ofong Covid in the UK. 1,000,000. There are even people on this very thread saying they've got it and it's been medically diagnosed. Why not message them and get some actual facts. E Medically diagnosed without a diagnostic test for long covid...you are having a laugh
From the NHS website;
Long-term effects of coronavirus (long COVID)
For some people, coronavirus (COVID-19) can cause symptoms that last weeks or months after the infection has gone. This is sometimes called post-COVID-19 syndrome or "long COVID".
About long COVID.
How long it takes to recover from COVID-19 is different for everybody.
Many people feel better in a few days or weeks and most will make a full recovery within 12 weeks. But for some people, symptoms can last longer.
The chances of having long-term symptoms does not seem to be linked to how ill you are when you first get COVID-19.
People who had mild symptoms at first can still have long-term problems.
Symptoms of long COVID.
There are lots of symptoms you can have after a COVID-19 infection.
Common long COVID symptoms include:
extreme tiredness (fatigue)
shortness of breath
chest pain or tightness
problems with memory and concentration ("brain fog")
difficulty sleeping (insomnia)
heart palpitations
dizziness
pins and needles
joint pain
depression and anxiety
tinnitus
earaches
feeling sick
diarrhoea
stomach aches
loss of appetite
a high temperature
cough
headaches
sore throat
changes to sense of smell or taste
rashes
I'd suggest these (and of course Covid itself) are diagnoseable conditions.
I hope that helps.
E
So we will just pretend that every other possible illness with the same symptoms cease to exist right
"I really don't understand why people are trying to debunk long covid, is it another conspiracy then That doesn't exist? In some people's eyes. | |||
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"Does the moon exist? Is the Earth actually flat? Are there lizard overlords? This discussion is in the same category as the above." Hold on, there are lizard overlords. Its called the conservative party. | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol Do they test positive every test? If not then its all in the head What i mean is does a so called long covid case test all the time? or is this a self diagnosis because the medical world have yet to confirm it even is a thing There are currently 1 million medically diagnosed cases ofong Covid in the UK. 1,000,000. There are even people on this very thread saying they've got it and it's been medically diagnosed. Why not message them and get some actual facts. E Medically diagnosed without a diagnostic test for long covid...you are having a laugh
From the NHS website;
Long-term effects of coronavirus (long COVID)
For some people, coronavirus (COVID-19) can cause symptoms that last weeks or months after the infection has gone. This is sometimes called post-COVID-19 syndrome or "long COVID".
About long COVID.
How long it takes to recover from COVID-19 is different for everybody.
Many people feel better in a few days or weeks and most will make a full recovery within 12 weeks. But for some people, symptoms can last longer.
The chances of having long-term symptoms does not seem to be linked to how ill you are when you first get COVID-19.
People who had mild symptoms at first can still have long-term problems.
Symptoms of long COVID.
There are lots of symptoms you can have after a COVID-19 infection.
Common long COVID symptoms include:
extreme tiredness (fatigue)
shortness of breath
chest pain or tightness
problems with memory and concentration ("brain fog")
difficulty sleeping (insomnia)
heart palpitations
dizziness
pins and needles
joint pain
depression and anxiety
tinnitus
earaches
feeling sick
diarrhoea
stomach aches
loss of appetite
a high temperature
cough
headaches
sore throat
changes to sense of smell or taste
rashes
I'd suggest these (and of course Covid itself) are diagnoseable conditions.
I hope that helps.
E
So we will just pretend that every other possible illness with the same symptoms cease to exist right
I really don't understand why people are trying to debunk long covid, is it another conspiracy then
That doesn't exist?
In some people's eyes."I suggested to him he actually spoke to some of the people on this thread who've had/got Long Covid. I'm guessing he hasn't. Because of course that would mean all the denier bullcrap is proved wrong. E | |||
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"Think questioning long covid is offensive to the people suffering. Can't believe people so nasty . And stupid. We have developed specialist clinics for those poor folks suffering with this, lifelong diabetes, high cholesterol, massive loss in lung function, very sodding real We all wish long covid didn't exist but it does" | |||
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"Think questioning long covid is offensive to the people suffering. Can't believe people so nasty . And stupid. We all wish long covid didn't exist but it does Yes,never question anything,someone will get offended
Up till your comment,no one was nasty,untill you started the name calling "Yes, because suggesting that a condition that is affecting tens of thousands of people isn’t nasty at all. | |||
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"Think questioning long covid is offensive to the people suffering. Can't believe people so nasty . And stupid. We all wish long covid didn't exist but it does Yes,never question anything,someone will get offended
Up till your comment,no one was nasty,untill you started the name calling
Yes, because suggesting that a condition that is affecting tens of thousands of people isn’t nasty at all."That makes no sense whatsoever | |||
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"Think questioning long covid is offensive to the people suffering. Can't believe people so nasty . And stupid. We all wish long covid didn't exist but it does Yes,never question anything,someone will get offended
Up till your comment,no one was nasty,untill you started the name calling
Yes, because suggesting that a condition that is affecting tens of thousands of people isn’t nasty at all.
That makes no sense whatsoever "Suggesting that a condition that is ruining the lives of thousands doesn’t exist is, in itself, nasty. Does that explain it for you? | |||
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"Article in unherd by Stuart Ritchie Kings college. Suggests it might just be all the mind...not controversial at all lol" Definitely and it can kill. i know people who got long term covid and people who died from it | |||
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