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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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Who else is excited? I am. I have noticed that the meet section was opened 2 days ago. I think it came the same time as the easing of the lockdown on the 17th which is good news. I have already seen the clubs is opening too, what meet precaucions are you going to take if you will be meeting? I would do a social with a distance  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends who I am meeting!
I met an old friend for lunch on Monday and we had a big long hug and a cheeky kiss goodbye.
If the opportunity had been there for more I'd have gone for it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A full psych analysis, make sure there's no tin foil in their car and I'd also make sure my nearest and dearest knew where the life insurance documents were.... Oh and my best mate has the codes to my laptop, so they can delete incriminating evidence, thus ensuring my "squeaky clean" image is intact in the eyes of my parents!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A social with a distance ?! Lol might as well stick to zoom
We are both double jabbed and have antibodies from having the virus earlier this year. We are already attempting to set up socials with a few couples we have been chatting to for a short while. If we clicked with any of them then we would play also. The camps on here seem split between our approach and the total fear of catching COVID approach. Each to their own and I respect the individuals choice as I hope people will ours. Our choice however is to re start life fully and embrace it with both hands. Any local peeps interested in a pub meet - you know where we are !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who else is excited? I am. I have noticed that the meet section was opened 2 days ago. I think it came the same time as the easing of the lockdown on the 17th which is good news. I have already seen the clubs is opening too, what meet precaucions are you going to take if you will be meeting? I would do a social with a distance "
I wouldn’t meet with anyone until I had cross referenced my ‘bellends from the virus thread” list for their name to ensure they aren’t there.
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By *DFUNMan
over a year ago
Edenbridge |
They say that hugging is fine but kissing and face to face contact should be kept at a distance to you cant kiss each other so the other option is 69 so which is safe as its not face to face) |
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Not meeting until I'm fully vaccinated, including building immunity. I'll watch the data otherwise - infections and vaccine coverage. I'm still determining how my vetting criteria will otherwise change. |
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
St Neots/Wisbech |
Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward. |
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By *iliciousCouple
over a year ago
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"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward. "
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant. |
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
St Neots/Wisbech |
"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward.
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant."
Did we not have the same fears with the South Afica variant? Then came the Brazil variant, now the Indian variant. If we continue to fear these variants then we simply resign ourselves to an eternal cycle of lockdowns.
If you've taken reasonable precaution for yoursfthen that's your duty fulfilled, those whose choose to place themselves in potential danger are not our concern. |
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"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward.
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant.
Did we not have the same fears with the South Afica variant? Then came the Brazil variant, now the Indian variant. If we continue to fear these variants then we simply resign ourselves to an eternal cycle of lockdowns.
If you've taken reasonable precaution for yoursfthen that's your duty fulfilled, those whose choose to place themselves in potential danger are not our concern. "
I think fully vaccinated plus immune response is all, individually, we can do.
I'm not taking my decisions, personally, based on my individual position, but at some point we do need to say "we've done all we can do". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward.
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant.
Did we not have the same fears with the South Afica variant? Then came the Brazil variant, now the Indian variant. If we continue to fear these variants then we simply resign ourselves to an eternal cycle of lockdowns.
If you've taken reasonable precaution for yoursfthen that's your duty fulfilled, those whose choose to place themselves in potential danger are not our concern. "
The newspapers must love it when a new variant scare story is dropped in their laps. The vaccine is gonna cover against it, and virtually all of the people that were in the bracket that were dieing from COVID have been double jabbed. |
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
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"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward.
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant.
Did we not have the same fears with the South Afica variant? Then came the Brazil variant, now the Indian variant. If we continue to fear these variants then we simply resign ourselves to an eternal cycle of lockdowns.
If you've taken reasonable precaution for yoursfthen that's your duty fulfilled, those whose choose to place themselves in potential danger are not our concern.
The newspapers must love it when a new variant scare story is dropped in their laps. The vaccine is gonna cover against it, and virtually all of the people that were in the bracket that were dieing from COVID have been double jabbed. "
Exactly this. We're being told that this variant is more transmissible and need to be cautious, but cautious of what though? They're all playing on transmission fears which might have reasonable pre vaccine, but the vast majority of the vulnerable are now double jabbed so who are we worried about passing it onto ?
SAGE gave us the data regarding risk groups, and as I see it they are covered as much as can be expected. We can't realistically do any more on the balance of things. |
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"I refuse to live in fear. I will not be social distancing with those I meet."
This is a ludicrous thing to say! it's the last stage of the process which is the easiest to screw up.. Refusing to live in fear may just make a hell of a lot of people end up more fearful than they were before.. Which you may wish to consider?. Because this really is not just about you .. This is not over yet!
Care and caution is advised.. not throwing caution to the wind without a care.. There's a difference |
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"I refuse to live in fear. I will not be social distancing with those I meet.
This is a ludicrous thing to say! it's the last stage of the process which is the easiest to screw up.. Refusing to live in fear may just make a hell of a lot of people end up more fearful than they were before.. Which you may wish to consider?. Because this really is not just about you .. This is not over yet!
Care and caution is advised.. not throwing caution to the wind without a care.. There's a difference"
I’m unclear, does this mean u ARE meeting for sex with strangers or you ARENT ? |
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"I refuse to live in fear. I will not be social distancing with those I meet.
This is a ludicrous thing to say! it's the last stage of the process which is the easiest to screw up.. Refusing to live in fear may just make a hell of a lot of people end up more fearful than they were before.. Which you may wish to consider?. Because this really is not just about you .. This is not over yet!
Care and caution is advised.. not throwing caution to the wind without a care.. There's a difference
I’m unclear, does this mean u ARE meeting for sex with strangers or you ARENT ? "
think it's pretty obvious there is more than an inference /implication the answer is quite a big fat 'No' to that one |
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Currently still looking to form connections via chat first, may well be up for a social meet and am happy to provide a lateral flow test on the day to prove not infected as they are now available free of charge from pharmacies will still social distance if requested and will wear a mask as required, I don't see the problem with doing a simple test to prove that you are not carrying a potentially deadly virus, we expect our play partners to be sit free why shouldn't we expect the same with covid? |
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
St Neots/Wisbech |
"Currently still looking to form connections via chat first, may well be up for a social meet and am happy to provide a lateral flow test on the day to prove not infected as they are now available free of charge from pharmacies will still social distance if requested and will wear a mask as required, I don't see the problem with doing a simple test to prove that you are not carrying a potentially deadly virus, we expect our play partners to be sit free why shouldn't we expect the same with covid?"
Would you insist that the other person provide proof beforehand ? |
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"Who else is excited? I am. I have noticed that the meet section was opened 2 days ago. I think it came the same time as the easing of the lockdown on the 17th which is good news. I have already seen the clubs is opening too, what meet precaucions are you going to take if you will be meeting? I would do a social with a distance "
The last time I looked out the window, there was still a worldwide pandemic going on.
The virus has not been eliminated.
Clubs are places where people will be in proximity to each other. Potentially very close proximity. People from not just this country but quite possible overseas.
Or they have friends who had been overseas.
I'm not going to risk my jollies because some twunt at a club is an anti-vaxxer and couldn't give a toss about killing other people or passing the virus on to others.
I have to take responsibility for my own actions, because not all other people can be trusted to take responsibility for theirs. Some can, but with a pandemic you have to work on worst case scenarios.
I will close the curtains, and be happy, safe and content, instead of dead.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Who else is excited? I am. I have noticed that the meet section was opened 2 days ago. I think it came the same time as the easing of the lockdown on the 17th which is good news. I have already seen the clubs is opening too, what meet precaucions are you going to take if you will be meeting? I would do a social with a distance
The last time I looked out the window, there was still a worldwide pandemic going on.
The virus has not been eliminated.
Clubs are places where people will be in proximity to each other. Potentially very close proximity. People from not just this country but quite possible overseas.
Or they have friends who had been overseas.
I'm not going to risk my jollies because some twunt at a club is an anti-vaxxer and couldn't give a toss about killing other people or passing the virus on to others.
I have to take responsibility for my own actions, because not all other people can be trusted to take responsibility for theirs. Some can, but with a pandemic you have to work on worst case scenarios.
I will close the curtains, and be happy, safe and content, instead of dead.
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‘Instead of dead’ ... Dramatic much ....  |
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‘Instead of dead’ ... Dramatic much .... "
One person's drama is another's pragmatism.
It seemed superfluous to say "or suffering from life-time long covid symptoms, placing additional care needs on my family, yada yada yada." Hence cutting to the chase.
Though both scenarios are dramatic, are they not ? No need to sugar-coat it any other way, IMHO. It's the reality for 112K sadly lost UK citizens.
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
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‘Instead of dead’ ... Dramatic much ....
One person's drama is another's pragmatism.
It seemed superfluous to say "or suffering from life-time long covid symptoms, placing additional care needs on my family, yada yada yada." Hence cutting to the chase.
Though both scenarios are dramatic, are they not ? No need to sugar-coat it any other way, IMHO. It's the reality for 112K sadly lost UK citizens.
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In this current era, what do you surmise as a realistic chance of severe illness ?
Do we live our lives in the past and ignore all the advancements made because of a small minority of cases rising? |
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‘Instead of dead’ ... Dramatic much ....
One person's drama is another's pragmatism.
It seemed superfluous to say "or suffering from life-time long covid symptoms, placing additional care needs on my family, yada yada yada." Hence cutting to the chase.
Though both scenarios are dramatic, are they not ? No need to sugar-coat it any other way, IMHO. It's the reality for 112K sadly lost UK citizens.
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To me, even if it is dramatic - you're entitled to make your own choices to meet or not, for whatever reason you like.
I'm certainly not meeting any time soon. I don't think this is over. |
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"In this current era, what do you surmise as a realistic chance of severe illness ?
Do we live our lives in the past and ignore all the advancements made because of a small minority of cases rising? "
I'm not a statistician. Nor do I have access to clinical data breaking down my specific exact risk. I do however have not just one but several risk factors which would lead to a worse outcome if I was infected. I also have friends and family at high risk and therefore my actions impact on them too. It's possibly to be asymptomatic too.
Granny may be vaccinated (against current strains...other variants ? Unknown efficacy), but her grand-daughter aged 5 hasn't been.
I've got to think of both of them in the grand scheme of things. Both vulnerable.
Besides, Covid may not kill granny off, but she could still get secondary complications and perish that way.
With regards to living in the past, we have to look to the future, and this is still an ongoing situation. We are still having a global pandemic. It could rapidly get out of control anywhere due to unknown mutations and unforeseen circumstances. A small minority of cases today becomes a new variant epidemic tomorrow in a very short space of time.
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By *iliciousCouple
over a year ago
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"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward.
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant.
Did we not have the same fears with the South Afica variant? Then came the Brazil variant, now the Indian variant. If we continue to fear these variants then we simply resign ourselves to an eternal cycle of lockdowns.
If you've taken reasonable precaution for yoursfthen that's your duty fulfilled, those whose choose to place themselves in potential danger are not our concern. "
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There have been other variants, and there are likely to be more. The Indian mutation appears to be spread much quicker than the previous ones - this has been widely publicised. More mutations will surface especially if people mix too soon before the vaccination program is completed. That is what will produce more lockdowns, not by simply ignoring them as you seem to be saying.
A reliable source of non partisan information is Devi Sridhar, Edinburgh University. She writes in the Guardian quite a bit, the latest a couple of days ago on this subject. Worth a read.
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By *iliciousCouple
over a year ago
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"In this current era, what do you surmise as a realistic chance of severe illness ?
Do we live our lives in the past and ignore all the advancements made because of a small minority of cases rising?
I'm not a statistician. Nor do I have access to clinical data breaking down my specific exact risk. I do however have not just one but several risk factors which would lead to a worse outcome if I was infected. I also have friends and family at high risk and therefore my actions impact on them too. It's possibly to be asymptomatic too.
Granny may be vaccinated (against current strains...other variants ? Unknown efficacy), but her grand-daughter aged 5 hasn't been.
I've got to think of both of them in the grand scheme of things. Both vulnerable.
Besides, Covid may not kill granny off, but she could still get secondary complications and perish that way.
With regards to living in the past, we have to look to the future, and this is still an ongoing situation. We are still having a global pandemic. It could rapidly get out of control anywhere due to unknown mutations and unforeseen circumstances. A small minority of cases today becomes a new variant epidemic tomorrow in a very short space of time.
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By *oneybeesCouple
over a year ago
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"A social with a distance ?! Lol might as well stick to zoom
We are both double jabbed and have antibodies from having the virus earlier this year. We are already attempting to set up socials with a few couples we have been chatting to for a short while. If we clicked with any of them then we would play also. The camps on here seem split between our approach and the total fear of catching COVID approach. Each to their own and I respect the individuals choice as I hope people will ours. Our choice however is to re start life fully and embrace it with both hands. Any local peeps interested in a pub meet - you know where we are !!"
totally with you 100%, the sheer panic the Media has driven into folk is embarrassing at best. You're more likely to be run over by a bus than catch the so called virus, which by the way has 96% rate of full recovery after a few days. Good luck and have lots of fun, #uck you Covid |
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By *iliciousCouple
over a year ago
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"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward.
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant.
Did we not have the same fears with the South Afica variant? Then came the Brazil variant, now the Indian variant. If we continue to fear these variants then we simply resign ourselves to an eternal cycle of lockdowns.
If you've taken reasonable precaution for yoursfthen that's your duty fulfilled, those whose choose to place themselves in potential danger are not our concern.
The newspapers must love it when a new variant scare story is dropped in their laps. The vaccine is gonna cover against it, and virtually all of the people that were in the bracket that were dieing from COVID have been double jabbed. "
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There is no hard evidence yet that the vaccine is going to cover the new mutations or those that haven’t surfaced yet. And they will stand more chance of surfacing if there is too much mixing before most people have both jabs.
It seems to be the same theory behind not finishing your antibiotic course completely. It invites the infection to mutate as it isn’t entirely killed off.
So it really isn’t about newspapers. |
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By *oneybeesCouple
over a year ago
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"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward.
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant."
don't take too much notice of the variants, they're hardly even on the scale of worrying about it, scaremongering news to keep you under control. Common sense and make you're own choices is the only way. They've scared you and it's worked |
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
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"A social with a distance ?! Lol might as well stick to zoom
We are both double jabbed and have antibodies from having the virus earlier this year. We are already attempting to set up socials with a few couples we have been chatting to for a short while. If we clicked with any of them then we would play also. The camps on here seem split between our approach and the total fear of catching COVID approach. Each to their own and I respect the individuals choice as I hope people will ours. Our choice however is to re start life fully and embrace it with both hands. Any local peeps interested in a pub meet - you know where we are !! totally with you 100%, the sheer panic the Media has driven into folk is embarrassing at best. You're more likely to be run over by a bus than catch the so called virus, which by the way has 96% rate of full recovery after a few days. Good luck and have lots of fun, #uck you Covid"
100% this.
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By *iliciousCouple
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"Both had our jabs, our precautions are taken care of. The onus now falls on the other party to protect themselves.
Those that want to meet will meet regardless of a jab, personal responsibility is the only way to move forward.
Is the onus on the other party though? If the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission (AFAIK the jury Is out), and the other party has COVID but is non-symptomatic, it makes more sense to us to hold off until a) most people are vaccinated and b) there is more data about the Indian variant. don't take too much notice of the variants, they're hardly even on the scale of worrying about it, scaremongering news to keep you under control. Common sense and make you're own choices is the only way. They've scared you and it's worked"
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"In this current era, what do you surmise as a realistic chance of severe illness ?
Do we live our lives in the past and ignore all the advancements made because of a small minority of cases rising?
I'm not a statistician. Nor do I have access to clinical data breaking down my specific exact risk. I do however have not just one but several risk factors which would lead to a worse outcome if I was infected. I also have friends and family at high risk and therefore my actions impact on them too. It's possibly to be asymptomatic too.
Granny may be vaccinated (against current strains...other variants ? Unknown efficacy), but her grand-daughter aged 5 hasn't been.
I've got to think of both of them in the grand scheme of things. Both vulnerable.
Besides, Covid may not kill granny off, but she could still get secondary complications and perish that way.
With regards to living in the past, we have to look to the future, and this is still an ongoing situation. We are still having a global pandemic. It could rapidly get out of control anywhere due to unknown mutations and unforeseen circumstances. A small minority of cases today becomes a new variant epidemic tomorrow in a very short space of time.
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Would you insist that the other person provide proof beforehand ? "
For the sake of a free 30 minute self test i dont think it would be such a bad plan and that way you both know neither party is putting the other at risk |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There isn’t any you can take, if your meeting for fun, then you are going to be close and be heavy breathing all over.
Best precaution is to take a lat flow test beforehand, they are free at any pharmacy just pick one up. |
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"A full psych analysis, make sure there's no tin foil in their car and I'd also make sure my nearest and dearest knew where the life insurance documents were.... Oh and my best mate has the codes to my laptop, so they can delete incriminating evidence, thus ensuring my "squeaky clean" image is intact in the eyes of my parents!! "
Ah, yes the tin foil...a Dr friend told me he actually met someone who'd lined their hat with tin foil...really. Got to love these people! |
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