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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
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After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic! |
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!"
So are you saying that you think that you might have been infected with covid in December 2019?
Have you ruled out other things that present with flu like symptoms (such as flu)?
To be honest, making a self diagnosis of something that you had 18 months ago based on a vague recollection of symptoms is probably not the most reliable. If you've not been vaccinated, you could get an anti body test. |
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A friend of mine also had symptoms as you've described back at the end of November 2019, and he too was convinced that it had been covid... until he did get covid.
He describes covid as being "a million times worse" than anything he'd had in his life (yes I know he's a drama queen), and he needed a night in hospital on oxygen. He also passed it on to his wife & two kids, and three people at work. Thankfully everyone is now OK.
He now doesn't think that the infection he had in 2019 was actually covid at all.
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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
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The symptoms I endured than any previous flu I had in previous years; I could actually hear myself breathing, especially at night, was coughing up thick phlegm after I lay down on the pillow, and was exhausted to the point that walking became difficult. That continued for several months.
Thankfully now I have been doubles vaccinated and feel back in top form, with a daily walking regime, no cough and no noisy breathing.
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!"
You said it yourself, you never bothered to go to your GP, so your self diagnosis could have been totally wrong.
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It's perfectly feasible it was around in late 2019 and passed off as bad flu in a lot of people. I know someone, a very for man in training for swimming the Channel, who had a horrendous 'chest infection' in November/December 2019.he did go to his Dr's but at the time they knew little about the new coronavirus so was (perhaps) misdiagnosed. |
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Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
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As you were so ill, why didn't you go to the GP ? |
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!"
Wait hold on, so you knew about covid, displayed the symptoms of covid but never bothered to seek medical advice?
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!
Wait hold on, so you knew about covid, displayed the symptoms of covid but never bothered to seek medical advice?
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Probably because we didn't know what the main symptoms of corona virus were back then?! |
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!
Wait hold on, so you knew about covid, displayed the symptoms of covid but never bothered to seek medical advice?
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No one in the UK knew about covid back in December 2019 as it was only reported from Wuhan very late in December 2019.
However, it had obviously been in circulation prior to that or it could not have been given an identity.
People had been travelling from Wuhan in the meantime and it is therefore very possible that some had carried it with them and could have affected people in the UK. Just as now, people's experience of the virus would have varied and lots of people don't rush off to the gp as they know things normally resolve by themselves |
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!
Wait hold on, so you knew about covid, displayed the symptoms of covid but never bothered to seek medical advice?
Probably because we didn't know what the main symptoms of corona virus were back then?! "
Maybe but if you follow the timeline it was all over the news mid December.
It was official in the UK on the 22nd January.
My question is if someone is that ill like the OP explains, why did they not seek professional medical advice.
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!"
what's the point of this post OP,it serves no purpose? |
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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
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The principal point is that it serves to elicit other people's experiences and opinions, which I personally find useful.
I have a policy of not going to my GP except when I really need to do so.
Viruses cannot be treated by antibiotics, which doctors prescribe much too easily, that has resulted in an antibiotics resistance crisis worldwide.
I manage my own health and wellbeing as best I can myself. The worried well waste a lot of their doctors' valuable time.
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"The principal point is that it serves to elicit other people's experiences and opinions, which I personally find useful.
I have a policy of not going to my GP except when I really need to do so.
Viruses cannot be treated by antibiotics, which doctors prescribe much too easily, that has resulted in an antibiotics resistance crisis worldwide.
I manage my own health and wellbeing as best I can myself. The worried well waste a lot of their doctors' valuable time.
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As I would agree that not wasting your GP's time, your comment about viruses being not being treatable by antibiotics is incorrect. |
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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
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Antibiotics can be used to treat bacterial infections and fungal infections, but are useless against viruses.
In other parts of the world, such as the former Soviet Union and France, bacteriophages are used and are a more precisely targeted intervention.
Phage technology is being investigated here because of antibiotic resistance, partially caused by the widespread abuse of antibiotics in poultry and pig farming. |
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"Antibiotics can be used to treat bacterial infections and fungal infections, but are useless against viruses.
In other parts of the world, such as the former Soviet Union and France, bacteriophages are used and are a more precisely targeted intervention.
Phage technology is being investigated here because of antibiotic resistance, partially caused by the widespread abuse of antibiotics in poultry and pig farming."
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!"
This is my perspective which is current as I have Covid now, diagnosed on Saturday. For context, I have a condition that makes me susceptible to chest infections, of which I have had many, though partly down to Covid and it’s effect on societal behaviour, none for just over 2 years. For me, and I stress me, Covid has felt just like any other chest infection. I was surprised when the PCR test came back positive. The worst was bad, and lasted 3 days, but was no worse than some chest infections I have had (I am talking pneumonia though). My guess is lots of people who think they have had Covid, haven’t, they have just had a bad chest infection unless they have had some of the more unusual symptoms like complete loss of smell and taste (not just diminished). The only symptom I have that I don’t remember having with a bad chest infection is my taste buds have become hypersensitive to salt. |
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!
This is my perspective which is current as I have Covid now, diagnosed on Saturday. For context, I have a condition that makes me susceptible to chest infections, of which I have had many, though partly down to Covid and it’s effect on societal behaviour, none for just over 2 years. For me, and I stress me, Covid has felt just like any other chest infection. I was surprised when the PCR test came back positive. The worst was bad, and lasted 3 days, but was no worse than some chest infections I have had (I am talking pneumonia though). My guess is lots of people who think they have had Covid, haven’t, they have just had a bad chest infection unless they have had some of the more unusual symptoms like complete loss of smell and taste (not just diminished). The only symptom I have that I don’t remember having with a bad chest infection is my taste buds have become hypersensitive to salt. "
I'm the same, I've experienced the symptoms however tested negative everytime.
I had a test yesterday for going back to work so hopefully it will negative again. |
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!"
…well it is called Cov-19 for a reason  |
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"After having spoken to many people who suspected that they had the first symptoms of Covid-19 in late-2019, I went back through my diary yesterday to determine when I first felt unwell.
There it was in black and white on December 23 2019: "feeling unwell today; flu-like symptoms...; cough and difficulty breathing.."
Thereafter the symptoms got progressively worse, with extreme fatigue and audibly noisy breathing, especially at night.
I never bothered to go to my GP, but I knew there was something really severe acting on my system.
Eventually, the rasping cough disappeared, my energy levels returned to their former levels after six months, and my malaise lifted.
Thankfully I had managed to survive the 2019 pandemic!"
yes myself and wife had it then my wife spent day in hosp day care so we should have real antibodys |
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Very possible you had it back then. I had it in dec 2019 after returning from Milan. I ended up visiting hospital and was told it was a none descript viral infection. They tested me for flu and it was not flu. In milan while I'd been... there had been a pneumonia epidemic which now turns out to have been covid. In early april I took part in a research project about covid and was confirmed I had antibodies from covid 19.. so they are pretty sure my illness which is the most poorly I've ever been was covid |
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Agree totally that it was around before we knew it.
A non-descript viral chest infection ripped through many of my family, friends and workmates in Dec/Jan 19.
A healthy young man from West Yorkshire who was a teacher over in China sadly passed away in September 2019 having been hospitalised with a flu-type illness. China would not release his body to his family and was cremated over there.
I don’t believe for 1 minute this started back in December. |
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