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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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Today and tomorrow nightclub Circus, is hoisting the first dance event since first lockdown with 6000 clubers, no social distancing and no masks.
Fingers crossed that this trial will give in the end the green light for all clubs to reopen |
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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Just seen a few clips on my Insta feed they all look like they are having fun. Fair play to them all after such a tough year. Hope they are all buzzing. "
It feels like they are the last hope for the all humanity |
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"Today and tomorrow nightclub Circus, is hoisting the first dance event since first lockdown with 6000 clubers, no social distancing and no masks.
Fingers crossed that this trial will give in the end the green light for all clubs to reopen "
Its good news.. We need to test that the testing we are doing and involved in works.. That way we can open up more of the country.. And that can only be a good thing.
Incidentally it's two nights of 3000 people this month I believe? Not 6k in one go.. Even still.. 3k is a lot of young things full of a year of lockdown wanting to get their sweat on dance like no one is watching and let off steam with a fit of Fatboy on the decks /music player of choice ..
Sounds like a great gig to me !Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ?? |
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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Today and tomorrow nightclub Circus, is hoisting the first dance event since first lockdown with 6000 clubers, no social distancing and no masks.
Fingers crossed that this trial will give in the end the green light for all clubs to reopen
Its good news.. We need to test that the testing we are doing and involved in works.. That way we can open up more of the country.. And that can only be a good thing.
Incidentally it's two nights of 3000 people this month I believe? Not 6k in one go.. Even still.. 3k is a lot of young things full of a year of lockdown wanting to get their sweat on dance like no one is watching and let off steam with a fit of Fatboy on the decks /music player of choice ..
Sounds like a great gig to me !Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??"
The trial is tonight and tomorrow , yes is 3k in each day |
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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Ive just seen a video clip, it feels weird seeing so many people together being normal!
Not many of them will be vaccinated. Testing is the way to go."
I just can't understand why on they are asked to be tested 5 days after the end of the trial , i think all they should be tested in the end of the trial , knowing theres a incubation period of the virus not sure if is this the cause to be tested 5 days after only |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Ive just seen a video clip, it feels weird seeing so many people together being normal!
Not many of them will be vaccinated. Testing is the way to go."
They all had to have a negative test within the last 24 hrs to be allowed to go
Then they will have tests at 5, 10 and 15 days as a follow up….
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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"The bit I cannot get a grip of is that if all covid free going to event how can they catch it at the event?"
That's why in my opinion all they should be tested in the end of the event and not 5, 10, 15 days after because they can catch the virus elsewhere |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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"Ive just seen a video clip, it feels weird seeing so many people together being normal!
Not many of them will be vaccinated. Testing is the way to go.
They all had to have a negative test within the last 24 hrs to be allowed to go
Then they will have tests at 5, 10 and 15 days as a follow up….
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"The bit I cannot get a grip of is that if all covid free going to event how can they catch it at the event?
That's why in my opinion all they should be tested in the end of the event and not 5, 10, 15 days after because they can catch the virus elsewhere "
The only way to stop that would be to put them into 15 day self isolation straight away and test at the 5, 10, 15th day after the event, its going to be interesting results |
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"Today and tomorrow nightclub Circus, is hoisting the first dance event since first lockdown with 6000 clubers, no social distancing and no masks.
Fingers crossed that this trial will give in the end the green light for all clubs to reopen
Its good news.. We need to test that the testing we are doing and involved in works.. That way we can open up more of the country.. And that can only be a good thing.
Incidentally it's two nights of 3000 people this month I believe? Not 6k in one go.. Even still.. 3k is a lot of young things full of a year of lockdown wanting to get their sweat on dance like no one is watching and let off steam with a fit of Fatboy on the decks /music player of choice ..
Sounds like a great gig to me !Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??"
If it goes wrong, it is only 3k young people.
I like the way it is in Liverpool, is this saying that if it goes wrong Scousers are expendable? |
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"Today and tomorrow nightclub Circus, is hoisting the first dance event since first lockdown with 6000 clubers, no social distancing and no masks.
Fingers crossed that this trial will give in the end the green light for all clubs to reopen
Its good news.. We need to test that the testing we are doing and involved in works.. That way we can open up more of the country.. And that can only be a good thing.
Incidentally it's two nights of 3000 people this month I believe? Not 6k in one go.. Even still.. 3k is a lot of young things full of a year of lockdown wanting to get their sweat on dance like no one is watching and let off steam with a fit of Fatboy on the decks /music player of choice ..
Sounds like a great gig to me !Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??
If it goes wrong, it is only 3k young people.
I like the way it is in Liverpool, is this saying that if it goes wrong Scousers are expendable?"
Matt Ashton said on the news they did it in Liverpool as they had the resources for mass testing, there's a middle age people festival experiment and a cinema experiment as well |
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over a year ago
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"Just seen a few clips on my Insta feed they all look like they are having fun. Fair play to them all after such a tough year. Hope they are all buzzing.
It feels like they are the last hope for the all humanity "
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"Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??
How could they abuse it ?"
Was thinking more about behaviour inside and out . Not disturbing the locals on way home no arrests for fights drugs kind of behaviour .. General good behaviour will add to the feeling of success for the project / experiment etc |
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"Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??
How could they abuse it ?
Was thinking more about behaviour inside and out . Not disturbing the locals on way home no arrests for fights drugs kind of behaviour .. General good behaviour will add to the feeling of success for the project / experiment etc "
Yes I agree |
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"Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??
How could they abuse it ?
Was thinking more about behaviour inside and out . Not disturbing the locals on way home no arrests for fights drugs kind of behaviour .. General good behaviour will add to the feeling of success for the project / experiment etc "
I hope there is all of the above plus a hell of a lot of one night stands probably a few stds maybe even a teenage pregnancy. young people doing what young people do have felt really sorry for the 16-21 Age group this last year they are the best times of your life and they should be care free and enjoy every thing |
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"Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??
How could they abuse it ?
Was thinking more about behaviour inside and out . Not disturbing the locals on way home no arrests for fights drugs kind of behaviour .. General good behaviour will add to the feeling of success for the project / experiment etc "
No one lives by where it is. |
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"Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??
How could they abuse it ?
Was thinking more about behaviour inside and out . Not disturbing the locals on way home no arrests for fights drugs kind of behaviour .. General good behaviour will add to the feeling of success for the project / experiment etc
No one lives by where it is."
according to my source the local police received lots of calls from people saying they were concerned by the number of people gathering in the area? not happy about them refusing to follow Covid rules?.. Obviously not knowing the details of the event. I suppose they could have come from somewhere else in the city though *shrugs |
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"Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??
How could they abuse it ?
Was thinking more about behaviour inside and out . Not disturbing the locals on way home no arrests for fights drugs kind of behaviour .. General good behaviour will add to the feeling of success for the project / experiment etc
No one lives by where it is.
according to my source the local police received lots of calls from people saying they were concerned by the number of people gathering in the area? not happy about them refusing to follow Covid rules?.. Obviously not knowing the details of the event. I suppose they could have come from somewhere else in the city though *shrugs "
Dunno who that was cos its down by the docks and no one lives there.
And it was event with thousands of people.. what did they expect?
Sounds like it went well so fingers crossed. |
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"The bit I cannot get a grip of is that if all covid free going to event how can they catch it at the event?"
Because the test results are not 100 % reliable and incubation periods mean you might get a negative test but it just be too early to show on a test - like with STI’s |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??
How could they abuse it ?
Was thinking more about behaviour inside and out . Not disturbing the locals on way home no arrests for fights drugs kind of behaviour .. General good behaviour will add to the feeling of success for the project / experiment etc
No one lives by where it is.
according to my source the local police received lots of calls from people saying they were concerned by the number of people gathering in the area? not happy about them refusing to follow Covid rules?.. Obviously not knowing the details of the event. I suppose they could have come from somewhere else in the city though *shrugs "
Not sure who your "source" is but it seems to have been reported after people saw footage of it
"Merseyside Police has even had to reassure concerned members of the public after receiving messages from people who saw footage of the non-socially distanced event"
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear 
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes"
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes"
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I must be going soft in my old age, I nearly cried watching people enjoying themselves, lets hope this experiment works out"
It's brilliant! They look so happy. |
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests "
It isn't a problem if we have a rise in cases. Its only a problem if hospital admissions rise and seeing as the 4 most vulnerable groups will have had there 2ed vaccine and the 6 most vaunable will be at least 3 weeks clear by the 21st June its highly likely we won't see that rise. |
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests
It isn't a problem if we have a rise in cases. Its only a problem if hospital admissions rise and seeing as the 4 most vulnerable groups will have had there 2ed vaccine and the 6 most vaunable will be at least 3 weeks clear by the 21st June its highly likely we won't see that rise. "
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests
It isn't a problem if we have a rise in cases. Its only a problem if hospital admissions rise and seeing as the 4 most vulnerable groups will have had there 2ed vaccine and the 6 most vaunable will be at least 3 weeks clear by the 21st June its highly likely we won't see that rise. "
You do know it’s a vaccine and not immunisation don’t you?
People can still catch it and transmit it, it only helps with the symptoms  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Today and tomorrow nightclub Circus, is hoisting the first dance event since first lockdown with 6000 clubers, no social distancing and no masks.
Fingers crossed that this trial will give in the end the green light for all clubs to reopen
Its good news.. We need to test that the testing we are doing and involved in works.. That way we can open up more of the country.. And that can only be a good thing.
Incidentally it's two nights of 3000 people this month I believe? Not 6k in one go.. Even still.. 3k is a lot of young things full of a year of lockdown wanting to get their sweat on dance like no one is watching and let off steam with a fit of Fatboy on the decks /music player of choice ..
Sounds like a great gig to me !Really hope it's a success and the young folk don't abuse it though.. ??"
Havent they done this in the Netherlands last month. We havent heard any bad reports |
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests
It isn't a problem if we have a rise in cases. Its only a problem if hospital admissions rise and seeing as the 4 most vulnerable groups will have had there 2ed vaccine and the 6 most vaunable will be at least 3 weeks clear by the 21st June its highly likely we won't see that rise. "
And that's the theory.
Increase in infection yes, most probably.
Increase in hospital admission and death, hopefully not or very little.
Will they all be on their best behaviour..I sincerely hope not, otherwise would be best using pensioners in a 3000 bingo night. ????
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests
It isn't a problem if we have a rise in cases. Its only a problem if hospital admissions rise and seeing as the 4 most vulnerable groups will have had there 2ed vaccine and the 6 most vaunable will be at least 3 weeks clear by the 21st June its highly likely we won't see that rise.
You do know it’s a vaccine and not immunisation don’t you?
People can still catch it and transmit it, it only helps with the symptoms "
Exactly! If the symptoms are less, less likely people will get so sick the not to many people at the same time will to be hospitalised! |
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests
It isn't a problem if we have a rise in cases. Its only a problem if hospital admissions rise and seeing as the 4 most vulnerable groups will have had there 2ed vaccine and the 6 most vaunable will be at least 3 weeks clear by the 21st June its highly likely we won't see that rise.
You do know it’s a vaccine and not immunisation don’t you?
People can still catch it and transmit it, it only helps with the symptoms
Exactly! If the symptoms are less, less likely people will get so sick the not to many people at the same time will to be hospitalised!"
True, but I still expect a rise in numbers. People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard |
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard"
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ? |
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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?"
I think is because there's low risk of someone stay seriously hill because the vacines don't prevent the spread of the virus |
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests
It isn't a problem if we have a rise in cases. Its only a problem if hospital admissions rise and seeing as the 4 most vulnerable groups will have had there 2ed vaccine and the 6 most vaunable will be at least 3 weeks clear by the 21st June its highly likely we won't see that rise.
You do know it’s a vaccine and not immunisation don’t you?
People can still catch it and transmit it, it only helps with the symptoms "
Vaccine and immunisation are synonyms. It's the same thing. No vaccine is 100% efficacious. |
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?
I think is because there's low risk of someone stay seriously hill because the vacines don't prevent the spread of the virus "
Recent data demonstrates that the vaccines DO reduce spread in addition to preventing symptomatic disease. |
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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?
I think is because there's low risk of someone stay seriously hill because the vacines don't prevent the spread of the virus
Recent data demonstrates that the vaccines DO reduce spread in addition to preventing symptomatic disease."
How they reduce spread, does that means vacines reduce the quantity of the virus in the body ? |
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"It's a great trial, to help to get the evidence we need to get the country back into gear
Really hope there's a positive outcome
I'm really hoping there's very few positive outcomes
Call me a cynic bit I think there’ll be a few positive outcomes, but not the way you mean lol
I hope it works, genuinely, but I’m expecting a rise in positive COViD tests
It isn't a problem if we have a rise in cases. Its only a problem if hospital admissions rise and seeing as the 4 most vulnerable groups will have had there 2ed vaccine and the 6 most vaunable will be at least 3 weeks clear by the 21st June its highly likely we won't see that rise.
You do know it’s a vaccine and not immunisation don’t you?
People can still catch it and transmit it, it only helps with the symptoms
Exactly! If the symptoms are less, less likely people will get so sick the not to many people at the same time will to be hospitalised!
True, but I still expect a rise in numbers. People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard"
There will almost certainly be a rise in numbers, we all know that but its not a problem if people don't need to go to hospital. |
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?
I think is because there's low risk of someone stay seriously hill because the vacines don't prevent the spread of the virus
Recent data demonstrates that the vaccines DO reduce spread in addition to preventing symptomatic disease.
How they reduce spread, does that means vacines reduce the quantity of the virus in the body ?"
I think it significantly reduces your viral load therefore reducing your infection rate. |
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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?
I think is because there's low risk of someone stay seriously hill because the vacines don't prevent the spread of the virus
Recent data demonstrates that the vaccines DO reduce spread in addition to preventing symptomatic disease.
How they reduce spread, does that means vacines reduce the quantity of the virus in the body ?
I think it significantly reduces your viral load therefore reducing your infection rate. "
Probably but almost sounds like that is necessary a minimum quantity of the virus to someone get infected |
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By *nlivene OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I genuinely hope it goes well."
Myself also but not being pessimist i received a letter yesterday for arrange appointment to take the vacine (in reality i already had both jabs) and in the letter it says there's no cure for conv19 , reading that really hope the vacines at least they help a long term people being imune |
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?
I think is because there's low risk of someone stay seriously hill because the vacines don't prevent the spread of the virus
Recent data demonstrates that the vaccines DO reduce spread in addition to preventing symptomatic disease."
That data is tainted by people not leaving the house due to lockdown. |
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That data is tainted by people not leaving the house due to lockdown. "
Lockdown has eased now. People are going to work, school, the shops, friends gardens, gyms, hairdressers, outside pubs and yet the rate of deaths and hospital admissions has dramatically reduced. |
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That data is tainted by people not leaving the house due to lockdown.
Lockdown has eased now. People are going to work, school, the shops, friends gardens, gyms, hairdressers, outside pubs and yet the rate of deaths and hospital admissions has dramatically reduced. "
Yes, you'd expect deaths, disabilities, etc to rise if the vaccines weren't working. |
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That data is tainted by people not leaving the house due to lockdown.
Lockdown has eased now. People are going to work, school, the shops, friends gardens, gyms, hairdressers, outside pubs and yet the rate of deaths and hospital admissions has dramatically reduced. "
The numbers aren’t live. The numbers are always historic.
It’s a false feedback from lockdown. And lockdown isn’t over yet. There’s still a lot of restrictions in place.
Plus a lot of people are still staying in their bubbles out of fear. |
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"Today and tomorrow nightclub Circus, is hoisting the first dance event since first lockdown with 6000 clubers, no social distancing and no masks.
Fingers crossed that this trial will give in the end the green light for all clubs to reopen "
Was great to see it on my news feed last night..
People out living. No masks no social distancing no worries (well apart from the sick on your shoes)
I've seen people saying its been a ridiculous event for young people. It's like some people don't want to see the data that we are seeing daily. |
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?"
Its perfectly safe within the confines of the efficacy.
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?
Its perfectly safe within the confines of the efficacy.
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I think it's as safe as we're going to get - and obviously this situation is artificial and cannot be sustained.
I heard something about new guidance from the CDC for vaccinated people. While that doesn't apply here, it shows what some reputable experts are thinking about the way forward.
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That data is tainted by people not leaving the house due to lockdown.
Lockdown has eased now. People are going to work, school, the shops, friends gardens, gyms, hairdressers, outside pubs and yet the rate of deaths and hospital admissions has dramatically reduced.
The numbers aren’t live. The numbers are always historic.
It’s a false feedback from lockdown. And lockdown isn’t over yet. There’s still a lot of restrictions in place.
Plus a lot of people are still staying in their bubbles out of fear. "
Its almost like you don't things to open up.
Its probably as safe as going to get. Yes there is risk but whats the alternative? |
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?
I think is because there's low risk of someone stay seriously hill because the vacines don't prevent the spread of the virus
Recent data demonstrates that the vaccines DO reduce spread in addition to preventing symptomatic disease.
How they reduce spread, does that means vacines reduce the quantity of the virus in the body ?"
If someone acquires the viruses, the vaccines enable them to suppress the virus and so it doesn't replicate and they remain a) asymptomatic or mildly ill and b) with low enough viral load so as not to be infectious.
A lady I know in her 60s who has had 2x doses and her husband (also vaccinated) both tested positive recently (he broke his ankle, went for surgery and has tested positive on two separate swabs, she did the day after his admission too). Neither have any symptoms at all and she feels perfectly well. She's isolating, obviously, and her husband remains in hospital, but they are both people you'd have expected to be seriously ill with Covid (overweight, sedentary, over 60 etc). Apart from the broken ankle (unrelated to Covid), they both feel perfectly fit.
We're not going to eradicate Covid so if we can achieve widespread immunity through vaccination, Covid will become another illness that's very very mild or not even noticed by the vast majority. |
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" People don’t understand that vaccine does not equal immune and they’ll lower their guard
So why did Prof Van Tam say yesterday that if both people have had both vaccinations it is perfectly safe for them to interact as normal ?
I think is because there's low risk of someone stay seriously hill because the vacines don't prevent the spread of the virus
Recent data demonstrates that the vaccines DO reduce spread in addition to preventing symptomatic disease.
How they reduce spread, does that means vacines reduce the quantity of the virus in the body ?
If someone acquires the viruses, the vaccines enable them to suppress the virus and so it doesn't replicate and they remain a) asymptomatic or mildly ill and b) with low enough viral load so as not to be infectious.
A lady I know in her 60s who has had 2x doses and her husband (also vaccinated) both tested positive recently (he broke his ankle, went for surgery and has tested positive on two separate swabs, she did the day after his admission too). Neither have any symptoms at all and she feels perfectly well. She's isolating, obviously, and her husband remains in hospital, but they are both people you'd have expected to be seriously ill with Covid (overweight, sedentary, over 60 etc). Apart from the broken ankle (unrelated to Covid), they both feel perfectly fit.
We're not going to eradicate Covid so if we can achieve widespread immunity through vaccination, Covid will become another illness that's very very mild or not even noticed by the vast majority."
Which is, I believe, what most vaccines do. Very mild to no illness |
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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago
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I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open. |
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"I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open. "
So would you prefer it if venues never opened back up ? |
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"I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open. "
They had to control it to be an accurate experiment. Getting data for the baseline (negative test results) and then assessing movement of people, air flow, etc. Then testing the people again at intervals afterwards.
There were no rules for masks or social distancing, as that will be the 'worst case scenario' in real life.
Presumably big events will demand negative test results for entry in the future. |
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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago
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"I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open.
So would you prefer it if venues never opened back up ?"
Absolutely not |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open.
So would you prefer it if venues never opened back up ?"
Why would you get that from his post?
I wonder why people keep doing this on the forum, someone says something and they make out they have said something else, it just makes the debate go off on a tangent because they have to defend themselves and what they have said
You can give a cautioned view of something and still be in favour of it |
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"I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open.
So would you prefer it if venues never opened back up ?
Why would you get that from his post?
I wonder why people keep doing this on the forum, someone says something and they make out they have said something else, it just makes the debate go off on a tangent because they have to defend themselves and what they have said
You can give a cautioned view of something and still be in favour of it"
Absolutely true dat.
It makes posting very difficult as you have to overthink every comment so it's not taken out of context and someone claims to be offended by some innocuous comment that didn't have any other meaning other that the one stated.
It's a bloody minefield at times. |
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"I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open.
So would you prefer it if venues never opened back up ?
Why would you get that from his post?
I wonder why people keep doing this on the forum, someone says something and they make out they have said something else, it just makes the debate go off on a tangent because they have to defend themselves and what they have said
You can give a cautioned view of something and still be in favour of it
Absolutely true dat.
It makes posting very difficult as you have to overthink every comment so it's not taken out of context and someone claims to be offended by some innocuous comment that didn't have any other meaning other that the one stated.
It's a bloody minefield at times."
It's had the opposite effect with me. Comments are often misconstrued so I don't really bother clarifying anymore.
I could say I don't like oranges and someone would say I'm ageist.
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"I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open. "
Hopefully by the time it does reopen, the threat will be smaller again as we vaccinate more people. |
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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago
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"I, Mr, think it's great that this was possible. But the event was very controlled and highly organised. My concern is how this translates into every day scenarios as I've seen a few pubs turning a blind eye to current rules and can't help but think that the same could well happen when night time entertainment venues are allowed to open.
So would you prefer it if venues never opened back up ?
Why would you get that from his post?
I wonder why people keep doing this on the forum, someone says something and they make out they have said something else, it just makes the debate go off on a tangent because they have to defend themselves and what they have said
You can give a cautioned view of something and still be in favour of it"
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Just saw a video of the opening of this. Genuinely brought goosebumps just watching it. Emotional moment not just for those there but everyone involved in the nightclub and event industry.
Let's hope the results of this test show we can return to events and gigs safely, and for us it's another important step for our clubs re-opening too! |
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I went the pilot event last Saturday on Bramley Moore dock, my PCR test on the day came back negative and this morning I got my PRC test results from Thursday 5 days after the event NEGATIVE! All my mates who went also had the same outcome onwards and upwards! |
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"I went the pilot event last Saturday on Bramley Moore dock, my PCR test on the day came back negative and this morning I got my PRC test results from Thursday 5 days after the event NEGATIVE! All my mates who went also had the same outcome onwards and upwards! "
So good to hear.x |
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"I went the pilot event last Saturday on Bramley Moore dock, my PCR test on the day came back negative and this morning I got my PRC test results from Thursday 5 days after the event NEGATIVE! All my mates who went also had the same outcome onwards and upwards! "
Brilliant |
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"I went the pilot event last Saturday on Bramley Moore dock, my PCR test on the day came back negative and this morning I got my PRC test results from Thursday 5 days after the event NEGATIVE! All my mates who went also had the same outcome onwards and upwards! "
that's great news x |
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"I went the pilot event last Saturday on Bramley Moore dock, my PCR test on the day came back negative and this morning I got my PRC test results from Thursday 5 days after the event NEGATIVE! All my mates who went also had the same outcome onwards and upwards! "
I held my breath as I was reading that! 
Yayyyyyyy!!!! |
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"I went the pilot event last Saturday on Bramley Moore dock, my PCR test on the day came back negative and this morning I got my PRC test results from Thursday 5 days after the event NEGATIVE! All my mates who went also had the same outcome onwards and upwards! "
More evidence that life needs to get back to normal. |
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