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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July? |
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"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?"
I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?
Or is it?
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over a year ago
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Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home. |
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home."
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here. |
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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?
I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?
Or is it?
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I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things. |
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"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?
I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?
Or is it?
I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things."
Yes, I think that's true |
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"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?
I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?
Or is it?
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To be accurate, swinging clubs and adult venues were not named separately in any of the guidelines. They are following the guidance for "private members clubs" which is the same as nightclubs.
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PM says extra precautions may remain after July 19 lockdown lifting
https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/RWa3PB
Sent via @updayUK
So not ending all restrictions on July 19th, no word on what these extra precautions are though? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?
I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?
Or is it?
I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things."
Thats my understanding.
I think swinging clubs come under private members clubs for licensing but as far a covid restrictions are concerned come under the same rules as any late night venue. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"PM says extra precautions may remain after July 19 lockdown lifting
https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/RWa3PB
Sent via @updayUK
So not ending all restrictions on July 19th, no word on what these extra precautions are though?"
I strongly suspect that it will evolve face coverings on public transport and foreign travel rather than number restrictions but I guess we will see. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here."
Because it's a relatively low risk to a tiny proportion of people.
The majority have been locked up for far too long already. |
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.
Because it's a relatively low risk to a tiny proportion of people.
The majority have been locked up for far too long already. "
Different set of priorities.
And definition of "locked up". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Good. It can’t come quick enough july 19th  "
I agree but I have a horrible feeling that while the government might say we can no longer have restrictions, I had an email from my doctors surgery about 2 hours ago saying that face coverings for face-to-face appointments will be required in the surgery for the foreseeable and only having telephone appointments unless absolutely necessary that you are seen face-to-face will continue until further notice.  |
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"Boris says "it is likely" Javed says "I see no reason why not". Neither of those statements are 100% yes though. "
Boris said that he could see no reason that the 21st couldn't go ahead. Look how that turned out!
They are using ambiguous language to get away with whatever they want.
This is a sham. |
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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago
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"Boris says "it is likely" Javed says "I see no reason why not". Neither of those statements are 100% yes though. "
Why would anyone believe what Johnson, javed or any of this government say ?
If his lips are moving, Bojos lying |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?
I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?
Or is it?
I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things.
Thats my understanding.
I think swinging clubs come under private members clubs for licensing but as far a covid restrictions are concerned come under the same rules as any late night venue."
Are they also governed by local council/authority regulations etc? |
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here."
And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19 |
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.
And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19 "
Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated. |
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.
And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19
Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated."
So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks |
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.
And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19
Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.
So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks "
Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.
I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.
And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19
Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.
So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks
Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.
I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do "
The numbers for double vaccinated infections are pretty big in fairness, to date the severity has proved to be minimal but as the lady previously said, Long Covid is definitely a concern.. x |
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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?
I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?
Or is it?
I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things.
Thats my understanding.
I think swinging clubs come under private members clubs for licensing but as far a covid restrictions are concerned come under the same rules as any late night venue.
Are they also governed by local council/authority regulations etc? "
I think so |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?
I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?
Or is it?
I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things.
Thats my understanding.
I think swinging clubs come under private members clubs for licensing but as far a covid restrictions are concerned come under the same rules as any late night venue.
Are they also governed by local council/authority regulations etc?
I think so"
Yes but as for covid rules that is central government but guess local councils could put local restrictions in place but highly unlikely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.
And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19
Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.
So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks
Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.
I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do
The numbers for double vaccinated infections are pretty big in fairness, to date the severity has proved to be minimal but as the lady previously said, Long Covid is definitely a concern.. x "
Only 8% of cases since February have been fully vaccinated. That's a tiny proportion.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57610998 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.
And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19
Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.
So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks
Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.
I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do
The numbers for double vaccinated infections are pretty big in fairness, to date the severity has proved to be minimal but as the lady previously said, Long Covid is definitely a concern.. x
Only 8% of cases since February have been fully vaccinated. That's a tiny proportion.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57610998"
Ermm when you consider the time span actually it’s not tiny, 8% also has no bearing on here and now. Since Delta has arrived it’s well in excess of that and at a time when the lions share of people are vaccinated. I am staunchly pro vaccination btw, it’s definitely doing a huge amount of good but there’s still some areas for concern.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.
If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.
The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.
And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19
Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.
So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks
Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.
I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do
The numbers for double vaccinated infections are pretty big in fairness, to date the severity has proved to be minimal but as the lady previously said, Long Covid is definitely a concern.. x
Only 8% of cases since February have been fully vaccinated. That's a tiny proportion.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57610998
Ermm when you consider the time span actually it’s not tiny, 8% also has no bearing on here and now. Since Delta has arrived it’s well in excess of that and at a time when the lions share of people are vaccinated. I am staunchly pro vaccination btw, it’s definitely doing a huge amount of good but there’s still some areas for concern.
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No, that 8% is specifically delta, if you read the article.
And the 'lions share' are still not vaccinated. Maybe just over 50% of adults are at least two weeks post their second jabs.
8% really is very small and shows the vaccinations are working well. There is no cause for concern in any of these figures currently. |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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I like 99% of others on here know very little except what we are fed by the media and government, however, I do understand that we have a vaccine and that it does offer some protection.
I look at it from the stand point of once we have given everybody who wants to be jabbed the vaccine, then what?
Are people on here honestly telling us that the restrictions the like of which we have had for the last 18 months must remain.
It was listening to one of the medical professionals who pop up on the BBC regular saying that now the worst of covid is over it is clear that further lockdowns and restrictions will do more harm to people's mental health than anything else. They were saying that we are going to suffer things like flu and cold pandemics in the next 2 years because we have kept people isolated from one another. Thrse are going to place yet more stress on the NHS which is now trying to catch up on all the elective surgery and other treatments that have been on hold whilst Covid was tackled.
I feel it is time for restrictions to be lifted and for individuals to take responsibility for there own health and do only those things that they feel safe with. |
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As someone else has alluded to, the fly in the ointment might be local authorities. I believe that they issue licenses for adult venues which swingers clubs are classed as. Previously when national restrictions on visiting relatives in care homes were lifted by the Government it was subject to approval at local authority level and the one when my mum lived at the time didn’t authorise the easing. Likewise, I know several people who are travelling showmen and although in theory they could reopen, local authorities weren’t letting sites or allowing events to go ahead. So in both circumstances the de-facto position was nothing had actually changed. |
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"As someone else has alluded to, the fly in the ointment might be local authorities. I believe that they issue licenses for adult venues which swingers clubs are classed as. Previously when national restrictions on visiting relatives in care homes were lifted by the Government it was subject to approval at local authority level and the one when my mum lived at the time didn’t authorise the easing. Likewise, I know several people who are travelling showmen and although in theory they could reopen, local authorities weren’t letting sites or allowing events to go ahead. So in both circumstances the de-facto position was nothing had actually changed. "
This is what I'm sure is going to happen.
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"As someone else has alluded to, the fly in the ointment might be local authorities. I believe that they issue licenses for adult venues which swingers clubs are classed as. Previously when national restrictions on visiting relatives in care homes were lifted by the Government it was subject to approval at local authority level and the one when my mum lived at the time didn’t authorise the easing. Likewise, I know several people who are travelling showmen and although in theory they could reopen, local authorities weren’t letting sites or allowing events to go ahead. So in both circumstances the de-facto position was nothing had actually changed.
This is what I'm sure is going to happen.
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Me too. |
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By *iss SinWoman
over a year ago
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"As someone else has alluded to, the fly in the ointment might be local authorities. I believe that they issue licenses for adult venues which swingers clubs are classed as. Previously when national restrictions on visiting relatives in care homes were lifted by the Government it was subject to approval at local authority level and the one when my mum lived at the time didn’t authorise the easing. Likewise, I know several people who are travelling showmen and although in theory they could reopen, local authorities weren’t letting sites or allowing events to go ahead. So in both circumstances the de-facto position was nothing had actually changed.
This is what I'm sure is going to happen.
Me too."
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