Is anyone watching this on c4 at the moment.?
It's very scary to see the complete crock of shit that is how we have managed this situation. Gosh it's so so so poor. Have a watch if you feel like making your blood pressure rise before bed time. |
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"Is anyone watching this on c4 at the moment.?
It's very scary to see the complete crock of shit that is how we have managed this situation. Gosh it's so so so poor. Have a watch if you feel like making your blood pressure rise before bed time. "
As I suspected right at the beginning and since  total cock up...but not as we all on Fab like!!  |
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"What's the summary?"
Amongst many other points..
That the passenger location form, the self isolation, the pcr tests et al are never checked and have loop holes the size of a large loophole in them.
That the Sept and Dec waves could have been largely avoided.
I'm very loyal to our leaders mostly but it's just mind blowing the incompetence. I mean seriously a 12 year old school child would have failed if they had suggested such a process. So sad. |
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"What's the summary?
Amongst many other points..
That the passenger location form, the self isolation, the pcr tests et al are never checked and have loop holes the size of a large loophole in them.
That the Sept and Dec waves could have been largely avoided.
I'm very loyal to our leaders mostly but it's just mind blowing the incompetence. I mean seriously a 12 year old school child would have failed if they had suggested such a process. So sad. "
For international travel? In January the airline checked to ensure we had negative PCR results before they would let us fly. The passenger locator forms were checked on arrival and everyone without one was taken aside.
Quarantine/ self isolation... I haven't been checked after any flights back to England in the last year. 
But then I haven't been stopped when travelling across the border of any towns either. |
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The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job |
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As the forum has shown, until the NHS delivered the successful vaccine rollout, we have truly been abysmal at managing this throughout. Most decisions were very poor, actions were typically much too late and we lost the lives of tens of thousands of people that were avoidable losses. The impact on the economy was obviously much worse than it should have been, as well as on people's wellbeing overall. |
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"The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job "
Exactly
Liars and corrupt cheats |
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"The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job
Exactly
Liars and corrupt cheats"
whiles i dont like the torys i dont think anyone else would have done any better ...
labour ??? hello where are they .. wheres the voice ?.. the leadership ?.. the ideas .. where ?? no they just shrunk back no opposition at all
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It's completely irrelevant to say 'would Labour or anyone else ,have done a better job,in the running of the country?That's akin to saying 'if I'd have picked those lottery numbers last night'
Simple facts are that there has been mistake after mistake, to make it worse, those mistakes continue. From not shutting our borders early enough, even though we could see what was happening in Northern Italy. Sending NHS emergency PPE to China,then leaving our doctors and nurses to use bin liners for protection. UK residents couldn't leave the country, but 20,000 000+ people came in to the UK,untested no quarantine. Even yesterday Matt Hancock said 'people should certainly not go to Spain,Italy, France and Greece 'even though last week these countries were on the Amber list for travel.
Shall I carry on?
I have a list alot longer than my arm |
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Hancock says we shouldn’t go here and we shouldn’t go there yet they’re now allowing the Indian and Pakistan cricket team to fly here this week to start their tour..unbelievable |
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"The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job
Exactly
Liars and corrupt cheats
whiles i dont like the torys i dont think anyone else would have done any better ...
labour ??? hello where are they .. wheres the voice ?.. the leadership ?.. the ideas .. where ?? no they just shrunk back no opposition at all
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I really think the "noone else could have done any better" is an extremely poor and somewhat dangerous excuse for government incompetence. They are the ones in charge and have a responsibility in which they seem largely to have failed which has resulted in 1000s of deaths. The "noone else could hace done better" excuse really is a very poor one in these circumstances |
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"The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job "
If the scientific community were in charge we would have been in an continuinous lockdown since march 2019, imagine the protests and civil unrest that would happened. The whole thing is a cluster fuck and we can each take a portion of the blame |
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"The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job
If the scientific community were in charge we would have been in an continuinous lockdown since march 2019, imagine the protests and civil unrest that would happened. The whole thing is a cluster fuck and we can each take a portion of the blame "
What portion is mine please?
And what is yours? |
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By *aralewisCouple
over a year ago
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Well we all knew the consertive party was made up of boris mate that knew nothing about the role
Even Teresa may said
And il tell you why the media didnt say to public because its not an independent broadcaster.On
Poris handling of this crisis over 100.000 people died but all you hear him say is the vaccine rollouts going good
Its a joke how the public finds it acceptable |
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By *aralewisCouple
over a year ago
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"The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job
If the scientific community were in charge we would have been in an continuinous lockdown since march 2019, imagine the protests and civil unrest that would happened. The whole thing is a cluster fuck and we can each take a portion of the blame
What portion is mine please?
And what is yours?"
The way things work is the machine politicians and media get people to blame each other and defers from who really to blame
But coz people believe everything they being told it works |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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How anyone can excuse the incompetence of the current UK Govt is beyond me. Whataboutism is not an excuse and is impossible to prove either way.
Of course there have been plenty of muppets who either couldn’t understand or ignored rules/guidance but does that abdicate the responsibility of our elected officials to, you know, “govern”.
This current crop or morally bankrupt opportunists are the worst possible government at the worst possible time.
If you voted for these people based on wanting to “get brexit done” then some of this is on you! You voted for them based on a single issue without considering everything else they stood for.
This is not an anti Tory rant because I truly do not think even Margaret Thatcher would recognise this lot as Tories.
If you excuse these people then you also excuse the greatest theft of state assets in history - YOUR (tax) MONEY has been gifted to cronies and Tory party donors. These Ministers, their families and friends are enriching themselves at your expense.
On top of that their prevarication and ineptitude has cost 000s of lives.
Don’t tell me nobody else could have done better!
I don’t for one minute think they are unintelligent, they clearly have an agenda that is succeeding (to line their pockets). |
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"The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job
Exactly
Liars and corrupt cheats
whiles i dont like the torys i dont think anyone else would have done any better ...
labour ??? hello where are they .. wheres the voice ?.. the leadership ?.. the ideas .. where ?? no they just shrunk back no opposition at all
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Death rate in Scotland significantly lower than England
Current hospitalisation rate lower in Scotland than england
Current ICU rates lower in Scotland than in England
With the exception of patients returning to Care homes, Scotland has acted quicker, taken a more careful approach out of lockdowns and has had a sensible and clear tier system based on council areas.
In Scotland there are currently 3 tiers in operation with Glasgow and Moray still in tier 3 due to the higher cases. England is all leaving lockdown together.
The Tories have been useless. THEY should have done better. Don't use the "could anyone else have done any better" argument.
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So this is the Government that all the Covidiots / conspiracy theorists / its a con job merchants are saying is working in co-operation with other worldwide governments to suppress the people and take away our freedoms. A government who will stop at nothing to suppress dissent, like stop a programme like Dispatches.
A Government who are making fuck up after fuck up are yet capable of masterminding a complete and total removal of everyone’s freedoms for ever.  |
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"So this is the Government that all the Covidiots / conspiracy theorists / its a con job merchants are saying is working in co-operation with other worldwide governments to suppress the people and take away our freedoms. A government who will stop at nothing to suppress dissent, like stop a programme like Dispatches.
A Government who are making fuck up after fuck up are yet capable of masterminding a complete and total removal of everyone’s freedoms for ever. "
Indeed.
What they are is a bunch of opportunists who have weaponised and monetised the pandemic to pass emergency powers to enable legislation that will deliver their policies. They thought brexit was a gift to further their own aims but that was nothing compared to the opportunity afforded by Covid.
I bet they cannot believe their luck! |
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"So this is the Government that all the Covidiots / conspiracy theorists / its a con job merchants are saying is working in co-operation with other worldwide governments to suppress the people and take away our freedoms. A government who will stop at nothing to suppress dissent, like stop a programme like Dispatches.
A Government who are making fuck up after fuck up are yet capable of masterminding a complete and total removal of everyone’s freedoms for ever. "
when someone acts like a fool you laugh at them thinking they are armless, remember the fool is the one who underestimates the fool. |
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"What's the summary?
Amongst many other points..
That the passenger location form, the self isolation, the pcr tests et al are never checked and have loop holes the size of a large loophole in them.
That the Sept and Dec waves could have been largely avoided.
I'm very loyal to our leaders mostly but it's just mind blowing the incompetence. I mean seriously a 12 year old school child would have failed if they had suggested such a process. So sad. "
I'll have to catch that
You have always been quite supportive of them aswell?
Stuff came out several weeks ago which revealed that Johnson initially dismissed it,hence the missed meetings,but it went under the radar.
Said it before but the stuff over the schools was borderline criminal.
Yet a big chunk of the papolulaton believe it's been handled well.
No wonder they are not keen on this investigation. |
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"The gove are lying usless cheets.it would have been better to give emergency powers to the top virus scientist and let the gove act as idvisors for the length of the pandemic.i believe industry calls it best man for the job
Exactly
Liars and corrupt cheats
whiles i dont like the torys i dont think anyone else would have done any better ...
labour ??? hello where are they .. wheres the voice ?.. the leadership ?.. the ideas .. where ?? no they just shrunk back no opposition at all
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When you are saying..
Mo one one would have done better
What are you basing it on? |
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I suppose I was after a debate on the content of the show more than the usual tribal attacks we get on political side taking.
For example I thought it would be reasonable for people who were being told to self isolate post travel, that they were checked up on at least once a day. That perhaps they were able to identify through a security process that they were speaking to the person that had travelled (like when you call a bank or telecom company or utility provider) and needed to isolate and that they could use a bit of technology (say GPS) to check they were where they said they were. But according to the program none of those things happen and whomever answers the phone and wherever they are... Their word is taken as accurate.
So "are you isolating at home?"
Answer "yes"
Its almost as if the process designers have never met a human before.
Or that the pcr tests that are purchased at huge cost have actually been taken and completed and results recorded against the passport number that travelled.
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"I suppose I was after a debate on the content of the show more than the usual tribal attacks we get on political side taking.
For example I thought it would be reasonable for people who were being told to self isolate post travel, that they were checked up on at least once a day. That perhaps they were able to identify through a security process that they were speaking to the person that had travelled (like when you call a bank or telecom company or utility provider) and needed to isolate and that they could use a bit of technology (say GPS) to check they were where they said they were. But according to the program none of those things happen and whomever answers the phone and wherever they are... Their word is taken as accurate.
So "are you isolating at home?"
Answer "yes"
Its almost as if the process designers have never met a human before.
Or that the pcr tests that are purchased at huge cost have actually been taken and completed and results recorded against the passport number that travelled.
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Further,
I suppose my observation would be that having had a year almost, with endless budget, and the best minds in the coubtry focused on the safe and secure travel problem, I would have expected us to come up with a system and process that was a bit more difficult to break. |
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