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BBC reports Covid vaccine: Period changes could be a short-term side effect!

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Anyone experiencing side-effects? I've also been hearing of people who haven't had the jab but have been in close proximity to others who have experiencing heavy periods, it's all very concerning!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

How on earth would people that have been in close proximity to people that have had the vaccine be affected

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By *anae21Woman over a year ago

Nearer than you think

"Anyone experiencing side-effects? I've also been hearing of people who haven't had the jab but have been in close proximity to others who have experiencing heavy periods, it's all very concerning! "

BS alert....

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

"Anyone experiencing side-effects? I've also been hearing of people who haven't had the jab but have been in close proximity to others who have experiencing heavy periods, it's all very concerning!

BS alert....

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By *nked_kittenWoman over a year ago

Ankh Morpork

Maybe the OP is worried that if all woman that have the vaccine or have contact with someone else that’s had it have heavy periods after that he won’t be able to have sex again for a bit

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How on earth would people that have been in close proximity to people that have had the vaccine be affected "

This does sound very unsound..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened."

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Maybe the OP is worried that if all woman that have the vaccine or have contact with someone else that’s had it have heavy periods after that he won’t be able to have sex again for a bit"

Hey, I've managed to survive throughout lockdown, I can go a bit longer, it's not all about me though is it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"How on earth would people that have been in close proximity to people that have had the vaccine be affected

This does sound very unsound..

I wish it were just a conspiracy but there have been numerous reports of this now, I also recognise that stress and a few other things can be factors but not long ago many people believed this vaccine totally safe but then all of a sudden the BBC a reputable news source reports this..... merely pointing out it is cause for concern.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

I'm peri menopausal and hadn't had a period in 9 months. I had the vaccine in march thenperiods in april and may so could be linked though i don't see how.

Or its just coincidence.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It really does surprise me that for a community that's so open-minded when it comes to sex, that same openmindedness doesn't extend to other subjects....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How on earth would people that have been in close proximity to people that have had the vaccine be affected

This does sound very unsound..

Keep up the scare mongering... (slow, sarcastic clap)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm peri menopausal and hadn't had a period in 9 months. I had the vaccine in march thenperiods in april and may so could be linked though i don't see how.

Or its just coincidence. "

There does seem to be a lot of coincidences occuring, things that make me go hmmmmmm...

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By *heNYCSausageMan over a year ago

Everton

"Anyone experiencing side-effects? I've also been hearing of people who haven't had the jab but have been in close proximity to others who have experiencing heavy periods, it's all very concerning! "

Yes! I met someone who’s had both jabs and I’ve noticed blood coming out of my arse now in irregular periods

That must be the reason.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine."

Not how I read it but can see that interpretation. I thought they meant they heard it from someone?

But yeah/no you can’t catch periods!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How on earth would people that have been in close proximity to people that have had the vaccine be affected

This does sound very unsound..

The BBC have reported on it yes but you've missed out that at present it's largely anecdotal..

Why are you saying many people believed the vaccine? Totally safe?

All medications, vaccines have potential side effects..

The point you made about someone in close proximity to someone else also being affected if one person is having a reaction/not yet known side effect is unsound..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine.

Not how I read it but can see that interpretation. I thought they meant they heard it from someone?

But yeah/no you can’t catch periods!"

Where did I say, I know someone? You absolutely read it correctly.

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"I'm peri menopausal and hadn't had a period in 9 months. I had the vaccine in march thenperiods in april and may so could be linked though i don't see how.

Or its just coincidence. "
could be you are going through menopause

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"It really does surprise me that for a community that's so open-minded when it comes to sex, that same openmindedness doesn't extend to other subjects...."

Possibly because on this forum at times it's gone from the possible to the deliberately spreading disinformation..

There are however some very qualified people in the various areas that have assisted those of us not scientifically qualified..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It really does surprise me that for a community that's so open-minded when it comes to sex, that same openmindedness doesn't extend to other subjects....

Possibly because on this forum at times it's gone from the possible to the deliberately spreading disinformation..

There are however some very qualified people in the various areas that have assisted those of us not scientifically qualified..

Up until a few days ago talking about the experience of numerous women experiencing changes in their periods was considered spreading disinformation, today the BBC are reporting it....

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine.

Not how I read it but can see that interpretation. I thought they meant they heard it from someone?

But yeah/no you can’t catch periods!

Where did I say, I know someone? You absolutely read it correctly."

Perhaps clarification is needed then OP ?

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

"Maybe the OP is worried that if all woman that have the vaccine or have contact with someone else that’s had it have heavy periods after that he won’t be able to have sex again for a bit

Hey, I've managed to survive throughout lockdown, I can go a bit longer, it's not all about me though is it!"

Don't worry, periods are a piece of cake. Stock up on chocolate, wine, rom-coms and tissues.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"It really does surprise me that for a community that's so open-minded when it comes to sex, that same openmindedness doesn't extend to other subjects....

Possibly because on this forum at times it's gone from the possible to the deliberately spreading disinformation..

There are however some very qualified people in the various areas that have assisted those of us not scientifically qualified..

Up until a few days ago talking about the experience of numerous women experiencing changes in their periods was considered spreading disinformation, today the BBC are reporting it...."

No one's said that though have they..

Tbh I heard about it half hour ago, it wasn't on their site this morning..

Or I missed it..

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

The BBC article explains why short term disruption to menstrual cycles might be a side effect and has been observed in other vaccines too.

BBC News - Covid vaccine: Period changes could be a short-term side effect

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56901353

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

There's absolutely no evidence it affects fertility.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone experiencing side-effects? I've also been hearing of people who haven't had the jab but have been in close proximity to others who have experiencing heavy periods, it's all very concerning! "

If the world's population dies out I'd imagine all the Gods will be relieved they don't have to be concerned with all the utter shite anymore.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine.

Not how I read it but can see that interpretation. I thought they meant they heard it from someone?

But yeah/no you can’t catch periods!

Where did I say, I know someone? You absolutely read it correctly."

Sorry OP am totally confused by your use of word “proximity” so...

1. Extended or continuous periods for a small number of women does appear to be a side effect (and as per my original post we do know someone who this has happened to).

2. Re-reading the wording of your post you seem to be implying that this side effect can be caught by someone else if they are in close proximity to someone already affected. Is that what you are saying?

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

"I'm peri menopausal and hadn't had a period in 9 months. I had the vaccine in march thenperiods in april and may so could be linked though i don't see how.

Or its just coincidence. could be you are going through menopause "

You have to go a year without to be considered menopausal. But not unusual for them to start and stop so i wasnt worried. It is possible though it is triggered by the immune response. Who knows? Definitely won't stop me getting the second one in June though. I did report it as a possible side effect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I reported this as a side effect too after my first jab in Feb.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine.

Not how I read it but can see that interpretation. I thought they meant they heard it from someone?

But yeah/no you can’t catch periods!

Where did I say, I know someone? You absolutely read it correctly.

Sorry OP am totally confused by your use of word “proximity” so...

1. Extended or continuous periods for a small number of women does appear to be a side effect (and as per my original post we do know someone who this has happened to).

Yes although it is just a theory the studies by modernsa mention the possibility of spike protein shedding by the "vaccinated"

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

*moderna (bloody autocorrect)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Also I must point out that I'm not advocating either way, each to their own, if anything I encourage being of an open mind on the subject.

I'm just very curious as to how real the reports are, knowledge is power.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine.

Not how I read it but can see that interpretation. I thought they meant they heard it from someone?

But yeah/no you can’t catch periods!

Where did I say, I know someone? You absolutely read it correctly.

Sorry OP am totally confused by your use of word “proximity” so...

1. Extended or continuous periods for a small number of women does appear to be a side effect (and as per my original post we do know someone who this has happened to).

Yes although it is just a theory the studies by modernsa mention the possibility of spike protein shedding by the "vaccinated""

The world is doomed. I absolutely despair I really do.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine.

Not how I read it but can see that interpretation. I thought they meant they heard it from someone?

But yeah/no you can’t catch periods!

Where did I say, I know someone? You absolutely read it correctly.

Sorry OP am totally confused by your use of word “proximity” so...

1. Extended or continuous periods for a small number of women does appear to be a side effect (and as per my original post we do know someone who this has happened to).

Yes although it is just a theory the studies by modernsa mention the possibility of spike protein shedding by the "vaccinated""

Link please?

From what's easy to find on the web it's saying Moderna is not a live virus so therefore shedding can't occur?

Unlike with the actual virus..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Link please?

From what's easy to find on the web it's saying Moderna is not a live virus so therefore shedding can't occur?

Unlike with the actual virus.."

My mistake it's in the Pfizer report on page 67.

https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Link please?

From what's easy to find on the web it's saying Moderna is not a live virus so therefore shedding can't occur?

Unlike with the actual virus..

My mistake it's in the Pfizer report on page 67.

https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf

Pfizer, biotech, Johnson and Johnson and Moderna do not use live virus in their vaccines so a person can't she'd them post jab..

This is the latest theory from some intent on disinformation who have by and large been shown to be wrong as the pandemic has/ is progressing..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Pfizer, biotech, Johnson and Johnson and Moderna do not use live virus in their vaccines so a person can't she'd them post jab..

This is the latest theory from some intent on disinformation who have by and large been shown to be wrong as the pandemic has/ is progressing.."

No you're correct they don't use the live virus, mRNA (messenger RNA) is a new approach, RNA programmed to produce "harmless" spike protein, but they were wise enough to study and document the potential for a host to shed spike protein, this added to growing evidence of unvaccinated women experiencing the same period sideeffects is to me cause for concern.

We're in unchartered water and only time will tell.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS over a year ago

doncaster

I've had both Pfizer and I swear it's made my toe nails grow faster speshly the big one !!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Again it baffles me how quick to judge and namecall people on this forum are, I have no problem with changing my mind down the line but right now I'm determined to exercise caution.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Pfizer, biotech, Johnson and Johnson and Moderna do not use live virus in their vaccines so a person can't she'd them post jab..

This is the latest theory from some intent on disinformation who have by and large been shown to be wrong as the pandemic has/ is progressing..

We're in unchartered water and only time will tell."

None of the 'growing evidence' was detected in any of the trials..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This isn't new information it was reported on the BBC about 3 weeks ago a school in America has sacked staff who have the vaccine as some of the unvaccinated female staff have reported have menstrual issues after being in contact with them!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56905752.amp

Sorry I was wrong above, they haven't sacked them just stopped them having contact with students.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56905752.amp

Sorry I was wrong above, they haven't sacked them just stopped them having contact with students. "

They are anti Vax..

as for the people filling the web with disinformation that a person can shed vaccine which isn't possible..

Who knows..

There may well be issues with a side effect that is causing the above, there may be others yet to come but a vaccinated woman can't shed anything to affect an unvaccinated woman..

It's being spun and spread and if we consider that one reason is to stop people being vaccinated with the possibility of the consequences of catching and spreading covid it's pretty obscene..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56905752.amp

Sorry I was wrong above, they haven't sacked them just stopped them having contact with students.

They are anti Vax..

as for the people filling the web with disinformation that a person can shed vaccine which isn't possible..

Who knows..

There may well be issues with a side effect that is causing the above, there may be others yet to come but a vaccinated woman can't shed anything to affect an unvaccinated woman..

It's being spun and spread and if we consider that one reason is to stop people being vaccinated with the possibility of the consequences of catching and spreading covid it's pretty obscene.."

But then, what ultimately is the goal? The vaccinated are safe are they not? They only ones in danger really largely are the unvaccinated, enlighten me if I'm wrong.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Not BS. We know a Consultant Doctor in the NHS who since having the vaccine a few months ago has pretty much had a continuous period. Doesn’t mean this is widespread/common but it has happened.

You might want to read what the OP said. That he knows someone getting this side effect from being near someone who has had the vaccine.

Not how I read it but can see that interpretation. I thought they meant they heard it from someone?

But yeah/no you can’t catch periods!

Where did I say, I know someone? You absolutely read it correctly.

Sorry OP am totally confused by your use of word “proximity” so...

1. Extended or continuous periods for a small number of women does appear to be a side effect (and as per my original post we do know someone who this has happened to).

Yes although it is just a theory the studies by modernsa mention the possibility of spike protein shedding by the "vaccinated""

There's absolutely zero scientific mechanism by which spike protein can be shed by a vaccinated person and Moderns most certainly have not suggested it can happen. This is an internet conspiracy theory.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56905752.amp

Sorry I was wrong above, they haven't sacked them just stopped them having contact with students. "

The Headteacher is a rampant anti vaxxer who spreads nonsense and disinformation online. She's crackers. Any child of mine at such a school would be removed forthwith.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56905752.amp

Sorry I was wrong above, they haven't sacked them just stopped them having contact with students.

They are anti Vax..

as for the people filling the web with disinformation that a person can shed vaccine which isn't possible..

Who knows..

There may well be issues with a side effect that is causing the above, there may be others yet to come but a vaccinated woman can't shed anything to affect an unvaccinated woman..

It's being spun and spread and if we consider that one reason is to stop people being vaccinated with the possibility of the consequences of catching and spreading covid it's pretty obscene..

But then, what ultimately is the goal? The vaccinated are safe are they not? They only ones in danger really largely are the unvaccinated, enlighten me if I'm wrong."

I think you'd be better served addressing that question to those who share that aim..

Funny enough when some of the old conspiracy theories were being bandied about on here during the last 16/7 months when those espousing them were asked they often answered with links to conspiracy sites, not something I'm familiar with..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

A conspiracy is only a conspiracy until is proven to be true.....

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By *nked_kittenWoman over a year ago

Ankh Morpork

"I'm peri menopausal and hadn't had a period in 9 months. I had the vaccine in march thenperiods in april and may so could be linked though i don't see how.

Or its just coincidence.

There does seem to be a lot of coincidences occuring, things that make me go hmmmmmm..."

I don’t think me having the vaccine would affect a woman’s periods if she hadn’t had the vaccine

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"A conspiracy is only a conspiracy until is proven to be true....."
you are not going to get changes to your periods just by being in close proximity to someone who had a vaccine.. or any other medication come to think of it.

I'm not saying that vaccine isn't changing periods as to be fair the stress or anxiety of current situations could be messing but simply being in close proximity isn't going to do so

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Is it published research, in a reputable scientific journal, that's been peer reviewed?

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By *nked_kittenWoman over a year ago

Ankh Morpork

Do I need a warning label on me now? To warn off not vaccinated woman that I’m a force of nature in my own right now?

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By *anae21Woman over a year ago

Nearer than you think

"A conspiracy is only a conspiracy until is proven to be true....."

Dreddie, step away from the Internet. You've had quite enough for one day.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"A conspiracy is only a conspiracy until *it's proven to be true.....

Dreddie, step away from the Internet. You've had quite enough for one day. "

So to get this straight your way of dealing with people you disagree with is to make fun of them? Cool, good for you. I see a lot of this on this forum, not really a great place for freethinking, sharing ideas or questioning the status quo. Understood.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm peri menopausal and hadn't had a period in 9 months. I had the vaccine in march thenperiods in april and may so could be linked though i don't see how.

Or its just coincidence. "
probably coincidence. You can still have a period after 9 months. You have to be 12 months clear. Including any spotting.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

To add to this... Saw the article on BBC and was of interest as gf is on the merina coil and hasn't had a period for 5 years.... Had the az jab and has been bleeding on and off for a month.... Trying to see her gp about it as we speak. Given the other thread on women's health I'd imagine they will prescribe antidepressants or paracetamol and a hot water bottle.

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By *anae21Woman over a year ago

Nearer than you think

"To add to this... Saw the article on BBC and was of interest as gf is on the merina coil and hasn't had a period for 5 years.... Had the az jab and has been bleeding on and off for a month.... Trying to see her gp about it as we speak. Given the other thread on women's health I'd imagine they will prescribe antidepressants or paracetamol and a hot water bottle. "

No one is denying that menstruation can be affected by stress, illness, or other unusual circumstances (longhaul flights, for instance).

What's unbelievable is the OP's suggestion that side effects can be experienced merely by being near someone who's had the vaccine.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

No one is denying that menstruation can be affected by stress, illness, or other unusual circumstances (longhaul flights, for instance).

What's unbelievable is the OP's suggestion that side effects can be experienced merely by being near someone who's had the vaccine. "

this... although many things can affect a woman's period. Stress and anxiety being a big one... with the worries about the vaccine it could be that the worry is the contributory factor. But I'm sure they will look into it.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

Taken from the BBC article this is about.

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Vaccine misinformation

Meanwhile, the notion of vaccines affecting periods has been picked up by people spreading misinformation on social media.

Anti-vaccine and conspiracy theory groups have presented genuine accounts of people's personal experiences - like Dr Clancy's thread - as evidence of vaccines causing damage, or being part of a sterilisation plot by global elites.

False claims that women's cycles or even pregnancies could be affected just by being near vaccinated people have gained significant traction on social media in recent weeks.

One such video, viewed well over 300,000 times since mid-April, shows a "holistic reproductive practitioner" warning users that "women's periods and their menstrual cycles are being significantly affected, even if they haven't received it [the vaccine] themselves".

Other anti-vaccine advocates and holistic health practitioners, in posts gaining hundreds of thousands of views across platforms, claimed vaccinated people can "shed" the virus's spike protein to others.

This is physically impossible.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I hope she's ok and gets a doctor who sympathises

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No one is denying that menstruation can be affected by stress, illness, or other unusual circumstances (longhaul flights, for instance).

What's unbelievable is the OP's suggestion that side effects can be experienced merely by being near someone who's had the vaccine. "

Merely stating that this has also been reported by numerous women online, I'm fascinated and curious to see how widespread this is, people seem to be overly defensive of their standpoint on this vaccine to the extent that they're ridiculing others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Taken from the BBC article this is about.

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Vaccine misinformation

Meanwhile, the notion of vaccines affecting periods has been picked up by people spreading misinformation on social media.

False claims that women's cycles or even pregnancies could be affected just by being near vaccinated people have gained significant traction on social media in recent weeks.

This is physically impossible.

Up until today reports of side-effects were being shouted down as anti-vaxxer conspiracies, is no one willing to have an open-mind on this?

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

Dreddie not sure that is true. Yes the more outlandish claims were being rebuffed or ridiculed but most people understand and accept there are known short term side effects.

A lot of people are of the view that statistically these are less likely and less dangerous than the alternative.

What we don’t, and cannot yet, know are if there are any long term side effects.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"A conspiracy is only a conspiracy until *it's proven to be true.....

Dreddie, step away from the Internet. You've had quite enough for one day.

On the other hand there's a fair talent for snuffing out disinformation and bs conspiracies..

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

I hope she's ok and gets a doctor who sympathises"

Thanks...

Gp access around here is like rocking horse shit so we will keep our fingers crossed.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"No one is denying that menstruation can be affected by stress, illness, or other unusual circumstances (longhaul flights, for instance).

What's unbelievable is the OP's suggestion that side effects can be experienced merely by being near someone who's had the vaccine.

And it's been acknowledged as a possible side effect by several people..

But you've also posted factually incorrect stuff and failed to back up your claims..

Standard format to then blame the forum for being close minded which is patently not the case..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

All effective interventions have side effects. I haven't heard anything reputable, at the moment, about disregulation of menstruation. I don't know what's possible physiologically.

The question is always risk versus benefit.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I hope she's ok and gets a doctor who sympathises

Thanks...

Gp access around here is like rocking horse shit so we will keep our fingers crossed. "

Not good.

Be assertive - as someone who's been repeatedly disbelieved over my gynae issues. (not Covid or vaccine related)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Up until today reports of side-effects were being shouted down as anti-vaxxer conspiracies, is no one willing to have an open-mind on this?"

It's scary how much suppression of information about vaccine reactions their is.

You're shouted down as a conspiracy theorist if you dare mention them.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Up until today reports of side-effects were being shouted down as anti-vaxxer conspiracies, is no one willing to have an open-mind on this?

It's scary how much suppression of information about vaccine reactions their is.

You're shouted down as a conspiracy theorist if you dare mention them.

Not the case if your refering to potential side effects and possible reactions..

It's part of the vaccination training and it's given to each person as well as how to report to the GP/ Mhra..

The mhra site is freely available..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Up until today reports of side-effects were being shouted down as anti-vaxxer conspiracies, is no one willing to have an open-mind on this?

It's scary how much suppression of information about vaccine reactions their is.

You're shouted down as a conspiracy theorist if you dare mention them.

Last Wednesday I got jabbed.

12 hours later I woke bolt upright with my arm on fire. Spent the next day in bed, fever, chills, aching bones, slept all day. Splitting headache.

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By *nked_kittenWoman over a year ago

Ankh Morpork

Up until today reports of side-effects were being shouted down as anti-vaxxer conspiracies, is no one willing to have an open-mind on this?

It's scary how much suppression of information about vaccine reactions their is.

You're shouted down as a conspiracy theorist if you dare mention them.

We are shouting down the ability for me to walk past an unvaccinated woman and cause her to have a heavy period just because we were near each other.

Not that the vaccine can cause changes to periods.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"Taken from the BBC article this is about.

.......

Vaccine misinformation

Meanwhile, the notion of vaccines affecting periods has been picked up by people spreading misinformation on social media.

False claims that women's cycles or even pregnancies could be affected just by being near vaccinated people have gained significant traction on social media in recent weeks.

This is physically impossible.

Up until today reports of side-effects were being shouted down as anti-vaxxer conspiracies, is no one willing to have an open-mind on this?"
no one has ever said side effects were a conspiracy... but you can not get side effects from standing close to someone who has had the vaccine

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Taken from the BBC article this is about.

.......

Vaccine misinformation

Meanwhile, the notion of vaccines affecting periods has been picked up by people spreading misinformation on social media.

False claims that women's cycles or even pregnancies could be affected just by being near vaccinated people have gained significant traction on social media in recent weeks.

This is physically impossible.

Yesterday I had a few messages from cum covered cock pic profiles. Today I'm pregnant. How will I know which one is the father?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"no one has ever said side effects were a conspiracy... but you can not get side effects from standing close to someone who has had the vaccine "

You should probably take a look through Pfizer vaccine trail documents.

There's a Pfizer document called

"A PHASE 1/2/3, PLACEBO-CONTROLLED, RANDOMIZED, OBSERVER-BLIND,

DOSE-FINDING STUDY TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY, TOLERABILITY,

IMMUNOGENICITY, AND EFFICACY OF SARS-COV-2 RNA VACCINE

CANDIDATES AGAINST COVID-19 IN HEALTHY Individuals"

Here's an couple of extracts for you

“An occupational exposure occurs when a person receives unplanned direct contact with a vaccine test subject, which may or may not lead to the occurrence of an adverse event,”

“These people may include health care providers, family members, and other people who are around the trial participant.”

Pfizer are well aware shedding is real.

Anyone who doubts it should take a look at what happened with one of the Polio vaccines and Shedding. Plenty of confirmed science out there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Taken from the BBC article this is about.

.......

Vaccine misinformation

Meanwhile, the notion of vaccines affecting periods has been picked up by people spreading misinformation on social media.

False claims that women's cycles or even pregnancies could be affected just by being near vaccinated people have gained significant traction on social media in recent weeks.

This is physically impossible.

Yesterday I had a few messages from cum covered cock pic profiles. Today I'm pregnant. How will I know which one is the father?

Don’t mock the cock

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By *1ueWoman over a year ago

Nottingham

Definitely worrying if you're male

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"no one has ever said side effects were a conspiracy... but you can not get side effects from standing close to someone who has had the vaccine

You should probably take a look through Pfizer vaccine trail documents.

There's a Pfizer document called

"A PHASE 1/2/3, PLACEBO-CONTROLLED, RANDOMIZED, OBSERVER-BLIND,

DOSE-FINDING STUDY TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY, TOLERABILITY,

IMMUNOGENICITY, AND EFFICACY OF SARS-COV-2 RNA VACCINE

CANDIDATES AGAINST COVID-19 IN HEALTHY Individuals"

Here's an couple of extracts for you

“An occupational exposure occurs when a person receives unplanned direct contact with a vaccine test subject, which may or may not lead to the occurrence of an adverse event,”

“These people may include health care providers, family members, and other people who are around the trial participant.”

Pfizer are well aware shedding is real.

Anyone who doubts it should take a look at what happened with one of the Polio vaccines and Shedding. Plenty of confirmed science out there "

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed.."

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Definitely worrying if you're male

Yes because men can't show empathy or an awareness of the bigger picture, I wouldn't dispute that this is absolutely more concerning for the women affected though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation"

Might not be a dead parrot but definitely feels akin to flogging a dead horse at this point. Each to their own (I've said that a lot recently)

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation"

No it can't be shed, no more than a person undergoing cancer treatments can shed their medications to others..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation"

What does shedding part of a virus do? If it's true, why is it bad?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How on earth would people that have been in close proximity to people that have had the vaccine be affected

This does sound very unsound..

i’m not saying its not something to be investigated , but given just how much hormonal birth control messes with our periods and we get told give it 6-12 months and see if it settles before we try something else

this “cause for concern” which totally jumps that gun seems to be otherwise motivated than any genuine concern for women with altered periods

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation

What does shedding part of a virus do? If it's true, why is it bad?"

Well in the case of the Polio vaccine that went wrong it caused those vaccinated to actually spread Polio.

This doesn't seem to be the case with the Covid vaccine.

However Women living with those vaccinated are reporting changes to periods.

It may turn out that the shedding is harmless, but the media labeling anyone who talks about it as conspiracy theorist will only stunt the study of the subject.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation

What does shedding part of a virus do? If it's true, why is it bad?

Well in the case of the Polio vaccine that went wrong it caused those vaccinated to actually spread Polio.

This doesn't seem to be the case with the Covid vaccine.

However Women living with those vaccinated are reporting changes to periods.

It may turn out that the shedding is harmless, but the media labeling anyone who talks about it as conspiracy theorist will only stunt the study of the subject.

Polio vaccines involve the whole virus. So that wasn't my question.

What is the potential problem with shedding *part* of a virus, and what biological plausibility does it have?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation

What does shedding part of a virus do? If it's true, why is it bad?

Well in the case of the Polio vaccine that went wrong it caused those vaccinated to actually spread Polio.

This doesn't seem to be the case with the Covid vaccine.

However Women living with those vaccinated are reporting changes to periods.

It may turn out that the shedding is harmless, but the media labeling anyone who talks about it as conspiracy theorist will only stunt the study of the subject.

womens cycles have been synchronising up when they live together for wayyyyyy longer than covid was a thing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation

No it can't be shed, no more than a person undergoing cancer treatments can shed their medications to others..

Oh wow you really need to do some reading on both those subjects.

It's very funny you mentioned cancer treatment as it shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subjects.

Go research "Internal Radiation Treatment"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

womens cycles have been synchronising up when they live together for wayyyyyy longer than covid was a thing "

The issue isn't syncing. It's painful cramping, multiple periods in a month or periods which continue for weeks.

Also random blood clots

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation

No it can't be shed, no more than a person undergoing cancer treatments can shed their medications to others..

Oh wow you really need to do some reading on both those subjects.

It's very funny you mentioned cancer treatment as it shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subjects.

Go research "Internal Radiation Treatment"

No Ty, am just a lay person but I'll take the word of a person who teaches chemistry over that of another lay person all day long ..

Btw I said medication not radiation..

Are they the same, in application etc?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

womens cycles have been synchronising up when they live together for wayyyyyy longer than covid was a thing

The issue isn't syncing. It's painful cramping, multiple periods in a month or periods which continue for weeks.

Also random blood clots"

well you chopped my comment to take it out of context which was in response to people who live together experiencing changes to their periods

also are you going to mansplain blood clots in periods to me now? because those are also very common and normal

anyone else notice how its all men that are suddenly so concerned for our period welfare ?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

womens cycles have been synchronising up when they live together for wayyyyyy longer than covid was a thing

The issue isn't syncing. It's painful cramping, multiple periods in a month or periods which continue for weeks.

Also random blood clots

well you chopped my comment to take it out of context which was in response to people who live together experiencing changes to their periods

also are you going to mansplain blood clots in periods to me now? because those are also very common and normal

anyone else notice how its all men that are suddenly so concerned for our period welfare ?"

Yeah. It's not like people cared before

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By *ddmanMan over a year ago

Norwich

It's the suggestion that, in the few days that the mRNA is being transcribed to produce the spike protein by your body, your body will "shed" (sweat / breathe / etc) that protein into the environment.

I can imagine of you believe

A) this is a thing; it is thus far unproven as far as I'm aware

B) this is a thing with effect; the particle can't replicate, would have to get into vulnerable cells, most likely lung or sinus tissue exposing an ACE2 receptor and would thus be present *orders of magnitude less* than in inside a vaccinated person.

Then you might *worry* about being involuntarily inoculated and thus vulnerable to the various theorised effects seen germinating in various echo-chambers if the internet.

One way to avoid this woukd be to...

Wear a mask?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It's the suggestion that, in the few days that the mRNA is being transcribed to produce the spike protein by your body, your body will "shed" (sweat / breathe / etc) that protein into the environment.

I can imagine of you believe

A) this is a thing; it is thus far unproven as far as I'm aware

Then you might *worry* about being involuntarily inoculated and thus vulnerable to the various theorised effects seen germinating in various echo-chambers if the internet.

One way to avoid this woukd be to...

Wear a mask?"

Yup. Wear a mask, protect yourself. Or stay home while the effect takes place.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation

No it can't be shed, no more than a person undergoing cancer treatments can shed their medications to others..

Oh wow you really need to do some reading on both those subjects.

It's very funny you mentioned cancer treatment as it shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subjects.

Go research "Internal Radiation Treatment"

So radiation can be spread, which makes sense as it'll be ionising radiation in order to kill cells.

But medication for cancer, such as Arsenic trioxide doesn't kill cancer in other people does it?

You can't compare mRNA with radiation as it's wildly different.

So, why do you think mRNA can be shed and if it is, what could it do? Consider that one of the main problems is that mRNA degrades in literal minutes outside of a controlled environment.

Mr KC

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I haven't had period in 10months had my hormones checked there ok apparently its pcos

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Wear a mask?

Yup. Wear a mask, protect yourself. Or stay home while the effect takes place."

All of which I do as much as I can except for going out to work, I've served mu local community throughout this whole period (no pun intended). You know what they say about assumptions? Also can't speak for all men but I do and always have concerned myself with my partners wellbeing and the wellbeing of others in general.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Wear a mask?

Yup. Wear a mask, protect yourself. Or stay home while the effect takes place.

If you think there'll be a short contagious term effect following a vaccine or medical intervention, protect yourself and others.

I'm still waiting to hear how any of this is biologically plausible

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By *heCelticMythMan over a year ago

dublin

BBC website says that unvaccinated women are not experiencing heavy periods from been in close proximity of vaccinations people. So yes that is BS.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

womens cycles have been synchronising up when they live together for wayyyyyy longer than covid was a thing

The issue isn't syncing. It's painful cramping, multiple periods in a month or periods which continue for weeks.

Also random blood clots"

Blood clots are standard in a menstrual period. Pretty much all women pass clots in their menstrual flow.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"BBC website says that unvaccinated women are not experiencing heavy periods from been in close proximity of vaccinations people. So yes that is BS."

BBC website only recently admitted this side-effect, watch some late night TV and look out for the ads offering people compensation for things that at the time were deemed safe.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

There is absolutely zero biological mechanism by which the spike protein transcribed from mRNA OR the mRNA can be transmitted from a vaccinated person to another person. Zero biological mechanisms.

My qualifications for stating that are that I have a microbiology degree and have taught foundation degree biology for a long time with 5 years as department head.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"There is absolutely zero biological mechanism by which the spike protein transcribed from mRNA OR the mRNA can be transmitted from a vaccinated person to another person. Zero biological mechanisms.

My qualifications for stating that are that I have a microbiology degree and have taught foundation degree biology for a long time with 5 years as department head."

Thank you, someone who states a fact and doesn't condescend is a much appreciated voice in all of this, I was just asking a question and feel I've spent the day being attacked here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'm a grown man, not really bothered by what people have to say or think of me, those things are out of my control anyway, it's just very interesting to find that a great deal of people on this website aren't at all liberal or open-minded, lots of egos here!

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

There's absolutely no evidence it affects fertility. "

Has there been much of a study yet? Most women of child bearing age have not really been vaccinated yet so how much do they know to be able to say there is no link

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm a grown man, not really bothered by what people have to say or think of me, those things are out of my control anyway, it's just very interesting to find that a great deal of people on this website aren't at all liberal or open-minded, lots of egos here!"

Being challenged on an open forum us something that goes with the territory, with respect no one has attacked you on here..

And making a gross misrepresentation on the sites members based upon the tiny number that use the forums is possibly not the best method imo..

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By *anae21Woman over a year ago

Nearer than you think

"All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

There's absolutely no evidence it affects fertility.

Has there been much of a study yet? Most women of child bearing age have not really been vaccinated yet so how much do they know to be able to say there is no link"

Evidence of younger women who've been vaccinated in America would suggest there is no effect on fertility.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

most of the people who have posted have been learning stuff from kinky couples posts for ever a year now

it has nothing to do with egos or being close minded or wanting to personally attack you , its about not just accepting vague unverified information that goes against all the scientific knowledge people have gained during the pandemic

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

Ok I have read and re read the suggestion and am still non the wiser, are they saying if you are standing next to a woman who is vaccinated that you will get a heavy period? If so I hope not as I haven't had any at all for 8 years and I will be right hacked off if they start again !

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

There's absolutely no evidence it affects fertility.

Has there been much of a study yet? Most women of child bearing age have not really been vaccinated yet so how much do they know to be able to say there is no link

Evidence of younger women who've been vaccinated in America would suggest there is no effect on fertility. "

Were there many in the study do you know?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

What does membership on a sexual site have to do with understanding of science or asking for evidence?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ok I have read and re read the suggestion and am still non the wiser, are they saying if you are standing next to a woman who is vaccinated that you will get a heavy period? If so I hope not as I haven't had any at all for 8 years and I will be right hacked off if they start again !"

that is what is being widely spread on social media but with no scientific basis

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

that is what is being widely spread on social media but with no scientific basis "

The suggestion isn't to my knowledge that merely standing next to someone would be sufficient and common sense wouldn't have suggested that either, obviously pro-longed exposure is what was meant but then the people shooting down such claims are often only out to ridicule rather than question or investigate anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I've personally read numerous accounts of women who's partners, work colleagues, friends or family have been immunised sometimes without their knowledge although they themselves haven't and then them also experiencing changes in their menstruation, someone has pointed out that the spike protein the vaccine programs RNA to produce cannot be shed so it remains an unsolved mystery but one along with the now BBC documented rise in cases of women experiencing heavier or in the case of a few returning periods that deserves attention and investigation.

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"I've personally read numerous accounts of women who's partners, work colleagues, friends or family have been immunised sometimes without their knowledge although they themselves haven't and then them also experiencing changes in their menstruation, someone has pointed out that the spike protein the vaccine programs RNA to produce cannot be shed so it remains an unsolved mystery but one along with the now BBC documented rise in cases of women experiencing heavier or in the case of a few returning periods that deserves attention and investigation."
where has all this come from?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

that is what is being widely spread on social media but with no scientific basis

If you only wanted your own content on the forum and for everyone to agree with what you write then I am not sure you get what forums are.

Lets stop attacking people for joining in the debate, even if they disagree with you

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

Wow this explains why all my neighbors are repeatedly hanging out their underwear on the washing line

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Without their knowledge and that's an awful lot of close contacts given the current 2m ruling in workplaces etc..?

Where have you read this please, any links?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"If you only wanted your own content on the forum and for everyone to agree with what you write then I am not sure you get what forums are.

Lets stop attacking people for joining in the debate, even if they disagree with you"

Are you suggesting I'm attacking people and not being open to other points of view?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Without their knowledge and that's an awful lot of close contacts given the current 2m ruling in workplaces etc..?

Where have you read this please, any links?"

I.e. one member of a couple had the jab and didn't tell the other and I know from pereonal experience that 2m is the ideal but not always possible in all work environments, I've read replies on Twitter and Instagram post replies.

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By *ringles0510Woman over a year ago

Central Borders

Think it's time to ease off on the conspiracy theories. I am curious though, how do heavy periods affect you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Without their knowledge and that's an awful lot of close contacts given the current 2m ruling in workplaces etc..?

Where have you read this please, any links?

the biggest question this raises for me is who is getting their vaccine and keeping it secret from their partner

and do they need someone to talk to?

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By *ockdownerMan over a year ago

Preston

"Anyone experiencing side-effects? I've also been hearing of people who haven't had the jab but have been in close proximity to others who have experiencing heavy periods, it's all very concerning!

BS alert....

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Without their knowledge and that's an awful lot of close contacts given the current 2m ruling in workplaces etc..?

Where have you read this please, any links?

Personally speaking I find it bizarre that a person wouldn't tell a partner this, however one person..

What gave you had replies to, are you asking on other platforms about this ?

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By *luttyLaylaWoman over a year ago

North West

"Without their knowledge and that's an awful lot of close contacts given the current 2m ruling in workplaces etc..?

Where have you read this please, any links?

Personally speaking I find it bizarre that a person wouldn't tell a partner this, however one person..

What gave you had replies to, are you asking on other platforms about this ?"

Also find it bizarre, however no one has a right to know another’s medical history.

I’m going to guess this is an absolute minuscule amount xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Without their knowledge and that's an awful lot of close contacts given the current 2m ruling in workplaces etc..?

Where have you read this please, any links?

Personally speaking I find it bizarre that a person wouldn't tell a partner this, however one person..

What gave you had replies to, are you asking on other platforms about this ?

Also find it bizarre, however no one has a right to know another’s medical history.

I’m going to guess this is an absolute minuscule amount xx"

not entitled sure but it seems a weird relationship to be in to hide something like that

what did he tell his mrs ... off down the pub with my mates so he can pass any side effects off as a hangover

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

It's a dead parrot..

It's not live virus used in Pfizer, J&J, biotech or Moderna therefore it can't be shed..

It's a piece of mRNA telling your body to produce a spike protein which can be shed.

Hence why they had to look into occupational exposure caused by contact with the test subject.

Feel free to read Pfizer own documentation

What does shedding part of a virus do? If it's true, why is it bad?

Well in the case of the Polio vaccine that went wrong it caused those vaccinated to actually spread Polio.

This doesn't seem to be the case with the Covid vaccine.

However Women living with those vaccinated are reporting changes to periods.

It may turn out that the shedding is harmless, but the media labeling anyone who talks about it as conspiracy theorist will only stunt the study of the subject.

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this is not true... it's already been made very clear that you can not become affected by someone who has has the virus. What your stating as fact is actually just misinformation being spread...

Again taken from the source this is about

This is physically impossible.

Most Covid-19 vaccines work by giving the body instructions to make a tiny fragment of the virus's distinctive spike so it can learn how to fight it off. The spike protein, which cannot reproduce, then disintegrates or is destroyed.

The mRNA - the instruction to make the spike protein - is also extremely fragile. That's why those vaccines are so hard to store and transport, because the genetic information falls apart and becomes useless very easily.

None of the vaccines allow any part of the virus to replicate, let alone shed - the only thing replicating are your immune cells which produce antibodies to fight off viruses.

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By *ildb3rryWoman over a year ago

Ratoath

I used to be in boarding school and we all used to get our periods at the same time ... Is this kinda the same thing?

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By *ddmanMan over a year ago

Norwich

“An occupational exposure occurs when a person receives unplanned direct contact with a vaccine test subject, which may or may not lead to the occurrence of an adverse event,”

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Anyone who doubts it should take a look at what happened with one of the Polio vaccines and Shedding. Plenty of confirmed science out there "

The keywords being "may or may not" - that document is protocol for carrying out the study. It does not contain results , it's the rules for operating the safety study. They're specifying that they're going to check all interactions for potential exposure events, just in case; it's not an admission of anything other than caution.

Polio vaccine, at one point used attenuated (crippled but not "dead") virions; potentially capable of some replication, but no credible threat to a normal immune system.

mRNA technology doesn't provide a replication mechanism to spread the mRNA, and neither can the spike protien replicate inside a new host, should it somehow find itself there.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"If you only wanted your own content on the forum and for everyone to agree with what you write then I am not sure you get what forums are.

Lets stop attacking people for joining in the debate, even if they disagree with you

Are you suggesting I'm attacking people and not being open to other points of view?

Yes

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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Don't discuss other peoples profiles please.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"Without their knowledge and that's an awful lot of close contacts given the current 2m ruling in workplaces etc..?

Where have you read this please, any links?

To be fair this doesn't seem much to go on. I know from experience that you can get heavy periods out of the blue at any time and then they go back to how they normally are the month after. If women did get them after a person they knew but didn't stand too close to had had the jab then it will probably be a coincidence

It does seem far fetched to me but after this year, who knows anymore

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Iv had the implant for just over 3 years and only had 2 periods in that time.

1 week after I received the Phizer jab I had one.

Is it because of the jab?

Possible but more likely I would have had one anyway as its due to be changed, have I had one since no.

Its caused me no issues so even if it was caused by the vaccine I'm really not bothered.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hi - there is currently quite an investigation into this, and yes this is thing and quite a large number of groups of women all report this.

People who have had the vaccine could be what called shedding, we can’t see or it smell think of it like pheromones. We know they are a thing. We all know women living in a commune find synchronisation on their monthly cycle, a well known fact yet little is know how or why this truly happens, so if the vaccine causes a change in body conditions, which one would hope it does or no point taking it, just maybe there is a deeper change that’s yet to be understood, I mean I don’t think one person on here can say that it’s absolutely not happening. we know is there is a large growing number of women reporting it who have never had issue before, and we know the vaccine has taken less than a year... just something to consider.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hi - there is currently quite an investigation into this, and yes this is thing and quite a large number of groups of women all report this.

I think it is exceptionally unlikely that me standing near an unvaccinated women would cause her to have a period!

Yes its true woman who regularly spend a lot of time together can sync, most of the girls in my class at school did but how is it even possible to shed vaccine?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To add after reading a few more replies, whilst the vaccine cannot should not replicate it may create a reaction in the body, it’s that reaction and change in a persons chemical make up that could give off to other people, it could be messing with a mechanism that a woman’s body is attuned to. It may be harmless it may not be, but it needs to concluded either way.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok maybe not shed vaccine, but the a product of the bodes reaction to vaccine causing and eventual reaction in women, some women I’m sure are more in tune than others is suspect.

“Yes its true woman who regularly spend a lot of time together can sync, - so what is the mechanism that causes this ?

most of the girls in my class at school did but how is it even possible to shed vaccine?” We are made of chemical and electric. It’s finely tuned, it can easily be unbalanced. Any drug placed in the body can unbalance the ecosystem of your body...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Don't discuss other peoples profiles please. "

I'm quite confused, I havent discussed anyone's profile and have only replied to people who directly quoted me.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Hi - there is currently quite an investigation into this, and yes this is thing and quite a large number of groups of women all report this.

Who is investigating it? What is the biological mechanism by which this would be possible?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Hi - there is currently quite an investigation into this, and yes this is thing and quite a large number of groups of women all report this.

There's no investigation into the possibility of shedding the vaccine, as others more qualified on this thread and global scientific experts in the field have said it can't happen..

The issues with menstruation etc are being looked into and rightly so to see if this is a side effect..

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"Don't discuss other peoples profiles please.

I'm quite confused, I havent discussed anyone's profile and have only replied to people who directly quoted me."

I didn't say you did

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For starters the bbc are onto it, but groups are pushing for investigations, now it’s in public domaine is has to be investigated as an adverse effect by law I believe.

The body has many biological mechanisms - an example, look at diabetes and what effects it has on many parts of the body, it’s one of world leading causes of illness and very few know they have pre diabetic symptoms.

As for which this could be... that is what needs to be investigated. Maybe it doesn’t effect women who had their wheatabix for breakfast who knows, only it’s a real complaint and that there has been a huge increase of these adverse effects by non vaccinated women - period

Who is investigating it? What is the biological mechanism by which this would be possible?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"For starters the bbc are onto it, but groups are pushing for investigations, now it’s in public domaine is has to be investigated as an adverse effect by law I believe.

Who is investigating it? What is the biological mechanism by which this would be possible?

The BBC article being mentioned here says it's biologically impossible.

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By *iss SinWoman over a year ago

portchester

The more I read the more I’m glad I’ve not taken the jab yet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The more I read the more I’m glad I’ve not taken the jab yet "

You are the one at risk then according to some as its unvaccinated women who are apparently at risk of this from us vaccinated people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Pfizer, biotech, Johnson and Johnson and Moderna do not use live virus in their vaccines so a person can't she'd them post jab..

This is the latest theory from some intent on disinformation who have by and large been shown to be wrong as the pandemic has/ is progressing..

We're in unchartered water and only time will tell."

I think it's most likely a side effect to Covid circulation amongst us rather than a side effect of a vaccine. To say you can catch this in close proximity to someone who has been vaccinated appears fanciful at best and more likely to be the work of the antivax mob.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Pfizer, biotech, Johnson and Johnson and Moderna do not use live virus in their vaccines so a person can't she'd them post jab..

This is the latest theory from some intent on disinformation who have by and large been shown to be wrong as the pandemic has/ is progressing..

We're in unchartered water and only time will tell.

It seems to stem from a none anti vaxxer head teacher of a school in the states. The BBC reported this 2 weeks ago and it appears to have stemmed from that.

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By *lowstick66Man over a year ago

"I used to be in boarding school and we all used to get our periods at the same time ... Is this kinda the same thing? "
i was hoping someone would pick up on this, ladies/college students periods will fall into line with the dominant female when sharing dorms.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Pfizer, biotech, Johnson and Johnson and Moderna do not use live virus in their vaccines so a person can't she'd them post jab..

This is the latest theory from some intent on disinformation who have by and large been shown to be wrong as the pandemic has/ is progressing..

We're in unchartered water and only time will tell.

It seems to stem from a none anti vaxxer head teacher of a school in the states. The BBC reported this 2 weeks ago and it appears to have stemmed from that. "
*known

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

There's absolutely no evidence it affects fertility.

Has there been much of a study yet? Most women of child bearing age have not really been vaccinated yet so how much do they know to be able to say there is no link"

Real world data from over 90,000 pregnant women in the USA has provided the evidence to include pregnant women in the vaccine programme.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2021/04/c1259-jcvi-announcement-regarding-covid-19-vaccination-during-pregnancy-and-next-steps.pdf

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hi - there is currently quite an investigation into this, and yes this is thing and quite a large number of groups of women all report this.

There's no investigation into the possibility of shedding the vaccine, as others more qualified on this thread and global scientific experts in the field have said it can't happen..

The issues with menstruation etc are being looked into and rightly so to see if this is a side effect.."

side effect of having the vaccination sure

but a side effect of being around vaccinated people? surely they are not wasting money investigating that

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Pfizer, biotech, Johnson and Johnson and Moderna do not use live virus in their vaccines so a person can't she'd them post jab..

This is the latest theory from some intent on disinformation who have by and large been shown to be wrong as the pandemic has/ is progressing..

We're in unchartered water and only time will tell.

Surely, thinking biological plausibility, if shed spike protein were a risk, then those with Covid would be a much higher risk to others? As the replication of the spike protein happens via known mechanisms and all

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Hi - there is currently quite an investigation into this, and yes this is thing and quite a large number of groups of women all report this.

There's no investigation into the possibility of shedding the vaccine, as others more qualified on this thread and global scientific experts in the field have said it can't happen..

The issues with menstruation etc are being looked into and rightly so to see if this is a side effect..

side effect of having the vaccination sure

but a side effect of being around vaccinated people? surely they are not wasting money investigating that "

Doubt it..

Which will only serve to fire up some who think it's another piece of the puzzle..

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

There's absolutely no evidence it affects fertility.

Has there been much of a study yet? Most women of child bearing age have not really been vaccinated yet so how much do they know to be able to say there is no link

Real world data from over 90,000 pregnant women in the USA has provided the evidence to include pregnant women in the vaccine programme.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2021/04/c1259-jcvi-announcement-regarding-covid-19-vaccination-during-pregnancy-and-next-steps.pdf

Isn't that for women who are already pregnant rather than possible fertility problems in women ?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

1) There's no biological mechanism by which anything is shed by vaccinated people. Not mRNA, not spike protein, not SARS-CoV-2. Nowt.

2) Women's menstrual cycles can and do vary in length, heaviness of flow etc. This is most often idiopathic (i.e reason unknown). I've pretty much never had a regular period in my entire life, for example.

3) Blood clots are normal in the menstrual flow. They are nothing to do with vaccines.

4) Some minor, temporary menstrual changes have occurred in other vaccines (HPV, for example). The BBC article I shared earlier explains this.

5) Data from over 90,000 pregnant women observed in the USA have demonstrated that the vaccines are safe.

6) Yes, some women appear to fall into a common pattern of menstrual cycles with other women in their household. However, studies have shown this happens no more frequently than if it were simply down to chance alone. It has absolutely nothing to do with vaccines or other medication. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37256161

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

"All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

There's absolutely no evidence it affects fertility. "

I said if.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"All jokes aside, if it affects fertility it should be properly investigated.

There's absolutely no evidence it affects fertility.

Has there been much of a study yet? Most women of child bearing age have not really been vaccinated yet so how much do they know to be able to say there is no link

Real world data from over 90,000 pregnant women in the USA has provided the evidence to include pregnant women in the vaccine programme.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2021/04/c1259-jcvi-announcement-regarding-covid-19-vaccination-during-pregnancy-and-next-steps.pdf

Isn't that for women who are already pregnant rather than possible fertility problems in women ?"

Yes, because actual pregnancy has the theoretical chance to be impacted by a medical intervention.

The deputy chief medical officer for England, Jonathan Van-Tam, when answering questions from BBC viewers, said: "I have never heard of a vaccine that affects fertility." There is no biological mechanism by which the vaccines can impact fertility. Vaccination is recommended by the professional bodies representing fertility specialists. I can't link, but the title of the article is "The Association of Reproductive and Clinical Scientists (ARCS) and British Fertility Society (BFS) U.K. update to COVID-19 guidance."

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By *entGent75Man over a year ago

Dartford

"How on earth would people that have been in close proximity to people that have had the vaccine be affected

This does sound very unsound..

A reputable news source lol....pull the other one.

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By *inkySeeKinkyDoWoman over a year ago

'tween PontyCarlo & CasVegas in West Yorks

Is this the same as catching the ghey when you inadvertently touch pork swords with the bloke whos shagging your missus in a club? Asking for a friend...

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

At some point Nov Dec 2019 Jan Feb ...2020...some wise sages were saying... Pfft.... Its only a virus similar to flu, doesn't seem that we need to worry about it.. or take any actions or interventions to restrict its movement or transmission, or prepare for a tiny outbreak, let's let people move around as much as they want, no need to take any action yet... Ooopsie....if only we had...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I had my second pfzier shot today. It made me have a fever and feel very groggy. Had to call in as a result. Arm is still aching as well. Though my immune system has been shite since I had an operation on my plums

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Had both my vaccinations and feel amazing

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I had my second pfzier shot today. It made me have a fever and feel very groggy. Had to call in as a result. Arm is still aching as well. Though my immune system has been shite since I had an operation on my plums

I had my second Pfizer-BioNTech yesterday. Achy arm, slight headache but able to go to work and the gym.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I had the Oxford AZ vaccine in May. My April period was missed but a for a bit of spotting and my May period has started a week late. Usually regular as clockwork. I think it’s definitely affected me. Hoping no impact on fertility.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I had the Oxford AZ vaccine in May. My April period was missed but a for a bit of spotting and my May period has started a week late. Usually regular as clockwork. I think it’s definitely affected me. Hoping no impact on fertility. "

If you had the vaccine in May, how could your April period be affected? Appreciate there might be a typo!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you had the vaccine in May, how could your April period be affected? Appreciate there might be a typo!"

Ah yes. I meant March.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

If you had the vaccine in May, how could your April period be affected? Appreciate there might be a typo!

Ah yes. I meant March. "

Makes more sense! There's a known short term potential effect of vaccines in general on the menstrual cycle, but not on fertility itself.

This article explains more:

BBC News - Covid vaccine: Period changes could be a short-term side effect

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56901353

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

Yep, it's terrible, I don't even have a uterus anymore but the vaccine got me pregnant!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you had the vaccine in May, how could your April period be affected? Appreciate there might be a typo!

Ah yes. I meant March.

Makes more sense! There's a known short term potential effect of vaccines in general on the menstrual cycle, but not on fertility itself.

This article explains more:

BBC News - Covid vaccine: Period changes could be a short-term side effect

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56901353"

Yeah I’ve been reading the stuff that’s come out and I’m too worried. I did get a bit excited when my period missed thinking I was pregnant, but alas no.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

If you had the vaccine in May, how could your April period be affected? Appreciate there might be a typo!

Ah yes. I meant March.

Makes more sense! There's a known short term potential effect of vaccines in general on the menstrual cycle, but not on fertility itself.

This article explains more:

BBC News - Covid vaccine: Period changes could be a short-term side effect

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56901353

Yeah I’ve been reading the stuff that’s come out and I’m too worried. I did get a bit excited when my period missed thinking I was pregnant, but alas no. "

I remember what it was like when we were trying 5 years ago. My periods have never been regular and I was convinced a couple of times, but just long cycles. We gave up and started to investigate our fertility and then I fell pregnant. What I'm trying to say is this sort of thing is pretty normal in the "trying to conceive" experience, I think. Best wishes to you

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By *dd269Man over a year ago

Clee

Tinfoil hats everyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is this the same as catching the ghey when you inadvertently touch pork swords with the bloke whos shagging your missus in a club? Asking for a friend..."

Yes. Yes it is.

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