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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I really think it's a mistake and that we should have to wear masks for the foreseeable. I hate wearing them because my glasses always steam up but with cases on the rise again, it doesn't make sense to stop wearing them. Just my opinion |
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"Masks may be dropped from needing to be worn.
If so. Are you dropping wearing yours?"
Really? We've just had an email saying the local secondary schools are now asking children to wear their masks all day long except when eating. This has just been put in in at least 3 local schools |
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over a year ago
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I’m still going to keep wearing mine on public transport and in shops or other crowded areas. I think it’s a small price to pay when it’s not magically going to disappear overnight on the 18th |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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I've read that's it's up to the individual.
I'll be wearing mine. We have cases at work, my year 12 and his whole cohort are working from home this week. I feel it's going the wrong way again |
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They're a good way to protect others, especially so when so many otherwise healthy younger people may have no symptoms and be ignorant of being a risk.
There are tens of thousands of new infections daily - this will potentially be growing.
Wearing a mask is very little trouble for most people. I'll largely continue to wear mine as a double vaxxed person |
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I am not going to wear mine as I think it will always be possible to find someone reason to hold off and we have to say enough is enough at some point.
I have been double jabbed and I think the vast majority of people will be soon. The vaccine works in _reducing_ substantial death and that is as good as it is going to get. The NHS will always be under some kind of pressure or other (the next obvious pressure point is the pent up demand for all the surgeries etc that have been postponed for the last year - what has happened to cancer and heart treatments for example?)
I respect the rights of people not to get jabbed or to wear masks all the time but we have to move on now.
The kids need to be able to socialise properly, people need to be able to find work and we have to learn to live with this. |
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I'll probably continue to wear mine in certain situations.
Though to be honest I've doubted their effectiveness from day one . This is because a very high percentage of people I see don't wear them properly, wear them for too long or repeatedly wear the same one, continually use their fingers to adjust them round their mouth and nose or pull them down to speak. Since we were told at the start that we wear masks to protect other people I'm not confident that I'm being protected |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Probably yes, i will stop wearing one.
I will still carry one around within reach so in the car or bag,
I will access the situation as to where i am going, so for example i would still think of putting a mask on to enter a hospital or the local surgery, if i had a cold or cough i would consider wearing one so am not spluttering particles over everyone if i was in a shop.
Some circumstances even now though are ridiculous like having to put a mask on to enter a restaurant and then promptly removing it when sitting down.
Hopefully this will all make people think a little bit more about things rather than just blithely returning to how it was. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probably yes, i will stop wearing one.
I will still carry one around within reach so in the car or bag,
I will access the situation as to where i am going, so for example i would still think of putting a mask on to enter a hospital or the local surgery, if i had a cold or cough i would consider wearing one so am not spluttering particles over everyone if i was in a shop.
Some circumstances even now though are ridiculous like having to put a mask on to enter a restaurant and then promptly removing it when sitting down.
Hopefully this will all make people think a little bit more about things rather than just blithely returning to how it was."
Yes I agree it depends on the situation.
We have been on trains a lot recently and on a number of occasions been the only people in the carriage but its still a legal requirement to wear one. |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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I will probably stop wearing one, I will have a box of disposable ones in the car just incase but I will follow the safety guidelines of keeping my distance and washing hands regularly. They are far more effective than masks in my view. |
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"I'll probably continue to wear mine in certain situations.
Though to be honest I've doubted their effectiveness from day one . This is because a very high percentage of people I see don't wear them properly, wear them for too long or repeatedly wear the same one, continually use their fingers to adjust them round their mouth and nose or pull them down to speak. Since we were told at the start that we wear masks to protect other people I'm not confident that I'm being protected"
I have always thought this too so I'll be not using mine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don't think they'll do much good if vast majority stop wearing them.
As I understand it, the mask was to limit virus spreading outwards rather than as protection against inhaling virus.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Don't think they'll do much good if vast majority stop wearing them.
As I understand it, the mask was to limit virus spreading outwards rather than as protection against inhaling virus.
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Correct, they would offer some protection but a bit like wearing a book as a bullet proof shirt.
It may lessen the viral load that hits you but you will probably get hit.
But I see no harm like in the far East if people start to wear them as a curtesy when they have a cold. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Don't think they'll do much good if vast majority stop wearing them.
As I understand it, the mask was to limit virus spreading outwards rather than as protection against inhaling virus.
Correct, they would offer some protection but a bit like wearing a book as a bullet proof shirt.
It may lessen the viral load that hits you but you will probably get hit.
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Unless of course it's the Encyclopedia Britannica opened at B for Bullet Proof Vest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Won’t be wearing a mask other than at work where it’s still mandatory (medical) plus the whole mask fares has been a joke children that have snot running down there faces constantly not had to wear one obese people that we are having to protect have been able to claim exemption it’s should have always been everyone wears one or nobody wears one from the get go, |
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"I'll probably continue to wear mine in certain situations.
Though to be honest I've doubted their effectiveness from day one . This is because a very high percentage of people I see don't wear them properly, wear them for too long or repeatedly wear the same one, continually use their fingers to adjust them round their mouth and nose or pull them down to speak. Since we were told at the start that we wear masks to protect other people I'm not confident that I'm being protected"
At the start of the pandemic the advice was to NOT wear masks as the constant readjusting and incorrect use would be detrimental but whatever
I don't wear one, nor will I. Everyone can do as the please
I will maintain social distancing though as I like my space |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've had both my jabs and unlike a lot ( from what I've seen) on here I haven't met anyone since before fab; I've not even had a social with anyone yet although that's for other reasons.
I'm medically exempt from wearing masks yet I've still worn mine throughout the pandemic as I'm classed as clinically extremely high risk.
Wearing them makes me feel sweaty and unwell in hot shops but given how high risk I am and how easily it spreads I'm reconsidering my decision to stop wearing them when it's allowed.
I do think those planning on ditching them need to think about those who are most at risk.
Maybe if there weren't so many han-COCK types in government spme would take this pandemic more seriously!
They are awful to wear though, but I think in shops They re needed as it's impossible to social distance |
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At work both voluntary and proper work I will continue to wear mine. If I use public transport then I will wear mine.. and probably while shopping or inside.
So yes. It's not like it hurts to wear it |
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“ I think we are going to now move into a period where there won’t be legal restrictions, the state won’t be telling you what to do, but you will want to exercise a degree of personal responsibility and judgment ”
Good |
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By *issusWoman
over a year ago
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Though to be honest I've doubted their effectiveness from day one . This is because a very high percentage of people I see don't wear them properly, wear them for too long or repeatedly wear the same one, continually use their fingers to adjust them round their mouth and nose or pull them down to speak. Since we were told at the start that we wear masks to protect other people I'm not confident that I'm being protected"
This.
Even in restaurants you're supposed to put on a mask to use a bathroom. Every single person in that situation is reusing their disposable masks multiple times, have them in their pockets, rubbing against tables, falling on the floor then going back over ones face.
What's the point in making up a rule that has absolutely no practical real life way of applying it properly for it to actually work?
The only people who actually suffer from it are those who are forced to work in it all day long.
People who scream the loudest about how they're protecting others are usually the ones who misuse their face covering every time they wear it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't and won't wear one. When I wear one for work (dust) I have no problem with it, but at least a n95, not just a piece of cloth....
Many people say "I'll wear one although I don't believe they actually do anything", many remarkable events have happened in history with just going along with a very entitled vocal few. So very very few are worn according to the guidance, it's like a bad joke, peer pressure and the open want to virtue signal 'I'm a nice person, we're all in this together' is what keeps the fear factor up there.
Last year with no vaccine and more isolation the death rate still did not go higher than in 2003. This last year has seen the biggest transfer of wealth in human history ( to the clown, I have no wealth envy, I'm doing well thankyou), the biggest pandemic is profit driven fear. Fear and bad news is a business model that keeps the rich rich and richer. Even if you are willing to send your child to school in a mask, at least tell them how to wear one by the guidance, instead 99% are wearing a single use mask for eight hours, but at least it shows the parents are such nice people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I really think it's a mistake and that we should have to wear masks for the foreseeable. I hate wearing them because my glasses always steam up but with cases on the rise again, it doesn't make sense to stop wearing them. Just my opinion "
JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY
doesn't mean you have to stop wearing your mask it's your choice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The best is a fat man having his fag , Just above his chin nappy and shouting at a woman with young children to put on a mask. What a nice person....... He's obviously been so concerned over the last year that he didn't start losing weight and stop smoking, eating his delivered takeaway with extra mayo. But and here's the big butt, he does wear a mask, although mostly nestling under one of his chins, claps for the nhs and shouts at women for not wearing a mask (feels that bigger men than himself, someone else will tell them) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probably yes, i will stop wearing one.
I will still carry one around within reach so in the car or bag,
I will access the situation as to where i am going, so for example i would still think of putting a mask on to enter a hospital or the local surgery, if i had a cold or cough i would consider wearing one so am not spluttering particles over everyone if i was in a shop.
Some circumstances even now though are ridiculous like having to put a mask on to enter a restaurant and then promptly removing it when sitting down.
Hopefully this will all make people think a little bit more about things rather than just blithely returning to how it was.
Yes I agree it depends on the situation.
We have been on trains a lot recently and on a number of occasions been the only people in the carriage but its still a legal requirement to wear one. "
I was surprised how the mask wearers were the minority |
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"I don't and won't wear one. When I wear one for work (dust) I have no problem with it, but at least a n95, not just a piece of cloth....
Many people say "I'll wear one although I don't believe they actually do anything", many remarkable events have happened in history with just going along with a very entitled vocal few. So very very few are worn according to the guidance, it's like a bad joke, peer pressure and the open want to virtue signal 'I'm a nice person, we're all in this together' is what keeps the fear factor up there.
Last year with no vaccine and more isolation the death rate still did not go higher than in 2003. This last year has seen the biggest transfer of wealth in human history ( to the clown, I have no wealth envy, I'm doing well thankyou), the biggest pandemic is profit driven fear. Fear and bad news is a business model that keeps the rich rich and richer. Even if you are willing to send your child to school in a mask, at least tell them how to wear one by the guidance, instead 99% are wearing a single use mask for eight hours, but at least it shows the parents are such nice people."
The masks are complete nonsense.
If people think they make any difference, they’re more stupid than they look wearing one.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'll not stop wearing them for a long time yet. I like them, apart from the time I said hello to my friend at the shop only to realise my friend had a doppelganger from mask up. I felt like such a tit |
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"I don't and won't wear one. When I wear one for work (dust) I have no problem with it, but at least a n95, not just a piece of cloth....
Many people say "I'll wear one although I don't believe they actually do anything", many remarkable events have happened in history with just going along with a very entitled vocal few. So very very few are worn according to the guidance, it's like a bad joke, peer pressure and the open want to virtue signal 'I'm a nice person, we're all in this together' is what keeps the fear factor up there.
Last year with no vaccine and more isolation the death rate still did not go higher than in 2003. This last year has seen the biggest transfer of wealth in human history ( to the clown, I have no wealth envy, I'm doing well thankyou), the biggest pandemic is profit driven fear. Fear and bad news is a business model that keeps the rich rich and richer. Even if you are willing to send your child to school in a mask, at least tell them how to wear one by the guidance, instead 99% are wearing a single use mask for eight hours, but at least it shows the parents are such nice people.
The masks are complete nonsense.
If people think they make any difference, they’re more stupid than they look wearing one.
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Not true proper masks are effective flimsy bits of cloth with holes to put ears in a rubbish.. Unfortunately too many people wear those! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Masks may be dropped from needing to be worn.
If so. Are you dropping wearing yours?
Ill be keeping it on in supermarkets, school, and transport but not in the pub or cinema "
Why just in those places?
What would you define as a proper mask? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To my shame I am the sort of person that wears a mask, then folds it up into my back pocket, in and out multiple times a day. It does feel like it is worn for appearences sake only. It will be nice not to be required to wear it anymore, I may still in certain circumstances. |
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"I really think it's a mistake and that we should have to wear masks for the foreseeable. I hate wearing them because my glasses always steam up but with cases on the rise again, it doesn't make sense to stop wearing them. Just my opinion "
Anti fog nose clip. Works surprisingly well for any cloth base mask that you can feed into it.
Only £5 from amazon.
Regarding the thread, yes, the masks should be to stay until it is a cultural norm when shopping etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't and won't wear one. When I wear one for work (dust) I have no problem with it, but at least a n95, not just a piece of cloth....
Many people say "I'll wear one although I don't believe they actually do anything", many remarkable events have happened in history with just going along with a very entitled vocal few. So very very few are worn according to the guidance, it's like a bad joke, peer pressure and the open want to virtue signal 'I'm a nice person, we're all in this together' is what keeps the fear factor up there.
Last year with no vaccine and more isolation the death rate still did not go higher than in 2003. This last year has seen the biggest transfer of wealth in human history ( to the clown, I have no wealth envy, I'm doing well thankyou), the biggest pandemic is profit driven fear. Fear and bad news is a business model that keeps the rich rich and richer. Even if you are willing to send your child to school in a mask, at least tell them how to wear one by the guidance, instead 99% are wearing a single use mask for eight hours, but at least it shows the parents are such nice people.
The masks are complete nonsense.
If people think they make any difference, they’re more stupid than they look wearing one.
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I don’t think anyone who wears a mask is the least bit concerned about their appearance in the grand scheme of things. So it’s a bit silly to say they look stupid and think that they’ll care for your derogatory opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i will be wearing masks for a long time yet, i have a week imune system and despite having had 3 jabs, maybe needing a 4th, waiting for blood test results, so in my case its not worth the risk to not wear one, if i caught covid it would almost certainly kill me, so looking abit daft really isnt important |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't and won't wear one. When I wear one for work (dust) I have no problem with it, but at least a n95, not just a piece of cloth....
Many people say "I'll wear one although I don't believe they actually do anything", many remarkable events have happened in history with just going along with a very entitled vocal few. So very very few are worn according to the guidance, it's like a bad joke, peer pressure and the open want to virtue signal 'I'm a nice person, we're all in this together' is what keeps the fear factor up there.
Last year with no vaccine and more isolation the death rate still did not go higher than in 2003. This last year has seen the biggest transfer of wealth in human history ( to the clown, I have no wealth envy, I'm doing well thankyou), the biggest pandemic is profit driven fear. Fear and bad news is a business model that keeps the rich rich and richer. Even if you are willing to send your child to school in a mask, at least tell them how to wear one by the guidance, instead 99% are wearing a single use mask for eight hours, but at least it shows the parents are such nice people.
The masks are complete nonsense.
If people think they make any difference, they’re more stupid than they look wearing one.
I don’t think anyone who wears a mask is the least bit concerned about their appearance in the grand scheme of things. So it’s a bit silly to say they look stupid and think that they’ll care for your derogatory opinion."
My opinion was not derogatory, the latter one was. |
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By *ohnj21Man
over a year ago
Leeds |
"i will be wearing masks for a long time yet, i have a week imune system and despite having had 3 jabs, maybe needing a 4th, waiting for blood test results, so in my case its not worth the risk to not wear one, if i caught covid it would almost certainly kill me, so looking abit daft really isnt important "
Dad people e ignore people in your situation |
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By *nfin8yWoman
over a year ago
Newcastle-under-Lyme |
I will probably have to wear one at work for most of the day (hospital). If it is required for entry to certain businesses then i will wear one. I don’t use public transport currently but if I needed to then I would wear one. Other than that if social distancing is possible I may not wear it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ll be wearing mine.
I’ll also expect friends and family that want a cuddle with my baby to wash hands and wear a mask as I want to protect him from colds and flu as well as covid |
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Masks are not necessary but testing is. You’re going to a club to meet strangers. Don’t you think testing before entry should be compulsory. My partner currently has covid after visiting a club on a social night. Only takes one kiss and he was infected. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i will be wearing masks for a long time yet, i have a week imune system and despite having had 3 jabs, maybe needing a 4th, waiting for blood test results, so in my case its not worth the risk to not wear one, if i caught covid it would almost certainly kill me, so looking abit daft really isnt important "
You realise a mask worn by you protects other people? It does nothing to protect you.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i will be wearing masks for a long time yet, i have a week imune system and despite having had 3 jabs, maybe needing a 4th, waiting for blood test results, so in my case its not worth the risk to not wear one, if i caught covid it would almost certainly kill me, so looking abit daft really isnt important
You realise a mask worn by you protects other people? It does nothing to protect you.."
well maybe people should think of others then if that is the case but anyway its better than nothing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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On the plus size we have never had any colds or flu in the last year and a half. Is any of this down to the wearing masks?
We will probably wear them in the short term as and when we believe it correct to do so and see how things go.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't and won't wear one. When I wear one for work (dust) I have no problem with it, but at least a n95, not just a piece of cloth....
Many people say "I'll wear one although I don't believe they actually do anything", many remarkable events have happened in history with just going along with a very entitled vocal few. So very very few are worn according to the guidance, it's like a bad joke, peer pressure and the open want to virtue signal 'I'm a nice person, we're all in this together' is what keeps the fear factor up there.
Last year with no vaccine and more isolation the death rate still did not go higher than in 2003. This last year has seen the biggest transfer of wealth in human history ( to the clown, I have no wealth envy, I'm doing well thankyou), the biggest pandemic is profit driven fear. Fear and bad news is a business model that keeps the rich rich and richer. Even if you are willing to send your child to school in a mask, at least tell them how to wear one by the guidance, instead 99% are wearing a single use mask for eight hours, but at least it shows the parents are such nice people.
The masks are complete nonsense.
If people think they make any difference, they’re more stupid than they look wearing one.
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I wear a hood to play in...
The mask is nothing! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Masks are not necessary but testing is. You’re going to a club to meet strangers. Don’t you think testing before entry should be compulsory. My partner currently has covid after visiting a club on a social night. Only takes one kiss and he was infected."
Totally agree 100% |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies |
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"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies "
What does the government have to gain from people dieing? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Don't think they'll do much good if vast majority stop wearing them.
As I understand it, the mask was to limit virus spreading outwards rather than as protection against inhaling virus.
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Yep, a point many seemed to miss.
It was to catch large aerosolised droplets from coughing or sneezing, which an immediate physical barrier in front of your face will be relatively effective at and more effective the higher its filtration/number of layers.
It would always be less effective on the inhalation side as pretty much anything widely available wouldn’t be airtight.
It was restriction at source, not at target. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
The benefits of wearing a mask not only protects the person wearing it but those around thus limiting further infection and the mask stops you breathing in the pollution, fumes, the particles that gives you a stuffy nose to headache and under the weather feeling if you have ever blown your nose after painting it's similar to this that builds up throughout the breathing apparatus which in turn helps to clog adding further health issues |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies
What does the government have to gain from people dieing?"
Fees, expenses, paying money out given circumstances plus if own anything it goes straight to the government if their is no will if the government pays your rent if it's capped list goes on |
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"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies
What does the government have to gain from people dieing?
Fees, expenses, paying money out given circumstances plus if own anything it goes straight to the government if their is no will if the government pays your rent if it's capped list goes on "
Sorry but that is complete rubbish. There are literally dozens of scenarios for someone dying right from a pauper with nothing and no assets through to a billionaire with a will and family.
And if there is no will it does not necessarily mean that the government get everything. In fact it is rarely the case as there tends to be a relative, however distant, to claim the estate.
If you take the average working person who pays income tax, plus taxes on everything else such as fuel as an example. They die and leave everything to their partner. There is no tax to pay and now you’re not paying any tax because you’re deceased.
Also it used to be said that the cost to the nhs to treat smokers was less than the tax they had raised by smoking.
So generally, but obviously not in every scenario, I would say that you’re wrong
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies
What does the government have to gain from people dieing?
Fees, expenses, paying money out given circumstances plus if own anything it goes straight to the government if their is no will if the government pays your rent if it's capped list goes on
Sorry but that is complete rubbish. There are literally dozens of scenarios for someone dying right from a pauper with nothing and no assets through to a billionaire with a will and family.
And if there is no will it does not necessarily mean that the government get everything. In fact it is rarely the case as there tends to be a relative, however distant, to claim the estate.
If you take the average working person who pays income tax, plus taxes on everything else such as fuel as an example. They die and leave everything to their partner. There is no tax to pay and now you’re not paying any tax because you’re deceased.
Also it used to be said that the cost to the nhs to treat smokers was less than the tax they had raised by smoking.
So generally, but obviously not in every scenario, I would say that you’re wrong
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Not mentioning the Government has spent around 299 billion to fight covid and protect the economy from April 2020 to April 2021.
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies
What does the government have to gain from people dieing?
Fees, expenses, paying money out given circumstances plus if own anything it goes straight to the government if their is no will if the government pays your rent if it's capped list goes on
Sorry but that is complete rubbish. There are literally dozens of scenarios for someone dying right from a pauper with nothing and no assets through to a billionaire with a will and family.
And if there is no will it does not necessarily mean that the government get everything. In fact it is rarely the case as there tends to be a relative, however distant, to claim the estate.
If you take the average working person who pays income tax, plus taxes on everything else such as fuel as an example. They die and leave everything to their partner. There is no tax to pay and now you’re not paying any tax because you’re deceased.
Also it used to be said that the cost to the nhs to treat smokers was less than the tax they had raised by smoking.
So generally, but obviously not in every scenario, I would say that you’re wrong
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It's all circumstantial how many are that close who still classify others as family and how many actually have had a will written and even if they have it could be written to go to the PDSA or similar their is no guarantee and I'm far from being wrong but I'll let you think so because I'm good |
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Yes, will continue to wear a mask in public. And even if there was no Covid, I would still continue to wear.
Why ?
Because I like the idea of politeness and concern for others welfare like they practice in many Asian countries with habitual mask-wearing.
It's just simply nicer not to have people cough and splutter all over you, nor do the same to them in return. We've had 15 months to get used to this and it's second nature now for many.
Haven't had a cold in over 15 months.
Haven't made any one else sick either.
Win-Win.
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies
What does the government have to gain from people dieing?
Fees, expenses, paying money out given circumstances plus if own anything it goes straight to the government if their is no will if the government pays your rent if it's capped list goes on
Sorry but that is complete rubbish. There are literally dozens of scenarios for someone dying right from a pauper with nothing and no assets through to a billionaire with a will and family.
And if there is no will it does not necessarily mean that the government get everything. In fact it is rarely the case as there tends to be a relative, however distant, to claim the estate.
If you take the average working person who pays income tax, plus taxes on everything else such as fuel as an example. They die and leave everything to their partner. There is no tax to pay and now you’re not paying any tax because you’re deceased.
Also it used to be said that the cost to the nhs to treat smokers was less than the tax they had raised by smoking.
So generally, but obviously not in every scenario, I would say that you’re wrong
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Plus balance the NHS it's free so regardless of the type of treatment needed they all carry a cost you only have to look at the reason for travel insurance should a person need medical assistant the cost all adds up and isn't cheap it's lucky because of the NHS if their was only a private sector more people would die because they couldn't afford |
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"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies
What does the government have to gain from people dieing?
Fees, expenses, paying money out given circumstances plus if own anything it goes straight to the government if their is no will if the government pays your rent if it's capped list goes on
Sorry but that is complete rubbish. There are literally dozens of scenarios for someone dying right from a pauper with nothing and no assets through to a billionaire with a will and family.
And if there is no will it does not necessarily mean that the government get everything. In fact it is rarely the case as there tends to be a relative, however distant, to claim the estate.
If you take the average working person who pays income tax, plus taxes on everything else such as fuel as an example. They die and leave everything to their partner. There is no tax to pay and now you’re not paying any tax because you’re deceased.
Also it used to be said that the cost to the nhs to treat smokers was less than the tax they had raised by smoking.
So generally, but obviously not in every scenario, I would say that you’re wrong
It's all circumstantial how many are that close who still classify others as family and how many actually have had a will written and even if they have it could be written to go to the PDSA or similar their is no guarantee and I'm far from being wrong but I'll let you think so because I'm good "
Why do you think you have to be close to someone in your family to claim their estate?
Plus if you left something to charity it’s not taxable so how would the government benefit from it? |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies
What does the government have to gain from people dieing?
Fees, expenses, paying money out given circumstances plus if own anything it goes straight to the government if their is no will if the government pays your rent if it's capped list goes on
Sorry but that is complete rubbish. There are literally dozens of scenarios for someone dying right from a pauper with nothing and no assets through to a billionaire with a will and family.
And if there is no will it does not necessarily mean that the government get everything. In fact it is rarely the case as there tends to be a relative, however distant, to claim the estate.
If you take the average working person who pays income tax, plus taxes on everything else such as fuel as an example. They die and leave everything to their partner. There is no tax to pay and now you’re not paying any tax because you’re deceased.
Also it used to be said that the cost to the nhs to treat smokers was less than the tax they had raised by smoking.
So generally, but obviously not in every scenario, I would say that you’re wrong
It's all circumstantial how many are that close who still classify others as family and how many actually have had a will written and even if they have it could be written to go to the PDSA or similar their is no guarantee and I'm far from being wrong but I'll let you think so because I'm good
Why do you think you have to be close to someone in your family to claim their estate?
Plus if you left something to charity it’s not taxable so how would the government benefit from it?"
No will a will only gives another an entitlement if theirs no will which is available for any person to setup it's gone.
I no it's not taxable I was making a point doesn't automatically mean another family member would get anything which is what you are claiming |
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"I really think it's a mistake and that we should have to wear masks for the foreseeable. I hate wearing them because my glasses always steam up but with cases on the rise again, it doesn't make sense to stop wearing them. Just my opinion "
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Just a view not a 'WE MUST'.
Think in enclosed areas, shops, public transport, etc, it's a good idea to continue until this virus is really under better control in the world.
It's still to easy for it to spread & then there's still possibility of further mutations. As frustrating & annoying as mask wearing can be, would rather play safe for a little longer. |
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I will not be wearing one when we don't have to, it will not stop someone passing the virus to me, and if I get it, well the odds aren't good for me, being clinically vulnerable, a good dose of flu could kill me anyway so if I get it I'm probably dead, so I won't be passing it on, but that's just the way it is. |
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I’d love not to wear one. I appreciate it could be psychological with me, but after about an hour of wearing mine, it feels like it gets harder to breathe, like when you put your head in a pillow kind of feeling ?!?
Thankfully it’s enough time to do my weekly shop.
Each to their own, so won’t judge others if they want to wear theirs (plus there are some really funky ones I keep seeing) |
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over a year ago
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"I really think it's a mistake and that we should have to wear masks for the foreseeable. I hate wearing them because my glasses always steam up but with cases on the rise again, it doesn't make sense to stop wearing them. Just my opinion "
+1. I'm going to continue to wear mine. It's an annoyance for sure, but I think Covid-19 would be more so. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Masks can be scrapped from 19th July..I may wear mine in very crowded places, but that protects others, not myself."
See .. I’m confused..
It’s interesting that witty and valance both said that they would both still wearing masks in certain situation like crowded indoor spaces, but then why open up everywhere with no capacity restrictions
Like people are going to go to nightclubs and wear masks? That is the scientist moving away from the politicians….
I think all places should be allowed to open.. it’s the capacity thing that worries me! I can imagine that there are going to be loads of people who end up getting self isolation alerts
Also they are lifting the individual mandate to wear masks… does that mean that businesses can still demand you wear on on their premises… is so you are opening up a whole can of worms
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Masks can be scrapped from 19th July..I may wear mine in very crowded places, but that protects others, not myself.
See .. I’m confused..
It’s interesting that witty and valance both said that they would both still wearing masks in certain situation like crowded indoor spaces, but then why open up everywhere with no capacity restrictions
Like people are going to go to nightclubs and wear masks? That is the scientist moving away from the politicians….
I think all places should be allowed to open.. it’s the capacity thing that worries me! I can imagine that there are going to be loads of people who end up getting self isolation alerts
Also they are lifting the individual mandate to wear masks… does that mean that businesses can still demand you wear on on their premises… is so you are opening up a whole can of worms
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Private entities like Manchester Tram, can impose whatever restrictions they like. However, it will be uo to them to police such restrictions. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Masks can be scrapped from 19th July..I may wear mine in very crowded places, but that protects others, not myself.
See .. I’m confused..
It’s interesting that witty and valance both said that they would both still wearing masks in certain situation like crowded indoor spaces, but then why open up everywhere with no capacity restrictions
Like people are going to go to nightclubs and wear masks? That is the scientist moving away from the politicians….
I think all places should be allowed to open.. it’s the capacity thing that worries me! I can imagine that there are going to be loads of people who end up getting self isolation alerts
Also they are lifting the individual mandate to wear masks… does that mean that businesses can still demand you wear on on their premises… is so you are opening up a whole can of worms
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They are hoping we will be sensible and make a choice to wear them in certain situations..I would think that businesses can still demand we wear them..but probably won't enforce it.. |
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By *issusWoman
over a year ago
Belfast |
"Weak government caved into the anti vaccine brigade.
Believing them speaking for the majority when in fact they have only represent themselves."
Are you sure that it wasn't some questionable generalised doomsday scenario modules that they have caved into?
Majority of the adult population are vaxed. Scaremongering worked! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm going to continue wearing mine as the numbers are increasing and it was pointed out their main concern the delta virus but just like before oh well we had to see what happens and loads of people died and it'll be the same again the government doesn't care what happens because they actually gain more if anyone dies
What does the government have to gain from people dieing?
Fees, expenses, paying money out given circumstances plus if own anything it goes straight to the government if their is no will if the government pays your rent if it's capped list goes on
Sorry but that is complete rubbish. There are literally dozens of scenarios for someone dying right from a pauper with nothing and no assets through to a billionaire with a will and family.
And if there is no will it does not necessarily mean that the government get everything. In fact it is rarely the case as there tends to be a relative, however distant, to claim the estate.
If you take the average working person who pays income tax, plus taxes on everything else such as fuel as an example. They die and leave everything to their partner. There is no tax to pay and now you’re not paying any tax because you’re deceased.
Also it used to be said that the cost to the nhs to treat smokers was less than the tax they had raised by smoking.
So generally, but obviously not in every scenario, I would say that you’re wrong
Plus balance the NHS it's free so regardless of the type of treatment needed they all carry a cost you only have to look at the reason for travel insurance should a person need medical assistant the cost all adds up and isn't cheap it's lucky because of the NHS if their was only a private sector more people would die because they couldn't afford"
The NHS is not free... |
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"I really think it's a mistake and that we should have to wear masks for the foreseeable. I hate wearing them because my glasses always steam up but with cases on the rise again, it doesn't make sense to stop wearing them. Just my opinion "
I agree, I dont stay in England but shall continue to wear a mask when on public transport or in shops etc.
Cases are predicted to rise to 50,000 a day in England and the PM still wants to drop the social distancing rules etc
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"No isolation from amber countries was a winner for me
Good bye masks, hello sunny holidays. I don't even care anymore
Mrs C
Ooh..I missed that one, when does that start?"
It’s not!…. It’s apparently being considered… announcement may come at end of week if it is going to happen |
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"No isolation from amber countries was a winner for me
Good bye masks, hello sunny holidays. I don't even care anymore
Mrs C
Ooh..I missed that one, when does that start?
It’s not!…. It’s apparently being considered… announcement may come at end of week if it is going to happen "
Grant Shapps is going to make the announcement as he is transport secretary, just like Gavin Williamson is going make the announcement re school bubbles. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"No isolation from amber countries was a winner for me
Good bye masks, hello sunny holidays. I don't even care anymore
Mrs C
Ooh..I missed that one, when does that start?
It’s not!…. It’s apparently being considered… announcement may come at end of week if it is going to happen "
Thanks Fabio |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"No isolation from amber countries was a winner for me
Good bye masks, hello sunny holidays. I don't even care anymore
Mrs C
Ooh..I missed that one, when does that start?
It’s not!…. It’s apparently being considered… announcement may come at end of week if it is going to happen
Grant Shapps is going to make the announcement as he is transport secretary, just like Gavin Williamson is going make the announcement re school bubbles."
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"No isolation from amber countries was a winner for me
Good bye masks, hello sunny holidays. I don't even care anymore
Mrs C
Ooh..I missed that one, when does that start?
It’s not!…. It’s apparently being considered… announcement may come at end of week if it is going to happen "
Unfair for under 25s who can't be double vaccinated until September |
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Where I live in the US we dropped the mask mandate on June 22nd. For me it depends on where I'm going. Public buses still require it, so obviously I wear it then. Also if I go into a business where it's hard to social distance due to the size of the building. |
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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
Derbyshire village |
I've got three kids and have had only one cold in a year. This is unheard of - schools are germ factories after all. Stricter hygiene and masks must be a factor in this.
I'll keep it. It bothers me very little, isn't stopping me doing anything and I really really hate colds. |
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"No isolation from amber countries was a winner for me
Good bye masks, hello sunny holidays. I don't even care anymore
Mrs C
Ooh..I missed that one, when does that start?
It’s not!…. It’s apparently being considered… announcement may come at end of week if it is going to happen
Unfair for under 25s who can't be double vaccinated until September"
In the same vein what about the under 18s, parents don’t have to isolate on returning, but the kids do ?
Until it’s announced none of us know the travel rules. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"I've got three kids and have had only one cold in a year. This is unheard of - schools are germ factories after all. Stricter hygiene and masks must be a factor in this.
I'll keep it. It bothers me very little, isn't stopping me doing anything and I really really hate colds." The thing is if they kept the mask wearing for schools ,shops and transport you would then have the usual people in the media and on here saying why do you have to do this when people are packed in nightclubs, theatres,pubs etc it doesnt make sense and is taking away my freedom of choice.
There is always going to be some opposition whatever the decision is thats just the way of the world and with social media these days gets lots of coverage. |
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"I've got three kids and have had only one cold in a year. This is unheard of - schools are germ factories after all. Stricter hygiene and masks must be a factor in this.
I'll keep it. It bothers me very little, isn't stopping me doing anything and I really really hate colds.The thing is if they kept the mask wearing for schools ,shops and transport you would then have the usual people in the media and on here saying why do you have to do this when people are packed in nightclubs, theatres,pubs etc it doesnt make sense and is taking away my freedom of choice.
There is always going to be some opposition whatever the decision is thats just the way of the world and with social media these days gets lots of coverage."
Masks went from our school on 17 May and bubbles went out the window this week |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
(She/ her) in Sensualityland |
"Where I live in the US we dropped the mask mandate on June 22nd. For me it depends on where I'm going. Public buses still require it, so obviously I wear it then. Also if I go into a business where it's hard to social distance due to the size of the building."
Sounds sensible to me! |
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"I've got three kids and have had only one cold in a year. This is unheard of - schools are germ factories after all. Stricter hygiene and masks must be a factor in this.
I'll keep it. It bothers me very little, isn't stopping me doing anything and I really really hate colds.The thing is if they kept the mask wearing for schools ,shops and transport you would then have the usual people in the media and on here saying why do you have to do this when people are packed in nightclubs, theatres,pubs etc it doesnt make sense and is taking away my freedom of choice.
There is always going to be some opposition whatever the decision is thats just the way of the world and with social media these days gets lots of coverage.
Masks went from our school on 17 May and bubbles went out the window this week "
Masks have gone in the senior school, but not for teachers in primary, and we’ve still got bubbles.
Our school is tightening restrictions, because is the delta variant cases rising. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I've got three kids and have had only one cold in a year. This is unheard of - schools are germ factories after all. Stricter hygiene and masks must be a factor in this.
I'll keep it. It bothers me very little, isn't stopping me doing anything and I really really hate colds.The thing is if they kept the mask wearing for schools ,shops and transport you would then have the usual people in the media and on here saying why do you have to do this when people are packed in nightclubs, theatres,pubs etc it doesnt make sense and is taking away my freedom of choice.
There is always going to be some opposition whatever the decision is thats just the way of the world and with social media these days gets lots of coverage.
Masks went from our school on 17 May and bubbles went out the window this week
Masks have gone in the senior school, but not for teachers in primary, and we’ve still got bubbles.
Our school is tightening restrictions, because is the delta variant cases rising." You know, I think that also sounds really sensible to respond locally to the actual needs and requirements rather than a "one fits all" = "All masks binned" approach. |
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"I've got three kids and have had only one cold in a year. This is unheard of - schools are germ factories after all. Stricter hygiene and masks must be a factor in this.
I'll keep it. It bothers me very little, isn't stopping me doing anything and I really really hate colds.The thing is if they kept the mask wearing for schools ,shops and transport you would then have the usual people in the media and on here saying why do you have to do this when people are packed in nightclubs, theatres,pubs etc it doesnt make sense and is taking away my freedom of choice.
There is always going to be some opposition whatever the decision is thats just the way of the world and with social media these days gets lots of coverage.
Masks went from our school on 17 May and bubbles went out the window this week
Masks have gone in the senior school, but not for teachers in primary, and we’ve still got bubbles.
Our school is tightening restrictions, because is the delta variant cases rising.You know, I think that also sounds really sensible to respond locally to the actual needs and requirements rather than a "one fits all" = "All masks binned" approach. "
Agree local approach rather than one fits all. We’ve had our first case of virus this year, the child is at home and every pupil and teacher is doing daily lft tests, if negative go to school. Such a more sensible approach than the 10 day stay at home |
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"I've got three kids and have had only one cold in a year. This is unheard of - schools are germ factories after all. Stricter hygiene and masks must be a factor in this.
I'll keep it. It bothers me very little, isn't stopping me doing anything and I really really hate colds.The thing is if they kept the mask wearing for schools ,shops and transport you would then have the usual people in the media and on here saying why do you have to do this when people are packed in nightclubs, theatres,pubs etc it doesnt make sense and is taking away my freedom of choice.
There is always going to be some opposition whatever the decision is thats just the way of the world and with social media these days gets lots of coverage.
Masks went from our school on 17 May and bubbles went out the window this week
Masks have gone in the senior school, but not for teachers in primary, and we’ve still got bubbles.
Our school is tightening restrictions, because is the delta variant cases rising.You know, I think that also sounds really sensible to respond locally to the actual needs and requirements rather than a "one fits all" = "All masks binned" approach.
Agree local approach rather than one fits all. We’ve had our first case of virus this year, the child is at home and every pupil and teacher is doing daily lft tests, if negative go to school. Such a more sensible approach than the 10 day stay at home "
I agree. Senior school child had to test every day now for 7 days, as his year group is rife with it. |
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