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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Check out the radio interview that Julia Hartley Brewer had with the the MP Liz Truss, especially the fact that only ONE person died of schmovid recently in a day, yet 67 MILLION people are STILL living with restrictions.
It makes less and less sense every day |
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You're right.
As we learn more and more about variants, about immune escape, and about the long term effects of Covid, it makes less and less sense to complain about the restrictions which will likely save many lives. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am a member of numerous forums and I have to say the general feeling of fear and happiness to be restricted is much higher on here than other sites.
Very, very odd. |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"Check out the radio interview that Julia Hartley Brewer had with the the MP Liz Truss, especially the fact that only ONE person died of schmovid recently in a day, yet 67 MILLION people are STILL living with restrictions.
It makes less and less sense every day"
Yes, the restrictions and other measures are exactly why only 1 person died from covid on that day. Also, I'm sure that was the date the death was reported, not the date of death. |
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By *ewfie02Couple
over a year ago
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"Check out the radio interview that Julia Hartley Brewer had with the the MP Liz Truss, especially the fact that only ONE person died of schmovid recently in a day, yet 67 MILLION people are STILL living with restrictions.
It makes less and less sense every day"
Did they ever make sense? |
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"I am a member of numerous forums and I have to say the general feeling of fear and happiness to be restricted is much higher on here than other sites.
Very, very odd."
you are right so many enjoying there long hard fought for rights being taken away |
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It's correct that the cautious approach based on steps and subsequent results is paying off. It would be madness to throw lives at losing such control and caution. Variants are a huge risk and the concept that doing it this way, to prevent future restrictions, is wise, based on the stupid rush last year and total lack of control that contrasts with now. Each step carries more risk. We still have millions to vaccinate who deserve care, instead of somebody who is desperate and has no impulse control, like an immature child, not bothering about others who are less fortunate than they are. |
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"It's correct that the cautious approach based on steps and subsequent results is paying off. It would be madness to throw lives at losing such control and caution. Variants are a huge risk and the concept that doing it this way, to prevent future restrictions, is wise, based on the stupid rush last year and total lack of control that contrasts with now. Each step carries more risk. We still have millions to vaccinate who deserve care, instead of somebody who is desperate and has no impulse control, like an immature child, not bothering about others who are less fortunate than they are. "
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"It's correct that the cautious approach based on steps and subsequent results is paying off. It would be madness to throw lives at losing such control and caution. Variants are a huge risk and the concept that doing it this way, to prevent future restrictions, is wise, based on the stupid rush last year and total lack of control that contrasts with now. Each step carries more risk. We still have millions to vaccinate who deserve care, instead of somebody who is desperate and has no impulse control, like an immature child, not bothering about others who are less fortunate than they are. "
This ..
There's a very real sense of my eggs are cooked so I'll piss on the fire amongst some.. |
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"It's correct that the cautious approach based on steps and subsequent results is paying off. It would be madness to throw lives at losing such control and caution. Variants are a huge risk and the concept that doing it this way, to prevent future restrictions, is wise, based on the stupid rush last year and total lack of control that contrasts with now. Each step carries more risk. We still have millions to vaccinate who deserve care, instead of somebody who is desperate and has no impulse control, like an immature child, not bothering about others who are less fortunate than they are. "
Yup |
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"I saw the subject heading and worried for a minute that this was in 'Stories and Fantasies'. "
It's like a choice between abstinence and the after coitus conversation will be interesting..
Na, fuck that the greenhouse is more appealing.. |
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Brewer and Truss are two of the most unpleasant, ignorant and bigoted people in this country. Truss is only in government because she makes those around her seem like members of Mensa by comparison. Brewer has made a career out of treating minorities like shit.
If I was looking for a pair to talk on the radio with intelligence and compassion about the pandemic and our progress in fighting against it, these two would be close to the top of my list of those to avoid at all costs. |
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I honestly don't understand why people are still complaining about restrictions.
They all whinged and complained right from the start demonstrated and protested, yet here we are a good way into the vaccination program, cases falling all the time deaths getting less and less daily and despite the evidence clearly showing the plan is working and just over a month before the June 21st lifting of all restrictions.
Still they complain.
Why?
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"I honestly don't understand why people are still complaining about restrictions.
They all whinged and complained right from the start demonstrated and protested, yet here we are a good way into the vaccination program, cases falling all the time deaths getting less and less daily and despite the evidence clearly showing the plan is working and just over a month before the June 21st lifting of all restrictions.
Still they complain.
Why?
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I think they think it's fun to paint themselves as victims. |
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"I honestly don't understand why people are still complaining about restrictions.
They all whinged and complained right from the start demonstrated and protested, yet here we are a good way into the vaccination program, cases falling all the time deaths getting less and less daily and despite the evidence clearly showing the plan is working and just over a month before the June 21st lifting of all restrictions.
Still they complain.
Why?
I think they think it's fun to paint themselves as victims."
Definitely |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"I honestly don't understand why people are still complaining about restrictions.
They all whinged and complained right from the start demonstrated and protested, yet here we are a good way into the vaccination program, cases falling all the time deaths getting less and less daily and despite the evidence clearly showing the plan is working and just over a month before the June 21st lifting of all restrictions.
Still they complain.
Why?
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Because they are fucking morons, to put it bluntly. God forbid should their precious rights be taken away.
You know when you see a toddler about to grab a knife or stick their finger into an electrical outlet, you stop them and they have the mother of all strops? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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India lifted its restrictions well early, well what little restrictions they had or just totally ignored them and they are doing really well now aren’t they.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I honestly don't understand why people are still complaining about restrictions.
They all whinged and complained right from the start demonstrated and protested, yet here we are a good way into the vaccination program, cases falling all the time deaths getting less and less daily and despite the evidence clearly showing the plan is working and just over a month before the June 21st lifting of all restrictions.
Still they complain.
Why?
Because they are fucking morons, to put it bluntly. God forbid should their precious rights be taken away.
You know when you see a toddler about to grab a knife or stick their finger into an electrical outlet, you stop them and they have the mother of all strops? "
Rights are precious
Millions of people have died for the rights we have
Easily given away but hard to get back
Whats the quote? "Those who give up freedom for security, deserve neither" |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"I honestly don't understand why people are still complaining about restrictions.
They all whinged and complained right from the start demonstrated and protested, yet here we are a good way into the vaccination program, cases falling all the time deaths getting less and less daily and despite the evidence clearly showing the plan is working and just over a month before the June 21st lifting of all restrictions.
Still they complain.
Why?
Because they are fucking morons, to put it bluntly. God forbid should their precious rights be taken away.
You know when you see a toddler about to grab a knife or stick their finger into an electrical outlet, you stop them and they have the mother of all strops?
Rights are precious
Millions of people have died for the rights we have
Easily given away but hard to get back
Whats the quote? "Those who give up freedom for security, deserve neither""
“....... Easily given away but hard to get back......”
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What makes you think our rights are hard to get back ?
Are we not been given more and more freedom as restrictions are being eased every five weeks ?? |
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"Take this whichever way you want, but the UK death rate has been one of the highest in the World. Seems to have been forgotten in the rush to praise the government in getting the vaccines out. "
The gmnt dont seem to keen on focusing on that rather inconvenient fact, for some reason. |
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"Brewer and Truss are two of the most unpleasant, ignorant and bigoted people in this country. Truss is only in government because she makes those around her seem like members of Mensa by comparison. Brewer has made a career out of treating minorities like shit.
If I was looking for a pair to talk on the radio with intelligence and compassion about the pandemic and our progress in fighting against it, these two would be close to the top of my list of those to avoid at all costs."
Applauds. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Brewer and Truss are two of the most unpleasant, ignorant and bigoted people in this country. Truss is only in government because she makes those around her seem like members of Mensa by comparison. Brewer has made a career out of treating minorities like shit.
If I was looking for a pair to talk on the radio with intelligence and compassion about the pandemic and our progress in fighting against it, these two would be close to the top of my list of those to avoid at all costs."
Liz Truss is very good at her job an exellent member of the government |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Brewer and Truss are two of the most unpleasant, ignorant and bigoted people in this country. Truss is only in government because she makes those around her seem like members of Mensa by comparison. Brewer has made a career out of treating minorities like shit.
If I was looking for a pair to talk on the radio with intelligence and compassion about the pandemic and our progress in fighting against it, these two would be close to the top of my list of those to avoid at all costs.Liz Truss is very good at her job an exellent member of the government"
She certainly sorted out the cheese imports. Wallace and Grommet are big fans. |
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"I am a member of numerous forums and I have to say the general feeling of fear and happiness to be restricted is much higher on here than other sites.
Very, very odd. you are right so many enjoying there long hard fought for rights being taken away "
Spot on |
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This is such an emotive subject but most people refuse through ignorance/naivety/poor media choices to see the actual truth.
Is the reason for low infections due to vaccine roll out? No, if such a large % of the population have already had C19 then they have natures vaccine already, does that mean vulnerable people shouldn’t be vaccinated? Of course they should be, I mean we all want to keep everybody alive for as long as humanly possible.
Would this government lie, misdirect and use the mainstream media to scare the gen pop with standard scare tactics to make themselves seem like the heroes and saviours?! Yes, absolutely. An example of this would be Grant Shapps - today he said “we have seen more positive C19 diagnosis than ever in this last x days” well yes, that MIGHT be true but why? Well India, which has a quarter of the planets population currently has zero control over the pandemic and you are clearly counting world figures rather than UK figures.
People need to learn to have a critical mind and stop licking the arseholes of a Tory government that has - refused to feed children from poor families whilst not at school, voted largely against same sex marriage, tried to fuck over the countries 3rd biggest city because its a Labour city, and could go on but nobody wants critical thinking, everybody wants to follow Tories and get screwed over again and again |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is such an emotive subject but most people refuse through ignorance/naivety/poor media choices to see the actual truth.
Is the reason for low infections due to vaccine roll out? No, if such a large % of the population have already had C19 then they have natures vaccine already, does that mean vulnerable people shouldn’t be vaccinated? Of course they should be, I mean we all want to keep everybody alive for as long as humanly possible.
Would this government lie, misdirect and use the mainstream media to scare the gen pop with standard scare tactics to make themselves seem like the heroes and saviours?! Yes, absolutely. An example of this would be Grant Shapps - today he said “we have seen more positive C19 diagnosis than ever in this last x days” well yes, that MIGHT be true but why? Well India, which has a quarter of the planets population currently has zero control over the pandemic and you are clearly counting world figures rather than UK figures.
People need to learn to have a critical mind and stop licking the arseholes of a Tory government that has - refused to feed children from poor families whilst not at school, voted largely against same sex marriage, tried to fuck over the countries 3rd biggest city because its a Labour city, and could go on but nobody wants critical thinking, everybody wants to follow Tories and get screwed over again and again"
I'm not a fan of this Tory government though opposition to same sex marriage is a plus. One thing (only thing) they got right was securing advance supply of vaccines and being ahead of the curve. I think to deny that Covid is a serious health problem is mad mad mad and various countries death rates confirm this and only by lockdown measures has this prevented more deaths. To deny this is delusional. |
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I’m not denying that the evidence points to C19 having a SIGNIFICANT impact on those with pre-existing conditions. I am denying that there is any science to support restricting the movement of healthy children and adults, causing unknown mental health issues now and in the future.
And as you oppose same sex marriage my view is that your opinion is definitely ignorant. God forbid people live happy lives they want. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!"
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great |
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great "
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then. "
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament. "
And another thing in this fucked up world. A world where kids are growing up and a BOY does not know if he's a BOY and a GIRL does not know if she's a GIRL, plus give them a piece of meat on their plate and they start crying, what the fuck, give me traditional values any day |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Take this whichever way you want, but the UK death rate has been one of the highest in the World. Seems to have been forgotten in the rush to praise the government in getting the vaccines out. "
if you look at the all the death toll in the uk this year and compare it to last years death toll and the year befores death toll there is literaly no difference a few thousand
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I don't come on this side of the forum often because it makes me so annoyed and quite sad actually. And this thread is exactly why. It shows how some people's views get so skewed when they have to think about others. My own fault because it's too early and I'm wide awake. 
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am a member of numerous forums and I have to say the general feeling of fear and happiness to be restricted is much higher on here than other sites.
Very, very odd. you are right so many enjoying there long hard fought for rights being taken away "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament. "
I'll let my husband know. |
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"Take this whichever way you want, but the UK death rate has been one of the highest in the World. Seems to have been forgotten in the rush to praise the government in getting the vaccines out. if you look at the all the death toll in the uk this year and compare it to last years death toll and the year befores death toll there is literaly no difference a few thousand "
Factually incorrect.. |
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"Brewer and Truss are two of the most unpleasant, ignorant and bigoted people in this country. Truss is only in government because she makes those around her seem like members of Mensa by comparison. Brewer has made a career out of treating minorities like shit.
If I was looking for a pair to talk on the radio with intelligence and compassion about the pandemic and our progress in fighting against it, these two would be close to the top of my list of those to avoid at all costs.Liz Truss is very good at her job an exellent member of the government"
...and you are excellent (sic) at spelling!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Check out the radio interview that Julia Hartley Brewer had with the the MP Liz Truss, especially the fact that only ONE person died of schmovid recently in a day, yet 67 MILLION people are STILL living with restrictions.
It makes less and less sense every day"
I can’t imagine a worse pair of human beings together - awful women.
Some people don’t seem to understand that the virus doesn’t go away . We don’t want it to grow exponentially and have another lockdown again. Have patience.
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By *oneybeesCouple
over a year ago
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Quite happily listen to Julia HB, not s problem with what she has to say. Let's just hope June 21st works cos we can only imagine if it doesn't there will be total anarchy out there and quite rightly so, us being one of them |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Check out the radio interview that Julia Hartley Brewer had with the the MP Liz Truss, especially the fact that only ONE person died of schmovid recently in a day, yet 67 MILLION people are STILL living with restrictions.
It makes less and less sense every day"
Yes, and we got to those very positive stats because of lockdown, not as some magical unrelated lucky break.
The times we tried to race ahead, move too slow etc were the times that things got out of control and people died. Better to go slow and steady and get this right rather than hokey-ying in and out of lockdowns to meet the whims of the day.
Too many mouths like Hartley-Brewer and Fox have found a way to monetise playing reactionary clowns irrespective of the real-world cost of strangers dying elsewhere. |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"Check out the radio interview that Julia Hartley Brewer had with the the MP Liz Truss, especially the fact that only ONE person died of schmovid recently in a day, yet 67 MILLION people are STILL living with restrictions.
It makes less and less sense every day
Yes, and we got to those very positive stats because of lockdown, not as some magical unrelated lucky break.
The times we tried to race ahead, move too slow etc were the times that things got out of control and people died. Better to go slow and steady and get this right rather than hokey-ying in and out of lockdowns to meet the whims of the day.
Too many mouths like Hartley-Brewer and Fox have found a way to monetise playing reactionary clowns irrespective of the real-world cost of strangers dying elsewhere. "
Maybe Lockdown , maybe the vaccine , maybe the Weather..who knows all three my guess. Deaths are right down too.
How does this end if ever? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Check out the radio interview that Julia Hartley Brewer had with the the MP Liz Truss, especially the fact that only ONE person died of schmovid recently in a day, yet 67 MILLION people are STILL living with restrictions.
It makes less and less sense every day
Yes, and we got to those very positive stats because of lockdown, not as some magical unrelated lucky break.
The times we tried to race ahead, move too slow etc were the times that things got out of control and people died. Better to go slow and steady and get this right rather than hokey-ying in and out of lockdowns to meet the whims of the day.
Too many mouths like Hartley-Brewer and Fox have found a way to monetise playing reactionary clowns irrespective of the real-world cost of strangers dying elsewhere.
Maybe Lockdown , maybe the vaccine , maybe the Weather..who knows all three my guess. Deaths are right down too.
How does this end if ever? "
It doesn’t fully end because we now have a cycle of a new virus to manage annually. But it diminishes with full national vaccination. And diminishes further once we’ve supported the rest of the planet to be vaccinated too.
Alongside that we need to remain vigilant for variants and the remarkable ability of viruses to evolve to survive and thrive.
We need to think about everyone and no just ourselves, moderate our behaviours and always keep the big picture.
Too easy to say things are fine today so I want normality back, and that’s where con artists jump in and make money out of contrarianism without responsibility. |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"Check out the radio interview that Julia Hartley Brewer had with the the MP Liz Truss, especially the fact that only ONE person died of schmovid recently in a day, yet 67 MILLION people are STILL living with restrictions.
It makes less and less sense every day
Yes, and we got to those very positive stats because of lockdown, not as some magical unrelated lucky break.
The times we tried to race ahead, move too slow etc were the times that things got out of control and people died. Better to go slow and steady and get this right rather than hokey-ying in and out of lockdowns to meet the whims of the day.
Too many mouths like Hartley-Brewer and Fox have found a way to monetise playing reactionary clowns irrespective of the real-world cost of strangers dying elsewhere.
Maybe Lockdown , maybe the vaccine , maybe the Weather..who knows all three my guess. Deaths are right down too.
How does this end if ever?
It doesn’t fully end because we now have a cycle of a new virus to manage annually. But it diminishes with full national vaccination. And diminishes further once we’ve supported the rest of the planet to be vaccinated too.
Alongside that we need to remain vigilant for variants and the remarkable ability of viruses to evolve to survive and thrive.
We need to think about everyone and no just ourselves, moderate our behaviours and always keep the big picture.
Too easy to say things are fine today so I want normality back, and that’s where con artists jump in and make money out of contrarianism without responsibility. "
Well i think things are as fine as they can be in the UK right now. The world is another matter. Covid will be around for years now so your argument is for long lasting restrictions. Thats a valid argument. But there are people who don't agree. I think travelling abroad is a bad idea for the next year Or two, but its happening . |
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament. "
It’s absolutely not open minded to consider a marriage lesser because it doesn’t happen in a church or is between a same sex couple.
Quite odd to see such clearly religious views being held by a member on a swinging site. |
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"Take this whichever way you want, but the UK death rate has been one of the highest in the World. Seems to have been forgotten in the rush to praise the government in getting the vaccines out. if you look at the all the death toll in the uk this year and compare it to last years death toll and the year befores death toll there is literaly no difference a few thousand "
A few thousand?
Almost 80,000 higher than the previous 5 year average in England and Wales. That’s not a “few thousand” in anyone’s book. |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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Clearly you can't have low death rates without lockdowns, many countries have now proved it, Germany to the extreme is one of them. Australia must be bricking it - they will have open up to the rest of the somewhen. |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
" Clearly you can't have low death rates without lockdowns, many countries have now proved it, Germany to the extreme is one of them. Australia must be bricking it - they will have open up to the rest of the somewhen. "
A lockdown only delays .. the vaccine does the rest. |
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament.
It’s absolutely not open minded to consider a marriage lesser because it doesn’t happen in a church or is between a same sex couple.
Quite odd to see such clearly religious views being held by a member on a swinging site."
I would not call these religious views. Some of us are active Christians, and hold no truck at all with discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, race, disability, age (legal and moral limits applying in this particular case) or other characteristics.
Let's call these sort of views out for what they are, bigoted. It is perfectly possible to be religious without being bigoted, and in fact I would suggest that anybody holding these type of outmoded opinions cannot be truly genuinely whole heartedly Christian. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament.
It’s absolutely not open minded to consider a marriage lesser because it doesn’t happen in a church or is between a same sex couple.
Quite odd to see such clearly religious views being held by a member on a swinging site.
I would not call these religious views. Some of us are active Christians, and hold no truck at all with discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, race, disability, age (legal and moral limits applying in this particular case) or other characteristics.
Let's call these sort of views out for what they are, bigoted. It is perfectly possible to be religious without being bigoted, and in fact I would suggest that anybody holding these type of outmoded opinions cannot be truly genuinely whole heartedly Christian."
Same sex marriage in the real sense should not be tolerated. Perfectly fine for same sex unions to be legally protected and have the same rights as a rightful married couple. But keep 'Marriage' solely between Man and Woman. Though I know it is kind of hard to distinguish between this fucked up world where a boy grows up not sure if their actually a boy nor a girl hasn't a fucking clue if she's a girl |
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament.
It’s absolutely not open minded to consider a marriage lesser because it doesn’t happen in a church or is between a same sex couple.
Quite odd to see such clearly religious views being held by a member on a swinging site.
I would not call these religious views. Some of us are active Christians, and hold no truck at all with discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, race, disability, age (legal and moral limits applying in this particular case) or other characteristics.
Let's call these sort of views out for what they are, bigoted. It is perfectly possible to be religious without being bigoted, and in fact I would suggest that anybody holding these type of outmoded opinions cannot be truly genuinely whole heartedly Christian.
Same sex marriage in the real sense should not be tolerated. Perfectly fine for same sex unions to be legally protected and have the same rights as a rightful married couple. But keep 'Marriage' solely between Man and Woman. Though I know it is kind of hard to distinguish between this fucked up world where a boy grows up not sure if their actually a boy nor a girl hasn't a fucking clue if she's a girl"
Oh good grief. Several points here - if you get married in a church, but don't sign the legal paperwork then YOU AREN'T MARRIED. Marriage is a legal institution not a religious one. Tell me, do you believe in the biblical definition of marriage? Do you support the idea that a rapist must marry his victim and pay her father as compensation? |
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament.
It’s absolutely not open minded to consider a marriage lesser because it doesn’t happen in a church or is between a same sex couple.
Quite odd to see such clearly religious views being held by a member on a swinging site.
I would not call these religious views. Some of us are active Christians, and hold no truck at all with discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, race, disability, age (legal and moral limits applying in this particular case) or other characteristics.
Let's call these sort of views out for what they are, bigoted. It is perfectly possible to be religious without being bigoted, and in fact I would suggest that anybody holding these type of outmoded opinions cannot be truly genuinely whole heartedly Christian.
Same sex marriage in the real sense should not be tolerated. Perfectly fine for same sex unions to be legally protected and have the same rights as a rightful married couple. But keep 'Marriage' solely between Man and Woman. Though I know it is kind of hard to distinguish between this fucked up world where a boy grows up not sure if their actually a boy nor a girl hasn't a fucking clue if she's a girl"
My husband and myself have discussed this and decided we disagree with you.
Apparently we were legally married so it seems you’re talking bollocks. |
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament.
It’s absolutely not open minded to consider a marriage lesser because it doesn’t happen in a church or is between a same sex couple.
Quite odd to see such clearly religious views being held by a member on a swinging site.
I would not call these religious views. Some of us are active Christians, and hold no truck at all with discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, race, disability, age (legal and moral limits applying in this particular case) or other characteristics.
Let's call these sort of views out for what they are, bigoted. It is perfectly possible to be religious without being bigoted, and in fact I would suggest that anybody holding these type of outmoded opinions cannot be truly genuinely whole heartedly Christian.
Same sex marriage in the real sense should not be tolerated. Perfectly fine for same sex unions to be legally protected and have the same rights as a rightful married couple. But keep 'Marriage' solely between Man and Woman. Though I know it is kind of hard to distinguish between this fucked up world where a boy grows up not sure if their actually a boy nor a girl hasn't a fucking clue if she's a girl
Oh good grief. Several points here - if you get married in a church, but don't sign the legal paperwork then YOU AREN'T MARRIED. Marriage is a legal institution not a religious one. Tell me, do you believe in the biblical definition of marriage? Do you support the idea that a rapist must marry his victim and pay her father as compensation? "
You're delusional at best mate |
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"Men are men, women are women. Full stop .. not hard to comprehend,. For some at least. Marriage Man Woman ..easy"
I hate to piss on your chips but your opinion is as irrelevant as you. |
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If people are scared and want to hide away I don't mind, but it's their willingness and glee to want to see others have their freedoms stripped
They say it's noble, they're just protecting the vulnerable, but I guarantee they didn't give a fuck about spreading the flu (which also kill's the vulnerable) pre 2020. They're only scared now as they think they're head could be on the block
Cowardice disguised as compassion |
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament.
It’s absolutely not open minded to consider a marriage lesser because it doesn’t happen in a church or is between a same sex couple.
Quite odd to see such clearly religious views being held by a member on a swinging site.
I would not call these religious views. Some of us are active Christians, and hold no truck at all with discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, race, disability, age (legal and moral limits applying in this particular case) or other characteristics.
Let's call these sort of views out for what they are, bigoted. It is perfectly possible to be religious without being bigoted, and in fact I would suggest that anybody holding these type of outmoded opinions cannot be truly genuinely whole heartedly Christian.
Same sex marriage in the real sense should not be tolerated. Perfectly fine for same sex unions to be legally protected and have the same rights as a rightful married couple. But keep 'Marriage' solely between Man and Woman. Though I know it is kind of hard to distinguish between this fucked up world where a boy grows up not sure if their actually a boy nor a girl hasn't a fucking clue if she's a girl"
Does your religion approve of swinging?
The only thing that’s hard to distinguish of why the fuck people still have outdated, bigoted views like yours. |
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"If people are scared and want to hide away I don't mind, but it's their willingness and glee to want to see others have their freedoms stripped
They say it's noble, they're just protecting the vulnerable, but I guarantee they didn't give a fuck about spreading the flu (which also kill's the vulnerable) pre 2020. They're only scared now as they think they're head could be on the block
Cowardice disguised as compassion"
With respect, that’s essentially bollocks. |
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"Men are men, women are women. Full stop .. not hard to comprehend,. For some at least. Marriage Man Woman ..easy"
Long story short, you’re an old fashioned bigot. I mean, sure, we could dress it up and soft soap it but that’s the long and short of it all. |
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"Men are men, women are women. Full stop .. not hard to comprehend,. For some at least. Marriage Man Woman ..easy
Long story short, you’re an old fashioned bigot. I mean, sure, we could dress it up and soft soap it but that’s the long and short of it all. "
Ha ha ha your brain is short I think |
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"Men are men, women are women. Full stop .. not hard to comprehend,. For some at least. Marriage Man Woman ..easy
Long story short, you’re an old fashioned bigot. I mean, sure, we could dress it up and soft soap it but that’s the long and short of it all.
Ha ha ha your brain is short I think
And I think sados like you like to debate this issue to carry favour with our female dabbers. Some people!!!"
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"I prefer the old days where a bloke was a man and a girl was a girl. Call me old fashioned if you want but I am not bigoted in any shape or form. Just wanting a decent good world and what we have at present with you fucked up WOKE society is weird"
So you think we are a new thing?
Suddenly just popped up over the last ten years like s in a lawn?
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Same sex marriage in the real sense should not be tolerated. Perfectly fine for same sex unions to be legally protected and have the same rights as a rightful married couple. But keep 'Marriage' solely between Man and Woman. Though I know it is kind of hard to distinguish between this fucked up world where a boy grows up not sure if their actually a boy nor a girl hasn't a fucking clue if she's a girl.
Men are men, women are women. Full stop .. not hard to comprehend,. For some at least. Marriage Man Woman ..easy"
Back to the “good old Glasgow days” yeah where the man could go down the pub get pissed go home and have his dinner on the table, slap the kids, give the wife a beating and then give her a good seeing too.
Progress. |
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"Very, very odd. you are right so many enjoying there long hard fought for rights being taken away "
Hysterical... our freedom as you put it was won by generations, many losing years of their lives serving this country overseas or bringing up families by themselves whilst sleeping in buried tin shelters in a garden...
We’ve had a challenging period to get through, nothing more.... you talk of lost freedom but looking around this country, seeing things opening back up, a normality returning... I don’t see a huge suffering.
Your William Wallace speech is laughable to be honest, having had to endure your posts for over a year what I will say is when our Freedoms are restored in full, it’s despite everything your vocalised, it’s despite every selfish person like yourselves who have done nothing to help the collective get there.
We are nearing an end to the effects of this pandemic... yet you are still bleating on about fictional issues. If you took all your posts from the past year and then compared them to our historic timeline, they make for hysterical reading... given a few months this one will join them as yet again it sets a new standard in ludicrous. |
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"Same sex marriage in the real sense should not be tolerated. Perfectly fine for same sex unions to be legally protected and have the same rights as a rightful married couple. But keep 'Marriage' solely between Man and Woman. Though I know it is kind of hard to distinguish between this fucked up world where a boy grows up not sure if their actually a boy nor a girl hasn't a fucking clue if she's a girl"
Damn, does this mean my chances of playing flippy flop with you aren’t that high? In truth I think we’d make for a pretty picture if I had you bent over the sofa.
Perhaps read up on the subject though... people relating to the opposite gender have been here for centuries.
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"Also, your profile says “open minded” but you disagree with same sex marriage, isn’t that a contradiction?!
I meant marriage in the true form, in a church and union between man an woman.. a union between same sex couples is great
The true form?
Definitely not open minded then.
Marriage between man and woman is sacrament. This opinion does not mean I am not open minded. Any type of sex union is fine by me but I believe in keeping marriage between man and woman is sacrament.
It’s absolutely not open minded to consider a marriage lesser because it doesn’t happen in a church or is between a same sex couple.
Quite odd to see such clearly religious views being held by a member on a swinging site.
I would not call these religious views. Some of us are active Christians, and hold no truck at all with discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, race, disability, age (legal and moral limits applying in this particular case) or other characteristics.
Let's call these sort of views out for what they are, bigoted. It is perfectly possible to be religious without being bigoted, and in fact I would suggest that anybody holding these type of outmoded opinions cannot be truly genuinely whole heartedly Christian.
Same sex marriage in the real sense should not be tolerated. Perfectly fine for same sex unions to be legally protected and have the same rights as a rightful married couple. But keep 'Marriage' solely between Man and Woman. Though I know it is kind of hard to distinguish between this fucked up world where a boy grows up not sure if their actually a boy nor a girl hasn't a fucking clue if she's a girl
Oh good grief. Several points here - if you get married in a church, but don't sign the legal paperwork then YOU AREN'T MARRIED. Marriage is a legal institution not a religious one. Tell me, do you believe in the biblical definition of marriage? Do you support the idea that a rapist must marry his victim and pay her father as compensation?
You're delusional at best mate "
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"Don't these idiots understand that the death rates are now low BECAUSE of the restrictions, not in spite of them?"
EXACTLY This ^ … the rate fell last year and lockdown was mostly lifted then we bounced to an even higher level.
It feels nice a to be still coping, alive and un-bereaved enough to complain about it doesn’t it.  |
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