surely they just need to put in mass testing for a short while like they did in Liverpool last year and seemed to work , act quickly to contain the problem and then eventually liverpool have reaped the benefits by getting all the trial gigs

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By *elnkazCouple over a year ago

cheshire

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority."

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By *elnkazCouple over a year ago

cheshire

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority."

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

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By *orty-coupleCouple over a year ago

Leyland

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By *orty-coupleCouple over a year ago

Leyland

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority."

I think you mean Majority

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k"

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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An area not far from us has overtaken Bolton now , however I don't know if people have refused to have vaccinations or to be tested

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

I think you mean Majority "

No I don’t.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

I think you mean Majority "

Last census Bolton was 92% white must have been a big big change.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?"

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too"

Not yet... But seek and ye shall find. I've only just seen the BBC story and BBC aren't always the most accurate of sources...

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By *elnkazCouple over a year ago

cheshire

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?"

Personally no...but i dont just read the forums for info. I read the news on bbc and sky

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By *elnkazCouple over a year ago

cheshire

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too

Not yet... But seek and ye shall find. I've only just seen the BBC story and BBC aren't always the most accurate of sources... "
thank you for putting that up.. nice to know im not only 1 that sees it

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too"

But it is one of those "no shit sherlock" moments isn't it..? . Indian variant found in Indian community having just returned from India...which is in the middle of a huge outbreak of Indian variant covid cases. Hmmm hindsight a wonderful thing but surely could have been avoided if we just stopped all travel from India for a while when it was first identified.... 6 weeks ago

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too

Well to be fair, that isn't what I was questioning. I was questioning the comment of

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests"

Where the virus was brought in is different to the statement above.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

The director of public health for the Bolton area is quoted in this local news article, saying there are a combination of factors leading to the spike in the Rumworth and Lever Edge areas

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/19294178.health-bosses-give-update-coronavirus-crisis-bolton/

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too

Not yet... But seek and ye shall find. I've only just seen the BBC story and BBC aren't always the most accurate of sources... thank you for putting that up.. nice to know im not only 1 that sees it "

That wasn't what you said though

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

Personally no...but i dont just read the forums for info. I read the news on bbc and sky "

Most people get their info elsewhere, which site and I can go see what they are saying?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

We struggle each time we know we have a problem and sit around for ages, as it's just other people's lives, or something and someone isn't bothered enough.

There are clear links between lower income levels, piorer housing, health quality, employment insecurity and other issues, connected to the pandemic. The Queen didn't mention much of this in her speech yesterday.

The variant of concern from India has been present in the UK for quite some time.

Its numbers are doubling every week, week after week. We don't know mum about its real world affect on immunity, from jab or prior infection.

We should be concerned, as this is a potential bigger problem for us. Delaying action will cost dearly. But some people don't want to lose out on pubs next week etc.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

The variant of concern from India has been present in the UK for quite some time.

Its numbers are doubling every week, week after week. We don't know mum about its real world affect on immunity, from jab or prior infection.

We should be concerned, as this is a potential bigger problem for us. Delaying action will cost dearly. But some people don't want to lose out on pubs next week etc. "

Yes, it is popping up in lots of areas just as we are opening up

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

Personally no...but i dont just read the forums for info. I read the news on bbc and sky

Most people get their info elsewhere, which site and I can go see what they are saying?"

Well in fairness there have been govt and local NHS working parties set up for months to encourage particular ethnic minorities to take the vaccine as uptake levels were lower. If you Google bame vaccine hesitancy it will thrown up a few of those articles from a month ago...

Not sure if that answers your question though.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

Personally no...but i dont just read the forums for info. I read the news on bbc and sky

Most people get their info elsewhere, which site and I can go see what they are saying?

Not sure if that answers your question though. "

Not really no. It was a specific question to a post that claimed this was the reason for Bolton.

I am aware some people and communities have been reluctant to have the vaccine

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The variant of concern from India has been present in the UK for quite some time.

Its numbers are doubling every week, week after week. We don't know mum about its real world affect on immunity, from jab or prior infection.

We should be concerned, as this is a potential bigger problem for us. Delaying action will cost dearly. But some people don't want to lose out on pubs next week etc.

Yes, it is popping up in lots of areas just as we are opening up"

It's a tough 1 Rugby. If we delay targeted action at the areas with increasing numbers of people with the variant, we risk having a problem that gets ever harder to manage. If we delay reopening society back up, we hit the economy and public opinion again. Part of the problem is that the genetic testing for variants adds an extra delay, before we get to know the reality of local situations - we're already put into a position of trying to play catchup.

If I was in charge, I'd apologise for messing up plans but would delay the next stage, whilst doing major local testing in the hotspots, to gauge the reality ASAP. It would keep England on an equal footing, without local variation.

We can only be powerful if we understand where we're at and decide what we need to do about it, in my opinion.

I'm guessing that things will not change much publicly and we'll reopen more next week. I'm not sure we've been strong at learning from our experience and that kicking stuff out into the future, possibly to deal with it then, remains more attractive still.

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By *ringles0510Woman over a year ago

Central Borders

New cases were always going to go up with schools and hospitality open again. Now we'll have to keep our fingers crossed that with the vaccine rollout hospitals won't get swamped with covid cases again x

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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The variant of concern from India has been present in the UK for quite some time.

Its numbers are doubling every week, week after week. We don't know mum about its real world affect on immunity, from jab or prior infection.

We should be concerned, as this is a potential bigger problem for us. Delaying action will cost dearly. But some people don't want to lose out on pubs next week etc.

Yes, it is popping up in lots of areas just as we are opening up

We can only be powerful if we understand where we're at and decide what we need to do about it, in my opinion.

You make sense.

I think it was reported that they knew about this last week so I was surprised the opening up was still going ahead Looking at the numbers and how it has rapidly spread, it is worrying.

I think I would have rather they delayed it if there is a chance we open up and then have to go back in again as that will be worse for me.

What a nightmare.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

The variant of concern from India has been present in the UK for quite some time.

Its numbers are doubling every week, week after week. We don't know mum about its real world affect on immunity, from jab or prior infection.

We should be concerned, as this is a potential bigger problem for us. Delaying action will cost dearly. But some people don't want to lose out on pubs next week etc.

Yes, it is popping up in lots of areas just as we are opening up

We can only be powerful if we understand where we're at and decide what we need to do about it, in my opinion.

You make sense.

I think it was reported that they knew about this last week so I was surprised the opening up was still going ahead Looking at the numbers and how it has rapidly spread, it is worrying.

I think I would have rather they delayed it if there is a chance we open up and then have to go back in again as that will be worse for me.

What a nightmare."

Bolton businesses are very worried about being closed again. We've never been out of restrictions, we didn't "unlock" in July at the same time and had high level restrictions for the whole time outside of national lockdowns. Businesses cannot cope. But we can't have unfettered spread either.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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I think there were a couple of other areas who have had the same, we all think it was bad for us all but it must be worse for the areas who didn't even make it out of lockdown . These business's might never survive this

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By *ady LickWoman over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

They're doing surge testing I read. Let's hope they can get on top of it.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Only Bolton and Leicester had special legislation drafted for them, as far as I recall..... Basically, we've been in a lockdown, additional local restrictions (similar to lockdown) or tier 3 since March 2020...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm guessing we all have a view's on this.Its fairly obvious from day 1,that certain areas and communities in the country, were reluctant to adhere to Government guidelines on lockdown.

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

What I don’t get is how are people traveling to India are going in the first place.

As far as I was aware no holiday travel was allowed so I assuming all these covid cases that have been imported due to people going abroad for work and family purposes. Maybe I am being a bit blunt here but with covid rife across the world why would you want to travel.

I guess it is people thinking oh I am ok Jack attitude

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I run one of the mass vaccination centres in the NW, we have a great take up of the vaccinations from all the community.

Stay safe x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm guessing we all have a view's on this.Its fairly obvious from day 1,that certain areas and communities in the country, were reluctant to adhere to Government guidelines on lockdown. "

Middle aged white men and women shagging strangers on a sex site in lockdown.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I'm guessing we all have a view's on this.Its fairly obvious from day 1,that certain areas and communities in the country, were reluctant to adhere to Government guidelines on lockdown.

Middle aged white men and women shagging strangers on a sex site in lockdown. "

Is there a problem with a covid outbreak in middle aged white men? I haven't seen it reported anywhere.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally with having an 80 y old mother,and being her sole career,except Christmas, I've had 4 days holiday in a year n five months.

1...I haven't been shagging on a swingers site

2...yes I do stick by my original post

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests "

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group."

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

I think you mean Majority

Last census Bolton was 92% white must have been a big big change."

Where are you getting that figure from?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

I think you mean Majority

Last census Bolton was 92% white must have been a big big change.

Where are you getting that figure from? "

An equality report from Bolton council (that I cannot link to) in 2018 states that 83% of Bolton residents describe themselves as white British or another white background. 7.8% of the population had Indian backgrounds whilst 4.3% had Pakistani backgrounds.

This is as up to date as I can find without this year's Census data being available. Bolton was very different 10 years ago in many, many ways.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

For some reason Blackburn is springing to mind too but I could be getting my places beginning with B mixed up

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

For some reason Blackburn is springing to mind too but I could be getting my places beginning with B mixed up"

Blackburn didn't have specific legislation written for it, as far as I can see (did a search on gov.uk). They made use of provisions already existing within the Coronavirus Act and tried ward by ward restrictions, but apparently no-one knows what electoral ward they live in and I think they abandoned it when Tier 3 came in across Lancashire.

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By *elnkazCouple over a year ago

cheshire

Read the info from the bmj on why numbers are higher in certain areas of the uk

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

This Indian variant is suspected of being more transmissible than the Kent variant, giving rise to the large increases of it. Without people living in difficult situations, of housing problems, income inequality etc, this is cause for concern, just as we are about to open things up. You may have escaped infection last time but the same level of contact with people now could be enough to let you gain infection.

Younger people who aren't vaccinated, could be the typical unlucky people who could manage to get infected, whilst out in greater proximity to more people from Monday.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

As well as targeted testing, targeted vaccination below the age groups nationally being currently done should take place in areas where outbreaks of this variant are prevalent..

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too

Absolutely this!

You gotta wonder why the delay in bringing in quarantine for flights from India. Surely it couldn't have anything to do with billionaire/millionaire Indian business owners wanting to quickly escape India and get into UK? I mean I am sure it has nothing to do with Rishi Sunak’s billionaire father-in-law! Apparently he is changing his name to Imal Ritjack.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

They, the government have been too slow in reacting throughout this pandemic..

Poor management at one of the most basic functions they are responsible for..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They, the government have been too slow in reacting throughout this pandemic..

Poor management at one of the most basic functions they are responsible for.."

and yet other threads have people shouting down folk as being ridiculous and bed wetters for wondering if an increase in cases just now means the govt should reconsider the june date for lifting all restrictions and be cautious instead

the problem is in a democracy where you need to get re-elected, its a constant plate spinning exercise of trying to keep enough voters happy that you get re-elected

not that i am advocating for removal of democracy or anything , but in situations like this where its a bit like your mum grounding you for the weekend for your own good , its hard for them to do things that they know wont be the popular choice because the system is designed for exactly the popular choice to win

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This Indian variant is suspected of being more transmissible than the Kent variant, giving rise to the large increases of it. Without people living in difficult situations, of housing problems, income inequality etc, this is cause for concern, just as we are about to open things up. You may have escaped infection last time but the same level of contact with people now could be enough to let you gain infection.

Younger people who aren't vaccinated, could be the typical unlucky people who could manage to get infected, whilst out in greater proximity to more people from Monday. "

i was reading an article yesterday that confirmed the age group up to 25 were seeing higher than others level of infections at the moment , it was caveated though that that age group have higher level of testing due testing for education etc

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

This stat really sums up why people are fed up with people taking the piss. So you telling me all these people had essential travel to India. Tbh recently I saw 4 people being interviewed on the news, and all 4 had gone to India for a funeral. Why are people travelling at the moment. We all would like to see family abroad but it is a complete joke

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too

Absolutely this!

Quarantine has been required for months for all international arrivals.

The people are spreading it.

The government should just completely lock down the country for 6 months. Only the emergency services and hospitals working. The army can drop off bags of food in tins once a week.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"They, the government have been too slow in reacting throughout this pandemic..

Poor management at one of the most basic functions they are responsible for..

the problem is in a democracy where you need to get re-elected, its a constant plate spinning exercise of trying to keep enough voters happy that you get re-elected

Following the Queen’s Speech and BJ stating the Tories are "Renewing democracy"

- Requiring ID to tackle voter fraud that doesn't exist

- Limiting peaceful protest

- Weakening ability of lawyers to take gov to court

- Reverting mayoral & PCC elections to FPTP

So basically Removing our right to protest at the ballot box on the streets & in the courts!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They, the government have been too slow in reacting throughout this pandemic..

Poor management at one of the most basic functions they are responsible for..

the problem is in a democracy where you need to get re-elected, its a constant plate spinning exercise of trying to keep enough voters happy that you get re-elected

Would go with 'we' have allowed such to be the case, we want shorter waiting times for hospitals, we want faster and more efficient transport etc etc but we don't seem to want to accept that such things cost..

So we fall for the nonsense that is a low taxation party..

On the point of people coming back from India, it was being widely reported some were coming via Turkey and other places to avoid isolation given the red status and whilst it's not easy it's surely not beyond a Government to instruct special attention and to quarantine at the tax payers expense if that's why some were taking that route..

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Oh right I didn’t realise that Bolton was the only town with a large ethnic minority.

You asked the question..you obvs wanted an answer.k

You gave the answer so convincingly...do you have evidence to back your answer?

From the BBC analysis...

This spike is related to international travel, particularly with people returning to Bolton from India.

The cases are now in the community and it seems to be located around the south and south-west parts of the town.

Interestingly, the cases are very much stacked in those under the age of 25.

There were 721 cases reported yesterday in those aged five to 25.

Part of this is because all the school children are testing twice a week, but it is very much present in that younger age group.

Anything about people refusing vaccines and not having regular tests?

Funnily enough the spread in the area near to us is from a college of younger people too

Absolutely this!

Quarantine has been required for months for all international arrivals.

The people are spreading it.

The government should just completely lock down the country for 6 months. Only the emergency services and hospitals working. The army can drop off bags of food in tins once a week. "

I wonder how many have actually quarantined that is the issue. If it was an amber country they probably went home and done what they usual do. It does raise big questions

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By *luttyLaylaWoman over a year ago

North West

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They, the government have been too slow in reacting throughout this pandemic..

Poor management at one of the most basic functions they are responsible for..

the problem is in a democracy where you need to get re-elected, its a constant plate spinning exercise of trying to keep enough voters happy that you get re-elected

Following the Queen’s Speech and BJ stating the Tories are "Renewing democracy"

- Requiring ID to tackle voter fraud that doesn't exist

- Limiting peaceful protest

- Weakening ability of lawyers to take gov to court

- Reverting mayoral & PCC elections to FPTP

So basically Removing our right to protest at the ballot box on the streets & in the courts!"

And by and large the press are stone cold silent..

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X"

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"As well as targeted testing, targeted vaccination below the age groups nationally being currently done should take place in areas where outbreaks of this variant are prevalent.."

Not in Bolton - Govt declined targeted vaccination.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off "

Surely the people not isolating bear the responsibility... At some point people have to take responsibility for their actions. Or.... Shut the fucking borders to India....and any connections from there..... To say this was predicted doesn't give anyone any pleasure but if they can't be trusted then stoo the travel completely.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off

But Rishi’s Daddy in law needed to escape from India first!

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By *luttyLaylaWoman over a year ago

North West

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off

Your always going to have people that don’t stick to it or care about any responsibility.

IMO travel from everywhere should have been banned EXCEPT in extreme or extenuating circumstances.

But we all know that lol! Pointless convo now x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off

It's the fault of the people not doing the quarantine. It's not Boris's job to stand outside their door and make sure they don't go out.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"They, the government have been too slow in reacting throughout this pandemic..

Poor management at one of the most basic functions they are responsible for.."

Or timing doesn't work for them. They seem to have sat on this until the local elections were over

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They, the government have been too slow in reacting throughout this pandemic..

Poor management at one of the most basic functions they are responsible for..

Or timing doesn't work for them. They seem to have sat on this until the local elections were over"

Possibly yes..

Could see why they might..

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off

But Rishi’s Daddy in law needed to escape from India first!"

Even if that were the case that doesn't excuse the 1000s a day that were allowed to arrive for 4 to 6 weeks after the outbreak had started. It doesn't excuse that the borders weren't sealed and it sure as shit doesn't excuse those arriving and not isolating or quarantining. And now look where we are heading... Again.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off

But Rishi’s Daddy in law needed to escape from India first!

Absolutely agree. As soon as India started going tits up ALL travel to and from should have been banned.

It wasn’t!

Ask why?

1. Boris’ trade deal promo tour to India that then got cancelled with a week before rules changed.

2. Those rules took a week to come into effect because... wealthy Indians needed time to sort their affairs and get out of India... wealthy Indians = Tory party donors (or familial connections).

Basically another example of how inept, corrupt and morally bankrupt this current UK Govt is!

We will all pay for this if the Indian variant takes hold in UK

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They, the government have been too slow in reacting throughout this pandemic..

Poor management at one of the most basic functions they are responsible for..

the problem is in a democracy where you need to get re-elected, its a constant plate spinning exercise of trying to keep enough voters happy that you get re-elected

So we fall for the nonsense that is a low taxation party..

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off

But Rishi’s Daddy in law needed to escape from India first!

Absolutely agree. As soon as India started going tits up ALL travel to and from should have been banned.

It wasn’t!

Ask why?

1. Boris’ trade deal promo tour to India that then got cancelled with a week before rules changed.

2. Those rules took a week to come into effect because... wealthy Indians needed time to sort their affairs and get out of India... wealthy Indians = Tory party donors (or familial connections).

Basically another example of how inept, corrupt and morally bankrupt this current UK Govt is!

We will all pay for this if the Indian variant takes hold in UK

I don't dispute that as I don't know and I suspect you don't either. But what is available to all of us. Regardless of policy.. Is personal responsibility. So if its the rich tory party donors returning, not isolating to spread Indian variant covid in Bolton and Blackburn then yes let's call it out. But let's also call out the individuals responsibility to test and isolate properly. And if they aren't testing or isolating or vaxxing... Let's call that too. And for gods sake let's learn and not keep making the same mistakes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Cases of the India variant in England had increased from 202 to 520 as of May 7, PHE said, with almost half related to travel or contact with a traveller

I believe people should be allowed to travel for extreme circumstances. Funerals being one.

It’s how the UK have handled people coming back that’s the problem IMO! X

People should have been made to quarantine in a government location for 10 days lol. Clearly what happened was that people went home and fooked the quarantine off

But Rishi’s Daddy in law needed to escape from India first!

Absolutely agree. As soon as India started going tits up ALL travel to and from should have been banned.

It wasn’t!

Ask why?

1. Boris’ trade deal promo tour to India that then got cancelled with a week before rules changed.

2. Those rules took a week to come into effect because... wealthy Indians needed time to sort their affairs and get out of India... wealthy Indians = Tory party donors (or familial connections).

Basically another example of how inept, corrupt and morally bankrupt this current UK Govt is!

We will all pay for this if the Indian variant takes hold in UK

The type of people who won't bother doing 10 days quarantine after travel, or won't get vaccinated, or won't isolate if contacted by Track and Trace etc... they won't ever change.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group."

The demographic is quite clear and the areas that the "spike" is happening I ..... just saying

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group.

The demographic is quite clear and the areas that the "spike" is happening I ..... just saying

your prejudice is showing ... just saying

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group.

The demographic is quite clear and the areas that the "spike" is happening I ..... just saying

your prejudice is showing ... just saying

Are the facts prejudiced? Or are they just facts? The outbreak is in an area and as quoted by Andy Burnham due initially to overseas travel.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group.

The demographic is quite clear and the areas that the "spike" is happening I ..... just saying

your prejudice is showing ... just saying

Are the facts prejudiced? Or are they just facts? The outbreak is in an area and as quoted by Andy Burnham due initially to overseas travel. "

it was the tone i was referring to tbh

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group.

The demographic is quite clear and the areas that the "spike" is happening I ..... just saying

your prejudice is showing ... just saying

Are the facts prejudiced? Or are they just facts? The outbreak is in an area and as quoted by Andy Burnham due initially to overseas travel.

To be fair , the one I saw he said it could be which as it wasn't against any rules at the time then we shouldn't really blame people for it... but he believes it also could be that people can't afford to stay off work so spread it that way.

I find blaming certain people only causes division, wherever it came from originally , it is spreading as fast as the Kent variant and is worrying as we are about to open up more.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group.

The demographic is quite clear and the areas that the "spike" is happening I ..... just saying

It seems Bolton is predominantly white, so is Erewash and Sefton and they have a problem in those areas too

Covid spreads fast, whatever colour you are. However if it is spreading in people who live in multi generation families ( which I think is what you are getting at ), what do you think they should do? All move to separate houses until the covid is gone?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You really have to ask that question ????.k . A lot of the ethnic minority are refusing the vaccine due to religious beliefs

And they not having reg tests

Exactly this. How long until the penny drops with them??.

So it's only members of the Asian community testing positive then. I haven't seen that break down in the news. Just by age group.

The demographic is quite clear and the areas that the "spike" is happening I ..... just saying

It seems Bolton is predominantly white, so is Erewash and Sefton and they have a problem in those areas too

I half think would be useful if they had more detailed data that they could release to show where it's spreading. If a large family lives in the same house it's likely they will all get infected.

The figures then show a 'tenfold' increase in infections but if they all isolate, perhaps that household would only be viewed as 1 infection. If that makes sense. And therefore only increasing the risk factor by 1 instead of 10.

Then the other half of me thinks no... bad idea... because then some people will think they aren't at risk because they don't live in that area/ situation.

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