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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If they are going to delay the 21st opening they need to say so now.
Far to many businesses are investing a lot of money (which for many is a last throw of the dice) to open on June 21st and hope a successful summer helps stop them from going under.
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"Latest news update from Sky News, Scientist says “it’s to a bit early “ to lift COVID-19 restrictions on 21st of June and we more likely to get third wave of this deadly virus.
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Said it weeks ago on here - no chance of a 21st June opening. 1 death yesterday! |
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Said it weeks ago on here - no chance of a 21st June opening. 1 death yesterday! "
1 death in a day and lets stop 68 millions peoples living their lives, how stupid is that.
how many dies of other illness every single days and no one say anything. |
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Said it weeks ago on here - no chance of a 21st June opening. 1 death yesterday!
1 death in a day and lets stop 68 millions peoples living their lives, how stupid is that.
how many dies of other illness every single days and no one say anything. "
I that was your brother, sister, mother, father or child would you be saying the same thing?? Ignorant and selfish comment! Early you didn't lose anyone to covid? Lucky you! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm no expert, and I rarely follow the news on the subject now, but I was wondering how people believed June 21st was going to be the end of it all 
Especially those who believed the clubs would be fully reopened. |
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I that was your brother, sister, mother, father or child would you be saying the same thing?? Ignorant and selfish comment! Early you didn't lose anyone to covid? Lucky you! "
How is it selfish for wanting to have a normal life and not being driven by fear of death, (death is a part of life)
Stay home do not eat any sugar fatty food, don't drive in case you crash, don't smoke drink etc... as it might kill you.
get vaccinated and get on with it now.
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Data not dates. It was the mantra from January.
The May 17th relaxations were going to be the most risky, as they potentially brought so many people together, in to situations that could foster higher levels of problems.
We're still not in the place where we have all of the data yet, on how those lack of restrictions are affecting us all. And we still, each of us, have abilities to ensure that we get the data to a better point.
The Indian variant is a struggle for us and we need to ensure that it doesn't take too strong a hold.
I think we should have delayed the May 17th changes, to force the understanding that everything is still at risk and we each have to continue to behave to restrain infection levels and to get the country to the right point for relaxing restrictions even further.
I sense that most people took it as a done deal that we were as good as already at June 21st.  |
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"Data not dates. It was the mantra from January.
The May 17th relaxations were going to be the most risky, as they potentially brought so many people together, in to situations that could foster higher levels of problems.
We're still not in the place where we have all of the data yet, on how those lack of restrictions are affecting us all. And we still, each of us, have abilities to ensure that we get the data to a better point.
The Indian variant is a struggle for us and we need to ensure that it doesn't take too strong a hold.
I think we should have delayed the May 17th changes, to force the understanding that everything is still at risk and we each have to continue to behave to restrain infection levels and to get the country to the right point for relaxing restrictions even further.
I sense that most people took it as a done deal that we were as good as already at June 21st. "
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Well they might actually follow the "Science/Data" ....they surely must have some kind of learning curve by now ?? after eat out to help out ....etc etc etc ...but we won't be holding our breathe just do our own funky stuff and have a massive lesbian sex orgy ...NOT  |
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" Well they might actually follow the "Science/Data" ....they surely must have some kind of learning curve by now ?? after eat out to help out ....etc etc etc ...but we won't be holding our breathe just do our own funky stuff and have a massive lesbian sex orgy ...NOT "
Exercise common sense, ignore the government, save lives |
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Said it weeks ago on here - no chance of a 21st June opening. 1 death yesterday!
1 death in a day and lets stop 68 millions peoples living their lives, how stupid is that.
how many dies of other illness every single days and no one say anything.
I that was your brother, sister, mother, father or child would you be saying the same thing?? Ignorant and selfish comment! Early you didn't lose anyone to covid? Lucky you! "
What about all the people who've lost loved one who couldn't get help or urgent treatment due to the fixation with Covid at the expense of everything else? If you were one of them how would you feel? If your loved one had just been told his/her cancer had progressed to stage 4 because they weren't treated in time? Would you be being ignorant and selfish?
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By *ik MMan
over a year ago
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"Data not dates. It was the mantra from January.
The May 17th relaxations were going to be the most risky, as they potentially brought so many people together, in to situations that could foster higher levels of problems.
We're still not in the place where we have all of the data yet, on how those lack of restrictions are affecting us all. And we still, each of us, have abilities to ensure that we get the data to a better point.
The Indian variant is a struggle for us and we need to ensure that it doesn't take too strong a hold.
I think we should have delayed the May 17th changes, to force the understanding that everything is still at risk and we each have to continue to behave to restrain infection levels and to get the country to the right point for relaxing restrictions even further.
I sense that most people took it as a done deal that we were as good as already at June 21st. "
If it was truly about data not dates then we’d have been fully open weeks ago. As it is current rates are way ahead of the best case predictions of Imperial College.
Next you’ll be telling us that if we hold back we might be allowed to celebrate Christmas this year |
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Plus we never ever ever ever really had a proper lock down ?? like where we live in the south west ...400 thousand heading here to the holiday parks etc etc ...everything mostly fully booked and how many are coming from the Indian variant hot spots ..insanity on a grand scale that beggars belief but having a populist government lead by ideology always ends well..just ask ..Brazil etc etc etc or even go back further in history ... |
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Of course there will be a third wave, and a fourth and a fifth, but that in itself does not matter, its how well our vaccinated bodies and the NHS cope with it that's important.
We have seasonal waves of flu, are we counting how many waves we have had of that? No, as it's generally under control.
Fingers crossed that with the vaccine rollout, future waves will not hit us as badly as the initial ones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course there will be a third wave, and a fourth and a fifth, but that in itself does not matter, its how well our vaccinated bodies and the NHS cope with it that's important.
We have seasonal waves of flu, are we counting how many waves we have had of that? No, as it's generally under control.
Fingers crossed that with the vaccine rollout, future waves will not hit us as badly as the initial ones. "
The nail hit on the head with this post one of works front line NHS, it’s a numbers game from here on in |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Hospital admissions, seriously ill and people on ventilation should be the new yard stick now. These figures have remained steady
Also we need to be telling people how many of those in the category above have and have not been vaccinated.
It's time for public health and the government to be far more stern and transparent about how this is reported. |
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"Be interesting to see what the reaction will be if it is pushed back,they have been riding this vaccine wave for while now.
Further pushbacks will not go down well."
I fear it'll be Christmas all over again, albeit on a smaller scale (yay we're opening - oh wait no we're not). I'm not sure anyone can take much more of this. |
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"Be interesting to see what the reaction will be if it is pushed back,they have been riding this vaccine wave for while now.
Further pushbacks will not go down well.
I fear it'll be Christmas all over again, albeit on a smaller scale (yay we're opening - oh wait no we're not). I'm not sure anyone can take much more of this."
I think another lockdown would see major opposition. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Be interesting to see what the reaction will be if it is pushed back,they have been riding this vaccine wave for while now.
Further pushbacks will not go down well.
I fear it'll be Christmas all over again, albeit on a smaller scale (yay we're opening - oh wait no we're not). I'm not sure anyone can take much more of this."
I think the same, some people are not going to take the news well, others will accept it’s for best interests. Obviously some will still deny it too  |
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"Be interesting to see what the reaction will be if it is pushed back,they have been riding this vaccine wave for while now.
Further pushbacks will not go down well.
I fear it'll be Christmas all over again, albeit on a smaller scale (yay we're opening - oh wait no we're not). I'm not sure anyone can take much more of this.
I think another lockdown would see major opposition. "
I'd be pretty fucking pissed off. Yes, even me. |
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"Be interesting to see what the reaction will be if it is pushed back,they have been riding this vaccine wave for while now.
Further pushbacks will not go down well.
I fear it'll be Christmas all over again, albeit on a smaller scale (yay we're opening - oh wait no we're not). I'm not sure anyone can take much more of this.
I think another lockdown would see major opposition.
I'd be pretty fucking pissed off. Yes, even me."
It does seem to be a total repeat of that whole Kent variant episode.
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"Be interesting to see what the reaction will be if it is pushed back,they have been riding this vaccine wave for while now.
Further pushbacks will not go down well.
I fear it'll be Christmas all over again, albeit on a smaller scale (yay we're opening - oh wait no we're not). I'm not sure anyone can take much more of this.
I think another lockdown would see major opposition.
I'd be pretty fucking pissed off. Yes, even me.
It does seem to be a total repeat of that whole Kent variant episode.
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I'm so tired. Sigh. |
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At the moment all we can do is speculate, Boris keeps saying that we are still on track for a further easing of restrictions on 21st. The data is suggesting that all the headline figures had dropped to their lowest level for a long time but have stopped declining, but then the modelling was forcasring modest increases in infections in line with each easing of restrictions.
Ultimately, the decision will rely on the "government's" interpretation of the data as it sits in their chosen model, plus their own assessment of political implications of the given choices.
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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Said it weeks ago on here - no chance of a 21st June opening. 1 death yesterday!
1 death in a day and lets stop 68 millions peoples living their lives, how stupid is that.
how many dies of other illness every single days and no one say anything. "
That’s my point! |
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In the end it is just a matter of wait and see and having everything crossed and be interesting as some have said what reaction there might be if ...but doubt it if anything will happen as people still believe in Boris/Alex and he's pretty much teflon coated the hardest things are coming down the tracks though and then .. |
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"Be interesting to see what the reaction will be if it is pushed back,they have been riding this vaccine wave for while now.
Further pushbacks will not go down well.
I fear it'll be Christmas all over again, albeit on a smaller scale (yay we're opening - oh wait no we're not). I'm not sure anyone can take much more of this.
I think another lockdown would see major opposition. "
Rightly so.
Scaremongering propaganda at its finest.
This only ends when you decide enough is enough.
Once you give your freedoms up, you don’t get them back. Been said from the outset. You’re seeing this play out now.
You reap what you sow.
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"Be interesting to see what the reaction will be if it is pushed back,they have been riding this vaccine wave for while now.
Further pushbacks will not go down well.
I fear it'll be Christmas all over again, albeit on a smaller scale (yay we're opening - oh wait no we're not). I'm not sure anyone can take much more of this.
I think another lockdown would see major opposition.
Rightly so.
Scaremongering propaganda at its finest.
This only ends when you decide enough is enough.
Once you give your freedoms up, you don’t get them back. Been said from the outset. You’re seeing this play out now.
You reap what you sow.
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I believe you've over estimated the influence you have over the situation. It doesn't "end when you decide" it will end when the virus is no longer a threat.
In the UK we are bordering on being in control of it here, but then we have to consider the impact of foreign travel too. I can see the domestic unlocking continuing as planned, but foriegn holidays and other international travel could take another year (or more) to get back to normal.
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Said it weeks ago on here - no chance of a 21st June opening. 1 death yesterday!
1 death in a day and lets stop 68 millions peoples living their lives, how stupid is that.
how many dies of other illness every single days and no one say anything.
I that was your brother, sister, mother, father or child would you be saying the same thing?? Ignorant and selfish comment! Early you didn't lose anyone to covid? Lucky you! "
One death is a terrible tragic but death is an unfortunate fact of life.
On average 5 people die in the UK in road accidents, do you call to ban all cars?
Do you drink? On average 20 people die a day from alcohol related illness... are you calling to ban alcohol?
Clearly we can’t allow Covid deaths to get back into the hundreds per day but we do have to accept some level.
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Said it weeks ago on here - no chance of a 21st June opening. 1 death yesterday!
1 death in a day and lets stop 68 millions peoples living their lives, how stupid is that.
how many dies of other illness every single days and no one say anything. "
Just been out this morning. Seems to me that plenty of people. (I'd probably say most) seem to be living their lives. Sun's shining. Didn't seem like we were being restricted from doing anything... |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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We are being told that all/most being hospitalised in Indian variant hotspots are unvaccinated... well I bloody well hope so or else what is the bloody point of the vaccines?
It’s a bit “no shit sherlock!”
As has been said above the key factor is not number of cases it is number of hospitalisations. Is the NHS in those areas overwhelmed?
The other factor that we need to know is whether the proportion of people within a specific age band that are getting hospitalised is changing compared to before the vaccine rollout. To be clear, not the proportion that make up the numbers in hospital (we already know more younger people than other groups) but whether the proportion compared to population number across UK of that group.
This will show whether the pattern of infection and severity of infection has changed. |
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!"
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
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"We are being told that all/most being hospitalised in Indian variant hotspots are unvaccinated... well I bloody well hope so or else what is the bloody point of the vaccines?
It’s a bit “no shit sherlock!”
As has been said above the key factor is not number of cases it is number of hospitalisations. Is the NHS in those areas overwhelmed?
The other factor that we need to know is whether the proportion of people within a specific age band that are getting hospitalised is changing compared to before the vaccine rollout. To be clear, not the proportion that make up the numbers in hospital (we already know more younger people than other groups) but whether the proportion compared to population number across UK of that group.
This will show whether the pattern of infection and severity of infection has changed."
I'd be intrigued if they repeated the test events now what the outcome would be now that community infections are increasing fairly rapidly in the age groups who would attend. Better still repeat it in leicester or Bolton or hounslow and see the outcome. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I’d personally like to thank the selfish wankers who took off to India and brought it back with them
Didn’t isolate
Didn’t quarantine
Just gathered in their masses and spread it everywhere
Cheers
Let it affect their lives
Not mind
Let there be another wave
But please not another lockdown |
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back "
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts "
I agree...but not the dirty bastards part. |
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts "
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards” |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards” "
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards”
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument "
Or perhaps the potentially racist bit ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards”
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument
Or perhaps the potentially racist bit ..."
Exactly‘potentially’
You’re really hoping it is aren’t you ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards”
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument
Or perhaps the potentially racist bit ...
Exactly‘potentially’
You’re really hoping it is aren’t you ?"
Actually, I’m hoping it’s not but you pick your own meanings for “that little bit” |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards”
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument
Or perhaps the potentially racist bit ...
Exactly‘potentially’
You’re really hoping it is aren’t you ?
Actually, I’m hoping it’s not but you pick your own meanings for “that little bit”"
Just feels like ( in true forum style ) you’re waiting to attack |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards”
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument
Or perhaps the potentially racist bit ...
Exactly‘potentially’
You’re really hoping it is aren’t you ?
Actually, I’m hoping it’s not but you pick your own meanings for “that little bit”
Just feels like ( in true forum style ) you’re waiting to attack "
I’m not known for my attack. |
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"Adding to our block list by the minute  "
That’s funny
Please add me
I love how golf like you assume that everyone would have to contact you because you’re so great
Blind stupid and arrogant
Block awayyyyyyyyyyy |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards”
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument
Or perhaps the potentially racist bit ...
Exactly‘potentially’
You’re really hoping it is aren’t you ?
Actually, I’m hoping it’s not but you pick your own meanings for “that little bit”
Just feels like ( in true forum style ) you’re waiting to attack
I’m not known for my attack. "
That’s good |
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"Adding to our block list by the minute
That’s funny
Please add me
I love how golf like you assume that everyone would have to contact you because you’re so great
Blind stupid and arrogant
Block awayyyyyyyyyyy"
Folk
Not golf |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards”
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument
Or perhaps the potentially racist bit ...
Exactly‘potentially’
You’re really hoping it is aren’t you ?
Actually, I’m hoping it’s not but you pick your own meanings for “that little bit”
Just feels like ( in true forum style ) you’re waiting to attack
I’m not known for my attack.
That’s good "
I said potentially to give them chance to explain, showing I was open to change my initial assumption.
However, in my experience, anyone who says ‘FACT’ in capitals is usually trying to slam the door/phone down because they’re closed minded and unwilling to be open to any other viewpoint.....
I don’t tend to attack. I’m more reasonable than that. |
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"Adding to our block list by the minute
That’s funny
Please add me
I love how golf like you assume that everyone would have to contact you because you’re so great
Blind stupid and arrogant
Block awayyyyyyyyyyy"
Wow. What a response.... #truecolours |
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"Adding to our block list by the minute
That’s funny
Please add me
I love how golf like you assume that everyone would have to contact you because you’re so great
Blind stupid and arrogant
Block awayyyyyyyyyyy
Wow. What a response.... #truecolours "
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Ooooo. I missed a “ not racism BUT FACT”
A double whammy. Racism and a capitalised FACT. so it must be true. End of discussion.
Leaves thread without looking back
How is it racist
They went to India
They brought it back and broke all the rules
Whether it was India or Australia
Facts are facts
I’ll let them explain what they meant by “the dirty bastards”
There’s a whole host of other information in that post but let’s focus on that little bit for a better argument
Or perhaps the potentially racist bit ...
Exactly‘potentially’
You’re really hoping it is aren’t you ?
Actually, I’m hoping it’s not but you pick your own meanings for “that little bit”
Just feels like ( in true forum style ) you’re waiting to attack
I’m not known for my attack.
That’s good
I said potentially to give them chance to explain, showing I was open to change my initial assumption.
However, in my experience, anyone who says ‘FACT’ in capitals is usually trying to slam the door/phone down because they’re closed minded and unwilling to be open to any other viewpoint.....
I don’t tend to attack. I’m more reasonable than that. "
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Yes deaths maybe low and we have a large amount of people vaccinated and getting there's every day, however giving the virus a chance to spread again gives it more opportunities to mutate. It only takes that one person to catch it for a variant to form. We've been lucky that all variants so far are protected by the vaccines. One bad mutation and we could end up right back at square one. It's a critical situation and not over by a long shot. |
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!"
From my experience anyone who shouts FACT is usually wrong to a greater degree ..
My worry is who exactly are the 'dirty bastards' you refer to? Because it isn't clear..
Are they uk people not vaccinated returning to the uk ? Because there's plenty of them around not dirty bastards though ( apart from being on Fab..if they are! ) likely they are quite mucky I'd say!...
Or are you referring to someone else? And again I wouldn't call them dirty..lots can't get vaccinations yet in their own country you know!..that said the UK continuing to let people in who are not safe is crazy.. But they never learn and they keep making mistakes..unfortunately that sort of attitude is what will keep the waves and the variants coming. .
Air travel should not have started a cross the world until people had been vaccinated in my opinion .. But they would lose the tourist pound then wouldn't they! :/ |
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"I’d personally like to thank the selfish wankers who took off to India and brought it back with them
Didn’t isolate
Didn’t quarantine
Just gathered in their masses and spread it everywhere
Cheers
Let it affect their lives
Not mind
Let there be another wave
But please not another lockdown "
Did you know the ‘Indian variant’ mutated here in the U.K. It wasn’t actually imported. It just mutated naturally into the same variant that’s in India.
The government are lying through their arses and want you to remain scared so they can keep you under control.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’d personally like to thank the selfish wankers who took off to India and brought it back with them
Didn’t isolate
Didn’t quarantine
Just gathered in their masses and spread it everywhere
Cheers
Let it affect their lives
Not mind
Let there be another wave
But please not another lockdown
Did you know the ‘Indian variant’ mutated here in the U.K. It wasn’t actually imported. It just mutated naturally into the same variant that’s in India.
The government are lying through their arses and want you to remain scared so they can keep you under control.
Take a bow
I love a good conspiracy theory
Always good for a laugh
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"Yes deaths maybe low and we have a large amount of people vaccinated and getting there's every day, however giving the virus a chance to spread again gives it more opportunities to mutate. It only takes that one person to catch it for a variant to form. We've been lucky that all variants so far are protected by the vaccines. One bad mutation and we could end up right back at square one. It's a critical situation and not over by a long shot."
I think we have also bought into and are now spreading the large number vaccinated trope. Only 49 per cent of adults have had both doses. That's a very long way short of herd immunity by vaccine. Which if I remember was predicted as somewhere between 70 and 92 per cent from a year ago. So actually
.. Compared to some countries we have more people vaccinated... But I'm not sure it's large. And I'm not sure its currently doing any good to stop the surge in infections and hospitalisations.
Infections up over 30 % today and hospitalisations up over 20 % today. We have a problem anyway you observe it. |
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I don’t understand why people are reading so much into the constant media stories. It’s just clickbait. Every day a newspaper asks a ‘scientist’ there opinion and they say something that is then slapped across the news like it’s gospel
Look at the data. Zero deaths yesterday for the first time since this all started. And the PM himself once again reiterating he sees no signs that could delay the roadmap
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"I’d personally like to thank the selfish wankers who took off to India and brought it back with them
Didn’t isolate
Didn’t quarantine
Just gathered in their masses and spread it everywhere
Cheers
Let it affect their lives
Not mind
Let there be another wave
But please not another lockdown
Did you know the ‘Indian variant’ mutated here in the U.K. It wasn’t actually imported. It just mutated naturally into the same variant that’s in India.
The government are lying through their arses and want you to remain scared so they can keep you under control.
Take a bow
I love a good conspiracy theory
Always good for a laugh
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And this comment proves why the country will never get out of this.
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"I don’t understand why people are reading so much into the constant media stories. It’s just clickbait. Every day a newspaper asks a ‘scientist’ there opinion and they say something that is then slapped across the news like it’s gospel
Look at the data. Zero deaths yesterday for the first time since this all started. And the PM himself once again reiterating he sees no signs that could delay the roadmap
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The numbers are never true over the weekend
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"I’d personally like to thank the selfish wankers who took off to India and brought it back with them
Didn’t isolate
Didn’t quarantine
Just gathered in their masses and spread it everywhere
Cheers
Let it affect their lives
Not mind
Let there be another wave
But please not another lockdown
Did you know the ‘Indian variant’ mutated here in the U.K. It wasn’t actually imported. It just mutated naturally into the same variant that’s in India.
The government are lying through their arses and want you to remain scared so they can keep you under control.
Take a bow
I love a good conspiracy theory
Always good for a laugh
And this comment proves why the country will never get out of this.
Sad."
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
From my experience anyone who shouts FACT is usually wrong to a greater degree ..
My worry is who exactly are the 'dirty bastards' you refer to? Because it isn't clear..
Are they uk people not vaccinated returning to the uk ? Because there's plenty of them around not dirty bastards though ( apart from being on Fab..if they are! ) likely they are quite mucky I'd say!...
Or are you referring to someone else? And again I wouldn't call them dirty..lots can't get vaccinations yet in their own country you know!..that said the UK continuing to let people in who are not safe is crazy.. But they never learn and they keep making mistakes..unfortunately that sort of attitude is what will keep the waves and the variants coming. .
Air travel should not have started a cross the world until people had been vaccinated in my opinion .. But they would lose the tourist pound then wouldn't they! :/"
Agreed. Even Andy Burnham stated a few weeks ago this was largely brought about by those travelling back from India and not quarantining / isolating effectively. |
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
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"Latest news update from Sky News, Scientist says “it’s to a bit early “ to lift COVID-19 restrictions on 21st of June and we more likely to get third wave of this deadly virus.
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Because ONE advisor said so ?
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"Latest news update from Sky News, Scientist says “it’s to a bit early “ to lift COVID-19 restrictions on 21st of June and we more likely to get third wave of this deadly virus.
Because ONE advisor said so ?
Let's all get in a flap and be scared then. "
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I that was your brother, sister, mother, father or child would you be saying the same thing?? Ignorant and selfish comment! Early you didn't lose anyone to covid? Lucky you!
The question you have to ask did covid alone kill the person or did it contibute to an already under lying health issue
On the first lockdown someone I know father died of sepsis they wouldnt let him in to see him even in his final moments
An guess what they put on the death certificate that's right covid! Because they were told to
How is it selfish for wanting to have a normal life and not being driven by fear of death, (death is a part of life)
Stay home do not eat any sugar fatty food, don't drive in case you crash, don't smoke drink etc... as it might kill you.
get vaccinated and get on with it now.
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over a year ago
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"Latest news update from Sky News, Scientist says “it’s to a bit early “ to lift COVID-19 restrictions on 21st of June and we more likely to get third wave of this deadly virus.
Because ONE advisor said so ?
Let's all get in a flap and be scared then.
Scared of?"
The impending 3rd wave ?
Do keep up. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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Well in UK since the start of the pandemic last 6 days from now we have had no deaths,but we have around 3000 cases of people infected with the virus, do could be the possibility. Or the heat we have now kills the virus. |
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Just took my grabdaons to Blackgang chine isle of wight. today for the first time in over a year. Absolutely rammed packed. No social distancing whatsoever. So get the popcorn out and watch for the figures to rise on the island. It is gridlocked with tourists. Took me 1 hr to drive a 10 min journey. I pray it wnt happen |
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"Just took my grabdaons to Blackgang chine isle of wight. today for the first time in over a year. Absolutely rammed packed. No social distancing whatsoever. So get the popcorn out and watch for the figures to rise on the island. It is gridlocked with tourists. Took me 1 hr to drive a 10 min journey. I pray it wnt happen"
Sorry grandsons hahaha
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Pretty certain the 'dirty bastards' bit is racism and not fact. "
Dirty bastards...? Does it even mention race? (not defending the choice of words but we do love to throw the racism word out like confetti) |
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!"
FACT IS. RACISM. unless you mean other travellers but pretty sure you don't.
What a terrible thing to say. Shame on you |
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
Pretty certain the 'dirty bastards' bit is racism and not fact.
Dirty bastards...? Does it even mention race? (not defending the choice of words but we do love to throw the racism word out like confetti) "
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I that was your brother, sister, mother, father or child would you be saying the same thing?? Ignorant and selfish comment! Early you didn't lose anyone to covid? Lucky you!
How is it selfish for wanting to have a normal life and not being driven by fear of death, (death is a part of life)
Stay home do not eat any sugar fatty food, don't drive in case you crash, don't smoke drink etc... as it might kill you.
get vaccinated and get on with it now.
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The people saying this shit are the selfish ones. They want more lockdowns for what? To protect people? That boat sailed long ago but most were too woke to care. |
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Just a few thoughts around this topic, perhaps to share out loud. I don’t believe this wave sequence will stop. Wave three, then wave four and so on. The world has changed, and YOU included. Economies are down, entire industries are at risk, local shop owners/SME’s are shutting down (or about to), business advise employees to work from home, school are adopting remote learning and we have all been groomed to being isolated.
Do you really believe things will ever go back to pre-covid?.. billions have been spent on this current form of “normal” and millions of people have lost their jobs/at risk of loosing their income, with that, comes further debt challenges (mortgage, loans ..etc). I don’t believe that this global governments initiative/direction is only about COVID. The data doesn’t point to anything tangible in the sense that is more alarming than accidental road deaths, suicides, influenza deaths, cancer just to name a few- perhaps COVID is at the bottom of that list from death/year ratio. Whether your for vaccines or against them, for lockdown and isolating or demanding your “normal” day back - this change is irreversible. One thing that actually lacks data is the long-term effect of vaccines in protecting from different virus strains or from potential long term side effects/disabilities resulting from taking the vaccine, not just one producer but multiple Pharma producing different types of vaccines.
There is no selfishness or ignorance in wanting to go back to our “normal” daily routine. We are social by nature and isolating is not something anyone prepared for. Certainly not for this length of time. It’s not like we have a choice in the matter to decide for anything anymore - big brother is doing all the decisions on your behalf
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I that was your brother, sister, mother, father or child would you be saying the same thing?? Ignorant and selfish comment! Early you didn't lose anyone to covid? Lucky you!
How is it selfish for wanting to have a normal life and not being driven by fear of death, (death is a part of life)
Stay home do not eat any sugar fatty food, don't drive in case you crash, don't smoke drink etc... as it might kill you.
get vaccinated and get on with it now.
The people saying this shit are the selfish ones. They want more lockdowns for what? To protect people? That boat sailed long ago but most were too woke to care. "
I'm not sure anyone who describes people as "woke" can be taken seriously.
Nobody actually wants lockdowns, but people have been killed by the virus so it is understandable that people are concerned by it. I personally know several people who have died due to the virus, and several more who are suffering months of health issues despite being previously healthy.
The ideal situation is for as many people as possible (globally) to be vaccinated as quickly as possible. This will effectively remove the problem, protect people from getting sick and reduce the rate of mutations. |
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"Just a few thoughts around this topic, perhaps to share out loud. I don’t believe this wave sequence will stop. Wave three, then wave four and so on. The world has changed, and YOU included. Economies are down, entire industries are at risk, local shop owners/SME’s are shutting down (or about to), business advise employees to work from home, school are adopting remote learning and we have all been groomed to being isolated.
Do you really believe things will ever go back to pre-covid?.. billions have been spent on this current form of “normal” and millions of people have lost their jobs/at risk of loosing their income, with that, comes further debt challenges (mortgage, loans ..etc). I don’t believe that this global governments initiative/direction is only about COVID. The data doesn’t point to anything tangible in the sense that is more alarming than accidental road deaths, suicides, influenza deaths, cancer just to name a few- perhaps COVID is at the bottom of that list from death/year ratio. Whether your for vaccines or against them, for lockdown and isolating or demanding your “normal” day back - this change is irreversible. One thing that actually lacks data is the long-term effect of vaccines in protecting from different virus strains or from potential long term side effects/disabilities resulting from taking the vaccine, not just one producer but multiple Pharma producing different types of vaccines.
There is no selfishness or ignorance in wanting to go back to our “normal” daily routine. We are social by nature and isolating is not something anyone prepared for. Certainly not for this length of time. It’s not like we have a choice in the matter to decide for anything anymore - big brother is doing all the decisions on your behalf
Thoughts?"
My thought is that this is nonsense |
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There is no selfishness or ignorance in wanting to go back to our “normal” daily routine. We are social by nature and isolating is not something anyone prepared for. Certainly not for this length of time. It’s not like we have a choice in the matter to decide for anything anymore - big brother is doing all the decisions on your behalf
Thoughts?"
Whilst it isn't selfish to WANT everything to get back to normal, it is most certainly selfish to be willing to risk other people's health and well-being to achieve it.
As for Big-Brother! I think it may be worth reading the book (George Orwell's 1984) if you want to make a real comparison... we're certainly not there yet.
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"Just a few thoughts around this topic, perhaps to share out loud. I don’t believe this wave sequence will stop. Wave three, then wave four and so on. The world has changed, and YOU included. Economies are down, entire industries are at risk, local shop owners/SME’s are shutting down (or about to), business advise employees to work from home, school are adopting remote learning and we have all been groomed to being isolated.
Do you really believe things will ever go back to pre-covid?.. billions have been spent on this current form of “normal” and millions of people have lost their jobs/at risk of loosing their income, with that, comes further debt challenges (mortgage, loans ..etc). I don’t believe that this global governments initiative/direction is only about COVID. The data doesn’t point to anything tangible in the sense that is more alarming than accidental road deaths, suicides, influenza deaths, cancer just to name a few- perhaps COVID is at the bottom of that list from death/year ratio. Whether your for vaccines or against them, for lockdown and isolating or demanding your “normal” day back - this change is irreversible. One thing that actually lacks data is the long-term effect of vaccines in protecting from different virus strains or from potential long term side effects/disabilities resulting from taking the vaccine, not just one producer but multiple Pharma producing different types of vaccines.
There is no selfishness or ignorance in wanting to go back to our “normal” daily routine. We are social by nature and isolating is not something anyone prepared for. Certainly not for this length of time. It’s not like we have a choice in the matter to decide for anything anymore - big brother is doing all the decisions on your behalf
Thoughts?"
I'm thinking... I went out today... And saw normality... Shops.. People.. Work.. Not entirely sure what it is that we are locked down from doing anymore..other than large events. I could understand the gnashing of teeth if we were not allowed out of our houses... |
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I'm thinking... I went out today... And saw normality... Shops.. People.. Work.. Not entirely sure what it is that we are locked down from doing anymore..other than large events. I could understand the gnashing of teeth if we were not allowed out of our houses... "
For me, I am missing being able to go out and play gigs with my bands... and having sex with strangers at swinging clubs. I am however willing to wait a bit longer until we're allowed.
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I'm thinking... I went out today... And saw normality... Shops.. People.. Work.. Not entirely sure what it is that we are locked down from doing anymore..other than large events. I could understand the gnashing of teeth if we were not allowed out of our houses...
For me, I am missing being able to go out and play gigs with my bands... and having sex with strangers at swinging clubs. I am however willing to wait a bit longer until we're allowed.
Cal"
Well...me too.. We've swapped messages before... We share a passion for gigs.. But that will come eventually... I think we need to get community rates lower and vaccine rates higher before that happens.
But... I don't feel we are even close to being locked down. Everyone's allowed out.. To hug or not to hug... (as Shakespeare once said)... Pubs, restaurants, shops, gyms, pools, aiports are all open and doing a roaring trade |
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The problem we have now is the kids with the briefcase you laughed at and took the Micky out of at school went on to be a scientist who are now in demand and the most popular they have ever been,they won’t relinquish this popularity without a fight. |
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"The problem we have now is the kids with the briefcase you laughed at and took the Micky out of at school went on to be a scientist who are now in demand and the most popular they have ever been,they won’t relinquish this popularity without a fight."
"The Geek will inherit the earth" |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Just took my grabdaons to Blackgang chine isle of wight. today for the first time in over a year. Absolutely rammed packed. No social distancing whatsoever. So get the popcorn out and watch for the figures to rise on the island. It is gridlocked with tourists. Took me 1 hr to drive a 10 min journey. I pray it wnt happen"
So one of those who helped pack out blackgang chine is complaining how packed our it is,wonder how many others said the same,however the fact is cases didnt rise last summer when exactly the same thing happened, cases stayed low until autumn |
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"Just a few thoughts around this topic, perhaps to share out loud. I don’t believe this wave sequence will stop. Wave three, then wave four and so on. The world has changed, and YOU included. Economies are down, entire industries are at risk, local shop owners/SME’s are shutting down (or about to), business advise employees to work from home, school are adopting remote learning and we have all been groomed to being isolated.
Do you really believe things will ever go back to pre-covid?.. billions have been spent on this current form of “normal” and millions of people have lost their jobs/at risk of loosing their income, with that, comes further debt challenges (mortgage, loans ..etc). I don’t believe that this global governments initiative/direction is only about COVID. The data doesn’t point to anything tangible in the sense that is more alarming than accidental road deaths, suicides, influenza deaths, cancer just to name a few- perhaps COVID is at the bottom of that list from death/year ratio. Whether your for vaccines or against them, for lockdown and isolating or demanding your “normal” day back - this change is irreversible. One thing that actually lacks data is the long-term effect of vaccines in protecting from different virus strains or from potential long term side effects/disabilities resulting from taking the vaccine, not just one producer but multiple Pharma producing different types of vaccines.
There is no selfishness or ignorance in wanting to go back to our “normal” daily routine. We are social by nature and isolating is not something anyone prepared for. Certainly not for this length of time. It’s not like we have a choice in the matter to decide for anything anymore - big brother is doing all the decisions on your behalf
Thoughts?
I'm thinking... I went out today... And saw normality... Shops.. People.. Work.. Not entirely sure what it is that we are locked down from doing anymore..other than large events. I could understand the gnashing of teeth if we were not allowed out of our houses... "
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If they are going to delay the 21st opening they need to say so now.
Far to many businesses are investing a lot of money (which for many is a last throw of the dice) to open on June 21st and hope a successful summer helps stop them from going under.
KJ"
To late for lots and I see a back step as in closing Indoor hospitality next. |
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!
FACT IS. RACISM. unless you mean other travellers but pretty sure you don't.
What a terrible thing to say. Shame on you"
Take away the racist undertones and look at the actual facts here.
The Indian variant was brought back from India.
Vaccine hesitancy is high in the Indian community
We need to start publishing data that tells you how many people are in hospital that refused the vaccine. |
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I just find it extremely odd. US has been declining cases. No mask mandate no mention of a new wave. Businesses opened. Yet UK has a higher vaccination rate the ours. |
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"I just find it extremely odd. US has been declining cases. No mask mandate no mention of a new wave. Businesses opened. Yet UK has a higher vaccination rate the ours."
Have you let over 60k travellers in on direct flights from India since the infections started going through the roof in India? |
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"I just find it extremely odd. US has been declining cases. No mask mandate no mention of a new wave. Businesses opened. Yet UK has a higher vaccination rate the ours.
Have you let over 60k travellers in on direct flights from India since the infections started going through the roof in India? "
No we did not that clarified things thanks. |
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"I just find it extremely odd. US has been declining cases. No mask mandate no mention of a new wave. Businesses opened. Yet UK has a higher vaccination rate the ours.
Have you let over 60k travellers in on direct flights from India since the infections started going through the roof in India?
No we did not that clarified things thanks."
I'm sure it won't be the only reason. But when you look at the stats of the number of passengers who were tested positive on arrival its surely a big contributor. |
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Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure |
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure"
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying. |
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying. "
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble. |
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying.
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble. "
Without wanting to bore you all I've been studying this data since January. This is the first time since April I can remember such an uplift. Might be a blip but this week and next should be interesting. |
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying.
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble.
Without wanting to bore you all I've been studying this data since January. This is the first time since April I can remember such an uplift. Might be a blip but this week and next should be interesting. "
Doesn’t bore me at all lol I find it quite interesting and it’s good to see where we might be heading. Definitely a swift uplift, I keep my eye on the deaths though as I think that’s a key indicator just how bad things are getting and they are going down, to even a day of no deaths. Hopefully it will last |
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying.
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble.
Without wanting to bore you all I've been studying this data since January. This is the first time since April I can remember such an uplift. Might be a blip but this week and next should be interesting. "
What about the data today that it’s the lowest deaths across 7 days since September. And lowest death count yesterday since it started. How have u studied that data |
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying.
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble.
Without wanting to bore you all I've been studying this data since January. This is the first time since April I can remember such an uplift. Might be a blip but this week and next should be interesting.
What about the data today that it’s the lowest deaths across 7 days since September. And lowest death count yesterday since it started. How have u studied that data "
So that was yesterday. Today we have had 12 deaths. The more people that get admitted to hospital the more they risk having to go on ventilation. The more people on ventilation the more people risk death |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying. "
One day is irrelevant, as it will be affected by the bank holiday, the seven day average is what the government will go on. The numbers in hospital are the important ones |
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying.
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble.
Without wanting to bore you all I've been studying this data since January. This is the first time since April I can remember such an uplift. Might be a blip but this week and next should be interesting.
Doesn’t bore me at all lol I find it quite interesting and it’s good to see where we might be heading. Definitely a swift uplift, I keep my eye on the deaths though as I think that’s a key indicator just how bad things are getting and they are going down, to even a day of no deaths. Hopefully it will last"
Yes hopefully it will last and we don't need to worry about deaths or long covid increasing. The pattern so far in the previous 3 waves has been infections go up... 2 to 3 weeks later hospitalisations go up... 2 to 3 weeks later deaths go up. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying.
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble.
Without wanting to bore you all I've been studying this data since January. This is the first time since April I can remember such an uplift. Might be a blip but this week and next should be interesting.
Doesn’t bore me at all lol I find it quite interesting and it’s good to see where we might be heading. Definitely a swift uplift, I keep my eye on the deaths though as I think that’s a key indicator just how bad things are getting and they are going down, to even a day of no deaths. Hopefully it will last
Yes hopefully it will last and we don't need to worry about deaths or long covid increasing. The pattern so far in the previous 3 waves has been infections go up... 2 to 3 weeks later hospitalisations go up... 2 to 3 weeks later deaths go up. "
The patterns previously were before the vaccine programme got into big numbers .
What people are forgetting is we had all these scare stories about packed beaches etc last year, cases didnt rise, they only went up when autumn came and people spent more time indoors, we also now have nearly half the adult population fully vaccinated so the risk is now very small. There is one section of society that is still at risk, we all know which one but it appears the government and the media both lack the balls to.say so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Can't believe people are still falling for this complete nonsense from these lying politicians. It's unbelievable, even Cummings has come out basically saying they are lying bas#%rds and should all be sacked.
To continue listening to and even believing what these people say is just beyond insane. |
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying.
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble.
Without wanting to bore you all I've been studying this data since January. This is the first time since April I can remember such an uplift. Might be a blip but this week and next should be interesting.
What about the data today that it’s the lowest deaths across 7 days since September. And lowest death count yesterday since it started. How have u studied that data
So that was yesterday. Today we have had 12 deaths. The more people that get admitted to hospital the more they risk having to go on ventilation. The more people on ventilation the more people risk death"
You do realise that this is like waiting for Flu to be eradicated before we (get back to normal) in other words Never.
This man-made disease isn't going anywhere, so we have to learn to get on with our lives.
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"Third wave inevitably will be here. However the data is looking promising, very little deaths with the Indians variant at the moment, it’s mainly just positive tests. Bolton hospital had a critical event but other hospitals are taking some of the load.
All in all I don’t think another lockdown is the right move for the moments, although I do think we need to delay the freedom day a little just to make sure
Today's data isn't. It's actually quite worrying.
I agree I think they are... And merit investigating until a better informed decision can be made. Rather than a gamble.
Without wanting to bore you all I've been studying this data since January. This is the first time since April I can remember such an uplift. Might be a blip but this week and next should be interesting.
Doesn’t bore me at all lol I find it quite interesting and it’s good to see where we might be heading. Definitely a swift uplift, I keep my eye on the deaths though as I think that’s a key indicator just how bad things are getting and they are going down, to even a day of no deaths. Hopefully it will last
Yes hopefully it will last and we don't need to worry about deaths or long covid increasing. The pattern so far in the previous 3 waves has been infections go up... 2 to 3 weeks later hospitalisations go up... 2 to 3 weeks later deaths go up.
The patterns previously were before the vaccine programme got into big numbers .
What people are forgetting is we had all these scare stories about packed beaches etc last year, cases didnt rise, they only went up when autumn came and people spent more time indoors, we also now have nearly half the adult population fully vaccinated so the risk is now very small. There is one section of society that is still at risk, we all know which one but it appears the government and the media both lack the balls to.say so. "
It would be good to know of those in hospital... Age range and vaccine status.. It might give some comfort to folks... Or not. Of course we wouldn't normally give two hoots about flu vaccine or any other vaccine status... But the need for info is because a lot of people don't believe a lot of the messages we are being fed and also... To your point... Want to stop the dancing around the problems... |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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We will come out of restrictions on the 21st regardless as Bojo has staked his reputation on it and he knows it is somethin the electorate would never forgive or forget after waiting so long .a third wave he will hope to bumble blather and obfuscate through |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"only 1 way it's got into the country & the dirty bastards are NOT even haven the vaccination jabs!!!
not racism BUT FACT !!!"
That is a bit like blaming people from Kent for lockdown 2 and an extra 4 months… after all… those dirty Kent bastards most have gotten it from somewhere!!!
Not racism… BUT FACT!!!!!!
My god… sometimes you just can’t teach dumb! 
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"We will come out of restrictions on the 21st regardless as Bojo has staked his reputation on it and he knows it is somethin the electorate would never forgive or forget after waiting so long .a third wave he will hope to bumble blather and obfuscate through "
I fear this is right |
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We were told back in January that the vaccines are the silver bullet and it looks as they are !
Covid19 deaths are averaging less than single figures per day, yet deaths from cancer are running at 450 a day.
Covid19 is here to stay, we either get on and live with it or just forget ever living a normal life ever again ! |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"We will come out of restrictions on the 21st regardless as Bojo has staked his reputation on it and he knows it is somethin the electorate would never forgive or forget after waiting so long .a third wave he will hope to bumble blather and obfuscate through "
I’m not so sure |
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"We will come out of restrictions on the 21st regardless as Bojo has staked his reputation on it and he knows it is somethin the electorate would never forgive or forget after waiting so long .a third wave he will hope to bumble blather and obfuscate through "
When did he or anyone else stake any reputation in it.? At all points from announcement to now it has been at pains to say it will be data not date led and each stage is dependent on the key measures (these are obviously top secret as we can't be trusted with them) being met and that they are "no earlier than" dates. |
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"We will come out of restrictions on the 21st regardless as Bojo has staked his reputation on it and he knows it is somethin the electorate would never forgive or forget after waiting so long .a third wave he will hope to bumble blather and obfuscate through
When did he or anyone else stake any reputation in it.? At all points from announcement to now it has been at pains to say it will be data not date led and each stage is dependent on the key measures (these are obviously top secret as we can't be trusted with them) being met and that they are "no earlier than" dates. "
I'm not sure anyone heard "data not dates" though. Or at least most didn't. |
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"We will come out of restrictions on the 21st regardless as Bojo has staked his reputation on it and he knows it is somethin the electorate would never forgive or forget after waiting so long .a third wave he will hope to bumble blather and obfuscate through
When did he or anyone else stake any reputation in it.? At all points from announcement to now it has been at pains to say it will be data not date led and each stage is dependent on the key measures (these are obviously top secret as we can't be trusted with them) being met and that they are "no earlier than" dates.
I'm not sure anyone heard "data not dates" though. Or at least most didn't."
I'm not surprised that people hear what they want to hear. Especially after what has been a really tough 18 months. But seriously the fucking media.. "freedom day" it's so irresponsible. Freedom from what exactly...? Makes me so fucking angry... I've had emails this morning from some one telling me the govt made up the 130k deaths. As if it matters to people who have lost loved ones. I don't trust the govt or big pharma.. But I trust selfish twats whose only motivations seem selfish and to bully and belittle others even less. |
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"We will come out of restrictions on the 21st regardless as Bojo has staked his reputation on it and he knows it is somethin the electorate would never forgive or forget after waiting so long .a third wave he will hope to bumble blather and obfuscate through
When did he or anyone else stake any reputation in it.? At all points from announcement to now it has been at pains to say it will be data not date led and each stage is dependent on the key measures (these are obviously top secret as we can't be trusted with them) being met and that they are "no earlier than" dates.
I'm not sure anyone heard "data not dates" though. Or at least most didn't.
I'm not surprised that people hear what they want to hear. Especially after what has been a really tough 18 months. But seriously the fucking media.. "freedom day" it's so irresponsible. Freedom from what exactly...? Makes me so fucking angry... I've had emails this morning from some one telling me the govt made up the 130k deaths. As if it matters to people who have lost loved ones. I don't trust the govt or big pharma.. But I trust selfish twats whose only motivations seem selfish and to bully and belittle others even less. "
That must hurt. I'm sorry |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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Well Portugal is now amber was green before because of increase number of cases so if this continues we'll be going backwards and forwards for some time unless other countries catch up with the vaccine rollout so might as well look forward to 2023 |
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