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2 Jabs deep and COVID positive

By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

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By *innie The MinxWoman over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Blimey.

Just out of interest, when did you have your last jab?

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By *lirty-CoupleCouple over a year ago

Bexley

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Did you do a second test to check the result?

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"Blimey.

Just out of interest, when did you have your last jab? "

First week of May

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Did you do a second test to check the result?"

3 lateral flows and 1 PCR

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

But you should have more rights and access to establishments ability to work in the NHS etc etc than someone that isn't vaccinated ????????

The vaccine passport makes no sense at all and this is a perfect example why

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By *sBlueWoman over a year ago

Up North

What where your symptoms

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"So it did exactly what it was supposed to do?"

That's what I was thinking, that's exactly what the vaccines we're designed to do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

Exactly what I thought, it’s job is to lessen the symptoms which it sounds like it did!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's why we should all be vaccinated. The jabs protect us. Either stops us from getting corona or like you stops you from getting sick. But we can still pass it on.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

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By *lirty-CoupleCouple over a year ago

Bexley

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

Sounds like it did it's job, what symptoms are you having please?

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"What where your symptoms "

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it. "

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does? "

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it. "

There seems to be different symptoms for the Delta variant, you could be having them

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/symptoms-delta-variant-how-differ-24347515

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?"

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?"

That's why we need the majority of people to have the vaccine, if everyone only gets mild symptoms, the amount of cases won't matter.

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By *lirty-CoupleCouple over a year ago

Bexley

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Did you do a second test to check the result?

3 lateral flows and 1 PCR"

Pretty conclusive then but there's no way of knowing how ill you might have been otherwise. The main thing is that you exercised your choice and are happy with it.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it. "

I do understand your concern, but that's why people having the vaccine is so important.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

I do understand your concern, but that's why people having the vaccine is so important. "

Sadly there won't be everyone getting the vaccine, however, that will be the chance they take as it may be them catching it from people who have the vaccine and don't realise they have covid.

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Did you do a second test to check the result?

3 lateral flows and 1 PCR

Pretty conclusive then but there's no way of knowing how ill you might have been otherwise. The main thing is that you exercised your choice and are happy with it. "

Definitely, I was so ill after the first jab. I’m happy to be feeling OK. SSP is a kick in the teeth but hey ho I’ll survive.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

I do understand your concern, but that's why people having the vaccine is so important.

Sadly there won't be everyone getting the vaccine, however, that will be the chance they take as it may be them catching it from people who have the vaccine and don't realise they have covid."

And as far as I see it, that's their choice, they know the risks and are fully entitled to make that decision and it should be without any pressure from anyone to change their minds.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

It could be a false positive - did you repeat it?

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Did you do a second test to check the result?

3 lateral flows and 1 PCR"

Haha, I would call that confirmed!

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By *evaquitCouple over a year ago

Catthorpe

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

I do understand your concern, but that's why people having the vaccine is so important. "

Consistently speak sense on these threads. Honestly not got your patience, would rather tuck into a bowl of grey paes and bacon.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

That's why we need the majority of people to have the vaccine, if everyone only gets mild symptoms, the amount of cases won't matter. "

Seems a simple enough concept

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

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"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

I do understand your concern, but that's why people having the vaccine is so important.

Sadly there won't be everyone getting the vaccine, however, that will be the chance they take as it may be them catching it from people who have the vaccine and don't realise they have covid.

And as far as I see it, that's their choice, they know the risks and are fully entitled to make that decision and it should be without any pressure from anyone to change their minds."

I think people should have a choice yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it. "
that's why masks are still required in busy settings. We still need to be careful until most have had the vaccines

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By *irthy RobMan over a year ago

Mobile

Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not really sure what the point of this post is and I can’t work out whether you’re complaining or just being objective in your analysis.

The situation you’re in can’t be surprising, surely? The vaccine isn’t 100% effective. That’s not exactly “news”.

Latest statement from the ONS:

“According to latest data from PHE, a single dose of vaccine reduces a person's chances of catching coronavirus and needing hospital treatment by about 75%, even with Delta circulating in the UK. And among people who had received the recommended two doses, the chances of catching and being hospitalised by coronavirus was reduced by more than 90%. “

Ergo: being vaccinated isn’t a guarantee you won’t catch covid. But it’ll massively improve your chances of not being hospitalised, or dying a slow and painful death.

What’s the problem with that? Or did I miss something here?

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"I’m not really sure what the point of this post is and I can’t work out whether you’re complaining or just being objective in your analysis.

The situation you’re in can’t be surprising, surely? The vaccine isn’t 100% effective. That’s not exactly “news”.

Latest statement from the ONS:

Ergo: being vaccinated isn’t a guarantee you won’t catch covid. But it’ll massively improve your chances of not being hospitalised, or dying a slow and painful death.

What’s the problem with that? Or did I miss something here?

Looks like you missed something. Just sharing my experience. Is that OK with you?

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"I’m not really sure what the point of this post is and I can’t work out whether you’re complaining or just being objective in your analysis.

The situation you’re in can’t be surprising, surely? The vaccine isn’t 100% effective. That’s not exactly “news”.

Latest statement from the ONS:

Ergo: being vaccinated isn’t a guarantee you won’t catch covid. But it’ll massively improve your chances of not being hospitalised, or dying a slow and painful death.

What’s the problem with that? Or did I miss something here?

FYI, seems there are a lot of conflicting opinions on what the vaccine does / doesn’t do. Some believe it stops transmission, some believe it prevents, some believe it lessens symptoms, some believe it reduces your chance of getting very ill, some believe we are being microchipped.

By sharing my experience, I can at the least, enlighten some. Especially those that believe it gives you immunity.

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By *ockosaurusMan over a year ago

Warwick

"Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly "

Umm.. how would it stop contraction?

It doesn't build a magic force field styling you. It allows your immune system to learn how to fight the virus, but you need to contract it for your immune system to actually fight it.

Vaccinations do not stop contraction or transmission, they just improve the immune response so the effects are lessened and reduce the chances of transmission. Different vaccines have different levels of effectiveness.

Inoculation is a general term.

Vaccination is a method of inoculation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m not really sure what the point of this post is and I can’t work out whether you’re complaining or just being objective in your analysis.

The situation you’re in can’t be surprising, surely? The vaccine isn’t 100% effective. That’s not exactly “news”.

Latest statement from the ONS:

Ergo: being vaccinated isn’t a guarantee you won’t catch covid. But it’ll massively improve your chances of not being hospitalised, or dying a slow and painful death.

What’s the problem with that? Or did I miss something here?

By sharing my experience, I can at the least, enlighten some. Especially those that believe it gives you immunity. "

The fact there are conflicting opinions are clear, people will all form different views

. But One thing that is well known about ANY vaccine is that they’re not 100% Effective. Nothing is. I repeat: I don’t get why people are surprised about it.

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"I’m not really sure what the point of this post is and I can’t work out whether you’re complaining or just being objective in your analysis.

The situation you’re in can’t be surprising, surely? The vaccine isn’t 100% effective. That’s not exactly “news”.

Latest statement from the ONS:

Ergo: being vaccinated isn’t a guarantee you won’t catch covid. But it’ll massively improve your chances of not being hospitalised, or dying a slow and painful death.

What’s the problem with that? Or did I miss something here?

By sharing my experience, I can at the least, enlighten some. Especially those that believe it gives you immunity.

The fact there are conflicting opinions are clear, people will all form different views

. But One thing that is well known about ANY vaccine is that they’re not 100% Effective. Nothing is. I repeat: I don’t get why people are surprised about it.

If you had a glance at my DM’s you’d see the overwhelming majority seem to believe they have superpowers of immunity now they’ve been vaccinated

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By *iss SinWoman over a year ago

portchester

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Poor you get well soon

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By *lik and PaulCouple over a year ago

Flagrante

"Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly "

Reduce not prevent.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on"
it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

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By *arry247Couple over a year ago

Wakefield

"Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly "

That has never been claimed for the vaccines.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

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"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least "

It isn't compulsory, so people may not be

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?"

That's why testing when people have possible symptoms is important, as is having the vaccines. The Govt don't seem to be keeping up with the way the symptoms are changing with the different variants. Stuffy nose etc is much more common with the Delta variant, loss of taste/smell is less common but the "look out" symptoms haven't changed.

Without the vaccine, you might be in hospital or significantly more unwell, so the vaccine has done what it needs to do. When enough people are properly vaccinated, some people being asymptomatic carriers will be less of an issue (as it is with many other disease and vaccines).

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By *leasure4leisureMan over a year ago

south

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?"

Why ?

You are not in need of hospitals

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By *eedslad69Man over a year ago

leeds

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least "

Doing the tests regularly is dangerous !. They contain a sterilizing agent on them called Ethylene Oxide which is also used in Anti-freeze. It's carcinogenic and not good people. Funny how it used to be labelled on the lateral flow tests and since people started mentioning this, they took it off !

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?"

This is precisely why everyone has access to do lft tests twice a week, so you catch those who don’t show symptoms or very little

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?"

All depends on how (a) high your viral load is, (b) how much you are sneezing out, and (c) how long you remain infectious for. If the answers are (a) lower than it would have been - seems likely because you have little symptoms, (b) not as much as you would have been - seems likely because you thought you were just sneezing with hay fever, rather than coughing your lungs out, (c) one would hope that with lower symptoms you would be fully recovered more quickly, though this remains to be seen.

If all of the above then I'd say the vaccine is a success. Cutting down your sickness, keeping you out of hospital, and making the total of (amount of infectiousness) x (time for which infectious) lower than it would be.

What it does show though is that even double vaxxed people should still keep some LFT kits handy, and in the case of feeling any of the covid-type symptoms, even if minor, doing a test to make sure not being an unwitting carrier.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

The swabs are exposed to minute quantities of ethylene oxide to sterilise them. This is true. They are then removed from the gas and all traces are allowed to evaporate away before the swab is sealed in its packet. A much higher danger of being exposed to ethylene oxide is just having anti-freeze in your car. You will also ingest a much higher level of carcinogenic material if you stand next to somebody who is smoking a cigarette, you burn your toast, or you drink an alcoholic spirit.

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By *eedslad69Man over a year ago

leeds

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

I'm not sure about that but neither of us can prove it either way. How you do explain why they took 'Ethylene Oxide' warning off the boxes on the lateral flow test ?....the old ones had it on and the new ones don't !

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

Nothing has changed with the tests.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

On the boxes that I've got there is no warning of ethylene oxide. However on the back page of the instruction booklet it does say "sterilised with ethylene oxide". It does not say "contains ethylene oxide". Putting this in context, the bog roll that you wipe your bum with is made of bleached paper that is bleached with, well, bleach. Which contains chlorine, you know the same stuff used for gassing soldiers during the Great War. Is there any big warning notice on bog roll packets "DANGER - CHLORINE, TOXIC TO HUMANS"? Obviously a conspiracy to kill people by chlorine poisoning through the bum...

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

It isn't compulsory, so people may not be"
not compulsory but makes good common sense and many companies are now requiring it.

Not just within healthcare. I was trying to say that this highlights the need for regular testing still

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By *eedslad69Man over a year ago

leeds

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

The fact that bog roll doesn't have a chlorine warning on it doesn't make the lateral flow test any more safer. I'm just saying that the writing on the box was removed so that it didn't mention Ethylene Oxide on the new ones. And why couldn't they use alcohol ? ....that's a sterlizing agent which isn't cancer causing.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

I've just picked up my box of LTFs, delivered to my house in the post about ten days ago. The information leaflet clearly shows the symbol for "sterilised using ethylene oxide" and a symbol representing it (a box containing the characters STERILEEO) this box is present on all the swabs in the box (we have 3 remaining). Happy to PM you a picture of it.

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By *rank speakerMan over a year ago

Worcester

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

But you should have more rights and access to establishments ability to work in the NHS etc etc than someone that isn't vaccinated ????????

The vaccine passport makes no sense at all and this is a perfect example why"

Let's turn this positive? Surely this is an argument for everyone having jabs? Then so many more would be in the same situation of feeling mild symptoms instead of cluttering up the hospitals? This virus has proved as devicive as Brexit with bias and misinformation on both sides?

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

I was of the belief that it prevented serious side effects and illness, hospitalisation etc.

To become a symptomless carrier is somewhat more dangerous don’t you think?

I think that is the worry, if we don't know we have it, we could be passing it on it also highlights that people need to be doing the tests twice weekly at least

Actually… it is

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Also the date of manufacture on our box is 28/03/21.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Mum asked for a doctors appointment they said she needed to have a PCR test and that the LFT test kits at home weren’t reliable

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple over a year ago

North fife

Lft kits are 50/50. Not something advertised by our government.

However a well known fact from those in the know.

It's frightening that the gov push for this form of testing knowing this. Matt Hancock take a bow.

This case is the reason why life will never get back to normal. Passing in strains without knowledge is part of the reason we had this problem. Variants mutate, we do not fully understand these new vaccines. It's not like the smallpox vaccine with decades of research and fine tuning.

Social distancing and mask wearing will be the normal regardless of vaccination. You do not know how each individuals body has accepted the vaccine. There are people in hospital with the delta variant that have received the vaccination. The media will not focus on this as it will detract from the good work of the role out. However it is the truth.

Stay safe, please do not think that because you have a vaccine you are now immune and superman/woman you are not and still a danger to others. Indeed its even more dangerous as any small niggle could be covid.

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By *carborough_funCouple over a year ago

Scarborough

The smallpox vaccine first developed in 1796 has had the opportunity to have decades of development and fine tuning.

Probably not a very good comparison

In fact

A crap comparison

And the 50/50

Success rate of the LFT is and has been widly publicised if not by the government then by every other doom

Monger

Expecting governments to spoon feed and wipe your arse ihas contributed significantly to why we are here

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By *offee and KinksCouple over a year ago

Notts/Derby

"Also the date of manufacture on our box is 28/03/21."

What was the expiry date?

Stag

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By *heekyflickWoman over a year ago

LINCOLN

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it. "

It's an issue but doesn't help that being told it's high pollen count and more people than usual being told they have hayfever...anyone could be passing it on unknowingly...I'm just glad my work insists on lateral flows 3 x a week...hope youre feeling better soon...x

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

But you should have more rights and access to establishments ability to work in the NHS etc etc than someone that isn't vaccinated ????????

The vaccine passport makes no sense at all and this is a perfect example why"

It's incorrect to say "it makes no sense", when the evidence for the benefits of the vaccines is so strong. They're not a solitary tool, with nothing else in place and people can use tests to get up to date status.

People like the OP will have been less infectious, which is good for us all.

They might have been useful to help to open up some of our society more quickly but that horse has bolted.

Foreign governments will want them for travel through

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By *orty-coupleCouple over a year ago

Leyland

"That's why we should all be vaccinated. The jabs protect us. Either stops us from getting corona or like you stops you from getting sick. But we can still pass it on. "

My sister in law has had both jabs, he got covid last week and it floored her.

My Mrs has just tested poss (no jabs) and has not really floored her. I tested Neg (no jabs) but do have a cough and head ache, pretty sure I do have it, I'm also isolating.

To be has I've had worse hangovers

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

That’s the whole point of the vaccine… to mitigate the seriousness of getting it and keeping you out of the hospital!

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple over a year ago

North fife

"The smallpox vaccine first developed in 1796 has had the opportunity to have decades of development and fine tuning.

Probably not a very good comparison

In fact

A crap comparison

And the 50/50

Success rate of the LFT is and has been widly publicised if not by the government then by every other doom

Monger

Expecting governments to spoon feed and wipe your arse ihas contributed significantly to why we are here "

Where in my comment did I expect the government to do anything? Where in any press release did the lft accuracy be reported? Did you see Johnson bumble his why through a daily covid chunder and state get tested.. Oh by the way it's 50/50.

Away and stop being silly.

As for the smallpox comparison..its used a lot as an example by people who speak highly of vaccinations here in these very forums. I assume that it's now a bad example because it has been the small pox jab was fine tuned over decades versus a rushed through covid vaccine.

People make zero sense.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly "

The Primary concern of this vaccine was to lessen the seriousness of the virus if you get it… the fact that it may make it harder to catch and transmit it on is a secondary offshoot… and a bonus… but it wasn’t what it the original vaccine was designed for!

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By *ark Knight 2017Man over a year ago

Ware

Interestingly i had very similar symptoms.. Sneezing, runny nose, headache. Took antihistamines and it completely went away.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

That’s the whole point of the vaccine… to mitigate the seriousness of getting it and keeping you out of the hospital!"

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Isn't that point about all adults testing twice a week though?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly

This..

There's a general lack of knowledge in what it was designed for and it's aims, respect it could have been better corresponded by the government in simplistic language..

Part of this lack of concise information has allowed those with an agenda to spread misinformation and in some cases profit from distorted theories ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’ve had bad hay fever all week , I’ve also had both jabs

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By *ommenhimCouple over a year ago

wigan

Maybe the OP has Covid with no symptoms…. And hay fever !?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly

This..

There's a general lack of knowledge in what it was designed for and it's aims, respect it could have been better corresponded by the government in simplistic language..

Part of this lack of concise information has allowed those with an agenda to spread misinformation and in some cases profit from distorted theories .."

Exactly this... The comms has been awful all the way through this. Well apart from the first 4 weeks when the message was clear. I've said it many times. whilst a few people in these fora try and stay close to it... The rest of the population dont check gov websites daily for the latest nuance and changes. Nor should they be expected to. There is too much inaccurate, misleading, out of date, ambiguous, poorly worded information out there. We are in this for another year yet so they need to rip it up and start again.

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple over a year ago

North fife

"Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly

This..

There's a general lack of knowledge in what it was designed for and it's aims, respect it could have been better corresponded by the government in simplistic language..

Part of this lack of concise information has allowed those with an agenda to spread misinformation and in some cases profit from distorted theories ..

Totally agree. We are going round in circles.

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By *ungBlackTopMan over a year ago

salford

Delta had different symptoms the main being sneezing and rhinitis.

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By *ark Knight 2017Man over a year ago

Ware

"I’ve had bad hay fever all week , I’ve also had both jabs "

Strange how the delta variant symptoms are almost exactly the same as hay fever or a summer cold. Maybe both of these will disappear this year like flu did over the winter.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Maybe the OP has Covid with no symptoms…. And hay fever !?"

This is very possible. Hayfever is pretty bad at the moment for sufferers due to very high pollen counts.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Vaccination is supposed to prevent transmission, and contraction. This is only inoculation, not as effective, clearly

This..

There's a general lack of knowledge in what it was designed for and it's aims, respect it could have been better corresponded by the government in simplistic language..

Part of this lack of concise information has allowed those with an agenda to spread misinformation and in some cases profit from distorted theories ..

Totally agree. We are going round in circles. "

Plus we are failing to learn from the mistakes we made in the first wave, we need to be much quicker in identifying the new varients that are out there now and will continue to pop up and act much sharper in mandatory isolation for anyone coming in from said areas of concern..

Our lack of urgency is assisting the virus..

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By *rufinWoman over a year ago

notts

At some point we're going to need to talk about what 'having' covid means .... if you're not transmitting it and essentially have no symptoms, does the fact it shows up on a test mean anything much at all?

I have no idea how vaccines work really but presumably not as a force field around you where it bounces off before entering your body. I always vaguely assumed you breathe in the virus, it spreads, your body recognises it, produces the right stuff (yes really that vague) to fight it off and so ...you don't become ill. Because your body doesn't let you get overwhelmed with virus you don't get to the point where you are spreading it either as you aren't producing enough to spread it around

Is that not how they generally work?

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By *ockdownerMan over a year ago

Preston

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

But you should have more rights and access to establishments ability to work in the NHS etc etc than someone that isn't vaccinated ????????

The vaccine passport makes no sense at all and this is a perfect example why"

This is a perfect example of peoples ignorance

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it. "

Isn't this the point of doing regular lateral flow tests at home or in workplace.

As the advert says 1 in 3 people display little or no symptoms.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"At some point we're going to need to talk about what 'having' covid means .... if you're not transmitting it and essentially have no symptoms, does the fact it shows up on a test mean anything much at all?

Is that not how they generally work?

In layman's terms, you are correct about how vaccines work, yes.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

Isn't this the point of doing regular lateral flow tests at home or in workplace.

As the advert says 1 in 3 people display little or no symptoms."

And the fact that the flow test picked it up and you are aware of having covid proves without question the system works.

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By *rufinWoman over a year ago

notts

Is that not how they generally work?

In layman's terms, you are correct about how vaccines work, yes."

So doesn't that mean that at some point if you did a test for whatever the virus was you were looking for, it would be present in your body in small amounts but also that's fine as

1. your body is fighting it off right at that very moment and knows what to do

2. you aren't producing lots of virus to spread around

or is that the part i am missing? if we tested people for measles virus after exposure to measles, for example, would they test positive but have no symptoms and also not spread it?

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By *ark Knight 2017Man over a year ago

Ware

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

Isn't this the point of doing regular lateral flow tests at home or in workplace.

As the advert says 1 in 3 people display little or no symptoms.

And the fact that the flow test picked it up and you are aware of having covid proves without question the system works."

Mass testing of asymptomatic population is dangerous. No test is 100% accurate.. Say its 99% then if you test 1 million people you will get 10 thousand false positives.

It never ends.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

"
iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers"

Because it seems random as to who gets it bad, you might get it mild, a friend may get it bad

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By *ajobMan over a year ago

Newtownabbey

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers

Because it seems random as to who gets it bad, you might get it mild, a friend may get it bad"

Either that or he is related to donald(maybe im immune)trump

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers"

For you it might be very mild but you could give it to an older relative, a younger sibling, someone with underlying health issues and outcome as we've sadly seen for some has not been that ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

Isn't this the point of doing regular lateral flow tests at home or in workplace.

As the advert says 1 in 3 people display little or no symptoms.

And the fact that the flow test picked it up and you are aware of having covid proves without question the system works.

Mass testing of asymptomatic population is dangerous. No test is 100% accurate.. Say its 99% then if you test 1 million people you will get 10 thousand false positives.

It never ends. "

I'd be more worried about false negatives tbh. They arent super accutate. It's why people need to stick to guidelines even with negative results. I'm taking part in research project where some stranger danger comes and tests me once a week, I get results but always take with pinch of salt. All been negative but I never assume im safe

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Is that not how they generally work?

Up to a point…. But….even though covid may not be affecting you, and your body is fighting it..you could still be spreading the virus

The spreading/shedding phase of the virus is roughly the 1st 7-10 days, which is why the only real way to stop spreading is to isolate till you are not spreading anymore …

The vaccine may… may help to make it harder to spreading… and may… may lessen the severity… but it’s still spreading and not everyone’s immune systems may cope

At the beginning of all this roughly 1 in 10 of all those who got it, ended up in a hospital because of the severity… now the vaccine has cut that by loads

For a virus to spread, killing its host is not the most efficient way…. Ease of spread and mutation is the key…. It’s a race between vaccine stopping the virus as much as it can, and the virus finding a way around the vaccine

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers

For you it might be very mild but you could give it to an older relative, a younger sibling, someone with underlying health issues and outcome as we've sadly seen for some has not been that ..

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such is life what will be will be. We are all goin to die from something its called ...life

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers

Because it seems random as to who gets it bad, you might get it mild, a friend may get it bad

Either that or he is related to donald(maybe im immune)trump

"
Yeh mate im immune thats why I said iv got it . If I was immune I wouldn't have it would I.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers

For you it might be very mild but you could give it to an older relative, a younger sibling, someone with underlying health issues and outcome as we've sadly seen for some has not been that ..

such is life what will be will be. We are all goin to die from something its called ...life "

Yes we are but most people take the view that not knowingly putting others lives in danger of an early demise, be that driving like a complete idiot or pissed as a twat behind the wheel..

This issue requires the same mindset to not jeopardize others for whatever reasons a person might think about the virus etc..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers

For you it might be very mild but you could give it to an older relative, a younger sibling, someone with underlying health issues and outcome as we've sadly seen for some has not been that ..

such is life what will be will be. We are all goin to die from something its called ...life

Yes we are but most people take the view that not knowingly putting others lives in danger of an early demise, be that driving like a complete idiot or pissed as a twat behind the wheel..

This issue requires the same mindset to not jeopardize others for whatever reasons a person might think about the virus etc.."
its a virus you will get over it if you don't well unlucky

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By *ajobMan over a year ago

Newtownabbey

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers

Because it seems random as to who gets it bad, you might get it mild, a friend may get it bad

Either that or he is related to donald(maybe im immune)trump

Yeh mate im immune thats why I said iv got it . If I was immune I wouldn't have it would I. "

So was donald trump at the time sure....as people stated...severity in conditions in folk vary from mild to death basically.

I was refering also to your attitude toward cov-sars2 being fuck all to worry about

as a race in general alot of folk are getting sick and dying off it...you are just one of the luck ones that is dealing with it in a less severe condition than the millions that didnt have such luck....whatever way you wanna take into account how the figures are stated then thats up to you....i would say the actual worldwide figures are alot worse than have been recorded.

Stay safe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

iv not had a jab and iv got covid and it's really not that bad. So I don't see why everyone is so worried. Iv had worse hangovers

Because it seems random as to who gets it bad, you might get it mild, a friend may get it bad

Either that or he is related to donald(maybe im immune)trump

Yeh mate im immune thats why I said iv got it . If I was immune I wouldn't have it would I.

So was donald trump at the time sure....as people stated...severity in conditions in folk vary from mild to death basically.

I was refering also to your attitude toward cov-sars2 being fuck all to worry about

Stay safe

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iam safe , safe as houses thanks

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Me too! Me too!

Been blaming hayfever. Did a rapid test this morning out of curiosity. Surprised to see the two lines so I jumped online and booked and did pcr. Results in a few days.

I'm fine though. Nothing worse than my regular hayfever.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

But you should have more rights and access to establishments ability to work in the NHS etc etc than someone that isn't vaccinated ????????

The vaccine passport makes no sense at all and this is a perfect example why"

It makes perfect sense. People with breakthrough infections are unicorns. The amount of spread they would cause is tolerable. Plus, mutations apart, vaccinated people infecting vaccinated people is a lower risk.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

But you should have more rights and access to establishments ability to work in the NHS etc etc than someone that isn't vaccinated ????????

The vaccine passport makes no sense at all and this is a perfect example why

That's another statistic that it would be helpful to know isn't it?

Chances of 2 double jabbers infecting one another...

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By *ark Knight 2017Man over a year ago

Ware

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Me too! Me too!

Been blaming hayfever. Did a rapid test this morning out of curiosity. Surprised to see the two lines so I jumped online and booked and did pcr. Results in a few days.

I'm fine though. Nothing worse than my regular hayfever. "

I had same.. Took antihistamine and it went away.

Hay fever.

People get it this time of year. Peak season

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Me too! Me too!

Been blaming hayfever. Did a rapid test this morning out of curiosity. Surprised to see the two lines so I jumped online and booked and did pcr. Results in a few days.

I'm fine though. Nothing worse than my regular hayfever.

I had same.. Took antihistamine and it went away.

Hay fever.

People get it this time of year. Peak season "

Just that my lateral flow test was positive

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Me too! Me too!

Been blaming hayfever. Did a rapid test this morning out of curiosity. Surprised to see the two lines so I jumped online and booked and did pcr. Results in a few days.

I'm fine though. Nothing worse than my regular hayfever.

I had same.. Took antihistamine and it went away.

Hay fever.

People get it this time of year. Peak season

Just that my lateral flow test was positive "

Do another one and if still shows positive you need to do a PCR test ASAP.

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

Isn't this the point of doing regular lateral flow tests at home or in workplace.

As the advert says 1 in 3 people display little or no symptoms."

Yes except my work place and I believe many others have stopped this now as it’s no longer compulsory. Hence me saying has I not took my OPTIONAL test, I wouldn’t have known.

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

had** I not

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it.

I know it doesn't seem it but really that's great news, it shows the vaccine has worked

Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that I’m not unwell. Obviously. But I’m just concerned at how many people out there maybe be suffering with “hayfever”, and spreading it.

Isn't this the point of doing regular lateral flow tests at home or in workplace.

As the advert says 1 in 3 people display little or no symptoms.

Yes except my work place and I believe many others have stopped this now as it’s no longer compulsory. Hence me saying has I not took my OPTIONAL test, I wouldn’t have known."

But aren't all adults recommended to do 2 free lfts a week for just such a case?

That's what I thought the. Essage has been for a few months but I may be wrong.

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By *hoco DMan over a year ago

Clapham

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

how do we know that it was the vaccine and that she asymptomatic carrier that shows no symptoms, and the hay fever was just hay fever?

i know a few whom tested positive pre vaccine availability no symptom at all

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

how do we know that it was the vaccine and that she asymptomatic carrier that shows no symptoms, and the hay fever was just hay fever?

i know a few whom tested positive pre vaccine availability no symptom at all"

Well you won't know will you. Its like any preventive medicine... You never know if you've not got it because of the medicine or if you wouldn't have got it any way... I'm not sure what it's a problem nor necessary to distinguish. Surely the point is you got it so mildly... That's great news isn't it?

Imagine if all those travellers taking anti malarials were so worried?

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By *irtyold manMan over a year ago

barnsley

Remember jabs dont make you imune last month 42 died of indian covid and 12 of them had 2jabs.so the office for national stastistics said.so dont think you carnt get it or die because you can

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Is that not how they generally work?

In layman's terms, you are correct about how vaccines work, yes.

So doesn't that mean that at some point if you did a test for whatever the virus was you were looking for, it would be present in your body in small amounts but also that's fine as

1. your body is fighting it off right at that very moment and knows what to do

2. you aren't producing lots of virus to spread around

or is that the part i am missing? if we tested people for measles virus after exposure to measles, for example, would they test positive but have no symptoms and also not spread it?"

If you've previously been exposed to a virus, you might have traces of the viral genetic code in your body permenantly, because some viruses "hide" or integrate their genome into yours. Examples include chickenpox (varicella zoster virus), herpes viruses, HIV etc. There's emerging evidence that this could happen in SARS-CoV-2 infection too, but the evidence is currently limited (this might explain long Covid, for example).

Even if you have completely "cleared" the virus in question (i.e nothing remains), you will have measurable antibodies against that virus for a period of time. The issue there is that some antibodies are longer-lived than others and so you might not test positive for antibodies many months or years later.

Having dormant virus in your body, or a positive antibody test for a specific virus should not cause you to test positive for active infection on things like PCR or LFTs. These tests look for a specific antigen (thing your immune system recognises as foreign) and shows positive if that is present. In SARS-CoV-2, we're looking for the spike protein. This is only present in actively replicating infection, not in any dormant phase of a virus.

A good example of a virus that's common and that you never get rid of is the herpes virus that causes cold sores. Your immune system keeps the dormant virus in check for long periods, but if something happens to stress your immune system, the herpes virus can ping back into an active replication stage and you get symptoms of the cold sore.

I dunno if that answers your question?!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Remember jabs dont make you imune last month 42 died of indian covid and 12 of them had 2jabs.so the office for national stastistics said.so dont think you carnt get it or die because you can"

Some people's immune systems simply do not respond, unfortunately. This is more likely in elderly or immunocompromised people. This is why herd immunity is important, to protect those who cannot easily or effectively protect themselves.

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

how do we know that it was the vaccine and that she asymptomatic carrier that shows no symptoms, and the hay fever was just hay fever?

i know a few whom tested positive pre vaccine availability no symptom at all"

I’ve never suffered with hayfever. No antihistamine would work. I’ve still got it now but it has lessened, and I’ve stopped taking any medication for it.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Me too! Me too!

Been blaming hayfever. Did a rapid test this morning out of curiosity. Surprised to see the two lines so I jumped online and booked and did pcr. Results in a few days.

I'm fine though. Nothing worse than my regular hayfever.

I had same.. Took antihistamine and it went away.

Hay fever.

People get it this time of year. Peak season

Just that my lateral flow test was positive

Do another one and if still shows positive you need to do a PCR test ASAP."

I did pcr this morning. Isolating while I wait for result

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By *hoco DMan over a year ago

Clapham

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

how do we know that it was the vaccine and that she asymptomatic carrier that shows no symptoms, and the hay fever was just hay fever?

i know a few whom tested positive pre vaccine availability no symptom at all

I’ve never suffered with hayfever. No antihistamine would work. I’ve still got it now but it has lessened, and I’ve stopped taking any medication for it. "

I Sporadically suffer from hayfever some years I get some symptoms some years I don't get nothing at all, symptoms always differ sometimes itchy eyes, sometimes it's coughing,some times it's sneezing and never get all the symptoms at the same time may just get it just for one day sometimes a couple of days and then never get nothing else for the rest of the year, no antihistamine as ever work for me to the point where I'm convinced they're selling sugar pills

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

how do we know that it was the vaccine and that she asymptomatic carrier that shows no symptoms, and the hay fever was just hay fever?

i know a few whom tested positive pre vaccine availability no symptom at all

I’ve never suffered with hayfever. No antihistamine would work. I’ve still got it now but it has lessened, and I’ve stopped taking any medication for it.

Have exactly the same thing some years, this year though lortadine? Seems to be working for me thank god as I have been suffering so bad this year (yes I have done let test to make sure aswell lol)

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By *hoco DMan over a year ago

Clapham

lortadine is this off the shelf or from the doctor? will have to check it out hopefully will work for me too

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"lortadine is this off the shelf or from the doctor? will have to check it out hopefully will work for me too "

You can buy loratadine and certirizine from the pharmacy, no need for prescription. Both are antihistamines.

My doctor advised me to switch between the two every few months as you can become resistant apparently.

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By *yn drwgMan over a year ago

Camarthen

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does? "

it's only been 15 months!

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

it's only been 15 months!"

All the 'research' people have been doing, you'd think they'd understand by now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The vaccine doesn’t 100% stop contraction or spread but it will reduce the effects and reduce the chance of hospitalisation

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

it's only been 15 months!"

As frustrating and sad as it is. We are pretty poorly educated and communications around this episode has been shameful. If perhaps there was a comms strategy to share the key messages with everyone backed up with data as and when needed it might remove some of the lack of understanding.

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By *yn drwgMan over a year ago

Camarthen

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

it's only been 15 months!

Surely we have to educate ourselves a little rather than constantly blame others.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

it's only been 15 months!

Surely we have to educate ourselves a little rather than constantly blame others."

100 % but... Much of what we need to be educated with in this episode is only known by the scientists or health teams. The issue we have now is that people have been "educating themselves" off whatever is out there.... And much of it is I consistent, inaccurate, misrepresented, fallacious, harmful... So we need them to share it in a crystal clear, unambiguous way, backed up by accurate data. A void will be filled by any old crap. Let's not have a void.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does?

it's only been 15 months!

Actually no, it isn't anyone else's fault that people choose not to educate themselves. From the very beginning we were told the vaccines will reduce serious illness and death, they were never promised to stop transmission and luckily, they are also reducing that.

If people choose not to listen that's their fault, that they are now trying to say the vaccines aren't doing what they should is ridiculous, all the lies and misinformation, the blaming everyone else, it all needs to stop. The vaccines have been passed for use, just use them! Sometimes people have to accept that they might have to do something they don't like, in order for society to function, that's what's happening now.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The education thing I find baffling is - it's not like vaccines have been invented whole cloth for the first time. It's not like we've never seen new drugs before. Almost all of us had childhood vaccines. We're all aware of the flu jab. We've all seen news stories about new medications.

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

"The vaccine doesn’t 100% stop contraction or spread but it will reduce the effects and reduce the chance of hospitalisation

Yup just the same as most vaccines that's how they work

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"The education thing I find baffling is - it's not like vaccines have been invented whole cloth for the first time. It's not like we've never seen new drugs before. Almost all of us had childhood vaccines. We're all aware of the flu jab. We've all seen news stories about new medications."

No but I think it is the first time we've gone from nought to 100 per cent on something which is novel and in the space of a year and which has been highly politicised and... Back when kids vaccines were started... The whole anti vaxx thing didn't exist. And we were in blissful ignorance of efficacy rates and death rates and so on. Now in an age of being more informed than ever... Most of us have no fucking clue what we are looking at. And throw on the petrol of mistrust of lying politicians and the mistrust of corporate greed and corruption... Well it needed better strategy and communication and management than we've had.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Are we more informed? Or is there just more out there - not necessarily more information. More choice, more stories, more noise?

I think Elvis Presley was called in to have the polio vaccine live on TV to encourage uptake.

It is quick - and yes, communication could have helped, with public trust underpinning it. We've had neither.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

My issue will always be people spreading lies and misinformation, it's counter productive and will end up fucking things up long term. There's is absolutely no reason every country in the world would get together and agree to poison their entire population, it's utterly ridiculous to think that's even a possibility.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Are we more informed? Or is there just more out there - not necessarily more information. More choice, more stories, more noise?

I think Elvis Presley was called in to have the polio vaccine live on TV to encourage uptake.

It is quick - and yes, communication could have helped, with public trust underpinning it. We've had neither. "

Yes I should really have said... With more information than ever available at the click of a button... Not well informed.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Are we more informed? Or is there just more out there - not necessarily more information. More choice, more stories, more noise?

I think Elvis Presley was called in to have the polio vaccine live on TV to encourage uptake.

It is quick - and yes, communication could have helped, with public trust underpinning it. We've had neither.

Yes I should really have said... With more information than ever available at the click of a button... Not well informed. "

Yeah. That's the problem.

And people think a slick website with flashy editing means they've got knowledge, I suppose. It isn't that easy. They might have narrative - it isn't the same thing. (we're all guilty of it sometimes)

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

I agree and it's why I believe, to achieve success, or at the very least a better outcome, there is a need for a comms strategy that touches everyone and that provides what they need to know that at all times is backed up by 100 per cent verified and accurate data. Even on the gov website there is clearly biased interpretation or in some cases analysis that states words and you go look at the data and it is not backed up by the facts. It loses credibility immediately because it takes as much effort to make it inaccurate as it does to make it accurate. It's never too late and we are a long way from out of this... And... There may be another one along some time soon. We need to remove as much of the noise as we can.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yeah, I don't trust the government spin on the data at all. And this is the kind of thing where we really need to pull together to get through it. We can't, because we've got no meaningful foundation.

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By *oonloverWoman over a year ago

bognor regis

"I’ve had bad hay fever all week , I’ve also had both jabs

Strange how the delta variant symptoms are almost exactly the same as hay fever or a summer cold. Maybe both of these will disappear this year like flu did over the winter.

Yes strange how the symptoms change to fit exactly what is normal for the season we are in

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sounds like hayfever to me. And as a 30 year old, assuming you aren't clinically vulnerable, it's just as likely you wouldn't have had anything other than mild symptoms even without the jab. Just think yourself lucky you're not one of the hundreds of thousands who've had adverse reactions to it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What where your symptoms

Itchy, stuffy nose. Sneezing. That’s it. "

Could be the delta varient. They do say it has the symptoms of a cold.

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By *otsossieMan over a year ago

local, but not too local

Vaccines aren’t 100%.

The benefits are preventing you from becoming seriously ill, and reducing the spread by reducing the symptoms.

Your immune system still needs to wake up and fight it.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Vaccines aren’t 100%.

The benefits are preventing you from becoming seriously ill, and reducing the spread by reducing the symptoms.

Your immune system still needs to wake up and fight it. "

Yes. I think the thing that's being missed in the grand scheme is that *no* vaccine is 100% and the vast majority don't stop infection. And yet here we are, not particularly worried about measles or polio...

I think once the acute crisis is over we'll notice Covid cases like these the way we notice asymptomatic measles - not at all.

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By *ickasscoupleCouple over a year ago

Near Leeds

"Vaccines aren’t 100%.

The benefits are preventing you from becoming seriously ill, and reducing the spread by reducing the symptoms.

Your immune system still needs to wake up and fight it. "

Indeed. We've had both Jabs but Mrs caught Covid in a class at the gym. Symptoms of Head cold or sinusitis but then tested positive on her regular LFD and then confirmed on PCR.

The effect on her was minimal whilst the gym instructor, a young guy, fit as a fiddle, is in hospital on oxygen.

Reckon it goes to show the effectiveness of the vaccine. You may still catch it but the effects are dramatically reduced and she didn't spread it to me either. So either the vaccine protected me completely and/or the ability for her to spread the infection was in some way reduced.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Vaccines aren’t 100%.

The benefits are preventing you from becoming seriously ill, and reducing the spread by reducing the symptoms.

Your immune system still needs to wake up and fight it.

Indeed. We've had both Jabs but Mrs caught Covid in a class at the gym. Symptoms of Head cold or sinusitis but then tested positive on her regular LFD and then confirmed on PCR.

The effect on her was minimal whilst the gym instructor, a young guy, fit as a fiddle, is in hospital on oxygen.

A friends mother recently tested positive, she went to hospital as she was having trouble catching her breath, she was discharged after 24 hours later, the doctor told her, without a doubt, if she was unvaccinated she would have been in intensive care on a ventilator. His sister, who is unvaccinated is seriously unwell, far worse than his mother.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My brother in law had both jabs and still got it off his daughter….keep it in the family! Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My brother in law who is a senior nurse practitioner had both jabs and still got it off his daughter….keep it in the family! Lol

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By *lla_east OP Woman over a year ago

Manchester

"Sounds like hayfever to me. And as a 30 year old, assuming you aren't clinically vulnerable, it's just as likely you wouldn't have had anything other than mild symptoms even without the jab. Just think yourself lucky you're not one of the hundreds of thousands who've had adverse reactions to it. "

Who pissed in your chips?

As I’ve said, I’m OBVIOUSLY glad I’m not really ill. I was sharing my experience as there are still people that believe the vaccine can stop transmission. Calm down.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Piss and chips….is that with mushy peas or curry sauce? ??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not sure what suggested I'm not calm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Compared to perhaps being admitted into an icu in a weeks time, I’d say it’s useful.

And as your symptoms are low, your viral load will also be therefore your chance of spreading the virus reduced... also useful

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By *ringles0510Woman over a year ago

Central Borders

The vaccines were never going to stop you catch covid. It helps to prevent the worst symptoms, hospitalisations and deaths.

Thing with this virus is that most likely everyone will get it sooner or later. Because so many people got seriously ill and died, they couldn't let it run its normal course to reach herd immunity. Hence the vaccine, aim is still get herd immunity, but without too much damage x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Compared to perhaps being admitted into an icu in a weeks time, I’d say it’s useful.

And as your symptoms are low, your viral load will also be therefore your chance of spreading the virus reduced... also useful "

Help yourself, help others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My understanding is that fully vaccinated people shed less virus. So therefore less infectious although not impossible to spread it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on. "

What effects?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects? "

One who is 41 and before covid fit and healthy still (6 months on) gets very fatigued just doing daily activities she could do before with no difficulties and constant headaches.

Another who is 47 still (4 months on) can't smell anything and the taste of a lot of foods has changed for them.

Look up long covid, not dying or ending up in hospital doesn't mean not affected or fully recovered.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects?

One who is 41 and before covid fit and healthy still (6 months on) gets very fatigued just doing daily activities she could do before with no difficulties and constant headaches.

Another who is 47 still (4 months on) can't smell anything and the taste of a lot of foods has changed for them.

Look up long covid, not dying or ending up in hospital doesn't mean not affected or fully recovered. "

I have 2 friends / acquaintances suffering long covid. One 40s one 50s. One unable to return to work due to fatigue and mental acuity issues. Looks like it's finished his career.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects? "

A friend of mine, who is under the age of 50, no health conditions, ended up on a ventilator. There are children suffering with long covid, unfortunately, you can only hope you don't get severely ill if you catch it unvaccinated.

Luckily, the vaccines minimise the risk.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects? "

My sister has long covid, referred to heart clinic also occasional short term memory loss, fatigue etc..

We also know friends with long covid, it's estimated over a million in the UK across all age groups some as young as twelve..

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects?

My sister has long covid, referred to heart clinic also occasional short term memory loss, fatigue etc..

We also know friends with long covid, it's estimated over a million in the UK across all age groups some as young as twelve..

Yup my brother has been left with heart palpitations after a "mild" covid infection that floored him for 2 weeks and he was late 30s without any pre-existing health issues and he still has them now since getting covid last summer. The long term effects of covid are still being researched and I for one am glad to have been vaccinated as the short term dead arm was worth it if it stops me suffering with long covid, I hope they give your sister all the help they care and she has a speedy recovery

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects?

My sister has long covid, referred to heart clinic also occasional short term memory loss, fatigue etc..

We also know friends with long covid, it's estimated over a million in the UK across all age groups some as young as twelve..

Yes there is now a dedicated teams of medical professionals who are solely treating young people with long covid being set up around the country.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects?

My sister has long covid, referred to heart clinic also occasional short term memory loss, fatigue etc..

We also know friends with long covid, it's estimated over a million in the UK across all age groups some as young as twelve..

Ditto that it's to be avoided as much as the initial infection, cheers for that and likewise for your brother some help is there but it needs greater emphasis and resources from government to get the provision needed ..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects?

My sister has long covid, referred to heart clinic also occasional short term memory loss, fatigue etc..

We also know friends with long covid, it's estimated over a million in the UK across all age groups some as young as twelve..

Yes there is now a dedicated teams of medical professionals who are solely treating young people with long covid being set up around the country. "

It's good they are looking seriously at this, initially it was for my sister difficult to get looked at as she wasn't in the catchment area..

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects?

My sister has long covid, referred to heart clinic also occasional short term memory loss, fatigue etc..

We also know friends with long covid, it's estimated over a million in the UK across all age groups some as young as twelve..

Hopefully those resources will become available as we start to return to normality in what ever form it takes, I think there is going to be a lot of people that need help on the other side of this pandemic dealing with everything from long covid to mental health issues arising from everything people have been through.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects?

My sister has long covid, referred to heart clinic also occasional short term memory loss, fatigue etc..

We also know friends with long covid, it's estimated over a million in the UK across all age groups some as young as twelve..

Agree, big learning curve and there will need to changes to some of areas going forward..

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

"With no symptoms. Well, I thought I had hayfever.

So seemingly all the vaccine did was lessen my symptoms to the point where I had no clue I was infected. Useful.

Had I not done my (optional) test of the week I’d have been going about my life as usual under the impression I was suffering with hayfever.

Yikes.

Impossible to say how you would have felt had you not had the vaccine but as you thought your symptoms were no more than a touch of hay fever it seems to me the vaccine has done it’s job.

If she was a healthy adult under 70...its high likely she wouldve had the same result

Its also very possible she wouldn't.

I know several people in their 40's still suffering affects from covid months on.

What effects?

My sister has long covid, referred to heart clinic also occasional short term memory loss, fatigue etc..

We also know friends with long covid, it's estimated over a million in the UK across all age groups some as young as twelve..

Agree, big learning curve and there will need to changes to some of areas going forward.."

Very big learning curve, even for someone like myself that roast do well in unfamiliar social situations it was great at first as people couldn't approach me so closely but as time has gone on not being able to be social with those people I care about has been a struggle especially as one I really care about is over a hundred miles away anyway. I do wonder what changes coming out of this will bring about with the way life is lived going forward

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By *hagTonightMan over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does? "
I thought that most knew. I think alot have to do with it is how the mainstream media is not reporting everything about it, like spike protein is an interesting subject too.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"How have we got to this point and people still don't know what the vaccine actually does? I thought that most knew. I think alot have to do with it is how the mainstream media is not reporting everything about it, like spike protein is an interesting subject too."

Yes, because there is so much misinformation around. What about the spike protein do you find so interesting?

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan over a year ago

London

I had my second jab in April. Today I woke up with a sore throat. Took 2 lateral flow tests, both positive. Then went for a PCR test. Should get the results within 24/48 hours

I’ve gone from a sore throat this morning to tonight feeling like I’ve been hit by a lorry

Feeling very sorry for myself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Aren’t the majority of people in hospital suffering from covid vaccinated?

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By *ondoner1971Man over a year ago

London

Vaccine for mugs lol ??

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Aren’t the majority of people in hospital suffering from covid vaccinated?"

As has been explained probably hundreds of times, the vulnerable and elderly are most at risk of ANY illness, those are also most likely to be vaccinated. However, they can still catch covid, some may even catch it in hospital.

They might be in hospital for any number of reasons, covid may not be the reason.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Aren’t the majority of people in hospital suffering from covid vaccinated?"

From the information available no, but there are vaccinated people with the new variant yes..

The numbers since Jan clearly indicate the efficacy of the vaccines as opposed to not being vaccinated be at all, certainly for the over 50s and the vulnerable etc it's reduced deaths dramatically..

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