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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" given the government can change their mind about which countries fit into amber or green whenever the need arises. I would say don't travel at all . However , if you do I wouldn't pick on an amber country hoping it will turn green! also I'd be prepared for delays , further testing in both countries and some sort of self isolation at the end of it..again that's likely to change as we go through the summer..bottom line I wouldn't travel or plan to for a few months yet..though everyone is entitled to make their own decision and that means deal with things if they go wrong too. So moaning like some have been on the TV about having to go home early etc is likely not to get much sympathy from the ' I told you so' brigade | |||
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"Does anyone really think people returning from amber countries will isolate for 10 days " No, no I don't | |||
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"Does anyone really think people returning from amber countries will isolate for 10 days " There are checks made, people have to have pre-purchased tests and have them. Plus there are large fines for breaking the law. | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" Not this year for certain, and that includes this country as well as overseas. Next year ? Gut feeling is there'll be new variants doing the rounds, some folks will need boosters, some countries will be experiencing subsequent waves, and the situation will be highly fragmented/chaotic in terms of what variants are abound, what countries are on the various red/green/amber lists, and what immunisation levels are like in different countries. Put it another way... When Covid first broke, it was like a tin of Quality Street with 1-2 flavours (strains). And we all know how difficult it has been to deal with just those 1-2 initially. I imagine next year, we'll have a full tin of flavours to deal with due to regional mutations. Unless you name is Bonaparte, it's commonly accepted that you cannot win a war when fighting on more than one front. If my Quality Street analogy bears fruit (or chocolate), that's precisely where we could be heading, worldwide. So no, I don't feel optimistic about 2022. 2023 and beyond isn't looking to clever either, tbh. 15 months on from the initial outbreak and the virus is still ravaging the world. There may be "pockets" of stronger resistance in some places, but this battle is hardly won by any stretch of the imagination. If this was WWII, we're still in 1939 and the Axis have swept through Europe. We have long way to go yet. | |||
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"Does anyone really think people returning from amber countries will isolate for 10 days " i went last year when it was 14 days and did the full thing at home without having to be checked one - never even went out to the supermarket | |||
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"Does anyone really think people returning from amber countries will isolate for 10 days i went last year when it was 14 days and did the full thing at home without having to be checked one - never even went out to the supermarket " although last year i booked short notice when i knew fairly certainly that my trip could go ahead this years its far too uncertain for me so not booking anything yet | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" The price of the tests before and after are too much to add to the holiday price for me tbh | |||
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"Nobody should travel this year " Try telling that to Alan Wicker and Judith Charmers | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?" lol try to make me sound dumb you know exactly what im talking about | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? The price of the tests before and after are too much to add to the holiday price for me tbh" this is what is putting me off. I could get a return flight and my hotel for 4 days for less than my test to come home ( could always stay there I guess lol ) | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?" where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening." We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc " you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point" we have never really been in a lockdown.. and certainly not now | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? The price of the tests before and after are too much to add to the holiday price for me tbh this is what is putting me off. I could get a return flight and my hotel for 4 days for less than my test to come home ( could always stay there I guess lol )" Exactly! I have poland booked for december.. 3rd time it's been rearranged | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point" I travel over 900 miles a week with work staying in hotels the length and breath of the U.K. I see what everybody is doing, we ain’t in lockdown | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point we have never really been in a lockdown.. and certainly not now " I totally agree, the microchip in my arm told me | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point we have never really been in a lockdown.. and certainly not now I totally agree, the microchip in my arm told me " My microchip is experimental. | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point we have never really been in a lockdown.. and certainly not now I totally agree, the microchip in my arm told me " Funny fact, ARM Ltd are the designers of more microchips than any other company in the world. So it is more than likely that your arm microchip is in fact an ARM microchip | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point we have never really been in a lockdown.. and certainly not now I totally agree, the microchip in my arm told me Funny fact, ARM Ltd are the designers of more microchips than any other company in the world. So it is more than likely that your arm microchip is in fact an ARM microchip " | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point I travel over 900 miles a week with work staying in hotels the length and breath of the U.K. I see what everybody is doing, we ain’t in lockdown " tell that to the small family run businesses that have had to close down after years of serving the public. I'm sure they will agree we have never been in a lock down | |||
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"Who is ‘they’ and why is the system bullshit?where did I say system in my post? I said traffic light bullshit that was pre planned we ain't coming out of lock down on the 21st that's never happening. We’re not really in lockdown are we, everywhere is open except nightclubs, I was in London at the weekend the place was packed, everybody out eating, drinking, in the parks etc you think you're not in lock down but you're wrong. Exactly how you're spose to be thinking at this point I travel over 900 miles a week with work staying in hotels the length and breath of the U.K. I see what everybody is doing, we ain’t in lockdown tell that to the small family run businesses that have had to close down after years of serving the public. I'm sure they will agree we have never been in a lock down" I never said, and I quote you “we have never been in lock down” I said we are not in lockdown now. We have been gradually easing out of it, and a delay on the final 21/6 date will have little effect, I personally would not implement the last stage until the kids finish school around the 23/7. But I don’t make that call | |||
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"Booked for next summer . It's not worth the hassle this summer." Exactly what I did / thought last May but those 13 months came round quite quickly lol | |||
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"Booked for next summer . It's not worth the hassle this summer. Exactly what I did / thought last May but those 13 months came round quite quickly lol" Hopefully we might be a little better next August | |||
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"People keep citing they won’t travel as they don’t want the risk of bringing COVID back with them. Do they realize u can’t re enter the UK without a negative PCR COVID test ?? So if you do have COVID you will have to stay where you are until you test negative." I think it is totally irresponsible of you to go around spreading malicious logic and common sense like this, if everyone did it, what would people have to panic about, and if it were true, what reason would all the people up in arms about people going on holidays have left to complain about. Think of others before speaking truth and logic | |||
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"People keep citing they won’t travel as they don’t want the risk of bringing COVID back with them. Do they realize u can’t re enter the UK without a negative PCR COVID test ?? So if you do have COVID you will have to stay where you are until you test negative. I think it is totally irresponsible of you to go around spreading malicious logic and common sense like this, if everyone did it, what would people have to panic about, and if it were true, what reason would all the people up in arms about people going on holidays have left to complain about. Think of others before speaking truth and logic" Theres no rise of bringing covid back, not with all the tests, or don't the tests work? | |||
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"Personally not bothering, plenty of places in UK to visit" I wish this were actually true. Even campsites have put up their fees to ridiculous amounts and a 4 day break here will cost me twice what one in Italy or malta would cost me x x even with test fees So I'll just be doing day trips | |||
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"I still find it quite incredible, when countries are moved from Green to Amber and news reports show interviews with holiday makers whinging about how little notice has been given of the change. This thing has been around for a while now. The virus doesn't give advanced notice. To be fair, I'm quite amazed that the government is giving as much as 4 days notice as it is. Surely, when there is a surge in cases abroad, decisions to restrict or ban travel to and from those countries should come in with immediate effect. " I think the problem is the government said they would give at least a weeks notice before changing the traffic light system to avoid scenes in airports that we saw last year, but they didn't, that's caused quiet a bit of upset | |||
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"I still find it quite incredible, when countries are moved from Green to Amber and news reports show interviews with holiday makers whinging about how little notice has been given of the change. This thing has been around for a while now. The virus doesn't give advanced notice. To be fair, I'm quite amazed that the government is giving as much as 4 days notice as it is. Surely, when there is a surge in cases abroad, decisions to restrict or ban travel to and from those countries should come in with immediate effect. I think the problem is the government said they would give at least a weeks notice before changing the traffic light system to avoid scenes in airports that we saw last year, but they didn't, that's caused quiet a bit of upset" I can quite appreciate the upset, but I feel that many of those affected are failing to see the bigger picture here. Many people have been caused upset by losing loved ones, or their jobs or even found themselves losing a business that they may have spent many years building due to this bloody virus. I suspect that many, myself included, feel that the government has been far to lax when it comes to allowing foreign travel. We live on an island. We had an opportunity last year to completely close our borders and prevent further cases getting into the country and we could have dealt with this thing a lot quicker. | |||
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"I still find it quite incredible, when countries are moved from Green to Amber and news reports show interviews with holiday makers whinging about how little notice has been given of the change. This thing has been around for a while now. The virus doesn't give advanced notice. To be fair, I'm quite amazed that the government is giving as much as 4 days notice as it is. Surely, when there is a surge in cases abroad, decisions to restrict or ban travel to and from those countries should come in with immediate effect. I think the problem is the government said they would give at least a weeks notice before changing the traffic light system to avoid scenes in airports that we saw last year, but they didn't, that's caused quiet a bit of upset" still no sympathy- its like planning a picnic when there is 50% chance of rain then crying because you got wet (and i say that as someone who did travel last summer - its not the travel i object to, its the stupidity and entitlement) | |||
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"I still find it quite incredible, when countries are moved from Green to Amber and news reports show interviews with holiday makers whinging about how little notice has been given of the change. This thing has been around for a while now. The virus doesn't give advanced notice. To be fair, I'm quite amazed that the government is giving as much as 4 days notice as it is. Surely, when there is a surge in cases abroad, decisions to restrict or ban travel to and from those countries should come in with immediate effect. I think the problem is the government said they would give at least a weeks notice before changing the traffic light system to avoid scenes in airports that we saw last year, but they didn't, that's caused quiet a bit of upset I can quite appreciate the upset, but I feel that many of those affected are failing to see the bigger picture here. Many people have been caused upset by losing loved ones, or their jobs or even found themselves losing a business that they may have spent many years building due to this bloody virus. I suspect that many, myself included, feel that the government has been far to lax when it comes to allowing foreign travel. We live on an island. We had an opportunity last year to completely close our borders and prevent further cases getting into the country and we could have dealt with this thing a lot quicker." Yes I agree with you. It's all very sad, but we can't stay locked up because of the pain people have suffered. I dunno, its tough, maybe the government could of said basically not much travel this year instead of giving false hope of travel if you have the vaccine. The goal posts have been moved way to much. If people know the score they accept things better and would start thinking about holidays abroad for next year instead of having the carrot dangled. It's that whole thing of you can go out but don't go out. Travel was allowed last year with no vaccine and no tests. I've had both jabs, happy to test but it's been made so difficult that I won't be travelling in the summer months. Maybe just best Boris says NOT THIS YEAR so it's clear and done with Claire | |||
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"I still find it quite incredible, when countries are moved from Green to Amber and news reports show interviews with holiday makers whinging about how little notice has been given of the change. This thing has been around for a while now. The virus doesn't give advanced notice. To be fair, I'm quite amazed that the government is giving as much as 4 days notice as it is. Surely, when there is a surge in cases abroad, decisions to restrict or ban travel to and from those countries should come in with immediate effect. I think the problem is the government said they would give at least a weeks notice before changing the traffic light system to avoid scenes in airports that we saw last year, but they didn't, that's caused quiet a bit of upset still no sympathy- its like planning a picnic when there is 50% chance of rain then crying because you got wet (and i say that as someone who did travel last summer - its not the travel i object to, its the stupidity and entitlement) " Travellers I've seen haven't asked for sympathy, just pissed off the government said 1 thing then did another. It's a risk they took, it paid off for some and not for others | |||
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"I still find it quite incredible, when countries are moved from Green to Amber and news reports show interviews with holiday makers whinging about how little notice has been given of the change. This thing has been around for a while now. The virus doesn't give advanced notice. To be fair, I'm quite amazed that the government is giving as much as 4 days notice as it is. Surely, when there is a surge in cases abroad, decisions to restrict or ban travel to and from those countries should come in with immediate effect. I think the problem is the government said they would give at least a weeks notice before changing the traffic light system to avoid scenes in airports that we saw last year, but they didn't, that's caused quiet a bit of upset I can quite appreciate the upset, but I feel that many of those affected are failing to see the bigger picture here. Many people have been caused upset by losing loved ones, or their jobs or even found themselves losing a business that they may have spent many years building due to this bloody virus. I suspect that many, myself included, feel that the government has been far to lax when it comes to allowing foreign travel. We live on an island. We had an opportunity last year to completely close our borders and prevent further cases getting into the country and we could have dealt with this thing a lot quicker. Yes I agree with you. It's all very sad, but we can't stay locked up because of the pain people have suffered. I dunno, its tough, maybe the government could of said basically not much travel this year instead of giving false hope of travel if you have the vaccine. The goal posts have been moved way to much. If people know the score they accept things better and would start thinking about holidays abroad for next year instead of having the carrot dangled. It's that whole thing of you can go out but don't go out. Travel was allowed last year with no vaccine and no tests. I've had both jabs, happy to test but it's been made so difficult that I won't be travelling in the summer months. Maybe just best Boris says NOT THIS YEAR so it's clear and done with Claire " To be fair, Matt Hancock did say in April 2020 that people should forget about going abroad for the rest of the year. And wee Jimmy Crankie also came out on a few occasions saying that whilst she wouldn't ban foreign travel, her advice was against it - and continues to do so | |||
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"I still find it quite incredible, when countries are moved from Green to Amber and news reports show interviews with holiday makers whinging about how little notice has been given of the change. This thing has been around for a while now. The virus doesn't give advanced notice. To be fair, I'm quite amazed that the government is giving as much as 4 days notice as it is. Surely, when there is a surge in cases abroad, decisions to restrict or ban travel to and from those countries should come in with immediate effect. I think the problem is the government said they would give at least a weeks notice before changing the traffic light system to avoid scenes in airports that we saw last year, but they didn't, that's caused quiet a bit of upset I can quite appreciate the upset, but I feel that many of those affected are failing to see the bigger picture here. Many people have been caused upset by losing loved ones, or their jobs or even found themselves losing a business that they may have spent many years building due to this bloody virus. I suspect that many, myself included, feel that the government has been far to lax when it comes to allowing foreign travel. We live on an island. We had an opportunity last year to completely close our borders and prevent further cases getting into the country and we could have dealt with this thing a lot quicker. Yes I agree with you. It's all very sad, but we can't stay locked up because of the pain people have suffered. I dunno, its tough, maybe the government could of said basically not much travel this year instead of giving false hope of travel if you have the vaccine. The goal posts have been moved way to much. If people know the score they accept things better and would start thinking about holidays abroad for next year instead of having the carrot dangled. It's that whole thing of you can go out but don't go out. Travel was allowed last year with no vaccine and no tests. I've had both jabs, happy to test but it's been made so difficult that I won't be travelling in the summer months. Maybe just best Boris says NOT THIS YEAR so it's clear and done with Claire To be fair, Matt Hancock did say in April 2020 that people should forget about going abroad for the rest of the year. And wee Jimmy Crankie also came out on a few occasions saying that whilst she wouldn't ban foreign travel, her advice was against it - and continues to do so" And theres the problem, lifting the travel ban, making holidays available then saying we "advise" people don't do what we are allowing them to legally do. I see both sides, anyway good luck to those who know the risk but still travel, and have a nice uk break to all those staying. I'm not judging anyone's choice!!! | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" Even travel between England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is hanging in the balance. It's a fact that by and large, international travel is pretty much out of the question for most of the world's population, not just us Brits. | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" What's wrong with going to Hunstanton? | |||
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"Booked for next summer . It's not worth the hassle this summer." Yes I quite agree | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" If you're fully aware of the risks of travelling abroad, then that's up to you. Personally, I never expected to have a holiday anywhere but the UK this year. | |||
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"“ And theres the problem, lifting the travel ban, making holidays available then saying we "advise" people don't do what we are allowing them to legally do. I see both sides, anyway good luck to those who know the risk but still travel, and have a nice uk break to all those staying. I'm not judging anyone's choice!!!” yes expecting adults to make cautious decisions or be prepared to deal with any consequences does seem stupid its almost as if we are moaning about being controlled while proving that we need to be " Quite | |||
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"“ And theres the problem, lifting the travel ban, making holidays available then saying we "advise" people don't do what we are allowing them to legally do. I see both sides, anyway good luck to those who know the risk but still travel, and have a nice uk break to all those staying. I'm not judging anyone's choice!!!” yes expecting adults to make cautious decisions or be prepared to deal with any consequences does seem stupid its almost as if we are moaning about being controlled while proving that we need to be " Totally. Problem seems to be that we as a nation ( not sure if the rest of the world are like this?) We can't just go ahead and do things in a subdued and dignified way. People just have to go nuts,lads lads lads, group's pre drinking and getting absolutely wankered. People have been moaning all during the lockdowns about loss of freedom's. Now I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Perhaps we have shown that actually we need to be reigned in a bit and taught to show some restraint and control. Everything has to be balls to the wall max at the moment. Putting it bluntly. If people act like animals don't be surprised when you get treated that way. | |||
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"“ And theres the problem, lifting the travel ban, making holidays available then saying we "advise" people don't do what we are allowing them to legally do. I see both sides, anyway good luck to those who know the risk but still travel, and have a nice uk break to all those staying. I'm not judging anyone's choice!!!” yes expecting adults to make cautious decisions or be prepared to deal with any consequences does seem stupid its almost as if we are moaning about being controlled while proving that we need to be Totally. Problem seems to be that we as a nation ( not sure if the rest of the world are like this?) We can't just go ahead and do things in a subdued and dignified way. People just have to go nuts,lads lads lads, group's pre drinking and getting absolutely wankered. People have been moaning all during the lockdowns about loss of freedom's. Now I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Perhaps we have shown that actually we need to be reigned in a bit and taught to show some restraint and control. Everything has to be balls to the wall max at the moment. Putting it bluntly. If people act like animals don't be surprised when you get treated that way." It's not just the UK. | |||
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"“ And theres the problem, lifting the travel ban, making holidays available then saying we "advise" people don't do what we are allowing them to legally do. I see both sides, anyway good luck to those who know the risk but still travel, and have a nice uk break to all those staying. I'm not judging anyone's choice!!!” yes expecting adults to make cautious decisions or be prepared to deal with any consequences does seem stupid its almost as if we are moaning about being controlled while proving that we need to be Quite" While the uk feels free to rush out to pubs, no social distancing taking place, boozed up to the eye balls hooking up with strangers for sex and attending large gatherings in stadiums. Aye the great British public know how to prolong things, and the freedom of those who only wish to see beloved family members in a different country but can't because the locals caught covid pished in wetherspoons at the weekend. I agree, they can't be trusted, so burn your passports people and look closer to home. Coz all our troubles start right here on our own bloody doorstep. | |||
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"Personally not bothering, plenty of places in UK to visit I wish this were actually true. Even campsites have put up their fees to ridiculous amounts and a 4 day break here will cost me twice what one in Italy or malta would cost me x x even with test fees So I'll just be doing day trips " Same here a Saturday night in a different city now and again. But won't be do holidays in the UK. Just not enough value for money. | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" Its a no, no. | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" Not worth even fretting about this year, leaving it until stability returns. We are seasoned and adventurous works travellers but who needs the hassle of uncertainty re Covid, it’s been bad enough dealing with natural disasters and coups in the past. | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? Not worth even fretting about this year, leaving it until stability returns. We are seasoned and adventurous works travellers but who needs the hassle of uncertainty re Covid, it’s been bad enough dealing with natural disasters and coups in the past. " World Fecking predictive txt again | |||
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"I've booked onto a lads holiday for a few weeks time, there's twelve of us. With having the test before the flight we're not too concerned and I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? If you're fully aware of the risks of travelling abroad, then that's up to you. Personally, I never expected to have a holiday anywhere but the UK this year. " I never expected to have a holiday anywhere this year. | |||
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"“ And theres the problem, lifting the travel ban, making holidays available then saying we "advise" people don't do what we are allowing them to legally do. I see both sides, anyway good luck to those who know the risk but still travel, and have a nice uk break to all those staying. I'm not judging anyone's choice!!!” yes expecting adults to make cautious decisions or be prepared to deal with any consequences does seem stupid its almost as if we are moaning about being controlled while proving that we need to be " You have hit the nail on the head there. | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts?" I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine. | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine." Exactly this xx | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine." Just heard an update on the radio from Simon Calder the travel journo. He says it's not so much that we may be permitted to exit by our government. Its that places are now putting up barriers to UK originating travellers as our infection rates are off the scale and they want to protect their own populations. We don't need to worry anymore about what we bring into this country. We are doing a marvellous job of spreading it on our own. If you're UK and already living on mainland Europe.. He reckons you just jump on a train or plane. No help to us living here of course. | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine." I agree Sally | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine. I agree Sally " Exactly this for us. Plus the rules change so quickly, You could be in Spain and when you get there, there is one set of requirements when return home then in 24 hours it could be totally different. | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine. I agree Sally Exactly this for us. Plus the rules change so quickly, You could be in Spain and when you get there, there is one set of requirements when return home then in 24 hours it could be totally different. " I agree, Lorna, that is an issue. | |||
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"I’m going to wait till end of Aug see what the situation is" Hate to be a jonah but in August we will be preparing for lockdown 4 as we prepare for moving back indoors for autumn. I'm far from convinced that the vaccine is the panacea we are being told. | |||
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"I’m going to wait till end of Aug see what the situation is Hate to be a jonah but in August we will be preparing for lockdown 4 as we prepare for moving back indoors for autumn. I'm far from convinced that the vaccine is the panacea we are being told. " That new guy who replaced Hancock has said he won't be doing any reverseing lol but can we believe anything they say | |||
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"I’m going to wait till end of Aug see what the situation is Hate to be a jonah but in August we will be preparing for lockdown 4 as we prepare for moving back indoors for autumn. I'm far from convinced that the vaccine is the panacea we are being told. That new guy who replaced Hancock has said he won't be doing any reverseing lol but can we believe anything they say " Hope I'm wrong but... This is a very long way from over...amazing vaccine numbers seem to be doing very little to stop the spread. Here's irony... My lad and his mates didn't want to go to the pub to watch the footie as they didn't want to risk catching anything. Any govt minister can't predict the unpredictable. | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine. I agree Sally Exactly this for us. Plus the rules change so quickly, You could be in Spain and when you get there, there is one set of requirements when return home then in 24 hours it could be totally different. " So True | |||
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"I’m going to wait till end of Aug see what the situation is Hate to be a jonah but in August we will be preparing for lockdown 4 as we prepare for moving back indoors for autumn. I'm far from convinced that the vaccine is the panacea we are being told. That new guy who replaced Hancock has said he won't be doing any reverseing lol but can we believe anything they say Hope I'm wrong but... This is a very long way from over...amazing vaccine numbers seem to be doing very little to stop the spread. Here's irony... My lad and his mates didn't want to go to the pub to watch the footie as they didn't want to risk catching anything. Any govt minister can't predict the unpredictable. " I know but we can't live like this we don't know what tomorrow brings but hope brings a lot x | |||
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"Does anyone really think people returning from amber countries will isolate for 10 days " not many and the check team has 280 people for whole of Uk | |||
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"Going nowhere, surprised anyone wants us. Still we are so lucky being an island and having full control of our borders. " full control of our borders ...really...our borders have been comprised since day one...i know Chris Whitty had a view that replicated his successful approach to Ebola...a true Gent a real Medical Hero amd glad nay honoured to have met and worked for hom ..a quiet yet truly inspirational leader ..should be Sir Chris | |||
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"I’m going to wait till end of Aug see what the situation is Hate to be a jonah but in August we will be preparing for lockdown 4 as we prepare for moving back indoors for autumn. I'm far from convinced that the vaccine is the panacea we are being told. That new guy who replaced Hancock has said he won't be doing any reverseing lol but can we believe anything they say " That Bloke who was Chancellor and Home Secretary who told poor old lass in Syria to bugger off..a man with principles ...like his brother and other siblings, all of whom serve the Country daily | |||
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"They dont want us travelling thats why they have introduced the traffic light bullshit" Fully agree. They can t stop us travelling but want to make it a difficult as possible. Also with reguards to tests if your fully vaccinated most euro destinations dont want a test. Just need one to get home ? We have one transfered from last year which if they stick to amber ok if fully jabbed then we are going.as said earlier watch it all change when parliament shuts for summer break | |||
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"Does anyone really think people returning from amber countries will isolate for 10 days not many and the check team has 280 people for whole of Uk" Things will be changing on checks, going to be much tougher and many more physical checks at your place of residence with proof of ID required. The penalties for none compliance will also be tougher. | |||
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"Does anyone really think people returning from amber countries will isolate for 10 days not many and the check team has 280 people for whole of Uk Things will be changing on checks, going to be much tougher and many more physical checks at your place of residence with proof of ID required. The penalties for none compliance will also be tougher." It's not illegal to not answer your door and there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Unless people are caught outside their properties this is an empty threat. | |||
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"This is a very long way from over...amazing vaccine numbers seem to be doing very little to stop the spread. " The vaccine has kept most people out of hospital and alive. To say it's doing very little is ridiculous. | |||
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"Does anyone really think people returning from amber countries will isolate for 10 days not many and the check team has 280 people for whole of Uk Things will be changing on checks, going to be much tougher and many more physical checks at your place of residence with proof of ID required. The penalties for none compliance will also be tougher." I admire your optimism. My guess is nothing will change. | |||
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"This is a very long way from over...amazing vaccine numbers seem to be doing very little to stop the spread. The vaccine has kept most people out of hospital and alive. To say it's doing very little is ridiculous." Probably should read what I wrote again... | |||
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"I’ve let my passport run out so we’re not going anywhere abroad till I’ve sorted it! " I have renewed my passport recently hopefully will be able to travel somewhere safely in the next 10 years before it expires but I may be being a bit too optimistic? | |||
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"I’ve let my passport run out so we’re not going anywhere abroad till I’ve sorted it! " upu needd six m9nths to travel to most of the 208 Uan countries ...juat go to Falklands it super hot at times ..maybe n9t now | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine. Just heard an update on the radio from Simon Calder the travel journo. He says it's not so much that we may be permitted to exit by our government. Its that places are now putting up barriers to UK originating travellers as our infection rates are off the scale and they want to protect their own populations. We don't need to worry anymore about what we bring into this country. We are doing a marvellous job of spreading it on our own. If you're UK and already living on mainland Europe.. He reckons you just jump on a train or plane. No help to us living here of course. " Absolutely got a point… without naming the countries at this stage, if you lived in “country x” at your infection rate is 3.7 people per 100,000 people… would you let in people from “country y” who’s infection rate is close to 200 per 100,000 people? God no! I think it’s weird that you are all happy to say you closed the doors to those coming in from Brazil and India too late… but now complain that other countries now view you in the same way!!!! How very dare they!!!!!! The funny thing is that most of the countries on the UK government’s green list won’t either let you in anyway full stop… or won’t let you in without being a quarantine period | |||
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" I'm fully vaccinated, but a lot of people aren't even considering holidays abroad to amber countries. What's everyone's thoughts? I think people aren't scared of catching Covid abroad but can't face the hassle and cost of tests and quarantine. Just heard an update on the radio from Simon Calder the travel journo. He says it's not so much that we may be permitted to exit by our government. Its that places are now putting up barriers to UK originating travellers as our infection rates are off the scale and they want to protect their own populations. We don't need to worry anymore about what we bring into this country. We are doing a marvellous job of spreading it on our own. If you're UK and already living on mainland Europe.. He reckons you just jump on a train or plane. No help to us living here of course. Absolutely got a point… without naming the countries at this stage, if you lived in “country x” at your infection rate is 3.7 people per 100,000 people… would you let in people from “country y” who’s infection rate is close to 200 per 100,000 people? God no! I think it’s weird that you are all happy to say you closed the doors to those coming in from Brazil and India too late… but now complain that other countries now view you in the same way!!!! How very dare they!!!!!! The funny thing is that most of the countries on the UK government’s green list won’t either let you in anyway full stop… or won’t let you in without being a quarantine period " This situation is liable to go on for years. Either: (a) Desired destination has much higher covid rate than UK - in which case UK gov should have got the country on the red list, or if they will let you go there, you ought to be obliged to quarantine/test/etc on return. (b) Desired destination has much lower covid rate than UK - in which case destination gov should have got UK on _their_ red list and not want potential plague carriers entering their country. And of course, the rates are still changing so fast everywhere, that booking travel more than a week in advance gives very high probability of not being allowed to travel on the due date, or only allowed to travel with extra costs & time of quarantine/test/etc. And booking at last minute just before travel might let your outward journey work okay, but there is very likely to be nasty surprises in store by the time of return... | |||
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"Yeah I'm not risking it, we still haven't even had both vaccines yet. I wish everyone would just let everyone catch up before acting selfishly. " Just wandering how i survived all trips in last 15 months without vaccine | |||
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"We came back from a holiday abroad recently. No tests , no quarantine. We visited Scotland. " Good job you're not from the North West of England or Scotland wouldn't have let you in | |||
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"UK is second in the world, of the highest case's of delta virus, yet we are being told the restrictions will all be lifted.We are being encouraged to holiday at home,but travel abroad, from very early on this year has been made difficult. Personally, I'd feel safer going abroad than having a holiday here." If you don't test much then you will have low numbers, the UK is testing far more than other countries | |||
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"I can’t wait to go! " 2 weeks at a swingers resort in Mexico for us !! Not long now …. | |||
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"I can’t wait to go! 2 weeks at a swingers resort in Mexico for us !! Not long now …." Very nice! Enjoy | |||
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"I can’t wait to go! 2 weeks at a swingers resort in Mexico for us !! Not long now …. Very nice! Enjoy " Always room for a little one lol | |||
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"The conservatives have teased and played us on travel for a few months. The latest has been that there'll be no need to quarantine on return if double jabbed. Not giving definite plans keeps people and business in uncertainty, preventing good planning etc. " I'm not sure theres anyone in government who seems able to pull a coherent adaptable strategy together and communicate it effectively. | |||
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"This will be our third long haul holiday of the year. It’s really not that difficult nor stressful. And once there at both destinations we’ve visited the holiday has been thoroughly enjoyable and without incident. " Well you would think so the way the press make out everyone is confused. | |||
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"UK is second in the world, of the highest case's of delta virus, yet we are being told the restrictions will all be lifted.We are being encouraged to holiday at home,but travel abroad, from very early on this year has been made difficult. Personally, I'd feel safer going abroad than having a holiday here. If you don't test much then you will have low numbers, the UK is testing far more than other countries" This! If countries do 20000 tests per day of course they are gonna have a low number of positive tests. I think we do 1.2millions per day so… Btw I’ve been abroad and they must have called me 5 times upon returning… | |||
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"Basically it's a global pandemic because people insist on travelling ... simples I'm choosing not to travel ... simples Is "simples" a real word or just meerkat talk ?" Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages simple noun HISTORICAL plural noun: simples a medicinal herb, or a medicine made from one. "the gatherers of simples" Origin Middle English: from Old French, from Latin simplus . The noun sense (mid 16th century) originally referred to a medicine made from one constituent, especially from one plant. | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it." Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. " It's not hiding behind a sofa it's called being a sensible and responsible human, not a reckless and selfish person who boasts about availability and cheap prices. | |||
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"Basically it's a global pandemic because people insist on travelling ... simples I'm choosing not to travel ... simples Is "simples" a real word or just meerkat talk ? Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages simple noun HISTORICAL plural noun: simples a medicinal herb, or a medicine made from one. "the gatherers of simples" Origin Middle English: from Old French, from Latin simplus . The noun sense (mid 16th century) originally referred to a medicine made from one constituent, especially from one plant. " | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. It's not hiding behind a sofa it's called being a sensible and responsible human, not a reckless and selfish person who boasts about availability and cheap prices. " Reckless ? Selfish ? Get a grip man. Life is for living | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. " Where have you booked to enjoy from now? Have you had to cancel and refund any former ones? | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. It's not hiding behind a sofa it's called being a sensible and responsible human, not a reckless and selfish person who boasts about availability and cheap prices. " Your comment smacks of jealousy tbh! | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. It's not hiding behind a sofa it's called being a sensible and responsible human, not a reckless and selfish person who boasts about availability and cheap prices. Reckless ? Selfish ? Get a grip man. Life is for living " Well you enjoy living. Does a long haul holiday, 3rd of the year apparently, constitute living to you? I suggest there are equally great places in this country you could visit if you feel your life needs a holiday to make it worthwhile. Places that don't come with the risk of introducing new variants into the country. Variants which will eventually evade the vaccine. It makes me livid that anyone is travelling abroad or even thinking about it this year. Why, just why? | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. It's not hiding behind a sofa it's called being a sensible and responsible human, not a reckless and selfish person who boasts about availability and cheap prices. Reckless ? Selfish ? Get a grip man. Life is for living Well you enjoy living. Does a long haul holiday, 3rd of the year apparently, constitute living to you? I suggest there are equally great places in this country you could visit if you feel your life needs a holiday to make it worthwhile. Places that don't come with the risk of introducing new variants into the country. Variants which will eventually evade the vaccine. It makes me livid that anyone is travelling abroad or even thinking about it this year. Why, just why?" Damn right it does !! Lovely holidays abroad are a big part of life for us. I’ve also had some holidays within the UK this past 12 months and I’m sorry but they don’t compare to 5 star luxury with guaranteed fantastic weather. Explain to me how I’m going to come back with anything other than a great tan and a beaming smile ? I’ve had COVID (the dreaded South African variant that we were told to be terrified of). So I have antibodies. I’ve also been double jabbed. And I shall be taking a test 24 hours prior to flying home and if positive I can’t fly. I will then arrive home, and stay home for around 7 days where I will again test on day 2, day 5 and finally on day 10. So that’s 4 PCR tests across less then 2 weeks. Are you also planning on taking that amount of PCR tests ? Why do you think my holiday puts myself or anyone else at any more risk than those attending the football or other large scale events. | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. Where have you booked to enjoy from now? Have you had to cancel and refund any former ones? " I had to cancel many many flights that were booked before COVID. But of the trips I’ve booked since COVID existed no, so far not had to cancel as such. But I did have to extend a stay in South Africa considerably earlier this year. Which was great having to stay an extra few weeks (although my waistline & liver didn’t agree) | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. It's not hiding behind a sofa it's called being a sensible and responsible human, not a reckless and selfish person who boasts about availability and cheap prices. Reckless ? Selfish ? Get a grip man. Life is for living Well you enjoy living. Does a long haul holiday, 3rd of the year apparently, constitute living to you? I suggest there are equally great places in this country you could visit if you feel your life needs a holiday to make it worthwhile. Places that don't come with the risk of introducing new variants into the country. Variants which will eventually evade the vaccine. It makes me livid that anyone is travelling abroad or even thinking about it this year. Why, just why? Damn right it does !! Lovely holidays abroad are a big part of life for us. I’ve also had some holidays within the UK this past 12 months and I’m sorry but they don’t compare to 5 star luxury with guaranteed fantastic weather. Explain to me how I’m going to come back with anything other than a great tan and a beaming smile ? I’ve had COVID (the dreaded South African variant that we were told to be terrified of). So I have antibodies. I’ve also been double jabbed. And I shall be taking a test 24 hours prior to flying home and if positive I can’t fly. I will then arrive home, and stay home for around 7 days where I will again test on day 2, day 5 and finally on day 10. So that’s 4 PCR tests across less then 2 weeks. Are you also planning on taking that amount of PCR tests ? Why do you think my holiday puts myself or anyone else at any more risk than those attending the football or other large scale events." I never mentioned football or large scale events. In my opinion these should not be happening either. | |||
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"Take the risk if you want to, but don’t go whining to the media if you lose money I’m tired of seeing people moaning because they’ve booked a foreign holiday during a global pandemic and they’ve had to postpone it. Won’t hear any whines from us, just the clink of champagne glasses sat in first class enjoying another well earned holiday. I don’t book package holidays, I’m in control of my own flights and accommodation and all can be cancelled with 24 hours notice at no cost to myself. Love the easy availability and pricing whilst everyone is hiding behind their sofa. It's not hiding behind a sofa it's called being a sensible and responsible human, not a reckless and selfish person who boasts about availability and cheap prices. Reckless ? Selfish ? Get a grip man. Life is for living Well you enjoy living. Does a long haul holiday, 3rd of the year apparently, constitute living to you? I suggest there are equally great places in this country you could visit if you feel your life needs a holiday to make it worthwhile. Places that don't come with the risk of introducing new variants into the country. Variants which will eventually evade the vaccine. It makes me livid that anyone is travelling abroad or even thinking about it this year. Why, just why?" Because people want to get on with life??? Each to their own?? Personally I have no desire to go abroad never have! Looking forward to my week on isle of wight in august ! But people will do what suits them and who is anybody else to tell them they selfish? Tbh we as the human race all of us are selfish! X | |||
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