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By *oey56 OP Man over a year ago

liverpool

A experimental drug that's hasn't been tested for long term problems. So after a year people start dying will they connect the dots to covid. Why would you take a chance on a experimental drug that once taken there's no going back. ! ??

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By *exy_HornyCouple over a year ago

Leigh

Most sensible people appreciate there is a small risk with the vaccine, as with any drug. They will take it as it provides protection not only to themselves but to the wider community.

It is called putting the needs of others before yourself.

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By *antingmore72Woman over a year ago

Hastings

Op clearly you haven't lost A loved one to covid? Imagined them lying there dying slowly, terrified and alone??? Not allowed any visitors, no one to hold your hand? This is how my 71year old father died in February.

The vaccine is there to help us through, not kill people so try getting a grip! There's no more small pox, did your children have the mmr jab? Then give it a sodding rest!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The same way you'd make any serious decision. Based on available information and your own moral direction. Probably not by consuming all the pointless conspiracy theories being peddled by easily led drama queens.

But that's just me, everyone's got their own set of rules for making decisions.

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By * AND R 777Couple over a year ago

Teesside

Yes let's test it for years and years, and let another 150,000 people die what a nice person you are

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

Where did you get your information from that it's not a vaccine? It's also been well tested and approved. Its only ok trial for those that signed up for it.

I took this game changing vaccine to protect myself, my family and those around me. Also had to for my job too.

I've encouraged my children that were eligible to have it and thankfully 3 have now had both vaccines

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes let's test it for years and years, and let another 150,000 people die what a nice person you are

Yep, hit the nail on the head

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Do I trust: a) a bunch of people online who claim *the* Covid vaccine (there are about eight licensed, something like that?) is an experimental drug and will cause *insert vague doom mongering based on at best faulty logic here*?

Or b) The scientific consensus as best as I understand it, validated by the regulatory agencies of the vast majority of countries around the world?

Hmm. Tough choice.

(I'm super excited to be getting my second vaccine

)

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

I see the tin foil muppet detection section on fab is still working well, maybe posts like this will encourage people to block the selfish idiots that start them

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Call it what you like in your ignorance but what you can't dispute is the fall in hospitalisation ICU patients and the massive drop in deaths..

If your really suggesting the figures from Jan are preferable to what we have now then you need to take a long look at your common sense and morals..

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By *ockosaurusMan over a year ago

Warwick

... and your not uneducated and listening to the lies of conspiracy theorists... oh!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Call it what you like in your ignorance but what you can't dispute is the fall in hospitalisation ICU patients and the massive drop in deaths..

If your really suggesting the figures from Jan are preferable to what we have now then you need to take a long look at your common sense and morals.."

I think there are two questions.

Will it help me? Will it help others?

The answer to number two seems to be yes, so, jab me baby one more time (with apologies to Britney

)

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By *hesblokeMan over a year ago

Derbyshire village

Someone told me they were implanting chips until I showed them what a microchip needle looked like....

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Call it what you like in your ignorance but what you can't dispute is the fall in hospitalisation ICU patients and the massive drop in deaths..

If your really suggesting the figures from Jan are preferable to what we have now then you need to take a long look at your common sense and morals..

I think there are two questions.

Will it help me? Will it help others?

The answer to number two seems to be yes, so, jab me baby one more time (with apologies to Britney

It's like we are in the shit and there's a way to get out but some can't accept vaccines work,is it because then the virus is just that..

And blows great big fuck off holes in the conspiracies..

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

Will people with things to say about the vaccine or comments please keep it to the forums rather than ranting about their conspiracy theories in my inbox.

Proud here to be part of the vaccine roll out and feel lucky to have had mine.

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By *ob08Man over a year ago

Macclesfield

Cyka blyat, I don't know what type of Kvass you're drinking but maybe time to switch to one that doesn't effect brain so much blin.

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By *oey56 OP Man over a year ago

liverpool

Mmmm could the end of the flu season be why there's a fall in infections. The inventor of the the test says that it's useless to test for covid. And no one thinks it's funny that the flu as all but disappeared. Along with many other diseases that take human lives. We're only getting one view point all the time. And anyone who dares speaks out and shows factual evidence is being pilloried . There always two sides and all voices should be heard. So people can make a balanced decision based on all the information at hand ! ??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes, its interesting that information relating to the dangers of being jabbed are swiftly removed from social media.

It's almost as if our masters are not happy for people to have information that will help them form their own opinions about what is being injected into them.

We can see that more people will be identifying as being transvaxxite at this rate.

For those who think it's a good idea then great.

Not anti vax, pro choice. Our bodies, our choice. X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why would you write such clap trap?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Mmmm could the end of the flu season be why there's a fall in infections. The inventor of the the test says that it's useless to test for covid. And no one thinks it's funny that the flu as all but disappeared. Along with many other diseases that take human lives. We're only getting one view point all the time. And anyone who dares speaks out and shows factual evidence is being pilloried . There always two sides and all voices should be heard. So people can make a balanced decision based on all the information at hand ! ??

Don't know about you, but I've heard the flu lines many times, and the bus line, and the PCR misquote, and many others besides.

I find them somewhere between unconvincing and drivel, personally.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

I think the maths speaks for its self with regards to how effective it is to prevent serious health conditions (including death).

If you are saying we don't know the long term impacts. Well football has been around over 100 years and we are still discovering new things like the long term impacts of heading the ball.

It has been tested up to the standards that we have.

If you are looking for a God garauntee which covers all unknowns there is only one of them going.

You have been born and that has a 100% mortality rate.

Surely we can close the virus threads now given there are more important things to talk about, like is my dick big enough.

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

Firstly there is not one experimental drug, there are several and they are not any more experimental than paracetamol. Some use vaccine technology not previously deployed in populations but all are based on vaccination technology that has been undergoing years of testing. I do have questions regards the risk/benefits for those under 30 but for those over 50 without a vaccine allergy history just get bloody jabbed

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By *oey56 OP Man over a year ago

liverpool

A small risk thousands have died with a direct connection with the experimental drug. Two experimental drug have been suspended out of the 4 manufacturers. The two that are still trading they have the highest related deaths. All not reported by the world's greatest enemy mainstream media ! ??

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

You've yet to show anything factual at all, there's scientific success this far with the means to get this virus to manageable levels and there's a bunch of people spouting nonsense conspiracies..

You are like myself a child once born in a time when we have the benefit of polio, tb etc being eradicated by and large now but appear to not accept the same means for this virus, strange doesn't quite fit it..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"A small risk thousands have died with a direct connection with the experimental drug. Two experimental drug have been suspended out of the 4 manufacturers. The two that are still trading they have the highest related deaths. All not reported by the world's greatest enemy mainstream media ! ??"

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

So is there one experimental drug?

Because you seem to suggest that two of them have been suspended. Which seems to suggest that there's more than one.

And I could be losing it, lockdown is hard plus maybe the experimental drug causes dementia, but I could have sworn that all the trial and rollout pauses have been covered in the media in enormous detail. Even on the BBC

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Citations please. Oh and social media doesn't count.

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By *oey56 OP Man over a year ago

liverpool

The fly which takes world wide between 1 million to half a million. Deaths each year has all but disappeared. World wide flu deaths are down by 98 % world wide. And many other lethal diseases have also disappeared. I find that very strange also why is mainstream media ignoring such evidence of the scam ! ??

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By *bsinthe_boyMan over a year ago

Luton

OP ...I assume you can provide peer reviewed papers which support your...umm.... words...

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By *issmorganWoman over a year ago

Calderdale innit

I've had covid and I work in healthcare with some v vulnerable people. If you don't want to have it that's your choice, it's mine and others choice to have it.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

If you are just going to make shit up then your not really even someone who is a healthy skeptic.

Skeptics are good even nessary.

Making shit up is basically lying, I can do it too.

Mainstream media are also not reporting the millions of people who died due to eating cornflakes. If you disagree you are a sheep and a fake news spreader.

See its easy to spout crap with no peer reviewed evidence.

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By *issmorganWoman over a year ago

Calderdale innit

"Op clearly you haven't lost A loved one to covid? Imagined them lying there dying slowly, terrified and alone??? Not allowed any visitors, no one to hold your hand? This is how my 71year old father died in February.

The vaccine is there to help us through, not kill people so try getting a grip! There's no more small pox, did your children have the mmr jab? Then give it a sodding rest!! "

So sorry for your loss xx

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By *udistcpl1Couple over a year ago

Wirral

Reading junk like this just helps extend our block list.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

If you are just going to make shit up then your not really even someone who is a healthy skeptic.

Skeptics are good even nessary.

Making shit up is basically lying, I can do it too.

Mainstream media are also not reporting the millions of people who died due to eating cornflakes. If you disagree you are a sheep and a fake news spreader.

See its easy to spout crap with no peer reviewed evidence. "

Yes.

Healthy robust questioning is a good thing. Vital.

This discredits it when it's needed.

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By *oey56 OP Man over a year ago

liverpool

Not if you're one of the thousands that die and not being reported. It's no small sacrifice for them and their families. Two of the experimental drug manufacturers have been suspended. The two that are left still trading have the highest numbers in death figures relating to the experimental drug ! ??

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

" Not if you're one of the thousands that die and not being reported. It's no small sacrifice for them and their families. Two of the experimental drug manufacturers have been suspended. The two that are left still trading have the highest numbers in death figures relating to the experimental drug ! ??"

I'll take my chances

Looking forward to my second jab. And third if needed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And again, citations please. FB posts and Bitchute videos are not allowed. Got anything factual at all except repeated phrases?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I also love that thousands of deaths from a vaccine is a scandal but millions from a disease we can vaccinate against is not.

All medicines have side effects. That's not a secret. Nothing is infallible.

Do we want thousands dead, or millions dead? Do the millions count less?

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Yawn

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By *ilks123Man over a year ago

wf1

The vaccine is there to help us through, not kill people so try getting a grip! There's no more small pox, did your children have the mmr jab? Then give it a sodding rest!! "

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

Yep and if I say the cornflakes sentence twice that adds no further evidence.

Also if it's not reported, how do you know?

Also your arguments conflict.

One drug v multiple drugs.

Deaths down but deaths up secretly, expect to the people who only report to you.

Comedy gold, I doubt you came top in the school debate team.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yep and if I say the cornflakes sentence twice that adds no further evidence.

Also if it's not reported, how do you know?

Also your arguments conflict.

One drug v multiple drugs.

Deaths down but deaths up secretly, expect to the people who only report to you.

Comedy gold, I doubt you came top in the school debate team. "

Conspiracy: so clever the smartest minds in the world are oblivious. So obvious random people on the internet see it.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

OP give your head a wobble, ask yourself a realistic question.

Do you honestly think that the government would intentionally poison 60plus million people with a drug that may kill them?

Then look around the world by your logic billions are Going to die by the vaccine.

Really?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

OP give your head a wobble, ask yourself a realistic question.

Do you honestly think that the government would intentionally poison 60plus million people with a drug that may kill them?

Then look around the world by your logic billions are Going to die by the vaccine.

Really?"

Even if you think the UK government are that terrible - look at all the nations more or less agreeing that these vaccines are vital.

When do this many countries agree on anything

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By *oey56 OP Man over a year ago

liverpool

My question is why would you take something that's irreversible and permanent . If you don't know what's going to happen to you. Or you've offspring in the future. There's are 4 or 5 well documented cures for covid. Yet we're being pushed into taking a experimental drug. That they've admitted doesn't protect you doesn't stop you from transmitting the virus. When you have tried and tested cures just something not right here! ??

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

I think some are just on to troll now. They don't believe the conspiracies but gives them a thrill to wind up those passionate about this subject due to real life experiences and personal loss.

I'm guilty of feeding the troll, should have left it to die.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My question is why would you take something that's irreversible and permanent . If you don't know what's going to happen to you. Or you've offspring in the future. There's are 4 or 5 well documented cures for covid. Yet we're being pushed into taking a experimental drug. That they've admitted doesn't protect you doesn't stop you from transmitting the virus. When you have tried and tested cures just something not right here! ??"

The fact that you've avoided every opportunity to state your source and facts for these statements speaks volumes.

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By *eyondhornyMan over a year ago

Abercynon-ish

You are spouting vague and unproven nonsense that you feel should be given the same weight as all the other news/info out there. You clearly have no ability to apply critical thinking. Less time spent on conspiracy theories and more on living your life would be my suggestion.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

No point arguing with this logic

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

What are these cures for Covid, please? I assume you're writing your paper to prove it.

I'm taking a vaccine because of the evidence that vaccination saves lives with very low risk, and that long term effects are more or less known. (I'm on a clinical trial so my personal risk may be higher)

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Do I trust: a) a bunch of people online who claim *the* Covid vaccine (there are about eight licensed, something like that?) is an experimental drug and will cause *insert vague doom mongering based on at best faulty logic here*?

Or b) The scientific consensus as best as I understand it, validated by the regulatory agencies of the vast majority of countries around the world?

Hmm. Tough choice.

(I'm super excited to be getting my second vaccine

Well put!

I have enrolled to be a volunteer for the 3rd vaccine in the autumn - naturally I hope there will be no major adverse effects but I feel it is necessary to do so for future generations.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Or b) The scientific consensus as best as I understand it, validated by the regulatory agencies of the vast majority of countries around the world?

Hmm. Tough choice.

(I'm super excited to be getting my second vaccine

)

Well put!

I have enrolled to be a volunteer for the 3rd vaccine in the autumn - naturally I hope there will be no major adverse effects but I feel it is necessary to do so for future generations."

Thank you.

I'm on the Valneva trial.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is getting beyond satire. Truly delusional nonsense.

Cures? Ok list them with citations from the medical literature. I'd love to see this. Does one of them include drinking bleach?

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By *I TwoCouple over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

You should be more concerned about what's in your food and drink.

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By *I TwoCouple over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

And the air you breathe

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

This is getting beyond satire. Truly delusional nonsense.

Cures? Ok list them with citations from the medical literature. I'd love to see this. Does one of them include drinking bleach? "

I'm betting on HCQ, vitamin D, zinc, ivermectin.

Funny how the bar for "cure" is underground but the bar for "safe vaccine" is out near Pluto

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

Hey OP!!!

I am willing to listen without being quick to judge. You seem very worried (afraid even)!

You would be doing everyone else a service if you could actually share your sources of information so the rest of us can read up.

You gotta understand fella, that failure to provide any evidence is gonna get you dismissed out of hand and likely ridiculed by some.

So do yourself a favour (and the rest of us) and bloody well share your sources like you have been asked!!!!!!

There’s a good chap.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

This is getting beyond satire. Truly delusional nonsense.

Cures? Ok list them with citations from the medical literature. I'd love to see this. Does one of them include drinking bleach?

I'm betting on HCQ, vitamin D, zinc, ivermectin.

Funny how the bar for "cure" is underground but the bar for "safe vaccine" is out near Pluto

Not zinc surely.

In some people, zinc might cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, metallic taste, kidney and stomach damage, and other side effects.

They would not espouse such a toxic drug as zinc supplements.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

What poppycock OP.

I understand that you do not understand the scientific evidence of the various vaccines. Wouldn't it be easier just to say that? Instead of making false claims, backed up by zilch. None of us can know everything, there's no shame in that, it's natural.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wrote a big response then realised I really couldnt be bothered anymore. But I did learn that like 2500 lefties die a year from trying to use right handed people stuff. I'm more concerned about that (being a leftie) than the vaccine

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

Most sensible people appreciate there is a small risk with the vaccine, as with any drug. They will take it as it provides protection not only to themselves but to the wider community.

It is called putting the needs of others before yourself."
It is also caring for yourself people get vaccinated to protect themselves firstly

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"What poppycock OP.

But we can understand that our actions have consequences. Posting alarming claims that could cause anxiety and needless concern, is rightly banned in many places and carries penalties. It's either thoughtless pr deliberately ignorant or malicious. Get some help, if you struggle with the fully and freely available facts. "
Sophie you are so polite if I said what I thought of this poster I would get another ban.I feel it is the OP should be banned but will not happen strange

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

The vaccine is there to help us through, not kill people so try getting a grip! There's no more small pox, did your children have the mmr jab? Then give it a sodding rest!! "

I feel for you. Sorry for your loss. I had the same with my mum in January.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Reputable scientific arenas are fully open, supported the publication of credible evidence. The lack of good evidence to support anything but the freely available facts, suggests that you're probably looking in all of the wrong places, or making up conclusions that don't fit the reality.

This virus has been surrounded by perhaps the most substantial research in world history. It's phenomenal what is known and understood, just over a year after it hit us. There are some morally bankrupt sources peddling lies that wish to undermine this country. Whose side are you on? We need this country and the rest of the world to minimise the harm to its people. The UK needs to rebuild its economy - we won't get there if we all disconnect from reality.

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By *aggy dollsCouple over a year ago

Bradford

If you are just going to make shit up then your not really even someone who is a healthy skeptic.

Skeptics are good even nessary.

Making shit up is basically lying, I can do it too.

Mainstream media are also not reporting the millions of people who died due to eating cornflakes. If you disagree you are a sheep and a fake news spreader.

See its easy to spout crap with no peer reviewed evidence. "

Well that me having frosties for breakfast in the morning then (phew dodged a bullet there)

Mr H.

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By *ockosaurusMan over a year ago

Warwick

"I wrote a big response then realised I really couldnt be bothered anymore. But I did learn that like 2500 lefties die a year from trying to use right handed people stuff. I'm more concerned about that (being a leftie) than the vaccine"

Seriously?

They should ban right-handed stuff and make the world safer!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

This is getting beyond satire. Truly delusional nonsense.

Cures? Ok list them with citations from the medical literature. I'd love to see this. Does one of them include drinking bleach?

I'm betting on HCQ, vitamin D, zinc, ivermectin.

Funny how the bar for "cure" is underground but the bar for "safe vaccine" is out near Pluto

Not zinc surely.

In some people, zinc might cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, metallic taste, kidney and stomach damage, and other side effects.

They would not espouse such a toxic drug as zinc supplements.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"What poppycock OP.

But we can understand that our actions have consequences. Posting alarming claims that could cause anxiety and needless concern, is rightly banned in many places and carries penalties. It's either thoughtless pr deliberately ignorant or malicious. Get some help, if you struggle with the fully and freely available facts. Sophie you are so polite if I said what I thought of this poster I would get another ban.I feel it is the OP should be banned but will not happen strange"

Take care Emma. There's strength in numbers against the silly falsehoods that people have been hoodwinked with. That so many of us have first hand experience of the catastrophic distress this virus has imposed on people, including some of those posting here, who've lost loved ones, demonstrates the insensitivity of some others.

There's never a question that's too stupid to ask here. If OP would like to understand more, they will get great information and advice in a new post.

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By *atelotmanMan over a year ago

Chatham

I see the same old crap about the jab killing 1000s, but no proof as normal.If you dont want the jab, that up to you. But stop spouting unfounded crap,

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

100% agree people need correct information for those that have the skills to make an informed choice. But seriously mate you lose credibility coming with the flu and other illnesses stuff and the pcr tests stuff... They've all been disproved and or explained may times over.

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"I see the same old crap about the jab killing 1000s, but no proof as normal.If you dont want the jab, that up to you. But stop spouting unfounded crap,"
well said, it's just scaremongering

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"I see the same old crap about the jab killing 1000s, but no proof as normal.If you dont want the jab, that up to you. But stop spouting unfounded crap,"

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"A experimental drug that's hasn't been tested for long term problems. So after a year people start dying will they connect the dots to covid. Why would you take a chance on a experimental drug that once taken there's no going back. ! ??"
stop scaremongering and spouting crap if you don't want it don't take it, We have had relatives that died last year from covid who never got chance to have vaccine

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Seriously?

They should ban right-handed stuff and make the world safer! "

seconded!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Seriously?

They should ban right-handed stuff and make the world safer! "

We need to do something to make the world safer for us

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Seriously?

They should ban right-handed stuff and make the world safer!

seconded! "

Righties have human rights too

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Seriously?

They should ban right-handed stuff and make the world safer!

seconded!

Righties have human rights too

"
Sorry, I got carried away when I read the 2500 leftie stuff... I have an allergic reaction when I hear words like "lefties" - it makes me post weird things

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

The vaccine stays in your body for a very short time, it doesn't alter your genes etc, it gives your body a jump start in fighting covid if you catch it.

Why wouldn't anyone take something that helps protect themselves and others around them?

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By *oroRick1027Man over a year ago

Middlesbrough

OP has gone very quiet

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Seriously?

They should ban right-handed stuff and make the world safer!

seconded!

They don't call it the loony left for nothing... "

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"OP has gone very quiet"
he knows he's full of crap, starts something and shuts up

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"The fly which takes world wide between 1 million to half a million. Deaths each year has all but disappeared. World wide flu deaths are down by 98 % world wide. And many other lethal diseases have also disappeared. I find that very strange also why is mainstream media ignoring such evidence of the scam ! ??"
oh dear. Is it so had to actually research this properly yourself. The flu disappearance is actually very simple. As is the reason many haven't fallen ill with norovirus or colds this past winter... the practices put into place to keep the much more contagious covid 19 virus in check, has had the pleasant but not so shocking effect of effectively reducing almost to nothing other infections.

Previous years people would have gone into work,school,doctors, shopping etc coughing and sneezing their germs all around.... last winter they didnt..!!!!!

That added to masks , better hygiene and keeping away from each other means that these less contagious illnesses failed to pass around.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"OP has gone very quiethe knows he's full of crap, starts something and shuts up"

Wasn't expecting such rigorous disagreement, probably

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

Untrue, deaths and reactions reported to the yellow card scheme ARE NOT proven to be linked to the vaccine.

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By *ethnmelvCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

Covid does not have a cure. Their are treatments that mitigate some of the worst aspects. But you do not cure people of Covid. The body builds up antibodies to stop the virus. If the body is overwhelmed you die. The Vaccine helps build up resistance to the virus and mitigates its impact, meaning that people will either not get Covid or will get a milder form.

Covid will not go away, it will circulate, like flu, and will need to be innoculated against - probably annually going forward.

I find it astonishing that you don’t remember how many people suffered in ICU, how many people are now suffering in India and Brazil and how many people have lost their lives due to this virus.

By all means have an opinion, but measure it against the facts and not tin (pot) hat conspiracy theories

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By *hesblokeMan over a year ago

Derbyshire village

It's funny that the hidden account that messaged us with links and sources for various things with the thread title as the message title hasn't posted them here.

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

All of this statement is actually wrong. Firstly they are ALL vaccines. There are actually loads of different vaccines now and they used various different technologies, even the "new & groundbreaking" Pfizer is based on technologies first created in the 1980s. This means that in each case 99% of the constituent of the vaccine has had decades of testing, only the bit that makes the vaccine specific to covid is NEW.

In addition to these facts, there is also the historical data that shows that in 90% of cases, adverse effects to new medicines and vaccines happen within the first two months.

Cal

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

Just received the following from a couple that shall remain nameless and are too shy to show their profile on the site but willing to spread misinformation directly to sensible members.

Lots of people have no side effect because they are likely to be given a placebo

The vaccine are still in stage 3 trails.

Heres all the links below to check for yourself.

Here are the clinical trial end dates for the experimental Pfizer, Moderna & Oxford AstraZeneca mRNA/DNA technologies:

?Pfizer mRNA BNT162b1: 31 Jan. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

?Moderna mRNA-1273: 27 Oct. 2022

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427

?Oxford AstraZeneca AZD1222: 14 Feb. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746

Some people really are clueless and belive every bit of crap spouted on Facebook

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By *hesblokeMan over a year ago

Derbyshire village

"Just received the following from a couple that shall remain nameless and are too shy to show their profile on the site but willing to spread misinformation directly to sensible members.

Lots of people have no side effect because they are likely to be given a placebo

The vaccine are still in stage 3 trails.

Heres all the links below to check for yourself.

Here are the clinical trial end dates for the experimental Pfizer, Moderna & Oxford AstraZeneca mRNA/DNA technologies:

?Pfizer mRNA BNT162b1: 31 Jan. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

?Moderna mRNA-1273: 27 Oct. 2022

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427

?Oxford AstraZeneca AZD1222: 14 Feb. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746

Some people really are clueless and belive every bit of crap spouted on Facebook

That's the one! And I thought they only loved me enough to send that!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just received the following from a couple that shall remain nameless and are too shy to show their profile on the site but willing to spread misinformation directly to sensible members.

Lots of people have no side effect because they are likely to be given a placebo

The vaccine are still in stage 3 trails.

Heres all the links below to check for yourself.

Here are the clinical trial end dates for the experimental Pfizer, Moderna & Oxford AstraZeneca mRNA/DNA technologies:

?Pfizer mRNA BNT162b1: 31 Jan. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

?Moderna mRNA-1273: 27 Oct. 2022

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427

?Oxford AstraZeneca AZD1222: 14 Feb. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746

Some people really are clueless and belive every bit of crap spouted on Facebook

We got the same message after commenting on another post about conspiracy theorists

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Where's the scaremongering about my phase 3 trial?

I feel left out

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"Just received the following from a couple that shall remain nameless and are too shy to show their profile on the site but willing to spread misinformation directly to sensible members.

Lots of people have no side effect because they are likely to be given a placebo

The vaccine are still in stage 3 trails.

Heres all the links below to check for yourself.

Here are the clinical trial end dates for the experimental Pfizer, Moderna & Oxford AstraZeneca mRNA/DNA technologies:

?Pfizer mRNA BNT162b1: 31 Jan. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

?Moderna mRNA-1273: 27 Oct. 2022

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427

?Oxford AstraZeneca AZD1222: 14 Feb. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746

Some people really are clueless and belive every bit of crap spouted on Facebook

That's the one! And I thought they only loved me enough to send that!

"
I got it too.

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By *hesblokeMan over a year ago

Derbyshire village

"Where's the scaremongering about my phase 3 trial?

I feel left out

I thought they were just messaging us all that because they cared!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Where's the scaremongering about my phase 3 trial?

I feel left out

I thought they were just messaging us all that because they cared!

I'm not getting anything, but my filters are sky high.

But my phase 3 trial is scary too. I feel left out

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"Where's the scaremongering about my phase 3 trial?

I feel left out

I thought they were just messaging us all that because they cared!

I'm not getting anything, but my filters are sky high.

But my phase 3 trial is scary too. I feel left out

"
awwww trust me your welcome to the messages about covid I am getting

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Where's the scaremongering about my phase 3 trial?

I feel left out

I thought they were just messaging us all that because they cared!

I'm not getting anything, but my filters are sky high.

But my phase 3 trial is scary too. I feel left out

awwww trust me your welcome to the messages about covid I am getting"

Lol. I mean if Pfizer and Oxford are scary, why can't Valneva be scary too?

Big scary mean vaccine

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By *ockdownerMan over a year ago

Preston

OK, what ev's Trevs

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Just received the following from a couple that shall remain nameless and are too shy to show their profile on the site but willing to spread misinformation directly to sensible members.

Lots of people have no side effect because they are likely to be given a placebo

The vaccine are still in stage 3 trails.

Heres all the links below to check for yourself.

Here are the clinical trial end dates for the experimental Pfizer, Moderna & Oxford AstraZeneca mRNA/DNA technologies:

?Pfizer mRNA BNT162b1: 31 Jan. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

?Moderna mRNA-1273: 27 Oct. 2022

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427

?Oxford AstraZeneca AZD1222: 14 Feb. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746

Some people really are clueless and belive every bit of crap spouted on Facebook

They believe it because they want to. I'm a big cynic, especy when it comes to big pharma and govt and big tech. And I'm sure there's some disgusting money grab going on all over the place. But it doesn't take away from the vaccine currently doing its work and a virus that has killed and maimed many people. The fact people won't realise that improvements to basic patient care and hygiene will reduce infections is at once worrying and disappointing.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I trust the science and scientists who can communicate the science and evidence.

All the big pharma, business, government stuff - yeah, I agree they don't have a great reputation and I'm wary.

But the science is clear

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By *ockdownerMan over a year ago

Preston

In addition to these facts, there is also the historical data that shows that in 90% of cases, adverse effects to new medicines and vaccines happen within the first two months.

Cal"

Ohh don't spoil it for them by providing evidence based facts

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By *ockdownerMan over a year ago

Preston

"Just received the following from a couple that shall remain nameless and are too shy to show their profile on the site but willing to spread misinformation directly to sensible members.

Lots of people have no side effect because they are likely to be given a placebo

The vaccine are still in stage 3 trails.

Heres all the links below to check for yourself.

Here are the clinical trial end dates for the experimental Pfizer, Moderna & Oxford AstraZeneca mRNA/DNA technologies:

?Pfizer mRNA BNT162b1: 31 Jan. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

?Moderna mRNA-1273: 27 Oct. 2022

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427

?Oxford AstraZeneca AZD1222: 14 Feb. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746

Some people really are clueless and belive every bit of crap spouted on Facebook

That's the one! And I thought they only loved me enough to send that!

I got it too."

Jesus, he's busy, got the same already

Such a pillar of community spirit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Got to love the green arrow.....and the block button!

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By *hesblokeMan over a year ago

Derbyshire village

"Got to love the green arrow.....and the block button!"

I love your name.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

Now THAT’S done it. You suck puppy. Seriously! Coming in here spouting off about being left handed! Just wrong, so wrong and unnatural! Next you’ll be saying it would be better driving on the other side of the road so you and your leftie mates don’t have to stick shift with their dominant hand

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

*sick puppy (though suck puppy snds quite wrong)

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By *nsert user name hereMan over a year ago

Manchester

I think some people need to stop listening to 'karen' on Facebook and consider what experts in the medical field tell us

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By *hesblokeMan over a year ago

Derbyshire village

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By *dd_soxMan over a year ago

Suffolk

"Someone told me they were implanting chips until I showed them what a microchip needle looked like...."

If there was a chip in the vaccine - there would be no need for track and trace...

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By *hesblokeMan over a year ago

Derbyshire village

"Someone told me they were implanting chips until I showed them what a microchip needle looked like....

If there was a chip in the vaccine - there would be no need for track and trace..."

The needles are like bloody spoons! No-one is coming near me with one of those!

Also, you could have it so your garage door opens when you walk up to it. And the kettle boils when it senses you get out of bed.

Hang on, just off to the patent office...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a shame people replied to this idiot what everyone should have done Is ignored the thread and treated it with the contempt it deserves but hey ho. Its done now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why take a chance on drowning in your own mucus with covid

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have had the jabs and so have my family

i don't personally know of anybody who has died or been ill from the vaccine but i do know people who have died and been ill with covid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Where have you got the information that its not a vaccine ?

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

You make it sound like you have never took any medication, side effects common or uncommon and million to one is still testing because you would still come under one of three

regardless of purpose.

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

Well soon any untrue media (fake news) will be removed by any social media so it'll be the guy at the pub or Sally or Tom from up the street said so

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

The vaccine is there to help us through, not kill people so try getting a grip! There's no more small pox, did your children have the mmr jab? Then give it a sodding rest!! "
But the vast majority of people who have covid need no medical intervention and there’s no proof the vaccine would have saved your father

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Testing and research maybe. But the technology has never made it to licencing or been rolled out to the public before. It's brand spanking new!!

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

"Well soon any untrue media (fake news) will be removed by any social media so it'll be the guy at the pub or Sally or Tom from up the street said so

"
plenty of real news that does not fit the governments narrative is already been removed

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

Testing and research maybe. But the technology has never made it to licencing or been rolled out to the public before. It's brand spanking new!!"
. It’s still classed as an experimental vaccine been used under emergency powers

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

"I think some people need to stop listening to 'karen' on Facebook and consider what experts in the medical field tell us "
not all experts say the same thing

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By *ushtakerMan over a year ago

Preston

Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

Ok just chill then nothing to worry about here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The idiot who said they are putting chips in to monitor you probably uses a smart phone anyway lol

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

"Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

Ok just chill then nothing to worry about here "
have a look how many people in die daily and it other things about India re medical care hygiene infer structure etc causing India problems . Don’t believe everything you see on the bbc

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

"Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

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By *ushtakerMan over a year ago

Preston

"Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

Ok just chill then nothing to worry about here have a look how many people in die daily and it other things about India re medical care hygiene infer structure etc causing India problems . Don’t believe everything you see on the bbc "

So those pictures report’s of people dying due to lack of oxygen turned away from hospital no room no oxygen are made up stories by the bbc ?

Nothing like when it hit the uk

Hospitals overloaded

Not enough ventilators

Not enough icu beds

The fact that the uk has the money and infrastructure and the government to react and get on top of the situation put the uk in the situation it is now

Unlike India

Seriously?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Testing and research maybe. But the technology has never made it to licencing or been rolled out to the public before. It's brand spanking new!!"

Why was it never taken right to the licensed product?

Answer - mainly because the people who cough up the money preferred to focus on things that weren't so completely different from the already-existing technology.

An interesting article about it at the title below, especially the section on Katalin Karikó's career.

Title: The story of mRNA: How a once-dismissed idea became a leading technology in the Covid vaccine race

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Testing and research maybe. But the technology has never made it to licencing or been rolled out to the public before. It's brand spanking new!!. It’s still classed as an experimental vaccine been used under emergency powers "

Can you find the link that states its an experimental vaccine please?

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"Someone told me they were implanting chips until I showed them what a microchip needle looked like...."

and no one has yet shown us a wonderful picture of this miracle tracking chip: why is that?

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

Yes let's test it for years and years, and let another 150,000 people die what a nice person you are

People like that complain about big business and pull out a pack of fags, or roll a joint then say, that's OK it's herbal as the health warnings are a joke.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That fourth picture looks like a scene from Saw, is it supposed to have the frightening affect that it has?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Someone told me they were implanting chips until I showed them what a microchip needle looked like....

and no one has yet shown us a wonderful picture of this miracle tracking chip: why is that?"

Someone shared a circuit diagram of it online. It was, in fact, the wiring diagram for a Boss Metal Zone guitar FX pedal.

I'm not sure what's more sad - the fact my son identified the fact that the diagram was a pedal wiring diagram just by looking at it, or that my mother believed the conspiracy theorists and shared the diagram as if it were in fact related to a chip in a vaccine.

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By *hatter1981Man over a year ago

Bracknell

I had my first jab last Tuesday and I still haven't had my invite to bill gates' satanic sex dungeon! I'm beginning to think I've been sold a mis truth!! Does anyone have the number for the NHS complaints department?

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By *ichard78Man over a year ago

wrexham.

Surely we can close the virus threads now given there are more important things to talk about, like is my dick big enough.

I.have seen the pictures and can confirm that yes it is!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Someone told me they were implanting chips until I showed them what a microchip needle looked like....

and no one has yet shown us a wonderful picture of this miracle tracking chip: why is that?

Someone shared a circuit diagram of it online. It was, in fact, the wiring diagram for a Boss Metal Zone guitar FX pedal.

Oh god

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

"Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

So those pictures report’s of people dying due to lack of oxygen turned away from hospital no room no oxygen are made up stories by the bbc ?

Nothing like when it hit the uk

Hospitals overloaded

Not enough ventilators

Not enough icu beds

The fact that the uk has the money and infrastructure and the government to react and get on top of the situation put the uk in the situation it is now

Unlike India

Seriously?"
. We never had a shortage of ventilators ICUs were never over ran neither was the nhs and last summer hospitals were the quietest they’ve ever been

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"Someone told me they were implanting chips until I showed them what a microchip needle looked like....

and no one has yet shown us a wonderful picture of this miracle tracking chip: why is that?

Someone shared a circuit diagram of it online. It was, in fact, the wiring diagram for a Boss Metal Zone guitar FX pedal.

Oh god

Wa wa wawawawawawawah.

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By *_the_impalerMan over a year ago

canterbury

I went to an anti vaccine protest the other day !

The protesters argued that experts said covid will be around for hundreds of years and when I read the article the professor did say that on the basis of stupid people not having it and the front page of their newsletter was right said Fred offering their expert advice!!!

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By *bsinthe_boyMan over a year ago

Luton

People like that complain about big business and pull out a pack of fags, or roll a joint then say, that's OK it's herbal as the health warnings are a joke."

I bet most of the people complaining that they don't know what's in these vaccines eat McDonald's and smoke fags.

The fact is that the ingredients are published. If you don't understand them, that doesn't make them dangerous. You may also not understand the science. That doesn't make it incorrect.

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"Just received the following from a couple that shall remain nameless and are too shy to show their profile on the site but willing to spread misinformation directly to sensible members.

Lots of people have no side effect because they are likely to be given a placebo

The vaccine are still in stage 3 trails.

Heres all the links below to check for yourself.

Here are the clinical trial end dates for the experimental Pfizer, Moderna & Oxford AstraZeneca mRNA/DNA technologies:

?Pfizer mRNA BNT162b1: 31 Jan. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

?Moderna mRNA-1273: 27 Oct. 2022

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427

?Oxford AstraZeneca AZD1222: 14 Feb. 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746

Some people really are clueless and belive every bit of crap spouted on Facebook

That's the one! And I thought they only loved me enough to send that!

I got it too.

Jesus, he's busy, got the same already

Such a pillar of community spirit

Facebook is (like) a religion, make it simple, easy to swallow, fill it with half truths, churn out the lies non-stop and the rest will follow.

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

Bottom line is if the injection was given on the bottom then obviously could say it wasn't a needle

and have no idea I just hope those who believe their life would be safe without understand before it's too late and regret not doing it sooner, everyone who has gotten the vaccine has done so, because they want to live be it grandparents, uncle, aunt, mother, father,step son step daughter, foster children, and children, knowing losing a family member it can't be reversed but the opportunity to avoid gives more time to make fond memories, unlike those who sadly past away before the vaccine was available...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think I need a bigger tin foil hat

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I think I need a bigger tin foil hat

Bacofoil is BOGOF in the shops right now

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I think I need a bigger tin foil hat

Bacofoil is BOGOF in the shops right now

Huh. You'd think that they'd jack the prices given the demand

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

So those pictures report’s of people dying due to lack of oxygen turned away from hospital no room no oxygen are made up stories by the bbc ?

Nothing like when it hit the uk

Hospitals overloaded

Not enough ventilators

Not enough icu beds

The fact that the uk has the money and infrastructure and the government to react and get on top of the situation put the uk in the situation it is now

Unlike India

Seriously?. We never had a shortage of ventilators ICUs were never over ran neither was the nhs and last summer hospitals were the quietest they’ve ever been "

Do you live on the same planet as us?

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By *hristopherd999Man over a year ago

Brentwood

Yes let's test it for years and years, and let another 150,000 people die what a nice person you are

Yep, hit the nail on the head

Pricks!

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

Yes let's test it for years and years, and let another 150,000 people die what a nice person you are

Yep, hit the nail on the head

Pricks!"
150k have not died of covid

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This forum room just gets worse and worse. Some right idiots here!

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By *orny andy yorkMan over a year ago

york

"Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

So those pictures report’s of people dying due to lack of oxygen turned away from hospital no room no oxygen are made up stories by the bbc ?

Nothing like when it hit the uk

Hospitals overloaded

Not enough ventilators

Not enough icu beds

The fact that the uk has the money and infrastructure and the government to react and get on top of the situation put the uk in the situation it is now

Unlike India

Seriously?. We never had a shortage of ventilators ICUs were never over ran neither was the nhs and last summer hospitals were the quietest they’ve ever been

Do you live on the same planet as us? "
yes I do ICUs were never at capacity when never had a shortage of ventilators and at the beggining the nhs were accused of ventilating people too early or when there was no need to and killing them . Hospitals were no busier at the peake times they they are every year and the first spiked was mostly caused by the nhs sending untested elderly people who needed hospital treatment back to care homes

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By *hristopherd999Man over a year ago

Brentwood

Yes let's test it for years and years, and let another 150,000 people die what a nice person you are

Yep, hit the nail on the head

Pricks! 150k have not died of covid "

What did they die from?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

So those pictures report’s of people dying due to lack of oxygen turned away from hospital no room no oxygen are made up stories by the bbc ?

Nothing like when it hit the uk

Hospitals overloaded

Not enough ventilators

Not enough icu beds

The fact that the uk has the money and infrastructure and the government to react and get on top of the situation put the uk in the situation it is now

Unlike India

Seriously?. We never had a shortage of ventilators ICUs were never over ran neither was the nhs and last summer hospitals were the quietest they’ve ever been

Do you live on the same planet as us? yes I do ICUs were never at capacity when never had a shortage of ventilators and at the beggining the nhs were accused of ventilating people too early or when there was no need to and killing them . Hospitals were no busier at the peake times they they are every year and the first spiked was mostly caused by the nhs sending untested elderly people who needed hospital treatment back to care homes "

So the ICU doctors and nurses have been making it all up? We turned regular wards over to ICU, spread the staff thinner than a slice of sandwich ham and had to stop pretty much all other surgery etc to redeploy the doctors and nurses to the makeshift ICU facilities.

Also treatment in the early stages of the pandemic was obviously reactive - this was an unknown disease, with no previous experience to go on about how best to treat. Research and evidence based practice over 18 months worldwide has, perhaps unsurprisingly, yielded some actual data and now we handle it a little differently because we know more.

Why are people surprised that doctors and nurses struggled to know how best to treat a completely novel disease or that many months later, we have a greater knowledge base?

How many other things have we changed in life, compared to yesteryear, in the face of evidence? That's exactly how Progress is made, FFS.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"I think I need a bigger tin foil hat

Bacofoil is BOGOF in the shops right now

Marks & Sparks do some really good extra thick tin foil, it's almost like sheet aluminium. Far better to keep out the mind reading rays than the ordinary flimsy rubbish.

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

Yes let's test it for years and years, and let another 150,000 people die what a nice person you are

Yep, hit the nail on the head

Pricks! 150k have not died of covid

What did they die from?"

And not forgetting globally the mass graves not just UK

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I think I need a bigger tin foil hat

Bacofoil is BOGOF in the shops right now

Marks & Sparks do some really good extra thick tin foil, it's almost like sheet aluminium. Far better to keep out the mind reading rays than the ordinary flimsy rubbish."

Some of us can't afford M&S foil, Polly. Jeesh

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"I think I need a bigger tin foil hat

Bacofoil is BOGOF in the shops right now

Marks & Sparks do some really good extra thick tin foil, it's almost like sheet aluminium. Far better to keep out the mind reading rays than the ordinary flimsy rubbish.

Some of us can't afford M&S foil, Polly. Jeesh

it works out cheaper for your tin foil hat, you can use single layer instead of the double or even triple that you need with the ordinary

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

It is being rolled out under temporary emergency use authorisation, yes. Some would describe several of them as comprising a novel gene therapy, yes. A few, like the Chinese and Russian ones are more orthodox I understand, and we have orthodox ones in UK trials too.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Just pop over to India and tell them it’s not dangerous nothing to worry about

Fancy some of this experimental jab ?

So those pictures report’s of people dying due to lack of oxygen turned away from hospital no room no oxygen are made up stories by the bbc ?

Nothing like when it hit the uk

Hospitals overloaded

Not enough ventilators

Not enough icu beds

The fact that the uk has the money and infrastructure and the government to react and get on top of the situation put the uk in the situation it is now

Unlike India

Seriously?"

Apparently they run out of oxygen every year, it's a known problem that predates Covid. They'd rather send rockets into space it seems.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone told me they were implanting chips until I showed them what a microchip needle looked like....

and no one has yet shown us a wonderful picture of this miracle tracking chip: why is that?"

I don't believe they are implanting anything, but google nano-technology, our capabilities will blow your mind.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

People like that complain about big business and pull out a pack of fags, or roll a joint then say, that's OK it's herbal as the health warnings are a joke.

I bet most of the people complaining that they don't know what's in these vaccines eat McDonald's and smoke fags.

The fact is that the ingredients are published. If you don't understand them, that doesn't make them dangerous. "

But without long term studies no-one can honestly say they are not, you can only *believe* that.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I think I need a bigger tin foil hat

Bacofoil is BOGOF in the shops right now

Marks & Sparks do some really good extra thick tin foil, it's almost like sheet aluminium. Far better to keep out the mind reading rays than the ordinary flimsy rubbish.

Some of us can't afford M&S foil, Polly. Jeesh

it works out cheaper for your tin foil hat, you can use single layer instead of the double or even triple that you need with the ordinary

I'm not sure they'd even let me in to such a fancy place

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

None of then are a novel gene therapy though. They're vaccines, even though their production methods differ and they all trigger the body to produce its own natural immunity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I took a chance with an “experimental drug”, when the Oxford vaccine trials first where introduced for a number of reasons. My workplace was very exposed to covid-19 and whilst I’d already suffered it once I hoped it would offer me some form of protection from re-infection. I also took it as I didn’t want to possibly transport that virus to my 4 or 18 year old sons, my parents or friends. I also feared the virus, I’d seen it take the lives of about 40 people at that time, it’s a horrific way to die and I wanted to avoid any chance of that outcome. The following months and 180 additional deaths on my shifts confirmed that further.

When I weighed up the risks, knew the levels of scrutiny these trials involve and their ridiculously stringent safety levels I considered it the safest choice for me compared to not joining the trial. Along with all members of the Oxford Trials across the world, I survived it. Those not given the placebo also stand as testament to the foolishness of your after a year you’ll start to die claim, they have been fully vaccinated for over 12 months, without issue.

Let’s add to that though... your twisting of the legal term “an experimental drug” doesn’t apply to to the national vaccination effort ongoing. All 3 models are an approved drug for use with a minimum licensing of two years (a standard feature as all approved vaccines are re-asses after this point). All three have met the criteria required for approval and as echoes by the worldwide figures are as safe as their testing confirms.

I predict you’ve not worked a single day of your life in either virology or the development of vaccines so I wonder why you think you have good cause to tell people how wrong they are... in reality you don’t have a fucking clue on the subject.

You’re just a modern day take on the “end is nigh” billboard man, bit of a shame for you as nobody found him sexy and... if you hadn’t realised this is a swingers site

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

None of then are a novel gene therapy though. They're vaccines, even though their production methods differ and they all trigger the body to produce its own natural immunity. "

It's the means by which they do that that is novel, and the immunity is different from naturally acquired immunity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

On a slightly different subject...

I hope all these avid researchers refusing to get vaccinated go online and consult the car industry’s yearly settlements based on fatal and life changing accidents caused by manufacturing faults....

And then throw away their car keys too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh dear Lord we have another one

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"On a slightly different subject...

And then throw away their car keys too. "

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Funny how "do your research" never means "seek out reliable and reputable sources". It always means "follow the same stuff I do".

I actually know what research means, and, well, no. I'll stick to research.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Funny how "do your research" never means "seek out reliable and reputable sources". It always means "follow the same stuff I do".

I actually know what research means, and, well, no. I'll stick to research."

Do your research.... eg: disregard the advice of all who have dedicated their education and entire working life to specialise in a subject. Go online, watch a video by the real life version of Doctor Nick from the simpsons, award yourself a doctorate and tell the world they are wrong!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A experimental drug that's hasn't been tested for long term problems. So after a year people start dying will they connect the dots to covid. Why would you take a chance on a experimental drug that once taken there's no going back. ! ??"
vaccine science is a well trodden path and as shown in this case, the decades of research have allowed for a dozen game changing vaccines to be fast tracked. I for one am grateful for this as humanity is almost certainly going to experience more and possibly deadlier virus events in the future. Now that all but a few luddites like the OP have accepted mass testing and mass vaccination then this should be a major life saver.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Funny how "do your research" never means "seek out reliable and reputable sources". It always means "follow the same stuff I do".

I actually know what research means, and, well, no. I'll stick to research.

Yes.

I think I loosely "research". I try to find the people who know wtf they're talking about explain it in ways I understand.

I know it's not actually research, more Google plus source vetting plus critical thinking.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"On a slightly different subject...

And then throw away their car keys too. "

Life is a balance of risks, we pay our money and take our choice. You are in a high risk profession, that changes your balance of risk.

I am not refusing the vaccine, so I am sure you're not referring to me anyway, but maybe others also have the luxury of waiting until the data is clearer?

I think what bugs many people is the denial and suppression of the risks - people get very angry when car manufacturers try to deny potentially lethal faults too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Funny how "do your research" never means "seek out reliable and reputable sources". It always means "follow the same stuff I do".

I actually know what research means, and, well, no. I'll stick to research.

Yes.

I think I loosely "research". I try to find the people who know wtf they're talking about explain it in ways I understand.

I know it's not actually research, more Google plus source vetting plus critical thinking. "

Whatever happened to trust in this world?

If I get a blood clot on my brain... I’m pretty happy to just take the advice of a brain surgeon, trust in them to drill into my skull and do the best he or she can.

Who actually thinks for a second that any scientist working on a vaccine is thinking anything apart from to solve a scientific puzzle... if they where driven by financial gain, they’d all be Tory politicians ffs.

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By *izzie and VictorCouple over a year ago

worcestershire

Drops in flu rates? It’s almost as if distancing and better hygiene help reduce the spread of infectious diseases... oh wait...

How is the media “ignoring” this? You’ve picked this up from some sort of media in the first place and I remember seeing a discussion on BBC news about flu rates. Hidden in plain sight?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On a slightly different subject...

And then throw away their car keys too.

Life is a balance of risks, we pay our money and take our choice. You are in a high risk profession, that changes your balance of risk.

I am not refusing the vaccine, so I am sure you're not referring to me anyway, but maybe others also have the luxury of waiting until the data is clearer?

I think what bugs many people is the denial and suppression of the risks - people get very angry when car manufacturers try to deny potentially lethal faults too. "

Who’s denying the risks?

Did you not read your leaflet when queueing to be vaccinated or indeed the clear outlines on the NHS sites. They all spell out the minimal risks and possible complications.

The science is very simple, we can all understand that... we don’t have the luxury of waiting, if we collectedly did that then we allow the virus to run rife. For every person who is vaccinated, the safer we are collectively, simple fact.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Oh we agree, Charli - I just want to know. How I'm wired.

So I ask the scientists/doctors, as it were - rather than whoever else might claim to have an answer.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

If I get a blood clot on my brain... I’m pretty happy to just take the advice of a brain surgeon, trust in them to drill into my skull and do the best he or she can.

If you have a blood clot on the brain you will have little choice! But there are also circumstances in which you have to take responsibility for yourself or those who are too vulnerable to do it for themselves and drive the medical establishment forward because they have no solution to offer.

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