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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route "Obviously not a regular fab forum reader / you tuber / Karen fan.
You will get better 5G signal (assuming you have 5G device), will find that bits of ferrous metals will stick to you and will develop a compulsion to buy Microsoft products while also supporting Bill Gates worthy causes.
You will also be less able to spot Lizard people as there is a masking agent in the vaccine that renders their true appearance undetectable to anyone vaccinated.
For some reason though you can still see most other reptiles. | |||
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"Op if your slightly anxious, which is absolutely fine tell the vaccinator that. They will answer any questions you have which hopefully will reassure you.. " Look at their tongue. Is it forked?  | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route "You will likely have a tender spot on your arm for a day or two .You may also end up feeling a bit tired /hungover for a day or two. That's if your very unlucky. Other than that statistically you will be absolutely fine. I wouldn't worry too much .Put it this way your chances of getting sick or hurt are probably a lot higher on your journey to and from the vaccination centre than what will happen inside it ! Well done for stepping up btw let's hope a lot more of this age group continue to do that too. | |||
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"I had Pfizer. Very slight ache in the top of my arm on the day I had it, nothing to speak of the next day. Don’t worry yourself "i would say my arm was quite a bit worse than slight ache which surprised me (could have been vaccinators technique tbh which did feel alot like i imagine being stabbed with an epi pen when other have said they felt nothing) but even the worse version was i couldn’t sleep on it, or lift it above the elbow at all without it being really painful , and just for 24 hrs max , id say the pain level even eased off in the back half of that 24 hours no other symptoms at all | |||
"I had Pfizer. Very slight ache in the top of my arm on the day I had it, nothing to speak of the next day. Don’t worry yourself
i would say my arm was quite a bit worse than slight ache which surprised me (could have been vaccinators technique tbh which did feel alot like i imagine being stabbed with an epi pen when other have said they felt nothing)
but even the worse version was i couldn’t sleep on it, or lift it above the elbow at all without it being really painful , and just for 24 hrs max , id say the pain level even eased off in the back half of that 24 hours
no other symptoms at all "It’s not quite as bad as the Mia Wallace overdose adrenaline jab from Pulp Fiction.  | |||
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"I had Pfizer. Very slight ache in the top of my arm on the day I had it, nothing to speak of the next day. Don’t worry yourself
i would say my arm was quite a bit worse than slight ache which surprised me (could have been vaccinators technique tbh which did feel alot like i imagine being stabbed with an epi pen when other have said they felt nothing)
but even the worse version was i couldn’t sleep on it, or lift it above the elbow at all without it being really painful , and just for 24 hrs max , id say the pain level even eased off in the back half of that 24 hours
no other symptoms at all
It’s not quite as bad as the Mia Wallace overdose adrenaline jab from Pulp Fiction. "honestly it felt like i was punched at the same time as injected , the upside i guess is it was over in seconds … like once i had acknowledged the impact that just happened it was already out
also think i had a newbie as i was told after it, there are some seats over there i think you can just sit for 10 minutes or something like that which doesn’t really seem the rehearsed speech of someone who has been jabbing hundreds a day since January | |||
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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route "My daughters have both had the Pfizer jab.. one had a sore arm and had a headache the other just a sore arm.. the 2nd jab very similar results..and both either your age or younger | |||
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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route "My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you. "Absolutely right in many aspects, however also consider that if you were to get covid and inadvertently pass it on to loved ones or be in that small percentage that fall seriously ill would you regret not having it. Personally I was never concerned about getting it myself but always concerned about others not in as good health. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you. "Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you. "Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Absolutely right in many aspects, however also consider that if you were to get covid and inadvertently pass it on to loved ones or be in that small percentage that fall seriously ill would you regret not having it. Personally I was never concerned about getting it myself but always concerned about others not in as good health. "Nobody wants other people to suffer whether it's a loved one or any other person. If you get vaccinated, your chances of catching and spreading Covid reduce by a very small percentage (about 1%). The question is, would you feel just as guilty if you got the vaccine, got covid and then spreaded it to a loved one and the my got really ill ? | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Absolutely right in many aspects, however also consider that if you were to get covid and inadvertently pass it on to loved ones or be in that small percentage that fall seriously ill would you regret not having it. Personally I was never concerned about getting it myself but always concerned about others not in as good health.
Nobody wants other people to suffer whether it's a loved one or any other person. If you get vaccinated, your chances of catching and spreading Covid reduce by a very small percentage (about 1%). The question is, would you feel just as guilty if you got the vaccine, got covid and then spreaded it to a loved one and the my got really ill ?"That's nonsense  | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them. "There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
"And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid. " | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid. " | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid. "There's a variety of reasons why people have not had the vaccine. First of all, they don't know what they are putting into their body. Also, they probably think if there is nothing wrong with me, there's no need. Many people who haven't had the vaccine have looked at the stats and noticed that there has not been an increase in deaths and probably think covid as just a bad flu. They know if they catch it, they will recover....So just common sense really which is sadly, not very common Your wrong, these people are not fearful of the vaccine. This group of people are living their lives as they did before. it is the people who have been vaccinated that want to return to 'the old normal' and they are the ones that will do anything it takes. So the case is very strong not to be vaccinated. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid.
There's a variety of reasons why people have not had the vaccine. First of all, they don't know what they are putting into their body. Also, they probably think if there is nothing wrong with me, there's no need. Many people who haven't had the vaccine have looked at the stats and noticed that there has not been an increase in deaths and probably think covid as just a bad flu. They know if they catch it, they will recover....So just common sense really which is sadly, not very common Your wrong, these people are not fearful of the vaccine. This group of people are living their lives as they did before. it is the people who have been vaccinated that want to return to 'the old normal' and they are the ones that will do anything it takes. So the case is very strong not to be vaccinated."All actual evidence demonstrates the opposite of what you say. The case is incredibly strong for vaccinations . Ive had both vaccinations and my only fear is that people don’t understand how the virus spreads how it mutates and the damage it can do because they’ve not personally experienced it yet. They take their information from “research” on social media and ignore actual research. They’ve failed gcse chemistry but believe they’re epidemiologists. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid.
There's a variety of reasons why people have not had the vaccine. First of all, they don't know what they are putting into their body. Also, they probably think if there is nothing wrong with me, there's no need. Many people who haven't had the vaccine have looked at the stats and noticed that there has not been an increase in deaths and probably think covid as just a bad flu. They know if they catch it, they will recover....So just common sense really which is sadly, not very common Your wrong, these people are not fearful of the vaccine. This group of people are living their lives as they did before. it is the people who have been vaccinated that want to return to 'the old normal' and they are the ones that will do anything it takes. So the case is very strong not to be vaccinated.
All actual evidence demonstrates the opposite of what you say. The case is incredibly strong for vaccinations . Ive had both vaccinations and my only fear is that people don’t understand how the virus spreads how it mutates and the damage it can do because they’ve not personally experienced it yet. They take their information from “research” on social media and ignore actual research. They’ve failed gcse chemistry but believe they’re epidemiologists. " | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x". Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid.
There's a variety of reasons why people have not had the vaccine. First of all, they don't know what they are putting into their body. Also, they probably think if there is nothing wrong with me, there's no need. Many people who haven't had the vaccine have looked at the stats and noticed that there has not been an increase in deaths and probably think covid as just a bad flu. They know if they catch it, they will recover....So just common sense really which is sadly, not very common Your wrong, these people are not fearful of the vaccine. This group of people are living their lives as they did before. it is the people who have been vaccinated that want to return to 'the old normal' and they are the ones that will do anything it takes. So the case is very strong not to be vaccinated.
All actual evidence demonstrates the opposite of what you say. The case is incredibly strong for vaccinations . Ive had both vaccinations and my only fear is that people don’t understand how the virus spreads how it mutates and the damage it can do because they’ve not personally experienced it yet. They take their information from “research” on social media and ignore actual research. They’ve failed gcse chemistry but believe they’re epidemiologists. "A friend of mine's cousin had the vaccine and she dropped dead a week of having it. She died from a heart attack, she was young, healthy and she got the vaccine for the very reasons you describe and she's not now here to regret the decision she made to have it. When you experience something happening in front you like her family did, you don't need to research anything, neither do you need to be an epidemiologist to know that this thing can kill you.I don't know if you saw the football yesterday but a Danish player called Christian Erikson collapsed flat on his face, the medics came out, put the Defib machine on his chest and thankfully saved his life. Now, he announced on Twitter that he had the vaccination and whilst he was laid out on the floor, his Twitter was accesed and all posts that the player announced that he had the vaccine were deleted. So it obviously wasn't him that was doing it but they suddenly didn't want anyone to know that he had been vaccinated, funny that eh ?. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid.
There's a variety of reasons why people have not had the vaccine. First of all, they don't know what they are putting into their body. Also, they probably think if there is nothing wrong with me, there's no need. Many people who haven't had the vaccine have looked at the stats and noticed that there has not been an increase in deaths and probably think covid as just a bad flu. They know if they catch it, they will recover....So just common sense really which is sadly, not very common Your wrong, these people are not fearful of the vaccine. This group of people are living their lives as they did before. it is the people who have been vaccinated that want to return to 'the old normal' and they are the ones that will do anything it takes. So the case is very strong not to be vaccinated.
All actual evidence demonstrates the opposite of what you say. The case is incredibly strong for vaccinations . Ive had both vaccinations and my only fear is that people don’t understand how the virus spreads how it mutates and the damage it can do because they’ve not personally experienced it yet. They take their information from “research” on social media and ignore actual research. They’ve failed gcse chemistry but believe they’re epidemiologists.
A friend of mine's cousin had the vaccine and she dropped dead a week of having it. She died from a heart attack, she was young, healthy and she got the vaccine for the very reasons you describe and she's not now here to regret the decision she made to have it. When you experience something happening in front you like her family did, you don't need to research anything, neither do you need to be an epidemiologist to know that this thing can kill you.I don't know if you saw the football yesterday but a Danish player called Christian Erikson collapsed flat on his face, the medics came out, put the Defib machine on his chest and thankfully saved his life. Now, he announced on Twitter that he had the vaccination and whilst he was laid out on the floor, his Twitter was accesed and all posts that the player announced that he had the vaccine were deleted. So it obviously wasn't him that was doing it but they suddenly didn't want anyone to know that he had been vaccinated, funny that eh ?. "wikipedia will give you a list of 185 footballers who have died while playing , not just collapsed, died … now they do start as far back as 1889, but since it appears the only logical explanation for a fit and healthy sportsperson to take ill during a match can be a side effect of covid vaccine, should we go ahead assume that its what killed all of these players?  | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal."You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? "One of the authors (Els Toreele) of the commentary you're referring to (COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room) is on the public record saying that anti vaxxers are misrepresenting this work, that the vaccines are extremely effective, and that this misrepresentation of her work needs to stop (Twitter, 29 May 2021). I'm sure as a gesture showing your intellectual integrity and interest in evidence and health, you'll acknowledge that this is not the first time this has been debunked, and perhaps start looking at what papers actually mean rather than your agenda. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? "where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that. "I've posted his source above, and a source showing it's bollocks. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Your grasp of statistics is dreadful, evidenced by your idea of consensus and your quoted percentage. Not only that but death is not the only measurement for Covid. Long term breathing problems being one of them.
There's nothing getting away from the fact that you can get people to do anything based on fear. Even if you don't agree with it. Many people have been vaccinated because they had to (for example work reasons) but many have got the vaccine through fear, the fear of dying...these same people might tell you otherwise but that is the underrlying reason. I'm not saying everyone but many have based their decision on this alone.
And many people have not had the vaccine because of fear. Fear spread by people who have no concept of statistics or epidemiology or research. People who think that the only metric of measurement is death or life. Same people who say “well no one knows about the long term effects of the vaccine” and then pretend there are no long term effects of Covid.
There's a variety of reasons why people have not had the vaccine. First of all, they don't know what they are putting into their body. Also, they probably think if there is nothing wrong with me, there's no need. Many people who haven't had the vaccine have looked at the stats and noticed that there has not been an increase in deaths and probably think covid as just a bad flu. They know if they catch it, they will recover....So just common sense really which is sadly, not very common Your wrong, these people are not fearful of the vaccine. This group of people are living their lives as they did before. it is the people who have been vaccinated that want to return to 'the old normal' and they are the ones that will do anything it takes. So the case is very strong not to be vaccinated.
All actual evidence demonstrates the opposite of what you say. The case is incredibly strong for vaccinations . Ive had both vaccinations and my only fear is that people don’t understand how the virus spreads how it mutates and the damage it can do because they’ve not personally experienced it yet. They take their information from “research” on social media and ignore actual research. They’ve failed gcse chemistry but believe they’re epidemiologists.
A friend of mine's cousin had the vaccine and she dropped dead a week of having it. She died from a heart attack, she was young, healthy and she got the vaccine for the very reasons you describe and she's not now here to regret the decision she made to have it. When you experience something happening in front you like her family did, you don't need to research anything, neither do you need to be an epidemiologist to know that this thing can kill you.I don't know if you saw the football yesterday but a Danish player called Christian Erikson collapsed flat on his face, the medics came out, put the Defib machine on his chest and thankfully saved his life. Now, he announced on Twitter that he had the vaccination and whilst he was laid out on the floor, his Twitter was accesed and all posts that the player announced that he had the vaccine were deleted. So it obviously wasn't him that was doing it but they suddenly didn't want anyone to know that he had been vaccinated, funny that eh ?.
wikipedia will give you a list of 185 footballers who have died while playing , not just collapsed, died … now they do start as far back as 1889, but since it appears the only logical explanation for a fit and healthy sportsperson to take ill during a match can be a side effect of covid vaccine, should we go ahead assume that its what killed all of these players? "Who knows about the cause of why he collapsed yesterday. But is it not suspicious that the player announces on Twitter that he's had the vaccine, collapses on the pitch & as that's happening, his vaccine posts confirming that he had the vaccine are deleted from his Twittter. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
I've posted his source above, and a source showing it's bollocks."Thanks it’s As I thought. He’s been Randomly selecting information to support his beliefs. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
I've posted his source above, and a source showing it's bollocks.
Thanks it’s As I thought. He’s been Randomly selecting information to support his beliefs. "Mmhm. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that. "The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case "You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article. "You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks ! | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks ! "No, you've misread an article and have been shown to be wrong, and are now claiming victory over something that the article doesn't say. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that. "Are you admitting that you can't catch and spread covid if you've been vaccinated ? | |||
" You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks ! " I don't think I have seen anyone sensible on here state that the vaccine completly stops you catching covid or spreading it, I belive there has been some research that may have pointed towards the vaccine stopping or limiting the spread of the virus but I would have to see if I could find the information before saying for certain that was the case | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
No, you've misread an article and have been shown to be wrong, and are now claiming victory over something that the article doesn't say."It's not about your ego not admitting defeat. It's a simple question so I'll ask you again. If you caught and spread Covid having been vaccinated and they later died, would you feel guilty or would you not feel guilty becsuse you felt you did all you could to help others ? | |||
" You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks ! I don't think I have seen anyone sensible on here state that the vaccine completly stops you catching covid or spreading it, I belive there has been some research that may have pointed towards the vaccine stopping or limiting the spread of the virus but I would have to see if I could find the information before saying for certain that was the case" A quick Google has thrown up a number of articles stating that researchers have indeed found that the vaccines by Pfizer and Astrazenica could reduce the chances of transmitting the virus by between 40% and 60% | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks ! "A wise man once said "the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open" Throughout the Virus forum threads you've continuously spouted uncorroborated nonsense, used debunked names to justify your beliefs, failed to grasp the most fundamental understanding of Covid, totally and utterly failed to grasp the most fundamental facts regarding this vaccine and vaccines in general. Many people have given fully detailed scientific research, together with their own specialist knowledge through working in these fields. You've failed to understand a single word. You've failed to investigate any other view or possibility outside of your own purview. Your "research" is top trumps, everyone else is wrong. I'd suggest you seek help, confirmation bias exists, your mind can be opened. Stockholm syndrome exists, you can receive counselling. Unless you're in the employ of some crackpot, whackadoodle, anti vax group. In which case, spend your money wisely and ignore everything I just said. Finally, people not answering doesn't mean your "argument" wins. It's probably means we're all a little bit dumbstruck by your "beliefs" E | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal."I've had both jabs ty! But have the common sense to respect others choice! Jeez get a grip !  | |||
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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
No, you've misread an article and have been shown to be wrong, and are now claiming victory over something that the article doesn't say.
It's not about your ego not admitting defeat. It's a simple question so I'll ask you again. If you caught and spread Covid having been vaccinated and they later died, would you feel guilty or would you not feel guilty becsuse you felt you did all you could to help others ? "I'd feel guilty, because I'd hate to cause someone else's suffering, even if I'd done all I could. If you spread bollocks despite being repeatedly debunked, including citations of the article you're referring to and the author of said article saying that what you're saying is wrong, and your misinformation led to further lockdowns which made people sad, would you feel guilty? | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
A wise man once said "the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open"
Throughout the Virus forum threads you've continuously spouted uncorroborated nonsense, used debunked names to justify your beliefs, failed to grasp the most fundamental understanding of Covid, totally and utterly failed to grasp the most fundamental facts regarding this vaccine and vaccines in general.
Many people have given fully detailed scientific research, together with their own specialist knowledge through working in these fields.
You've failed to understand a single word.
You've failed to investigate any other view or possibility outside of your own purview.
Your "research" is top trumps, everyone else is wrong.
I'd suggest you seek help, confirmation bias exists, your mind can be opened.
Stockholm syndrome exists, you can receive counselling.
Unless you're in the employ of some crackpot, whackadoodle, anti vax group.
In which case, spend your money wisely and ignore everything I just said.
Finally, people not answering doesn't mean your "argument" wins.
It's probably means we're all a little bit dumbstruck by your "beliefs"
E""The author of the paper you're talking about specifically says you don't know what you're talking about" "I win! See! A paper in the Lancet!" | |||
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"Did you know the Jamaican,s have got a new vaccine called the Rasta Zeno a,two puffs of it and you don’t give a fuck ‘" | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
A wise man once said "the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open"
Throughout the Virus forum threads you've continuously spouted uncorroborated nonsense, used debunked names to justify your beliefs, failed to grasp the most fundamental understanding of Covid, totally and utterly failed to grasp the most fundamental facts regarding this vaccine and vaccines in general.
Many people have given fully detailed scientific research, together with their own specialist knowledge through working in these fields.
You've failed to understand a single word.
You've failed to investigate any other view or possibility outside of your own purview.
Your "research" is top trumps, everyone else is wrong.
I'd suggest you seek help, confirmation bias exists, your mind can be opened.
Stockholm syndrome exists, you can receive counselling.
Unless you're in the employ of some crackpot, whackadoodle, anti vax group.
In which case, spend your money wisely and ignore everything I just said.
Finally, people not answering doesn't mean your "argument" wins.
It's probably means we're all a little bit dumbstruck by your "beliefs"
E" | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
A wise man once said "the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open"
Throughout the Virus forum threads you've continuously spouted uncorroborated nonsense, used debunked names to justify your beliefs, failed to grasp the most fundamental understanding of Covid, totally and utterly failed to grasp the most fundamental facts regarding this vaccine and vaccines in general.
Many people have given fully detailed scientific research, together with their own specialist knowledge through working in these fields.
You've failed to understand a single word.
You've failed to investigate any other view or possibility outside of your own purview.
Your "research" is top trumps, everyone else is wrong.
I'd suggest you seek help, confirmation bias exists, your mind can be opened.
Stockholm syndrome exists, you can receive counselling.
Unless you're in the employ of some crackpot, whackadoodle, anti vax group.
In which case, spend your money wisely and ignore everything I just said.
Finally, people not answering doesn't mean your "argument" wins.
It's probably means we're all a little bit dumbstruck by your "beliefs"
E
"The author of the paper you're talking about specifically says you don't know what you're talking about"
"I win! See! A paper in the Lancet!""
E | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
A wise man once said "the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open"
Throughout the Virus forum threads you've continuously spouted uncorroborated nonsense, used debunked names to justify your beliefs, failed to grasp the most fundamental understanding of Covid, totally and utterly failed to grasp the most fundamental facts regarding this vaccine and vaccines in general.
Many people have given fully detailed scientific research, together with their own specialist knowledge through working in these fields.
You've failed to understand a single word.
You've failed to investigate any other view or possibility outside of your own purview.
Your "research" is top trumps, everyone else is wrong.
I'd suggest you seek help, confirmation bias exists, your mind can be opened.
Stockholm syndrome exists, you can receive counselling.
Unless you're in the employ of some crackpot, whackadoodle, anti vax group.
In which case, spend your money wisely and ignore everything I just said.
Finally, people not answering doesn't mean your "argument" wins.
It's probably means we're all a little bit dumbstruck by your "beliefs"
E
"The author of the paper you're talking about specifically says you don't know what you're talking about"
"I win! See! A paper in the Lancet!""Is this like the Inverti thread, where the manufacturers clearly state it's no good for treating Covid, but someone with no medical qualifications swears blind it does? E | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? "If my negligence led to another individuals death or serious long term illness, yes I do have the empathy with other humans to feel bad about it. It's not all about the selfish individual and there so called 'freedom' | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ?
If my negligence led to another individuals death or serious long term illness, yes I do have the empathy with other humans to feel bad about it.
It's not all about the selfish individual and there so called 'freedom'
"Give it a rest man! | |||
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"Did you know the Jamaican,s have got a new vaccine called the Rasta Zeno a,two puffs of it and you don’t give a fuck ‘" | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
No, you've misread an article and have been shown to be wrong, and are now claiming victory over something that the article doesn't say.
It's not about your ego not admitting defeat. It's a simple question so I'll ask you again. If you caught and spread Covid having been vaccinated and they later died, would you feel guilty or would you not feel guilty becsuse you felt you did all you could to help others ?
I'd feel guilty, because I'd hate to cause someone else's suffering, even if I'd done all I could.
If you spread bollocks despite being repeatedly debunked, including citations of the article you're referring to and the author of said article saying that what you're saying is wrong, and your misinformation led to further lockdowns which made people sad, would you feel guilty?"So you've admitted that even though you've had the vaccine, you can still catch and spread Covid .....I rest my case, I win, your ego loses. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
No, you've misread an article and have been shown to be wrong, and are now claiming victory over something that the article doesn't say.
It's not about your ego not admitting defeat. It's a simple question so I'll ask you again. If you caught and spread Covid having been vaccinated and they later died, would you feel guilty or would you not feel guilty becsuse you felt you did all you could to help others ?
I'd feel guilty, because I'd hate to cause someone else's suffering, even if I'd done all I could.
If you spread bollocks despite being repeatedly debunked, including citations of the article you're referring to and the author of said article saying that what you're saying is wrong, and your misinformation led to further lockdowns which made people sad, would you feel guilty?
So you've admitted that even though you've had the vaccine, you can still catch and spread Covid .....I rest my case, I win, your ego loses. "No. *If* it happened, I would feel bad. If my thoughts made unicorns and pixies cry, I would also feel bad. It's a conditional sentence. It doesn't mean that the condition is true. (My understanding is that infectiousness is significantly reduced, so I'm a lower risk than being unvaccinated) But if it makes you feel better to declare victory, then have at it. | |||
" So you've admitted that even though you've had the vaccine, you can still catch and spread Covid .....I rest my case, I win, your ego loses. " Oooo what did you win? An all expense paid trip to haventgotaclueville? | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
No, you've misread an article and have been shown to be wrong, and are now claiming victory over something that the article doesn't say.
It's not about your ego not admitting defeat. It's a simple question so I'll ask you again. If you caught and spread Covid having been vaccinated and they later died, would you feel guilty or would you not feel guilty becsuse you felt you did all you could to help others ?
I'd feel guilty, because I'd hate to cause someone else's suffering, even if I'd done all I could.
If you spread bollocks despite being repeatedly debunked, including citations of the article you're referring to and the author of said article saying that what you're saying is wrong, and your misinformation led to further lockdowns which made people sad, would you feel guilty?
So you've admitted that even though you've had the vaccine, you can still catch and spread Covid .....I rest my case, I win, your ego loses.
No. *If* it happened, I would feel bad.
If my thoughts made unicorns and pixies cry, I would also feel bad.
It's a conditional sentence. It doesn't mean that the condition is true. (My understanding is that infectiousness is significantly reduced, so I'm a lower risk than being unvaccinated)
But if it makes you feel better to declare victory, then have at it."You might be right that you're at at a lower risk of catching Covid but that doesn't mean you can't catch it at all. So to spread Covid you have to meet the condition of catching it first which we've established you can. You take the victory. Your ego is bigger than mine | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
The Lancet. Could somebody please answer my question. Otherwise, I rest my case
You’ve clearly not read and understood the lancet article.
You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks !
No, you've misread an article and have been shown to be wrong, and are now claiming victory over something that the article doesn't say.
It's not about your ego not admitting defeat. It's a simple question so I'll ask you again. If you caught and spread Covid having been vaccinated and they later died, would you feel guilty or would you not feel guilty becsuse you felt you did all you could to help others ?
I'd feel guilty, because I'd hate to cause someone else's suffering, even if I'd done all I could.
If you spread bollocks despite being repeatedly debunked, including citations of the article you're referring to and the author of said article saying that what you're saying is wrong, and your misinformation led to further lockdowns which made people sad, would you feel guilty?
So you've admitted that even though you've had the vaccine, you can still catch and spread Covid .....I rest my case, I win, your ego loses.
No. *If* it happened, I would feel bad.
If my thoughts made unicorns and pixies cry, I would also feel bad.
It's a conditional sentence. It doesn't mean that the condition is true. (My understanding is that infectiousness is significantly reduced, so I'm a lower risk than being unvaccinated)
But if it makes you feel better to declare victory, then have at it.
You might be right that you're at at a lower risk of catching Covid but that doesn't mean you can't catch it at all. So to spread Covid you have to meet the condition of catching it first which we've established you can. You take the victory. Your ego is bigger than mine "*Shrug* ok | |||
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"As of 2 June 2021, there have been 193768 adverse reactions and 406 fatalities reported through the MHRA yellow card reporting system, for the Pfizer vaccine. The adverse reactions and fatalities data can be found on the MHRA website. You should be told about the yellow card reporting system when you have your jab. " It’s a pity we can’t report all the adverse reactions to lockdown in a similar way | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
My advice to you would be to do what you think is right for you. Do not be persuaded by other people's experience in getting the vaccine as they do not know the long term effects of it, neither do they know how it will affect you. Just bear in mind that the geeral consensus out there is all about fear & that is, get the vaccine or you will die. You're not going to die and worst case scenario, if you get covid, there's a 99.98% chance of survival. People will say it's selfish if you don't get the vaccine, it's not selfish. Like iI say, you do what's right for you.
Agree it's not selfish not to get the jab! It's down to each individual! And should b respected x.
Completely agree it's individual choice, but with that choice comes responsibility. Don't expect to be allowed to travel, go to the pub, clubs or cinemas
Your entitled to your self-esteem and selfish behaviour, but it comes with a personal consequence. Perhaps you will also feel bad about the person you may infect who doesn't just shrug it off, with multiple consequences ( that word again) that can at an extreme, 150K ish extremes so far, be fatal.
You may think its selfish behaviour not getting vaccinated, I don't. I assume you've been vaccinated and if that's the case, you can still catch and spread Covid. You reduce your chances of catching it by about 1%. So let me ask you this. If you caught covid and then gave it to someone else and they later died as result, would you feel guilty ?... Or would you not feel guilty because you feel that you did all you could to save other people ? where are you getting your statistics from? Making crap up is why so many people are scared. Reducing transmission rates by 1% after having the vaccine is clearly just not true. Feel free to post your source for that.
Are you admitting that you can't catch and spread covid if you've been vaccinated ? "No. I’m saying you didn’t read the paper in the lancet. I’m not having a discussion with someone who can’t read an academic paper as it’s literally a waste of time. | |||
"As of 2 June 2021, there have been 193768 adverse reactions and 406 fatalities reported through the MHRA yellow card reporting system, for the Pfizer vaccine. The adverse reactions and fatalities data can be found on the MHRA website. You should be told about the yellow card reporting system when you have your jab. " How many fatalities after the flu jab ? | |||
"As of 2 June 2021, there have been 193768 adverse reactions and 406 fatalities reported through the MHRA yellow card reporting system, for the Pfizer vaccine. The adverse reactions and fatalities data can be found on the MHRA website. You should be told about the yellow card reporting system when you have your jab. " You fail to mention the important clarification in the reporting. About the majority of reports being or elderly people with existing conditions. Albeit the MHRA does not quantify what is meant by 'majority' But not as bad as AZ vax with twice that figure. The assessment must be that this is considered to be an acceptable potential 'cost' for the widespread benefit and lives saved. | |||
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""The vaccination reduces your chance of catching it by about 1%". Really ?" I've explained this "1%" value once already today on the "21st of June Restrictions celebrations Failed" thread, but here it is again for those who didn't see it the first time: This whole "only reduces it by 1%" nonsense is totally down to people that are incapable of understanding simple mathematics. The argument goes like this (rounding off numbers to make the example easier to follow for those that can't understand figures with more than one decimal place): - the unvaccinated survival rate from covid is 98%, that is, only 2% actually die from/of/with covid. - in the vaccinated population, 4 out of 5 that would have died now survive. So only 2 x 0.2 % = 0.4% die when vaccinated. - so death rate reduces from 2% to 0.4% - 2 minus 0.4 = 1.6 - ipso facto QED, the vaccine that saves 4 out of 5 lives only reduces the death rate by 1.6% - the fallacy in the argument is not appreciating that addition and multiplication work in different ways, and that just subtracting one percentage from another totally misrepresents what is actually happening. | |||
""The vaccination reduces your chance of catching it by about 1%". Really ? I've explained this "1%" value once already today on the "21st of June Restrictions celebrations Failed" thread, but here it is again for those who didn't see it the first time: This whole "only reduces it by 1%" nonsense is totally down to people that are incapable of understanding simple mathematics. The argument goes like this (rounding off numbers to make the example easier to follow for those that can't understand figures with more than one decimal place): - the unvaccinated survival rate from covid is 98%, that is, only 2% actually die from/of/with covid. - in the vaccinated population, 4 out of 5 that would have died now survive. So only 2 x 0.2 % = 0.4% die when vaccinated. - so death rate reduces from 2% to 0.4% - 2 minus 0.4 = 1.6 - ipso facto QED, the vaccine that saves 4 out of 5 lives only reduces the death rate by 1.6% - the fallacy in the argument is not appreciating that addition and multiplication work in different ways, and that just subtracting one percentage from another totally misrepresents what is actually happening." This! | |||
"As of 2 June 2021, there have been 193768 adverse reactions and 406 fatalities reported through the MHRA yellow card reporting system, for the Pfizer vaccine. The adverse reactions and fatalities data can be found on the MHRA website. You should be told about the yellow card reporting system when you have your jab. " You're leaving out the most important part. Any member of the public or health professional can submit suspected side effects through the Yellow Card scheme. The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects. Some events may have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination. | |||
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"As of 2 June 2021, there have been 193768 adverse reactions and 406 fatalities reported through the MHRA yellow card reporting system, for the Pfizer vaccine. The adverse reactions and fatalities data can be found on the MHRA website. You should be told about the yellow card reporting system when you have your jab. You're leaving out the most important part. Any member of the public or health professional can submit suspected side effects through the Yellow Card scheme. The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects. Some events may have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination. " | |||
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"Not disputing that. But most people aren’t even told about the yellow card reporting either, everyone I know that’s had a jab. Didn’t know about it. Most don’t even know which jab they’ve had either, and the MHRA don’t do any investigation into adverse reactions either" is that maybe a regional issue and your local centre isnt very good? i was told which vaccine, handed pamphlet with general vaccine info, common side effects, when to see the GP if required and about the yellow card system , and a second fact sheet with specifics about my specific vaccine type | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route "OMG look what you started! Anyway, what's important is you! So I hope it all goes well. Let us know how you're feeling sweetheart! We'd like to know! Happy belated birthday btw! | |||
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"I had Pfizer. Very slight ache in the top of my arm on the day I had it, nothing to speak of the next day. Don’t worry yourself "Exactly this | |||
"Not disputing that. But most people aren’t even told about the yellow card reporting either, everyone I know that’s had a jab. Didn’t know about it. Most don’t even know which jab they’ve had either, and the MHRA don’t do any investigation into adverse reactions either" But using the yellow card data as conclusive to prove the vaccine has killed people or caused serious reactions is misleading, it doesn't do that at all. It proves nothing at all. | |||
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""The vaccination reduces your chance of catching it by about 1%". Really ? I've explained this "1%" value once already today on the "21st of June Restrictions celebrations Failed" thread, but here it is again for those who didn't see it the first time: This whole "only reduces it by 1%" nonsense is totally down to people that are incapable of understanding simple mathematics. The argument goes like this (rounding off numbers to make the example easier to follow for those that can't understand figures with more than one decimal place): - the unvaccinated survival rate from covid is 98%, that is, only 2% actually die from/of/with covid. - in the vaccinated population, 4 out of 5 that would have died now survive. So only 2 x 0.2 % = 0.4% die when vaccinated. - so death rate reduces from 2% to 0.4% - 2 minus 0.4 = 1.6 - ipso facto QED, the vaccine that saves 4 out of 5 lives only reduces the death rate by 1.6% - the fallacy in the argument is not appreciating that addition and multiplication work in different ways, and that just subtracting one percentage from another totally misrepresents what is actually happening." How on earth do you come to the conclusion, in the vaccinated population, 4 out of 5 that would have died, now survive ? ...you didn't tell us you had a crystal ball. People will try and make sense from this but you just cannot draw accurate inferences from calculations with made up figures. This is complete and utter garbage. | |||
""The vaccination reduces your chance of catching it by about 1%". Really ? I've explained this "1%" value once already today on the "21st of June Restrictions celebrations Failed" thread, but here it is again for those who didn't see it the first time: This whole "only reduces it by 1%" nonsense is totally down to people that are incapable of understanding simple mathematics. The argument goes like this (rounding off numbers to make the example easier to follow for those that can't understand figures with more than one decimal place): - the unvaccinated survival rate from covid is 98%, that is, only 2% actually die from/of/with covid. - in the vaccinated population, 4 out of 5 that would have died now survive. So only 2 x 0.2 % = 0.4% die when vaccinated. - so death rate reduces from 2% to 0.4% - 2 minus 0.4 = 1.6 - ipso facto QED, the vaccine that saves 4 out of 5 lives only reduces the death rate by 1.6% - the fallacy in the argument is not appreciating that addition and multiplication work in different ways, and that just subtracting one percentage from another totally misrepresents what is actually happening. How on earth do you come to the conclusion, in the vaccinated population, 4 out of 5 that would have died, now survive ? ...you didn't tell us you had a crystal ball. People will try and make sense from this but you just cannot draw accurate inferences from calculations with made up figures. This is complete and utter garbage. " Less garbage than your total (possibly deliberate?) misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the Lancet article figures. I basically show how putting sensible figures in then failing to understand arithmetic can result in a completely wrong apparent result. Your continued assertion of "the vaccine is only 1% effective" is wrong, and is based on you being unable to understand the difference between Relative Risk Reduction (RRR) and Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR). Quoting from the actual article, the figures for RRR for the various vaccines are: "Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines." So in fact in the case of the Pfizer, if a group of unvaccinated people all catch covid, and 20 of them die, if the exact same group had actually been vaccinated, only 1 of them would die. This is the real meaning of the actual figures in the Lancet article. If every person in the country was vaccinated with the Pfizer, out of every 20 that would have died, 19 will actually survive. (So in fact much better than the 4 in 5 that I used in my example). The AZ vaccine is clearly less effective, 67% equates to only saving the lives of 13 from the 20 that would have died. (Still bloody good news for that particular 13 though, but a bit shit for the 6 who died that would have been okay if they'd had Pfizer). Putting this all into real perspective across the UK, we are now at just a fraction below 128 thousand covid related deaths over the last 18 months. If every person in the UK had received the full 2 jabs of Pfizer on day one, only 6,400 would have died - approximately 121,600 lives saved. If they had instead all received AZ, it would be 42,240 deaths - nowhere near as good, but on the other hand it would be 85,760 people that didn't die, and I suppose most of those would be quite grateful. Of course I don't expect any anti-vaxxer to understand any of this, the wanton disbelief precludes being able to accept even very simple arithmetic. However, I do hope that the explanation might reassure some of those that do not have closed minds but might have been disturbed by the false reporting from the anti-science brigade. | |||
" You've all gone very quiet all of a sudden. So by not answering the question, you are all admitting that getting the vaccine completely stops you catching Covid AND it stops you from spreading it ! ....which is complete bollocks ! I don't think I have seen anyone sensible on here state that the vaccine completly stops you catching covid or spreading it, I belive there has been some research that may have pointed towards the vaccine stopping or limiting the spread of the virus but I would have to see if I could find the information before saying for certain that was the case A quick Google has thrown up a number of articles stating that researchers have indeed found that the vaccines by Pfizer and Astrazenica could reduce the chances of transmitting the virus by between 40% and 60% " And those figures are following one dose of the vaccine. By having two jabs the chances of that person transmitting the virus further reduce. | |||
""The vaccination reduces your chance of catching it by about 1%". Really ? I've explained this "1%" value once already today on the "21st of June Restrictions celebrations Failed" thread, but here it is again for those who didn't see it the first time: This whole "only reduces it by 1%" nonsense is totally down to people that are incapable of understanding simple mathematics. The argument goes like this (rounding off numbers to make the example easier to follow for those that can't understand figures with more than one decimal place): - the unvaccinated survival rate from covid is 98%, that is, only 2% actually die from/of/with covid. - in the vaccinated population, 4 out of 5 that would have died now survive. So only 2 x 0.2 % = 0.4% die when vaccinated. - so death rate reduces from 2% to 0.4% - 2 minus 0.4 = 1.6 - ipso facto QED, the vaccine that saves 4 out of 5 lives only reduces the death rate by 1.6% - the fallacy in the argument is not appreciating that addition and multiplication work in different ways, and that just subtracting one percentage from another totally misrepresents what is actually happening. How on earth do you come to the conclusion, in the vaccinated population, 4 out of 5 that would have died, now survive ? ...you didn't tell us you had a crystal ball. People will try and make sense from this but you just cannot draw accurate inferences from calculations with made up figures. This is complete and utter garbage. Less garbage than your total (possibly deliberate?) misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the Lancet article figures. I basically show how putting sensible figures in then failing to understand arithmetic can result in a completely wrong apparent result. Your continued assertion of "the vaccine is only 1% effective" is wrong, and is based on you being unable to understand the difference between Relative Risk Reduction (RRR) and Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR). Quoting from the actual article, the figures for RRR for the various vaccines are: "Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines." So in fact in the case of the Pfizer, if a group of unvaccinated people all catch covid, and 20 of them die, if the exact same group had actually been vaccinated, only 1 of them would die. This is the real meaning of the actual figures in the Lancet article. If every person in the country was vaccinated with the Pfizer, out of every 20 that would have died, 19 will actually survive. (So in fact much better than the 4 in 5 that I used in my example). The AZ vaccine is clearly less effective, 67% equates to only saving the lives of 13 from the 20 that would have died. (Still bloody good news for that particular 13 though, but a bit shit for the 6 who died that would have been okay if they'd had Pfizer). Putting this all into real perspective across the UK, we are now at just a fraction below 128 thousand covid related deaths over the last 18 months. If every person in the UK had received the full 2 jabs of Pfizer on day one, only 6,400 would have died - approximately 121,600 lives saved. If they had instead all received AZ, it would be 42,240 deaths - nowhere near as good, but on the other hand it would be 85,760 people that didn't die, and I suppose most of those would be quite grateful. Of course I don't expect any anti-vaxxer to understand any of this, the wanton disbelief precludes being able to accept even very simple arithmetic. However, I do hope that the explanation might reassure some of those that do not have closed minds but might have been disturbed by the false reporting from the anti-science brigade." People don't understand fairly basic maths. Then push their own misinterpretation of data as fact. I have no idea what they're teaching in schools these days regarding basic maths or biology. But it's clearly not enough. E | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route "If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history. "Do you actually believe covid doesn't exist? | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history.
Do you actually believe covid doesn't exist?"Of course it exists. Viruses have existed since the dawn of time. They are why we have an immune system. | |||
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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history.
Do you actually believe covid doesn't exist?
Of course it exists. Viruses have existed since the dawn of time. They are why we have an immune system. "What's the hoax then? | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history. "To help others, to help ourselves, to end lockdown. Because all the hoax arguments don't sound even vaguely sane let alone worth considering. | |||
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"The way a seasonal flu is being manipulated in order to impose draconian restrictions as part of the great reset. Climate lockdowns and restrictions next. " Yeah, ok. I prefer reality | |||
"The way a seasonal flu is being manipulated in order to impose draconian restrictions as part of the great reset. Climate lockdowns and restrictions next. " Did you have a straight face when you typed that? | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
Obviously not a regular fab forum reader / you tuber / Karen fan.
You will get better 5G signal (assuming you have 5G device), will find that bits of ferrous metals will stick to you and will develop a compulsion to buy Microsoft products while also supporting Bill Gates worthy causes.
You will also be less able to spot Lizard people as there is a masking agent in the vaccine that renders their true appearance undetectable to anyone vaccinated.
For some reason though you can still see most other reptiles."Here we go | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history.
Do you actually believe covid doesn't exist?
Of course it exists. Viruses have existed since the dawn of time. They are why we have an immune system. "so what about tb, measles, smallpox etc... we didnt leave that too our immune systems | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history. "165 complicit country's throughout the world. 78 billion "victims" It's one HELL if a hoax.
Even if you don't understand the science, and it's ok not to, pure dumb logic should tell you this is no hoax.
They say in order for the moonlandingd to have been a hoax would have required 250,000 people for the last 52 years. That's one event, one country.
How many people would need to be complicit in a worldwide hoax?
Apart from one obvious question, what's the goal of a Covid hoax?
I'll wait.........
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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route "I'm 30 (just).. i had Pfizer 10 days ago. I did say to them i am nervous and i was put at ease. sore arm for no more then 24 hours, little bit of a headache for a couple hours. Then i was completely fine . Nothing to worry about.
i'm normally fit and well...ish. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history.
165 complicit country's throughout the world.
78 billion "victims"
It's one HELL if a hoax.
Even if you don't understand the science, and it's ok not to, pure dumb logic should tell you this is no hoax.
They say in order for the moonlandingd to have been a hoax would have required 250,000 people for the last 52 years. That's one event, one country.
How many people would need to be complicit in a worldwide hoax?
Apart from one obvious question, what's the goal of a Covid hoax?
I'll wait.........
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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history.
165 complicit country's throughout the world.
78 billion "victims"
It's one HELL if a hoax.
Even if you don't understand the science, and it's ok not to, pure dumb logic should tell you this is no hoax.
They say in order for the moonlandingd to have been a hoax would have required 250,000 people for the last 52 years. That's one event, one country.
How many people would need to be complicit in a worldwide hoax?
Apart from one obvious question, what's the goal of a Covid hoax?
I'll wait.........
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78 billion "7.8 billion. Damn decimal point.
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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history.
165 complicit country's throughout the world.
78 billion "victims"
It's one HELL if a hoax.
Even if you don't understand the science, and it's ok not to, pure dumb logic should tell you this is no hoax.
They say in order for the moonlandingd to have been a hoax would have required 250,000 people for the last 52 years. That's one event, one country.
How many people would need to be complicit in a worldwide hoax?
Apart from one obvious question, what's the goal of a Covid hoax?
I'll wait.........
E
78 billion
7.8 billion. Damn decimal point.
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"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history.
165 complicit country's throughout the world.
78 billion "victims"
It's one HELL if a hoax.
Even if you don't understand the science, and it's ok not to, pure dumb logic should tell you this is no hoax.
They say in order for the moonlandingd to have been a hoax would have required 250,000 people for the last 52 years. That's one event, one country.
How many people would need to be complicit in a worldwide hoax?
Apart from one obvious question, what's the goal of a Covid hoax?
I'll wait.........
E
78 billion
7.8 billion. Damn decimal point.
E "I'm not writing any cheques today.
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"I’ve had vaccine at 2:00 pm afternoon I’m doing really well and didn’t feel anything. I would highly recommend everyone should try to make efforts to get it if this can make any different to our society and save lives..."  | |||
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"23 and 24 year olds can book their vaccinations tomorrow. My children are delighted. " I'm so pleased | |||
"23 and 24 year olds can book their vaccinations tomorrow. My children are delighted. I'm so pleased" Me too
If my son hasn't had a text yet I'll send him a link.
OP glad to hear it went well.
Please try to encourage as many other young people as you can. | |||
"I’ve had vaccine at 2:00 pm afternoon I’m doing really well and didn’t feel anything. I would highly recommend everyone should try to make efforts to get it if this can make any different to our society and save lives..." Glad it went well for you fella and good on you for making the choice to have the vaccine | |||
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"The way a seasonal flu is being manipulated in order to impose draconian restrictions as part of the great reset. Climate lockdowns and restrictions next. " The great reset? is this something that you figured out all on your lonesome or did the other people with “inside knowledge” help you? I’ve had flu once and I’ve had Covid. Covid is not a seasonal variation of the flu. | |||
"I turned up 26 last week . I’ve been told to get the vaccine as over 25 on the line . I booked it tomorrow Pfizer . I would like to know how it is feel like I’m healthy ad fit I didn’t feel anything all during pandemic till now .. so I’m concerning what is like after getting vaccine ? So many scaremongering around getting me on different route
If you are healthy and fit why on earth are you getting jabbed? Give your head a shake man! Do some research and dont fall for the biggest hoax in human history. "Ahh another doctor of YouTube with an undergraduate Twitter degree. I’d absolutely love to look at your research methodology. Tell me what source material did you use? Was your statistical analysis peer reviewed? Have you published your findings? | |||
"I’ve had vaccine at 2:00 pm afternoon I’m doing really well and didn’t feel anything. I would highly recommend everyone should try to make efforts to get it if this can make any different to our society and save lives... "Eliminating poverty would save lives | |||
"Showing my age here, but didn't all under 25s get vaccinated as infants or when they were at school and lived to tell the tale?" At 35, I got jabbed as an infant and at school - but certainly not against Covid. | |||
"I’ve had vaccine at 2:00 pm afternoon I’m doing really well and didn’t feel anything. I would highly recommend everyone should try to make efforts to get it if this can make any different to our society and save lives...
Eliminating poverty would save lives"Poverty isn’t that contagious. It’s more likely to be inherited. | |||
"I’ve had vaccine at 2:00 pm afternoon I’m doing really well and didn’t feel anything. I would highly recommend everyone should try to make efforts to get it if this can make any different to our society and save lives...
Eliminating poverty would save lives"If you'd like to work on that, then feel free. I didn't realise problems were mutually exclusive. | |||
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"I’ve had vaccine at 2:00 pm afternoon I’m doing really well and didn’t feel anything. I would highly recommend everyone should try to make efforts to get it if this can make any different to our society and save lives..." Yay! | |||
