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Yes once again we could be looking in the months a head into a another to fucking full lock down cos of this fucking strain from india
about that time all over sea trave was banned till the world has got back some controll over this fucking Virus Now hoilday over here for while put your fucking money in our counrey for a change I want my life back and ever one else
Now you cant fucking go over seas end off hoilday here fucking wankers
I dont want anymore more Veriants coming in our uk. I want to get the Uk back on track and it wont happen till you lrean this virus is real its killing poeple now there strains of it popping up all over the place now get it
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Ummm we can generate the same mutations in our own pool of covid-19 tbf, we don't need to import it, that's how this virus survives it mutates and I doubt this will be the last time it mutates into a variant of concern either |
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By *ncubus XMan
over a year ago
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"Ummm we can generate the same mutations in our own pool of covid-19 tbf, we don't need to import it, that's how this virus survives it mutates and I doubt this will be the last time it mutates into a variant of concern either"
But they only normally mutate if the virus is prevalent and it burning through enough hosts to mutate like the Kent one! If you keep a lid on it it should stop we need to shut the fucking boarders like we should have last January but we still haven’t learnt our lesson! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ummm we can generate the same mutations in our own pool of covid-19 tbf, we don't need to import it, that's how this virus survives it mutates and I doubt this will be the last time it mutates into a variant of concern either"
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We need to learn to put immediate travel bans in place or for those returning to the UK who are in a prevalant country that has been identiffied as a high risk area to return into quarantine. Not self quarantine but proper quarantine until they test negative. The people who rush back to avoid quarantine rules are likely to be responsible whether knowingly or unknowingly for bringing variants back, so if that factor is removed we all might be safer and stop future lockdowns occurring. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Totally agree
I'm so frustrated by this news that the 21st June may be delayed. "
Agree too...it’s tough but fair...shameful that we left the back door unlocked |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population..."
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better. |
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"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population..."
LOL
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By *nSeeNMan
over a year ago
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"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population..."
2 weeks quarantine in a hotel for everyone entering/re-entering should have been sufficient. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic. |
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic."
Absolutely let get our freedom back no more excuses |
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic. Absolutely let get our freedom back no more excuses "
Unfortunately you have to look forward not just at the present. If the variant that's causing concern right now proves highly transmissible, hospitalisations could peak again and the NHS will not be able to cope.
Fully vaccinated people will be at reduced risk (although vaccine protection doesn't work for everyone) but what about those waiting for their second jabs and the millions still yet to be offered their first?
We also need to remember that some recover from the infection but suffer long-term physical and mental health consequences. So it's not even just about death, but long term quality of life for many.
But of course it's not even just that. There are Covid deaths, but also many tragic consequences occur because access to treatment for other ailments is unavailable when the hospitals are full or still recovering from long lasting backlogs from when they were overwhelmed.
We just don't know right now the extent of the danger posed by this variant, but until we do the scientists have to conduct models and the politicians are duty bound to prepare us for all possibilities, including the most unpalatable ones.
I am depressed at the possibility of June 21 not happening, but I don't see any freedom in choosing not to take on board advice we'd prefer not to hear. |
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To be honest, Boris hugely played down the expectation of further lockdowns or delays to the existing roadmap. He did agree that it "could" cause an issue and was being monitored, but that things seem to be within agreed boundaries to continue the unlocking plan.
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It would have helped greatly if India had been put on the Red list at least at the same time as Pakistan & Bangladesh. Having 1,000 people a day travelling from India will not have helped. Boris just never learns & people will again pay with their lives  |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic."
That’s now - look at what , according to SAGE is coming over the next few weeks! |
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic.
That’s now - look at what , according to SAGE is coming over the next few weeks!"
Are you getting this information direct from the SAGE website or another source, as I cant find anything on the official site? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic.
That’s now - look at what , according to SAGE is coming over the next few weeks!
Are you getting this information direct from the SAGE website or another source, as I cant find anything on the official site?"
I believe the information has come from this tried and trusted source ....
1. Read something off the front page of a newspaper (newspapers need something sensational each day on the front page to sell)
2. Misinterpret what’s been printed
3. Change completely what you have read
4. Start posting it in online forums
For me the only thing worth noting each day is the amount of hospital admissions and deaths. All the rest is just speculation. Let’s just see where we are at come June 21st
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By (user no longer on site)
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The Office for National Statistics estimates fewer than 50,000 people currently have the virus. The figure was 1.25 million at the start of the year. Currently there are only around 1,000 people in hospital with Covid.
This is directly quoted rather than twisted mis reporting.
I’d rather focus on positive current facts like this rather than things that might or might not happen in the future |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better."
Common sense no body should want to travel abroad when their is a global pandemic given each virus is different and bring back something that even the vaccine given wouldn't be able to control
I'm guessing you're one of those who would and feck everyone else long as you're plans for going abroad aren't ruined it's all good  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better.
Common sense no body should want to travel abroad when their is a global pandemic given each virus is different and bring back something that even the vaccine given wouldn't be able to control
I'm guessing you're one of those who would and feck everyone else long as you're plans for going abroad aren't ruined it's all good "
Why do so many people insist on telling people what they should ‘want’ to do. If you don’t want to travel abroad, no problem, that’s your choice I don’t have a problem with that. If someone else does want to travel abroad, and follows the various guidelines regards testing, isolation, quarantine etc when needed. Then that’s their prerogative. Let people lead their own lives and do what they want to do, not what you think they should want to do |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
2 weeks quarantine in a hotel for everyone entering/re-entering should have been sufficient. "
I understand your point with hotels but given people traveling around alone in UK whether weekend break or longer and those who use the time for clubbing use hotels then there is hen and stag parties wouldn't any of these need a room in a hotel unless a area was picked that didn't attract tourism |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better.
Common sense no body should want to travel abroad when their is a global pandemic given each virus is different and bring back something that even the vaccine given wouldn't be able to control
I'm guessing you're one of those who would and feck everyone else long as you're plans for going abroad aren't ruined it's all good
Why do so many people insist on telling people what they should ‘want’ to do. If you don’t want to travel abroad, no problem, that’s your choice I don’t have a problem with that. If someone else does want to travel abroad, and follows the various guidelines regards testing, isolation, quarantine etc when needed. Then that’s their prerogative. Let people lead their own lives and do what they want to do, not what you think they should want to do "
I suppose with that advice with risks involved people are still expected to receive NHS treatment if catching the virus this I highly wouldn't agree with as isn't enough data to show if anyone is protected with the vaccine they have already received |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better."
Also how would this be classified as punishment when it's a global pandemic and trying to control a dangerous virus that can kill, it's like saying because was allowed to travel pushing the blame on being allowed and catching the virus in another country |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better.
Common sense no body should want to travel abroad when their is a global pandemic given each virus is different and bring back something that even the vaccine given wouldn't be able to control
I'm guessing you're one of those who would and feck everyone else long as you're plans for going abroad aren't ruined it's all good
Why do so many people insist on telling people what they should ‘want’ to do. If you don’t want to travel abroad, no problem, that’s your choice I don’t have a problem with that. If someone else does want to travel abroad, and follows the various guidelines regards testing, isolation, quarantine etc when needed. Then that’s their prerogative. Let people lead their own lives and do what they want to do, not what you think they should want to do "
I understand your point of not having a problem, but in reality it all of us that ends up suffering and going back into lockdown just because and I'm sure I'm not alone on this and would like to get back to at least some sort of normality |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Punctuation is your friend
Were in a pandemic and I haven't saw my friends or some of my family since 2019 some in care "
Have your family and friends hoarded all your full stops and comma’s from you ? |
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"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better.
Common sense no body should want to travel abroad when their is a global pandemic given each virus is different and bring back something that even the vaccine given wouldn't be able to control
I'm guessing you're one of those who would and feck everyone else long as you're plans for going abroad aren't ruined it's all good "
So how does this work for people like myself that work overseas and have to travel?
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By (user no longer on site)
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Why do so many people insist on telling people what they should ‘want’ to do. If you don’t want to travel abroad, no problem, that’s your choice I don’t have a problem with that. If someone else does want to travel abroad, and follows the various guidelines regards testing, isolation, quarantine etc when needed. Then that’s their prerogative. Let people lead their own lives and do what they want to do, not what you think they should want to do
I understand your point of not having a problem, but in reality it all of us that ends up suffering and going back into lockdown just because and I'm sure I'm not alone on this and would like to get back to at least some sort of normality"
i dont actually have a problem with foreign travel as long as it is controlled and monitored and deemed to be safe - the countries which are safe chosen on data and not politics
same as i don’t have a problem with measured removal of lockdown restrictions within the uk either
its the folk trying at every turn to skirt round the rules that have really wound me up over the last year or so , the ones that appear to have 5 social bubbles , and have been gathering in houses and hugging for months, that have still been jetting off in the last 5 months finding a way to excuse it as essential travel, the ones posting meets on here all year trying to shag strangers because their sexual needs are more important than others health and well being and financial needs
its the selfishness of it that bothers me while the rest of us have sacrificed with the aim of beating this - some people their entire social contact and others their business and livelihood |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"Punctuation is your friend
Were in a pandemic and I haven't saw my friends or some of my family since 2019 some in care
Have your family and friends hoarded all your full stops and comma’s from you ? "
State of mind,I'm sure you'll understand what it may feel like, for someone who suffers from dementia and nobody coming to see them eh |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Time will tell.
Whitty has said this will become the dominant strain in the UK.
Two scenarios:
The buffoon chancer running the country was told by the scientists about this variant weeks ago, and, as a multi-billion pound trade deal was on the cards with India, (and an election)he not only allowed free travel , (while you were sat in the rain drinking beer),but even gave time to come back without quarantine so as to not upset India,in fact he even intended going there in person.
1. After the false doom predictions of the S.A, Brazil ,and Kent variants etc, etc, he may have chosen to go with Herd immunity and chance it.
2.The effects of this variant apparently dont fit in with the previous one which predominantly seriously effected the elderly, the vulnerable and can possibly evade the jab.Hence the Army and rush to vac younger people and the "drip" "drip" of conditioning for more lock-downs.
If this goes wrong, and it IS more dangerous and evade the vax this will be his biggest mistake so far-I wonder if his disciples will still adore him knowing he has thrown the Brits under a bus for a trade deal? |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better.
Common sense no body should want to travel abroad when their is a global pandemic given each virus is different and bring back something that even the vaccine given wouldn't be able to control
I'm guessing you're one of those who would and feck everyone else long as you're plans for going abroad aren't ruined it's all good
So how does this work for people like myself that work overseas and have to travel?
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I would put this under, it was necessary, as it's benefiting the economy |
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic. Absolutely let get our freedom back no more excuses "
Totally agree as far as we have been told the vaccine is protecting against the latest variant so keep up with the vaccination program and let us who have opted to have it get on with lives
The ones who have chose not to have it can continue to lock down
Bring in a vaccine passport |
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic. Absolutely let get our freedom back no more excuses
Totally agree as far as we have been told the vaccine is protecting against the latest variant so keep up with the vaccination program and let us who have opted to have it get on with lives
The ones who have chose not to have it can continue to lock down
Bring in a vaccine passport "
My thoughts exactly. |
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over a year ago
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"Yes once again we could be looking in the months a head into a another to fucking full lock down cos of this fucking strain from india
about that time all over sea trave was banned till the world has got back some controll over this fucking Virus Now hoilday over here for while put your fucking money in our counrey for a change I want my life back and ever one else
Now you cant fucking go over seas end off hoilday here fucking wankers
I dont want anymore more Veriants coming in our uk. I want to get the Uk back on track and it wont happen till you lrean this virus is real its killing poeple now there strains of it popping up all over the place now get it
Lets open this see what folk think"
I did see you folks in New Delhi ranting over the the kent strain affecting places outside Kent, funny old world.  |
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"I think will be better just move all population in the UK to Portugal for holidays
Why not just send them over to Israel if anyone has noticed is a war going on their "
All population i said , that includes you also
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"Yes once again we could be looking in the months a head into a another to fucking full lock down cos of this fucking strain from india
about that time all over sea trave was banned till the world has got back some controll over this fucking Virus Now hoilday over here for while put your fucking money in our counrey for a change I want my life back and ever one else
Now you cant fucking go over seas end off hoilday here fucking wankers
I dont want anymore more Veriants coming in our uk. I want to get the Uk back on track and it wont happen till you lrean this virus is real its killing poeple now there strains of it popping up all over the place now get it
Lets open this see what folk think"
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By (user no longer on site)
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People won't stand another lockdown huh? That's what they said before the one before this one.
Indian variant? Kent variant? that's countries and counties covered. How long before the town based Milton Keynes variant comes along?
And then we've got the parliamentarian review of the fixed terms act to think about.
Despite my interest in conspiracy theories, I have no doubt what so ever that Covid-19 is very real and that it kills people.
My only doubts are about whether Covid-19 originated from chinese bats, chinese laboratories or somewhere else. |
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic.
That’s now - look at what , according to SAGE is coming over the next few weeks!"
you mean the grim reapers |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If the Indian variant isn’t called Vindaflu I’m giving up on humanity"
Not a good time to make fun of all this.
I have a friend who's in a Korma and also lost his Naan last week. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"I think will be better just move all population in the UK to Portugal for holidays
Why not just send them over to Israel if anyone has noticed is a war going on their
All population i said , that includes you also
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If the Indian variant isn’t called Vindaflu I’m giving up on humanity
Not a good time to make fun of all this.
I have a friend who's in a Korma and also lost his Naan last week. "
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By *ickerMan
over a year ago
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"people will not stand another lockdown! And they shouldn’t why bother with the vaccine if it’s not any good ? "
I agree. Life is for living. I understand the ones that have the opposite view of staying safe. I personally would prefer to get on with things. You are not promised to live many years so make the most of the ones we have got. |
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"If the Indian variant isn’t called Vindaflu I’m giving up on humanity
Not a good time to make fun of all this.
I have a friend who's in a Korma and also lost his Naan last week.
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Oh you guys! You make me so proud  |
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"people will not stand another lockdown! And they shouldn’t why bother with the vaccine if it’s not any good ?
I agree. Life is for living. I understand the ones that have the opposite view of staying safe. I personally would prefer to get on with things. You are not promised to live many years so make the most of the ones we have got."
best post I've seen on here, that's what I'm doing. Both jabs done, pub Monday |
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"people will not stand another lockdown! And they shouldn’t why bother with the vaccine if it’s not any good ?
I agree. Life is for living. I understand the ones that have the opposite view of staying safe. I personally would prefer to get on with things. You are not promised to live many years so make the most of the ones we have got.best post I've seen on here, that's what I'm doing. Both jabs done, pub Monday "
Absolutely live life you don’t get another one , those who don’t want that stay home |
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Why do so many people insist on telling people what they should ‘want’ to do. If you don’t want to travel abroad, no problem, that’s your choice I don’t have a problem with that. If someone else does want to travel abroad, and follows the various guidelines regards testing, isolation, quarantine etc when needed. Then that’s their prerogative. Let people lead their own lives and do what they want to do, not what you think they should want to do
I understand your point of not having a problem, but in reality it all of us that ends up suffering and going back into lockdown just because and I'm sure I'm not alone on this and would like to get back to at least some sort of normality
i dont actually have a problem with foreign travel as long as it is controlled and monitored and deemed to be safe - the countries which are safe chosen on data and not politics
same as i don’t have a problem with measured removal of lockdown restrictions within the uk either
its the folk trying at every turn to skirt round the rules that have really wound me up over the last year or so , the ones that appear to have 5 social bubbles , and have been gathering in houses and hugging for months, that have still been jetting off in the last 5 months finding a way to excuse it as essential travel, the ones posting meets on here all year trying to shag strangers because their sexual needs are more important than others health and well being and financial needs
its the selfishness of it that bothers me while the rest of us have sacrificed with the aim of beating this - some people their entire social contact and others their business and livelihood "
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"Anyone know how the other countries that were hit hard doing like Spain Italy as it seems like not any news coverage gets announced via sky news besides India"
Worldometer should have up to date case and death figures. Both Italy and Spain are way behind us when it comes to vaccine rollout though. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"Anyone know how the other countries that were hit hard doing like Spain Italy as it seems like not any news coverage gets announced via sky news besides India
Worldometer should have up to date case and death figures. Both Italy and Spain are way behind us when it comes to vaccine rollout though."
Ok thanks, I was just wondering since we are still in a global pandemic and all the reports were constantly about them now it's just focusing on India like other countries are virus free |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone know how the other countries that were hit hard doing like Spain Italy as it seems like not any news coverage gets announced via sky news besides India
Worldometer should have up to date case and death figures. Both Italy and Spain are way behind us when it comes to vaccine rollout though."
Just looked we seem to be doing well with the virus.
We still have the most deaths in Europe.
But our cases, deaths and hospitalizations are way below everyone around us at this moment in time. |
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"I fully agree Passion Queen country is full of selfish tossers."
Not helped by politicians pandering to a culture of acquisition of property and wealth. Don't expect much change in that situation any time soon.
Selfish tossers rule UK! |
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Spot on it never happened at the star.
We have known about this a while and yet Boris again dif fk all so for me aby deaths via the india variant hoping there are nobe any that do die buck stops with Boris.
Deliberate decision and now he is culpable for his action it does make me wonder if this is bit of population control.
Dangerous bloke dangerous games being played.
"We need to learn to put immediate travel bans in place or for those returning to the UK who are in a prevalant country that has been identiffied as a high risk area to return into quarantine. Not self quarantine but proper quarantine until they test negative. The people who rush back to avoid quarantine rules are likely to be responsible whether knowingly or unknowingly for bringing variants back, so if that factor is removed we all might be safer and stop future lockdowns occurring. "
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My main concern is either the vaccine works or it’s a bag of shit, as Boris intimated a few weeks ago when he stated that the fall in deaths was down to lockdown and not the shit vaccine !
That’s my rant on the cunt that’s supposedly running the country out of the way anyway !
Seriously though, look at the number of people that have actually had Covid19, add to that the amount of people that have been vaccinated and finally add to that the fact, that according to Whitty younger people get the virus but aren’t hospitalised from it.
Based on that why should we - as SAGE stated today - have more hospitalised than the last wave at the start of the year ?
Surely the mathematics don’t stack up, if we supposedly have herd immunity a few weeks ago ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Close the borders. Nothing in or out. Of course we will probably starve before covid ends.
Only holiday in UK. Help create a new Kent strain or a brand new London variety.
Don't travel abroad to a country with a level lower than here. Come visit my area, which is currently a hotspot.
Yes it's a global pandemic but hiding away won't stop it in a society built on global trade. Even if we fully lockdown for a year we would still be vulnerable. The virus wants to survive and multiply. Vaccinations and living as normal life as possible best way.
I saw an interview with an 83 year old lady during lockdown. "I don't have long left anyway. I don't want to spend those days imprisoned in my home." |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This last lockdown never really happened def no lack of people and traffic about so there is not much chance of people taking any notice of restrictions being put back into place. A lot of the population really have had enough of this shit now. |
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"Surely the mathematics don’t stack up, "
Yeah, you're probably right. Generally when I am offered advice about this sort of thing by a group of expert scientists or some untrained person on social media I go with the latter.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If the Indian variant isn’t called Vindaflu I’m giving up on humanity
Not a good time to make fun of all this.
I have a friend who's in a Korma and also lost his Naan last week. "
You obviously had the Pun Jab |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If the Indian variant isn’t called Vindaflu I’m giving up on humanity
Not a good time to make fun of all this.
I have a friend who's in a Korma and also lost his Naan last week.
You obviously had the Pun Jab"
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By *AABMan
over a year ago
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"Just to put a bit of perspective on this in January we were averaging 50,000 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 12.8%
When the last wave hit we were averaging 14,550 case a day with a test positivity rate of 4.5%
On the 12th May we were averaging 2,300 cases a day with a test positivity rate of 0.2%.
In January we were averaging 1250 deaths a day.
At the start of the last wave we were averaging 450 deaths a day.
Today we are averaging less than 10 deaths a day.
The vaccine has put us in a very different and stronger position in this pandemic.
That’s now - look at what , according to SAGE is coming over the next few weeks!
Are you getting this information direct from the SAGE website or another source, as I cant find anything on the official site?
I believe the information has come from this tried and trusted source ....
1. Read something off the front page of a newspaper (newspapers need something sensational each day on the front page to sell)
2. Misinterpret what’s been printed
3. Change completely what you have read
4. Start posting it in online forums
For me the only thing worth noting each day is the amount of hospital admissions and deaths. All the rest is just speculation. Let’s just see where we are at come June 21st
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"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better.
Common sense no body should want to travel abroad when their is a global pandemic given each virus is different and bring back something that even the vaccine given wouldn't be able to control
I'm guessing you're one of those who would and feck everyone else long as you're plans for going abroad aren't ruined it's all good "
What is abroad for you is home for many thousand if not millions of UK residents. Abroad is where many have dying residents and business interests. It’s not all about selfish holiday makers. |
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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago
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Close the borders until the world has the pandemic under control, far better we are free to roam our own country than locked in our homes again. It is probably a small percentage of the nation that insist on going abroad for a few days sun and booze so if they are stopped it won't be that big a price to pay. If you working abroad either stay there for the duration or we have to furlough you, that won't be anything like as big a cost as furloughing a lot workers in the UK. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think if people decide to go abroad on holiday shouldn't be allowed to return until the virus has gone from the country you left to travel from IE uk life is about choices whether it's their own or thinking further afield as a population...
So if someone is allowed to travel legally they should then be barred from returning as punishment for not committing any offence.
lol you get better.
Common sense no body should want to travel abroad when their is a global pandemic given each virus is different and bring back something that even the vaccine given wouldn't be able to control
I'm guessing you're one of those who would and feck everyone else long as you're plans for going abroad aren't ruined it's all good "
Spot on
No matter what, international travel is an issue and can only add to problems at the moment. There’s a mindset out there that really doesn’t care as long as their own lives are not inconvenienced by attempts to control the problem. |
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By *rufflesCouple
over a year ago
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"Yes once again we could be looking in the months a head into a another to fucking full lock down cos of this fucking strain from india
about that time all over sea trave was banned till the world has got back some controll over this fucking Virus Now hoilday over here for while put your fucking money in our counrey for a change I want my life back and ever one else
Now you cant fucking go over seas end off hoilday here fucking wankers
I dont want anymore more Veriants coming in our uk. I want to get the Uk back on track and it wont happen till you lrean this virus is real its killing poeple now there strains of it popping up all over the place now get it
Lets open this see what folk think"
Sooo (fucking) eloquently put!!! |
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"Surely the mathematics don’t stack up,
Yeah, you're probably right. Generally when I am offered advice about this sort of thing by a group of expert scientists or some untrained person on social media I go with the latter.
Yours
Boris"
Are these the same scientists that claim 500,000 people would die of this virus, the same scientists that claimed industrial units at airports would have to be used as temporary morgues to pile up the bodies, the same scientists that claimed hospitals would be so overwhelmed that we had to build Nightingale Hospitals that were never used, the same scientists that claimed death the Kent variant would be claiming 4,000 deaths a day, the same scientists that claimed hospital admissions would spiral out of control when schools went back in March ?
No one doubts Covid19 isn’t real but the scientists have brought scaremongering to a new level !
Even now claiming that the Indian variant could be between 10 -50% more transmissible, but don’t really know !
I like to work on facts, not bullshit guesses by scientists that have spent the whole pandemic with hard-ons being on TV every day but actually have got a single prediction right ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Surely the mathematics don’t stack up,
Yeah, you're probably right. Generally when I am offered advice about this sort of thing by a group of expert scientists or some untrained person on social media I go with the latter.
Yours
Boris
Are these the same scientists that claim 500,000 people would die of this virus, the same scientists that claimed industrial units at airports would have to be used as temporary morgues to pile up the bodies, the same scientists that claimed hospitals would be so overwhelmed that we had to build Nightingale Hospitals that were never used, the same scientists that claimed death the Kent variant would be claiming 4,000 deaths a day, the same scientists that claimed hospital admissions would spiral out of control when schools went back in March ?
No one doubts Covid19 isn’t real but the scientists have brought scaremongering to a new level !
Even now claiming that the Indian variant could be between 10 -50% more transmissible, but don’t really know !
I like to work on facts, not bullshit guesses by scientists that have spent the whole pandemic with hard-ons being on TV every day but actually have got a single prediction right !"
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yeah I agree with you op how hard is it to just shut down all travel coming in selfish twats wanting to go on holiday but so do I some fantastic places here no need to go abroad should have been like australia.and before they start moaning about jobs not bothered if all airlines go under if it saves life's it's worth it so come on Boris just shut the borders. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I thought the airlines had all this covered, testing, quarantine etc...useless, they should be brought to account, all they do is whine and whinge about not getting passenger numbers. If it wasnt for airlines this disease wouldn't have spread worldwide. All they're concerned about is cash, never mind spreading the virus...oh, and suffocating the planet with their not-so-green jet engines....end of rant.  |
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"Yeah I agree with you op how hard is it to just shut down all travel coming in selfish twats wanting to go on holiday but so do I some fantastic places here no need to go abroad should have been like australia.and before they start moaning about jobs not bothered if all airlines go under if it saves life's it's worth it so come on Boris just shut the borders."
People will start moaning about covid cases at holiday resorts throughout the UK then
Or perhaps the virus doesn't mutate in the UK oh wasn't there a Kent variant
Let's be honest when people holiday abroad they mix less with people they tend to keep themselves to themselves they spend most of time outdoors as weather's better than in UK
I don't blame anyone from wanting a break elsewhere
Perhaps if everyone who had been offered the vaccine had taken it then fewer cases would be finding there way across borders
I say keep up with the vaccines and put passport in place to enter any indoor events and foreign travel |
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Its a cause for concern but likely that the vacinne will offer some protection. "
Five people in hospital with this variant have had one vaccination and only one person (who was already frail) has had both. No one who has been vaccinated has died because of this mutation. This is what Hancock said this morning on Andrew Marr show. |
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Its a cause for concern but likely that the vacinne will offer some protection.
Five people in hospital with this variant have had one vaccination and only one person (who was already frail) has had both. No one who has been vaccinated has died because of this mutation. This is what Hancock said this morning on Andrew Marr show. "
Vaccine escape seems to be pretty rare so far, in general. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah I agree with you op how hard is it to just shut down all travel coming in selfish twats wanting to go on holiday but so do I some fantastic places here no need to go abroad should have been like australia.and before they start moaning about jobs not bothered if all airlines go under if it saves life's it's worth it so come on Boris just shut the borders.
People will start moaning about covid cases at holiday resorts throughout the UK then
Or perhaps the virus doesn't mutate in the UK oh wasn't there a Kent variant
Let's be honest when people holiday abroad they mix less with people they tend to keep themselves to themselves they spend most of time outdoors as weather's better than in UK
I don't blame anyone from wanting a break elsewhere
Perhaps if everyone who had been offered the vaccine had taken it then fewer cases would be finding there way across borders
I say keep up with the vaccines and put passport in place to enter any indoor events and foreign travel"
I think many people are blaming the spread on 'other people'/ international travel.
Yet they will happily go hang out with their mates in Bolton/ Kent/ London. But they won't be doing any quarantine or testing when they get back home. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah I agree with you op how hard is it to just shut down all travel coming in selfish twats wanting to go on holiday but so do I some fantastic places here no need to go abroad should have been like australia.and before they start moaning about jobs not bothered if all airlines go under if it saves life's it's worth it so come on Boris just shut the borders.
People will start moaning about covid cases at holiday resorts throughout the UK then
Or perhaps the virus doesn't mutate in the UK oh wasn't there a Kent variant
Let's be honest when people holiday abroad they mix less with people they tend to keep themselves to themselves they spend most of time outdoors as weather's better than in UK
I don't blame anyone from wanting a break elsewhere
Perhaps if everyone who had been offered the vaccine had taken it then fewer cases would be finding there way across borders
I say keep up with the vaccines and put passport in place to enter any indoor events and foreign travel
I think many people are blaming the spread on 'other people'/ international travel.
Yet they will happily go hang out with their mates in Bolton/ Kent/ London. But they won't be doing any quarantine or testing when they get back home. "
yep its easier to look at point at others than alter our own behaviour and mindset |
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Government are all but coming out and saying, if you are vaccinated you have nothing to worry about. They are saying that every person in hospital with this variant is people who are unvaccinated. |
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"If we ki going back in to lockdown every time there is a new type of covid then we will never be out of lockdown. "
I read an article from one of the SAGE advisers last week, where he said he thought that we should be in full lockdown in this country until the whole world had been vaccinated, which was estimated to be around mid-2022.
If these are the sort of comments that dictates our government’s policy on Covid19 then we are in for a long wait for freedom ! |
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"If we ki going back in to lockdown every time there is a new type of covid then we will never be out of lockdown.
I read an article from one of the SAGE advisers last week, where he said he thought that we should be in full lockdown in this country until the whole world had been vaccinated, which was estimated to be around mid-2022.
If these are the sort of comments that dictates our government’s policy on Covid19 then we are in for a long wait for freedom ! "
I don't believe in anything SAGE say after one of them broke the lockdown rules last year. |
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"If we ki going back in to lockdown every time there is a new type of covid then we will never be out of lockdown.
I read an article from one of the SAGE advisers last week, where he said he thought that we should be in full lockdown in this country until the whole world had been vaccinated, which was estimated to be around mid-2022.
If these are the sort of comments that dictates our government’s policy on Covid19 then we are in for a long wait for freedom ! "
sage are one set of advisors , they don’t make the rules , the govt also have other advisors including economic advisors , its then the govts job to weigh things up and make decisions so the opinion of one sage advisor wont make one blind bit of difference as she doesn’t create policy |
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"If we ki going back in to lockdown every time there is a new type of covid then we will never be out of lockdown.
I read an article from one of the SAGE advisers last week, where he said he thought that we should be in full lockdown in this country until the whole world had been vaccinated, which was estimated to be around mid-2022.
If these are the sort of comments that dictates our government’s policy on Covid19 then we are in for a long wait for freedom !
I don't believe in anything SAGE say after one of them broke the lockdown rules last year. "
I don't believe anything men say. One lied to me so they are all liars. All of them. |
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"I can see this june date being pushed back"
You're probably right there, as we're relying on peoples common sense to keep things safe...that's just asking for trouble |
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Time to follow the french example.when the uk variant was found the french shut down the borders between england and europe for two weeks and the lorry drivers were quarantined at an old uk airbase . We should do the same now |
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"If we ki going back in to lockdown every time there is a new type of covid then we will never be out of lockdown.
I read an article from one of the SAGE advisers last week, where he said he thought that we should be in full lockdown in this country until the whole world had been vaccinated, which was estimated to be around mid-2022.
If these are the sort of comments that dictates our government’s policy on Covid19 then we are in for a long wait for freedom !
sage are one set of advisors , they don’t make the rules , the govt also have other advisors including economic advisors , its then the govts job to weigh things up and make decisions so the opinion of one sage advisor wont make one blind bit of difference as she doesn’t create policy "
Unfortunately the wankers Whitty and Vallance are all you ever see the government roll out with their ‘graphs of doom’ to scare the population never to lead a normal life ever again !
I don’t believe the financial impact assessment has even been done by the government on the overall impact of lockdowns on the country, it’s all been about ‘don’t kill granny’ ! |
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sage are one set of advisors , they don’t make the rules , the govt also have other advisors including economic advisors , its then the govts job to weigh things up and make decisions so the opinion of one sage advisor wont make one blind bit of difference as she doesn’t create policy "
This is a false dichotomy. If we had adopted a zero Covid policy we would have suffered very little damage to the economy and the mental health of the nation. We are carefully steering a zigzag course to the the worst of all possible worlds.
By fretting about the economy we are consistently closing down late, re-opening early and inflicting maximum pain.
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