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9 fully vaccinated staff members of the NY Yankees were found positives: three coaches, five staffers and shortstop Gleyber Torres.
The most intresting thing is that Gleyber Torres, a 25 year old player tested positive for the coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated and previously having COVID-19.
This shows that everyone, vaccinated or not, young or old, who had COVID-19 in the past or not must exercise care. Not just for yourself but for the others too.
Keep safe everyone.
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
The South |
"9 fully vaccinated staff members of the NY Yankees were found positives: three coaches, five staffers and shortstop Gleyber Torres.
The most intresting thing is that Gleyber Torres, a 25 year old player tested positive for the coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated and previously having COVID-19.
This shows that everyone, vaccinated or not, young or old, who had COVID-19 in the past or not must exercise care. Not just for yourself but for the others too.
Keep safe everyone.
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People think being vaccinated is a magic bullet the minute they've been injected.
If you have Covid when you get vaccinated, you'll still have Covid, with lessers I'll effects.
My understanding is you're not fully protected until 14 days past your injection.
Notwithstanding no vaccine will give 100% protection. You can still catch Covid even if you're fully vaccinated, however your symptoms will be much less severe.
Keep safe indeed.
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"9 fully vaccinated staff members of the NY Yankees were found positives: three coaches, five staffers and shortstop Gleyber Torres.
The most intresting thing is that Gleyber Torres, a 25 year old player tested positive for the coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated and previously having COVID-19.
This shows that everyone, vaccinated or not, young or old, who had COVID-19 in the past or not must exercise care. Not just for yourself but for the others too.
Keep safe everyone.
People think being vaccinated is a magic bullet the minute they've been injected.
If you have Covid when you get vaccinated, you'll still have Covid, with lessers I'll effects.
My understanding is you're not fully protected until 14 days past your injection.
Notwithstanding no vaccine will give 100% protection. You can still catch Covid even if you're fully vaccinated, however your symptoms will be much less severe.
Keep safe indeed.
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My understanding is that after the immune response is mounted (14-21 days after second jab, 28 after J&J), those who catch Covid, or more than asymptomatic Covid, are exceedingly rare. The CDC is looking into it for the US. |
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Elderly friend, recovered from Covid in March. Inpatient since April for unrelated illness.
Fully vaccinated.
Tested positive last week then negative 24 hours later. Remains negative.
Asymptomatic.
Not all testing is reliable or significant.
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"9 fully vaccinated staff members of the NY Yankees were found positives: three coaches, five staffers and shortstop Gleyber Torres.
The most intresting thing is that Gleyber Torres, a 25 year old player tested positive for the coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated and previously having COVID-19.
This shows that everyone, vaccinated or not, young or old, who had COVID-19 in the past or not must exercise care. Not just for yourself but for the others too.
Keep safe everyone.
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As sad as this is.. Even more concerning is still seeing on social media today that people seem surprised that people believe the vaccine stops you getting the virus? And using things like this to try to stop people from having it..
As you say everyone needs to stay safe and be super cautious.. We have not been Unlocked yet.. Though way too many on here seem to think so already unfortunately |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"9 fully vaccinated staff members of the NY Yankees were found positives: three coaches, five staffers and shortstop Gleyber Torres.
The most intresting thing is that Gleyber Torres, a 25 year old player tested positive for the coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated and previously having COVID-19.
This shows that everyone, vaccinated or not, young or old, who had COVID-19 in the past or not must exercise care. Not just for yourself but for the others too.
Keep safe everyone.
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Like others have said it doesn’t always stop you from getting it.. but it can stop you from getting it and having it in a serious way…
Of the 9 yankees that have it.. 8 of them are asymptomatic ….. |
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I put it mostly because I have read in the forum of people who rely on their strong immune system and their youth or people who rely on their antibodies from catching covid.
But in this case, a young 25 year old athlete not only caught it but after he got vaccinated, he caught it again.
And even if the chances of getting really sick are minimal after being fully vaccinated, there is still a chance (smaller though) that even the asymptomatic can pass it. |
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"I put it mostly because I have read in the forum of people who rely on their strong immune system and their youth or people who rely on their antibodies from catching covid.
But in this case, a young 25 year old athlete not only caught it but after he got vaccinated, he caught it again.
And even if the chances of getting really sick are minimal after being fully vaccinated, there is still a chance (smaller though) that even the asymptomatic can pass it."
I am sure the instances of asymptotic transmission must be very very low. Look at the high numbers of people who have avoided been infected despite living in the same household as someone who had very symptomatic Covid covering every surface with coughing! |
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The safety and efficacy research testing does not produce a personalised output of evidence for each person, that any one of us could then somehow relate to ourselves. It produces evidence that is statistically meaningful for large populations and sub-populations, such as relating to age and ethnicity. The reason the trials are done on many tens of thousands of diverse people is to ensure that the results are meaningful and have sufficient statistical power.
Some people have weaker immune systems or just fail to create a sufficiently robust immune response following vaccination. Our immune systems generally decrease in their effectiveness as we age and testing efficacy on older people helps us to understand how well protected this more vulnerable group of people would be, following vaccination.
If millions of people get vaccinated, there will be a high number of them who have failed to achieve suitable immunity levels to prevent infection but they will likely still be a very tiny percentage of the population. If they make contact with the virus too quickly, their immunity will not be fully developed and it will be natural for them to have a higher likelihood of an infection. Building immunity takes time.
People under very high stress loads also may struggle to achieve the higher levels of immunity that they may have, should they not have been as stressed. It's ideal for us all to minimise stress following vaccination, so that we potentially achieve our strongest levels of immunity.
If you look for vaccinated people who have become infected, you will find them. You won't always be able to guess who they are, though this natural issue of not getting 100% efficacy, should influence all of us to continue to manage to reduce the potential for infections as much as we can do.
Any 1 new infection is a potential new mutation of the virus. If we keep new infections to a minimum, we reduce the prospect of having new mutations and subsequent variants that may be more transmissable, able to overcome immunity or deadly. |
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I believe that they were vaccinated with the Janssen single dose vaccine...
Currently a double dose trial is being conducted on the Janssen vaccine to look at improving its efficacy.
Another point of consideration is that you can test positive simply by having the virus present in very small quantities, for all intents, not having the virus taking hold, nor being to a level where you can easily transmit it to others. Your immune system will clear the virus quite rapidly before it can do you any harm. |
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
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"The safety and efficacy research testing does not produce a personalised output of evidence for each person, that any one of us could then somehow relate to ourselves. It produces evidence that is statistically meaningful for large populations and sub-populations, such as relating to age and ethnicity. The reason the trials are done on many tens of thousands of diverse people is to ensure that the results are meaningful and have sufficient statistical power.
Some people have weaker immune systems or just fail to create a sufficiently robust immune response following vaccination. Our immune systems generally decrease in their effectiveness as we age and testing efficacy on older people helps us to understand how well protected this more vulnerable group of people would be, following vaccination.
If millions of people get vaccinated, there will be a high number of them who have failed to achieve suitable immunity levels to prevent infection but they will likely still be a very tiny percentage of the population. If they make contact with the virus too quickly, their immunity will not be fully developed and it will be natural for them to have a higher likelihood of an infection. Building immunity takes time.
People under very high stress loads also may struggle to achieve the higher levels of immunity that they may have, should they not have been as stressed. It's ideal for us all to minimise stress following vaccination, so that we potentially achieve our strongest levels of immunity.
If you look for vaccinated people who have become infected, you will find them. You won't always be able to guess who they are, though this natural issue of not getting 100% efficacy, should influence all of us to continue to manage to reduce the potential for infections as much as we can do.
Any 1 new infection is a potential new mutation of the virus. If we keep new infections to a minimum, we reduce the prospect of having new mutations and subsequent variants that may be more transmissable, able to overcome immunity or deadly. "
This. Exactly this. ^
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