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"I prefer to get my virus information from Michael Mcintyre YMMV" That is also good . | |||
"His youtube channel is great. " Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too | |||
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"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. " Exactly - a vile , talentless individual | |||
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"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too " This is why I like him, as some great guest on as well. | |||
"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. " In my opinion, no intellectual would find that kind of thing funny or appropriate. | |||
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"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. " Have to agree with you on that | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. " Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. | |||
"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too This is why I like him, as some great guest on as well." Yes, same here. I also like his guests as well | |||
"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. Exactly - a vile , talentless individual" Came here to say this. The fact that he has a career of any sort after that is revolting. Awful excuse for a person. Jonathan Ross can get in the bin too. | |||
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"Russell Bland — Total Arsehole! I mean, he fucked it up with Katy Perry!! Says it all imo! " | |||
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"He have started to talk about covid on his utube channel, are you also watching it? I like it, it is interesting as he just doesnt have one view, where he is talking about all kinds of things surrounding covid, he also have interviews with others, it is very informative and I recommend it as one to watch " Russell brand is a clever man, and is 18 years clean totally uncovid related | |||
"He has evolved considerably through doing the 12 steps. He points towards important truths these days. But of course some only see the sins of the past " Well said!! His addiction answers for a lot of his past mistakes. He is a little pretentious now with his big words he uses but he is extremely intelligent and usually speaks a lot of sense | |||
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"He has evolved considerably through doing the 12 steps. He points towards important truths these days. But of course some only see the sins of the past Well said!! His addiction answers for a lot of his past mistakes. He is a little pretentious now with his big words he uses but he is extremely intelligent and usually speaks a lot of sense" He is also making money off the steps, which is wrong as they were feely given to him by his sponsor and his predecessor's in recovery, yes he has evolved alit through the step work, but needs to look at steps 6 and 7 a little more in my humble opinion | |||
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"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit." Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. | |||
"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. " Hear, hear!! | |||
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"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. Hear, hear!! " Absolutely this. Victim-blaming is never okay. Be better than that. | |||
"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. Exactly - a vile , talentless individual" | |||
"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. " | |||
"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. Exactly - a vile , talentless individual Came here to say this. The fact that he has a career of any sort after that is revolting. Awful excuse for a person. Jonathan Ross can get in the bin too. " It was only a joke, mate. | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. " I agree. | |||
"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. Exactly - a vile , talentless individual Came here to say this. The fact that he has a career of any sort after that is revolting. Awful excuse for a person. Jonathan Ross can get in the bin too. It was only a joke, mate." Ah yes. The battle cry of bullies and abusers the world over. "Oh, my actions harmed you, and I'm now being challenged on it? I WAS ONLY JOKING!" It was pathetic and disingenuous in the schoolyard and it's even worse coming from supposed adults. Pro tip: Intent does not trump impact. It never has. | |||
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"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. " I also agree and I find him interesting to listen to as well. I am also a spiritual person and I like to do such things like yoga and meditation too | |||
"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. Exactly - a vile , talentless individual Came here to say this. The fact that he has a career of any sort after that is revolting. Awful excuse for a person. Jonathan Ross can get in the bin too. It was only a joke, mate. Ah yes. The battle cry of bullies and abusers the world over. "Oh, my actions harmed you, and I'm now being challenged on it? I WAS ONLY JOKING!" It was pathetic and disingenuous in the schoolyard and it's even worse coming from supposed adults. Pro tip: Intent does not trump impact. It never has. " Prince Philip made a few dud jokes in his time. | |||
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"No thats who grace jones chinned on a talk show once" That's not graceful. | |||
"Im with you on that,a few years ago i heard him talking to members of the westboro baptist church and engaging them which is no picnic . Then i watched a programme he presented about addiction, which was when i noticed , he demonstrated a eve of empathy and self disclosure which i didnt credit him as possessing previously! Since then, i have grown to the point where , his views seem to have more alignment with my own on most issues i have concern about ! Now and again, i find some guests he interviews , not really people i have anything in common with or a liking for(ricky gervais for example) , but other people id never heard of , thanks to recommendation from RB , helped me find a way to start to manage my increasing insomnia. (Wim hoff, if anyone is interested , worth a look). " His empathy and disclosure, im guessing comes from working the 12 steps in his life, and what they teach him, basically to live in spiritual principles | |||
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"He has evolved considerably through doing the 12 steps. He points towards important truths these days. But of course some only see the sins of the past Well said!! His addiction answers for a lot of his past mistakes. He is a little pretentious now with his big words he uses but he is extremely intelligent and usually speaks a lot of sense He is also making money off the steps, which is wrong as they were feely given to him by his sponsor and his predecessor's in recovery, yes he has evolved alit through the step work, but needs to look at steps 6 and 7 a little more in my humble opinion " We are all human. It is easy to see the splinter in an another’s eye despite the log in our own. We have no idea what his inner work is. | |||
"He has evolved considerably through doing the 12 steps. He points towards important truths these days. But of course some only see the sins of the past Well said!! His addiction answers for a lot of his past mistakes. He is a little pretentious now with his big words he uses but he is extremely intelligent and usually speaks a lot of sense He is also making money off the steps, which is wrong as they were feely given to him by his sponsor and his predecessor's in recovery, yes he has evolved alit through the step work, but needs to look at steps 6 and 7 a little more in my humble opinion We are all human. It is easy to see the splinter in an another’s eye despite the log in our own. We have no idea what his inner work is. " I have a very good idea of his inner workings, having written the 12 steps myself, I do the same fellowship as him, and going through alot of similar issues | |||
"I can't stand that man that made a joke I didn't like, for which he apologised, and quit the BBC, thirteen years ago. I dislike him so much I'm going to give him the time and energy to let the internet know just how much I can't stand him. " He was sacked because of his stupid stunt the day following his lewd comments, his actions on MTV showed him up for the total bell end he is, and ultimately led to him being rightly sacked. | |||
"He has evolved considerably through doing the 12 steps. He points towards important truths these days. But of course some only see the sins of the past Well said!! His addiction answers for a lot of his past mistakes. He is a little pretentious now with his big words he uses but he is extremely intelligent and usually speaks a lot of sense He is also making money off the steps, which is wrong as they were feely given to him by his sponsor and his predecessor's in recovery, yes he has evolved alit through the step work, but needs to look at steps 6 and 7 a little more in my humble opinion We are all human. It is easy to see the splinter in an another’s eye despite the log in our own. We have no idea what his inner work is. I have a very good idea of his inner workings, having written the 12 steps myself, I do the same fellowship as him, and going through alot of similar issues " His path and your path are not the same though. | |||
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"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. " Spiritual my backside....He is about as spiritual as a wilted asparagus spear. He spouts utter bollox and will jump on any bandwagon that may give him publicity. Wouldn't give him the time of day... | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. Spiritual my backside....He is about as spiritual as a wilted asparagus spear. He spouts utter bollox and will jump on any bandwagon that may give him publicity. Wouldn't give him the time of day..." This He puts on a good act but if you pay attention you soon see the real him | |||
"He has evolved considerably through doing the 12 steps. He points towards important truths these days. But of course some only see the sins of the past Well said!! His addiction answers for a lot of his past mistakes. He is a little pretentious now with his big words he uses but he is extremely intelligent and usually speaks a lot of sense He is also making money off the steps, which is wrong as they were feely given to him by his sponsor and his predecessor's in recovery, yes he has evolved alit through the step work, but needs to look at steps 6 and 7 a little more in my humble opinion We are all human. It is easy to see the splinter in an another’s eye despite the log in our own. We have no idea what his inner work is. I have a very good idea of his inner workings, having written the 12 steps myself, I do the same fellowship as him, and going through alot of similar issues His path and your path are not the same though." I didnt say they were, however there is alot of shared similarities, which im not going to try to explain if you've nit been through addiction cuz simply you know if you know | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. Spiritual my backside....He is about as spiritual as a wilted asparagus spear. He spouts utter bollox and will jump on any bandwagon that may give him publicity. Wouldn't give him the time of day..." When you are spiritual people generaly turn away from you not turn to you so, I think he could have used many other means if he was simply after publicity. Just because we class ourselves as spiritual we don't class ourselves as enlightened. People alway make errors in judgement but, it how we eveolve and learn from those and he is trying to do that. if he was simply after publicity he would simply be doing the same as he didi years ago and insulting people. I my view of him and using my own experiences and what I have learned, he has started to own his own mistakes and is onw his own spiritual journey. | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. Spiritual my backside....He is about as spiritual as a wilted asparagus spear. He spouts utter bollox and will jump on any bandwagon that may give him publicity. Wouldn't give him the time of day... When you are spiritual people generaly turn away from you not turn to you so, I think he could have used many other means if he was simply after publicity. Just because we class ourselves as spiritual we don't class ourselves as enlightened. People alway make errors in judgement but, it how we eveolve and learn from those and he is trying to do that. if he was simply after publicity he would simply be doing the same as he didi years ago and insulting people. I my view of him and using my own experiences and what I have learned, he has started to own his own mistakes and is onw his own spiritual journey." He is owning his mistakes glad you wrote that, but he is also human and we all make those mistakes | |||
"I can't stand that man that made a joke I didn't like, for which he apologised, and quit the BBC, thirteen years ago. I dislike him so much I'm going to give him the time and energy to let the internet know just how much I can't stand him. He was sacked because of his stupid stunt the day following his lewd comments, his actions on MTV showed him up for the total bell end he is, and ultimately led to him being rightly sacked." Well said | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. Spiritual my backside....He is about as spiritual as a wilted asparagus spear. He spouts utter bollox and will jump on any bandwagon that may give him publicity. Wouldn't give him the time of day..." | |||
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"I'm very spiritual but nothing like him thank goodness. I have also/am battled/battling an addiction but still nothing like him. Two things in my life to be very grateful for " You say you are very spiritual but yet, you agree with the negative comments about someone else who is on his own jorney, should I judge you for that? I think you are wounderful, just for the record. | |||
"I'm very spiritual but nothing like him thank goodness. I have also/am battled/battling an addiction but still nothing like him. Two things in my life to be very grateful for " I don't think any two spiritual people are the same to be fair. | |||
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"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically" No, the point I'm making is someone who is on their own spiritual journey should refrain from negative thought and action, if you do have negative thought and action, part of the journey is to recognise this and use it to question why you where negative. Only a few people have become enlightened andthe rest of us only seek it. I make mistakes daily and have to use those mistake to try and learn about myself and improve. | |||
"I'm very spiritual but nothing like him thank goodness. I have also/am battled/battling an addiction but still nothing like him. Two things in my life to be very grateful for You say you are very spiritual but yet, you agree with the negative comments about someone else who is on his own jorney, should I judge you for that? I think you are wounderful, just for the record." Feel free to judge me however you like | |||
"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically" | |||
"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically No, the point I'm making is someone who is on their own spiritual journey should refrain from negative thought and action, if you do have negative thought and action, part of the journey is to recognise this and use it to question why you where negative. Only a few people have become enlightened andthe rest of us only seek it. I make mistakes daily and have to use those mistake to try and learn about myself and improve. " I am on my spiritual which is unique to me, it doesn't mean i can't critisise RB. | |||
"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. Hear, hear!! Absolutely this. Victim-blaming is never okay. Be better than that. " The only victim in his scenario was the late Mr Sachs, not the woman in question who became a millionaire by flogging her story to the daily scandal rags. It was HIM I felt sorry for, he didn't deserve any of that bullshit or negative publicity in the twilight of his years. Please don't presume tell me what is and isn't "OK" or how to "be": to retiterate, I was actually THERE at the time, with close friends within that social circle, so I think I do kind of know what I'm talking about more than random people who weren't. | |||
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"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. Hear, hear!! Absolutely this. Victim-blaming is never okay. Be better than that. The only victim in his scenario was the late Mr Sachs, not the woman in question who became a millionaire by flogging her story to the daily scandal rags. It was HIM I felt sorry for, he didn't deserve any of that bullshit or negative publicity in the twilight of his years. Please don't presume tell me what is and isn't "OK" or how to "be": to retiterate, I was actually THERE at the time, with close friends within that social circle, so I think I do kind of know what I'm talking about more than random people who weren't. " But what has the woman got to do with Brand's and Ross's actions at the time? | |||
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"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically " What did they say about Shakespeare and a room full of monkeys? You say enough words... Some of them will appeal to some people. | |||
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"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically No, the point I'm making is someone who is on their own spiritual journey should refrain from negative thought and action, if you do have negative thought and action, part of the journey is to recognise this and use it to question why you where negative. Only a few people have become enlightened andthe rest of us only seek it. I make mistakes daily and have to use those mistake to try and learn about myself and improve. I am on my spiritual which is unique to me, it doesn't mean i can't critisise RB. " I don't judge you an any level, you are you and your journey is wonderful and you feel free to judge or comment on what you like, that is your chioce. What I am saying in negativity goes completely against what spiritual guru's teach and against one own spiritual path to seek enlightenment. I also don't judge Rusel Brand on his past actions and what I see of his person is only a small glimse and all I do in commend him and that and his spiritual life he has begun to lead. Even if he where somehow, putting on an act' if one person can learn something positive from that, that is a good thing. | |||
"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. Hear, hear!! Absolutely this. Victim-blaming is never okay. Be better than that. The only victim in his scenario was the late Mr Sachs, not the woman in question who became a millionaire by flogging her story to the daily scandal rags. It was HIM I felt sorry for, he didn't deserve any of that bullshit or negative publicity in the twilight of his years. Please don't presume tell me what is and isn't "OK" or how to "be": to retiterate, I was actually THERE at the time, with close friends within that social circle, so I think I do kind of know what I'm talking about more than random people who weren't. But what has the woman got to do with Brand's and Ross's actions at the time? " It was her to whom they were referring on the air that 'infamous' day. | |||
"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. Hear, hear!! Absolutely this. Victim-blaming is never okay. Be better than that. The only victim in his scenario was the late Mr Sachs, not the woman in question who became a millionaire by flogging her story to the daily scandal rags. It was HIM I felt sorry for, he didn't deserve any of that bullshit or negative publicity in the twilight of his years. Please don't presume tell me what is and isn't "OK" or how to "be": to retiterate, I was actually THERE at the time, with close friends within that social circle, so I think I do kind of know what I'm talking about more than random people who weren't. But what has the woman got to do with Brand's and Ross's actions at the time? It was her to whom they were referring on the air that 'infamous' day." Yes I know but she wasn't responsible for their actions. I'm asking because I wonder why you mentioned her in the context you did. | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. Spiritual my backside....He is about as spiritual as a wilted asparagus spear. He spouts utter bollox and will jump on any bandwagon that may give him publicity. Wouldn't give him the time of day..." You just did. | |||
"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. Hear, hear!! Absolutely this. Victim-blaming is never okay. Be better than that. The only victim in his scenario was the late Mr Sachs, not the woman in question who became a millionaire by flogging her story to the daily scandal rags. It was HIM I felt sorry for, he didn't deserve any of that bullshit or negative publicity in the twilight of his years. Please don't presume tell me what is and isn't "OK" or how to "be": to retiterate, I was actually THERE at the time, with close friends within that social circle, so I think I do kind of know what I'm talking about more than random people who weren't. But what has the woman got to do with Brand's and Ross's actions at the time? It was her to whom they were referring on the air that 'infamous' day. Yes I know but she wasn't responsible for their actions. I'm asking because I wonder why you mentioned her in the context you did. " The general impression I got, including from my friend who dated her, was that she was complicit in the whole affair and actually put Russell up to it (though don't quote me on that, I the last thing I would want after losing my job during the worldwide shutdown is to become embroiled in a costly legal wrangle over semantics) However, I do know that she at the very least thanked him for it because of the immense publicity (and money) generated as a result. Make of that what one will. | |||
"He was undoubtedly a twat in his younger years, and I for one couldn't wait to punch his face in whenever I saw him. However, as time has gone on he's quit the booze and drugs, re-evaluated himself and actually ended up doing some very good works for people- like trying to stop the entire population of a North London housing estate from being forced out of their homes by developers, for instance. Yes, his actions towards Andrew Sachs were vile, and so were Jonathan Ross's. However, having met the lady in question, trust me, she was no shrinking flower- and she dined out off the publicity garnered from that for years afterwards, as she also did from her 'shock revelations' about her affair with Adam Ant. The London music industry was FULL of these kinds of people in the 00s: indeed, it was one of the major reasons I quit. Whatever the lady in question was like has no bearing on his actions, they were entirely his and Jonathon Ross's responsibility. Hear, hear!! Absolutely this. Victim-blaming is never okay. Be better than that. The only victim in his scenario was the late Mr Sachs, not the woman in question who became a millionaire by flogging her story to the daily scandal rags. It was HIM I felt sorry for, he didn't deserve any of that bullshit or negative publicity in the twilight of his years. Please don't presume tell me what is and isn't "OK" or how to "be": to retiterate, I was actually THERE at the time, with close friends within that social circle, so I think I do kind of know what I'm talking about more than random people who weren't. But what has the woman got to do with Brand's and Ross's actions at the time? It was her to whom they were referring on the air that 'infamous' day. Yes I know but she wasn't responsible for their actions. I'm asking because I wonder why you mentioned her in the context you did. The general impression I got, including from my friend who dated her, was that she was complicit in the whole affair and actually put Russell up to it (though don't quote me on that, I the last thing I would want after losing my job during the worldwide shutdown is to become embroiled in a costly legal wrangle over semantics) However, I do know that she at the very least thanked him for it because of the immense publicity (and money) generated as a result. Make of that what one will." Hmm. I make nothing of it except that quite often when men do bad things they will look for a way to blame a woman. Two adult men in the public eye did something really stupid. The end | |||
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"He have started to talk about covid on his utube channel, are you also watching it? I like it, it is interesting as he just doesnt have one view, where he is talking about all kinds of things surrounding covid, he also have interviews with others, it is very informative and I recommend it as one to watch " I thought he was a bit of an entitled tosser for ages.. And never found him funny.. When he goy into heroin chique and pseudo rocks tar mode I ignored him completely However,I did begin to watch a lot of his videos recently . He is I think a decent caring kind of guy who is also a bit sceptical of lots of things.. Which isn't a bad way to be.. I doubt very much if he is trying to alter people' views on Covid.. Possibly the impact of being locked up self isolation and depression? I can see him doing that.. He seems okay to me just a decent bloke really.. | |||
"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically No, the point I'm making is someone who is on their own spiritual journey should refrain from negative thought and action, if you do have negative thought and action, part of the journey is to recognise this and use it to question why you where negative. Only a few people have become enlightened andthe rest of us only seek it. I make mistakes daily and have to use those mistake to try and learn about myself and improve. I am on my spiritual which is unique to me, it doesn't mean i can't critisise RB. I don't judge you an any level, you are you and your journey is wonderful and you feel free to judge or comment on what you like, that is your chioce. What I am saying in negativity goes completely against what spiritual guru's teach and against one own spiritual path to seek enlightenment. I also don't judge Rusel Brand on his past actions and what I see of his person is only a small glimse and all I do in commend him and that and his spiritual life he has begun to lead. Even if he where somehow, putting on an act' if one person can learn something positive from that, that is a good thing." | |||
"He has evolved considerably through doing the 12 steps. He points towards important truths these days. But of course some only see the sins of the past " 100% this . We love the changed person he's become! | |||
"He has evolved considerably through doing the 12 steps. He points towards important truths these days. But of course some only see the sins of the past Well said!! His addiction answers for a lot of his past mistakes. He is a little pretentious now with his big words he uses but he is extremely intelligent and usually speaks a lot of sense" He was sober and already in recovery for years when he thought it was “hilarious” to insult Andrew Sachs granddaughter | |||
"I can't stand that man that made a joke I didn't like, for which he apologised, and quit the BBC, thirteen years ago. I dislike him so much I'm going to give him the time and energy to let the internet know just how much I can't stand him. He was sacked because of his stupid stunt the day following his lewd comments, his actions on MTV showed him up for the total bell end he is, and ultimately led to him being rightly sacked." Thanks, Jamie. | |||
"I can't stand that man that made a joke I didn't like, for which he apologised, and quit the BBC, thirteen years ago. I dislike him so much I'm going to give him the time and energy to let the internet know just how much I can't stand him. He was sacked because of his stupid stunt the day following his lewd comments, his actions on MTV showed him up for the total bell end he is, and ultimately led to him being rightly sacked. Well said " | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Agree with this, as a spiritual person he has admitted his faults and grown, evolved. I'm very spiritual and as a teen and early twentees, I was a shit but, I have evolved and grown. I would love to talk to him about his spiritual path. Spiritual my backside....He is about as spiritual as a wilted asparagus spear. He spouts utter bollox and will jump on any bandwagon that may give him publicity. Wouldn't give him the time of day... You just did." Bingo! | |||
"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically No, the point I'm making is someone who is on their own spiritual journey should refrain from negative thought and action, if you do have negative thought and action, part of the journey is to recognise this and use it to question why you where negative. Only a few people have become enlightened andthe rest of us only seek it. I make mistakes daily and have to use those mistake to try and learn about myself and improve. I am on my spiritual which is unique to me, it doesn't mean i can't critisise RB. I don't judge you an any level, you are you and your journey is wonderful and you feel free to judge or comment on what you like, that is your chioce. What I am saying in negativity goes completely against what spiritual guru's teach and against one own spiritual path to seek enlightenment. I also don't judge Rusel Brand on his past actions and what I see of his person is only a small glimse and all I do in commend him and that and his spiritual life he has begun to lead. Even if he where somehow, putting on an act' if one person can learn something positive from that, that is a good thing. " That's a lot of Smileyfaces. You must have enjoyed your wine. | |||
"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically No, the point I'm making is someone who is on their own spiritual journey should refrain from negative thought and action, if you do have negative thought and action, part of the journey is to recognise this and use it to question why you where negative. Only a few people have become enlightened andthe rest of us only seek it. I make mistakes daily and have to use those mistake to try and learn about myself and improve. I am on my spiritual which is unique to me, it doesn't mean i can't critisise RB. I don't judge you an any level, you are you and your journey is wonderful and you feel free to judge or comment on what you like, that is your chioce. What I am saying in negativity goes completely against what spiritual guru's teach and against one own spiritual path to seek enlightenment. I also don't judge Rusel Brand on his past actions and what I see of his person is only a small glimse and all I do in commend him and that and his spiritual life he has begun to lead. Even if he where somehow, putting on an act' if one person can learn something positive from that, that is a good thing. That's a lot of Smileyfaces. You must have enjoyed your wine. " I did one glass | |||
"He have started to talk about covid on his utube channel, are you also watching it? I like it, it is interesting as he just doesnt have one view, where he is talking about all kinds of things surrounding covid, he also have interviews with others, it is very informative and I recommend it as one to watch " If his Title was Dr Brand or Mr (Specialist) Brand. Or perhaps even Professor Brand . . . I may go look. But while it is just Mr Here's my opinion Brand I'll leave it.. | |||
"He have started to talk about covid on his utube channel, are you also watching it? I like it, it is interesting as he just doesnt have one view, where he is talking about all kinds of things surrounding covid, he also have interviews with others, it is very informative and I recommend it as one to watch If his Title was Dr Brand or Mr (Specialist) Brand. Or perhaps even Professor Brand . . . I may go look. But while it is just Mr Here's my opinion Brand I'll leave it.. " Are you going to leave the Virus forum? | |||
"The bloke is an utter talentless prize bell end " he comes on tv and I turn it over | |||
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"Why does anyone listen to a talentless big mouth like him. Like others here we turn him off should he appear on tv. He has no idea what he is talking about and just loves the sound of his own voice. " I think he does have more than a clue to be fair.. Some of his YT videos and interviews etc are really rather thought provoking.. Well I thought so anyway | |||
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"You,be got to admire his abstinence from drink and drugs " Yes u do I believe 18 years with no substance, that takes more than what ppl realise to achieve | |||
"Why does anyone listen to a talentless big mouth like him. Like others here we turn him off should he appear on tv. He has no idea what he is talking about and just loves the sound of his own voice. I think he does have more than a clue to be fair.. Some of his YT videos and interviews etc are really rather thought provoking.. Well I thought so anyway " Thought provoking if you've fuck all better to think about,,, maybe. | |||
" Are you going to leave the Virus forum?" Missing any connection with anything I said and what that would have to do with me leaving the virus forum? | |||
"The bloke is an utter talentless prize bell end " I couldnt agree more. | |||
"You,be got to admire his abstinence from drink and drugs Yes u do I believe 18 years with no substance, that takes more than what ppl realise to achieve " Exactly,I,ve done 17 years without a drink,do like a wacky baccy though | |||
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"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. In my opinion, no intellectual would find that kind of thing funny or appropriate. " I'll just speak for my boyfriend Russell here now as he isn't able to defend himself. Haven't we all made mistakes in our past and caused hurt to others? If you followed his story, which I get that you probably haven't, not being a fan an' all; he has gone to great lengths to make heartfelt apologies to those he has done wrong in his life when he was young and foolish and battling addiction . This is a part of the 12 step programme which he incorporates into his life on a daily basis. He has been to hell and back with his addictions and now spends his time mentoring others. He has a deep deep understanding of human psychology and what drives addiction in us. Leave my Russell alone | |||
"I'm not a fan, actually, I'm really not a fan. But I think people should be allowed and if appropriate applauded for changing themselves for the better. Changing is hard so anyone who can achieve that is doing well. As for his channel on glue lube....never seen it so can't fairly comment on it. But if its promoting thought and discussion... What's the harm? " people dont get a chance to grow and learn and change anymore, they just get cancelled | |||
"I'm not a fan, actually, I'm really not a fan. But I think people should be allowed and if appropriate applauded for changing themselves for the better. Changing is hard so anyone who can achieve that is doing well. As for his channel on glue lube....never seen it so can't fairly comment on it. But if its promoting thought and discussion... What's the harm? people dont get a chance to grow and learn and change anymore, they just get cancelled " Exactly... One mistake and out. If its not perfect, its crap. A mispoken word is a career ending offence. Its bonkers. | |||
"Thats true and i think it was a watershed moment for him, i think ,like ross whose show he was on, was like russell was , off his tits, and he took what was really ,ive said some stupid shit at times , and not being particularly witty , i mote than made up for it with puerile and and offensive crudity! Its quite difficult to face up to the offence and pain has been created by conceit and arriogance, especially if comments are a breach of someones trust! So when it happens it has to include the reasons why the person said what they said , i think he , (brand) having worked through the twelve step programme of narcotics anonymous , has at some stage , compiled what is regarded as a “fearless moral inventory” , listing everyone who has been a victim of the addicts selfishness cruelty , neglect, abuse, and deceipt, while they were in the grip of their addiction, each one of these people is usually contacted , and if they agree to meet face to face , an effort is made to address the specific damage caused by the addicts words or actions which destroyed that relationship, even if there is no positive outcome ,or likely reply , the addict irequires it of himself to address each person , so that he no longer uses his relationships to enable and nurture his addictive thoughts and behaviour. I m not in any way excusing the things he may have said or done when he was using, but he has acknowledged his lifelong struggle to recover from it, and in itself , i think it deserves , at least , recognition, part of the twelve step programme also includes , acknowledging the need to forgive oneself for the pain and harm caused to oneself . And also others who may also have ostracised or sought to sanction the addicts behaviour . If we make changes , our relationships change , if we hold on to hurt blame and judgement , that is where we remain , its quite easy to turn away and wash our hands , pointing out , leopards cant change their spots , once an addict always an addict etc, i suppose in the end , we can be thankful our own selfish fuckwittery and punishment of others is not witnessed by 2 or 3 milion others at the time, or heaven forfend , we would never move on would we?" I love this. Thank you. Its what I wanted to say | |||
"So because russel is on a journey people cant say negative things about him? Just because he has got himself clean dosent stop him being the bellend he has always been ad yes ive been in the same place myself.fact is russel will spout bollox most of the time and every now and then come out with something half sensible.just because he got hiself clean dosent meen he is free from criticism.anything to keep himself in the public eye basically No, the point I'm making is someone who is on their own spiritual journey should refrain from negative thought and action, if you do have negative thought and action, part of the journey is to recognise this and use it to question why you where negative. Only a few people have become enlightened andthe rest of us only seek it. I make mistakes daily and have to use those mistake to try and learn about myself and improve. " | |||
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"You,be got to admire his abstinence from drink and drugs Yes u do I believe 18 years with no substance, that takes more than what ppl realise to achieve Exactly,I,ve done 17 years without a drink,do like a wacky baccy though " I've done 4 total abstinence | |||
"You,be got to admire his abstinence from drink and drugs Yes u do I believe 18 years with no substance, that takes more than what ppl realise to achieve Exactly,I,ve done 17 years without a drink,do like a wacky baccy though I've done 4 total abstinence " Well done mate | |||
" Are you going to leave the Virus forum? Missing any connection with anything I said and what that would have to do with me leaving the virus forum?" I'm guessing most people that post aren't doctors. | |||
"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. " Doesn’t mean he’s not spiritual now though? | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Have to agree with you on that " Ditto | |||
"I think this explains why I'm at odds with most forum users. I like the guy. Find him interesting to listen to. Have to agree with you on that Ditto " Well that's 3 of you in his fan club I guess | |||
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"His youtube channel is great. Yes. I think so too, he is also a very spirutual person, which I like about him too Can't stand the guy, he wasn't very spiritual when he humiliated Andrew Sachs with lewd comments about his granddaughter. Doesn’t mean he’s not spiritual now though?" He apologised for that very publicly, furthermore Johnathan Ross egged him on, he was also inebriated (he has been clean and sober for a few years now). Russell of today is a very different person from the Russell of 10 years ago. | |||
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"Why does anyone listen to a talentless big mouth like him. Like others here we turn him off should he appear on tv. He has no idea what he is talking about and just loves the sound of his own voice. I think he does have more than a clue to be fair.. Some of his YT videos and interviews etc are really rather thought provoking.. Well I thought so anyway Thought provoking if you've fuck all better to think about,,, maybe. " I would counter that the thought that is provoked tends to be effective only to those who have the intellect and soul to understand its meaning or purpose.. Those who can't.. Generally haven't got what if takes.. | |||
"Why does anyone listen to a talentless big mouth like him. Like others here we turn him off should he appear on tv. He has no idea what he is talking about and just loves the sound of his own voice. I think he does have more than a clue to be fair.. Some of his YT videos and interviews etc are really rather thought provoking.. Well I thought so anyway Thought provoking if you've fuck all better to think about,,, maybe. I would counter that the thought that is provoked tends to be effective only to those who have the intellect and soul to understand its meaning or purpose.. Those who can't.. Generally haven't got what if takes.. " Touche but I'll live with it | |||