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By *sianManc OP Man over a year ago

Manchester

Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'll feel safer when I've had two jabs.

Across the population there's a high level of efficacy - not 100%. The same as it is for measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, whooping cough, and all the other vaccine preventable diseases I've never personally been troubled by.

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By *ANCLAD1993Man over a year ago

Fallowfield

Better to be 70% than 0

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Better to be 70% than 0"

Yes.

If the R0 is 2-3 when everyone is at 0 - vaccines will shrink that, given the research coming out. If enough people are vaccinated, Covid will no longer be able to spread in a way which causes epidemics.

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By *udistcpl1Couple over a year ago

Wirral

Plus my understanding is that if you have had the vaccination and you do catch covid, it will at least keep you out of hospital. I thought the US study showed 100% success in preventing serious illness.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic."

Neither do any of the other jabs we have.

Which is why everyone I know had measles as a child - no wait, no they didn't.

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

I feel much safer now after having my 2 jabs. I am aware I may still catch covid but also aware the symptoms will be much milder if I do.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Plus my understanding is that if you have had the vaccination and you do catch covid, it will at least keep you out of hospital. I thought the US study showed 100% success in preventing serious illness."

For J&J this is definitely so, and it's very high percentages for the others too.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

Not sure anyone thinks any of the vaccines is 100 per cent. Are you of the opinion that people are of that opinion op?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic."

So that would be protecting others then? If it doesn't spread as easily?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

So that would be protecting others then? If it doesn't spread as easily? "

Yes

Except in this magical land where if something isn't 100% perfect it's 100% useless

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic."

So it’s better have it than not

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've had both jabs. Right now I'm as medically safe as they can make me. That's good enough for me

Mrs C

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

Yes, a whole lot more safer than without it..

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple over a year ago

liverpool

If it stops most hospitalizations then that makes covid almost irrelevant.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic."

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"If it stops most hospitalizations then that makes covid almost irrelevant.

Hope so

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"
As safe as I can be

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only had one jab so far the astra don’t think even after second jab in may nothing is %100 safe

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By *izandpaulCouple over a year ago

merseyside

Think once the death element is removed or in very low figures the interest in Covid will wane.

Sadly, many folks will be suffering for a while yet but the press will become less interested and without headline numbers it's not news.

To see people survive, where once they didn't will be a relief.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Only had one jab so far the astra don’t think even after second jab in may nothing is %100 safe

Condoms aren't 100% but life is full of risks

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"If it stops most hospitalizations then that makes covid almost irrelevant.

January hospitalisations.. 4k a day

Yesterday's hospitalisations... 273

January relevant deaths over 1000 per day

Yesterday relevant deaths 10

Yesterday infections 2300

January infections per day approx 60k per day....

January.. lockdown...

Yesterday... Hmmm

Somethings improving the situation

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Think once the death element is removed or in very low figures the interest in Covid will wane.

Sadly, many folks will be suffering for a while yet but the press will become less interested and without headline numbers it's not news.

To see people survive, where once they didn't will be a relief.

Won't it be wonderful when the media stop throwing petrol on the flames and turn to a level results, schooling and summer season protests... Oh and meghans latest outfit.

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

The recent testing in 12-15 year olds established that the Vaccine was 100% effective in that age group.

Cal

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

If they are keeping people out of hospital then does it really matter that its not reporting at 100%

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By *orkshire_roses999Couple over a year ago

yorkshire

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic."

Not true.it helps slow down the spread of the infectivity.

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By *lamourpussyCouple over a year ago

Warwick

Yes it did and in the UK no one who has had both jabs ( and time after the second to develop immunity) has died of Covid.

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By *sianManc OP Man over a year ago

Manchester

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?

Not sure anyone thinks any of the vaccines is 100 per cent. Are you of the opinion that people are of that opinion op? "

No not at all im curious as to how nonchalant and blasse or rather more relaxed people will be after having 2 jabs when there will be a vast number who won't social distance or wear masks or get vaccinated. I feel even after 2 jabs taking the eye off the ball is more likely but perhaps inept and surely not prudent thus asked the question to guage the consensus of the members on this.

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

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Not true.it helps slow down the spread of the infectivity."

Yes... and it reduces the length of time that you are infectious for, plus reduces the severity of any illness.

Seems like a win-win-win to me.

Cal

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By *orkshire_roses999Couple over a year ago

yorkshire

Yep that is correct cal.good information reports and various studies all concurred that it’s 97-100%

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

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Not true.it helps slow down the spread of the infectivity.

Yes... and it reduces the length of time that you are infectious for, plus reduces the severity of any illness.

Seems like a win-win-win to me.

Cal"

It's consistent with what we know about other vaccines.

Measles has an R0 of 15-20, and mostly it's under control. Because of vaccination.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

There is a 100% chance of death from being born.

Everything else either speeds up or slows down the process.

Nothing is 100% apart from death, but if someone offered you a 70% chance of not being punched in the face or a 90% chance of not being punched in the face most people would take the 90%.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic."
..this is outdated information now. The vaccine has been shown to reduce transmission and ability to catch the virus too

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic...this is outdated information now. The vaccine has been shown to reduce transmission and ability to catch the virus too"

Whaaaaat! You mean the situation changes? What we know and learn changes? Nooooo....

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By *amish SMan over a year ago

Eastleigh

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

Which is very high in vaccine terms, so yes. I have the flu jab each year and it's not even half as as effective.

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

Everyone is different and will be protected at different levels

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic...this is outdated information now. The vaccine has been shown to reduce transmission and ability to catch the virus too

Whaaaaat! You mean the situation changes? What we know and learn changes? Nooooo.... "
I know... you wouldn't think it would you with how some are acting

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

The vaccine only stops you getting severely ill from the virus so it's easier to treat and probably not as life threatening but a person can still be a carrier of the virus to spread to another everyone is built differently and have different immune system levels just like most medication people get side effects where others don't the tolerance level of a person pays a huge part in human to human body is super human we all have weak points

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

for those that doubt the vaccine just look at care homes and see the impact from having the worse death rate to nearly no covid related death rates ..

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

Nobody is super human we all have weak points

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The vaccine only stops you getting severely ill from the virus so it's easier to treat and probably not as life threatening but a person can still be a carrier of the virus to spread to another everyone is built differently and have different immune system levels just like most medication people get side effects where others don't the tolerance level of a person pays a huge part in human to human body is super human we all have weak points"

The information is being updated and it now seems that transmission is severely reduced, to the point where it could be epidemic ending

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"for those that doubt the vaccine just look at care homes and see the impact from having the worse death rate to nearly no covid related death rates ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

Neither do any of the other jabs we have.

Which is why everyone I know had measles as a child - no wait, no they didn't."

No wait, they didn't? They didn't what?

Get chicken pox? / the pox? a red rash? Not me. Oh no.

It was just a coincidence.

It was German Measles.

There, that'll set em off. Bloody G......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The information is being updated and it now seems that transmission is severely reduced, to the point where it could be epidemic ending"

Glad that the information is being updated. That is that then. Back to normal from next, erm, from next, Boris update? Dripford udate? Meanwhile, NI back to normal.

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By *ntelligent Gent.Man over a year ago

.....

Comon nasal spray!

Legal highs.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

If it's just the one person getting the vaccine, they are SAFER after having the jab, but not SAFE.

However provided that enough other people have also been vaccinated, the fact that it _reduces_ the disease period for a vaccinated person that does catch it, and _reduces_ the likelihood of catching it for another vaccinated person, means that any infected person is (on average) less likely to pass it to as many people as would happen without the vaccinations. If the vaccines are good enough (70% is just about good enough) and enough are vaccinated (number needed depends on how good the vaccines are, for covid it's maybe 85% vaccinated for 70% effective vaccine) then the R0 value drops below 1, and every week that goes by the case numbers will fall.

When the number of infectious people walking around gets low enough, a 70% effective vaccine is enough to make everyone (even those not vaccinated) something like 99.99% safe, because they are just so unlikely to bump into anybody that they could catch it from.

And then, even if we do get the occasional infected person coming in from another country, as long as they aren't carrying some new more infectious strain, we still won't get a return to epidemic - a few people might catch it from the infected one, but it would just be a local cluster that would fade out on its own.

Which is how a vaccine that is only 70% good leads to everybody being SAFE, and covid becoming just a background nuisance instead of a major health hazard.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

Neither do any of the other jabs we have.

Which is why everyone I know had measles as a child - no wait, no they didn't.

No wait, they didn't? They didn't what?

Get chicken pox? / the pox? a red rash? Not me. Oh no.

It was just a coincidence.

It was German Measles.

There, that'll set em off. Bloody G......"

... Rubella was in my jab, too.

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By *arkus1812Man over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

Safer Yes.

Complacent No

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

Neither do any of the other jabs we have.

Which is why everyone I know had measles as a child - no wait, no they didn't.

No wait, they didn't? They didn't what?

Get chicken pox? / the pox? a red rash? Not me. Oh no.

It was just a coincidence.

It was German Measles.

There, that'll set em off. Bloody G......

... Rubella was in my jab, too."

I can't help tuning on the tube of you to Perpetuum Jazzile singing Rosanna at the point and pretending they're singing Rubella.

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By *arsmike111Man over a year ago

BIGGLESWADE

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By *yn drwgMan over a year ago

Camarthen

No vaccine is 100% but surely safer after a couple of Jabs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them.."

So, having the covid jab won't stop me from dying in an aeroplane accident?

Why didn't you tell me this sooner?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

It's a really good percentage.

Nothing in this world is ever 100%

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them..

So, having the covid jab won't stop me from dying in an aeroplane accident?

Why didn't you tell me this sooner?

No.. Don't think it's going to help that really popular scenario where people step off a kerb into the path of a bus either.

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By * F 2018Couple over a year ago

shropshire

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them..

So, having the covid jab won't stop me from dying in an aeroplane accident?

Why didn't you tell me this sooner?

No.. Don't think it's going to help that really popular scenario where people step off a kerb into the path of a bus either. "

Bring back blaming buses for bus accidents again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them..

So, having the covid jab won't stop me from dying in an aeroplane accident?

Why didn't you tell me this sooner?

No.. Don't think it's going to help that really popular scenario where people step off a kerb into the path of a bus either. "

I totally get that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them..

So, having the covid jab won't stop me from dying in an aeroplane accident?

Why didn't you tell me this sooner?

No.. Don't think it's going to help that really popular scenario where people step off a kerb into the path of a bus either.

Bring back blaming buses for bus accidents again"

Cars are the most dangerous things on the road. Take for example the insurance claim - it was the tree that jumped out at me.

A car is only dangerous when it is being driven.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

It's great news for more of us to get both jabs, to reduce the likelihood of severe problems for ourselves, others and the country.

I've never seen anyone claim 100% safety, so wonder what's behind this spurious claim, with nothing behind it.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them..

So, having the covid jab won't stop me from dying in an aeroplane accident?

Why didn't you tell me this sooner?

No.. Don't think it's going to help that really popular scenario where people step off a kerb into the path of a bus either.

Bring back blaming buses for bus accidents again

Cars are the most dangerous things on the road. Take for example the insurance claim - it was the tree that jumped out at me.

A car is only dangerous when it is being driven."

But it's buses that cause Covid-19, see.

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By *essysteveCouple over a year ago

ALICANTE AREA SPAIN

Jezzzzzzzz - all these medical experts FFS

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them..

So, having the covid jab won't stop me from dying in an aeroplane accident?

Why didn't you tell me this sooner?

No.. Don't think it's going to help that really popular scenario where people step off a kerb into the path of a bus either.

Bring back blaming buses for bus accidents again

Cars are the most dangerous things on the road. Take for example the insurance claim - it was the tree that jumped out at me.

A car is only dangerous when it is being driven.

But it's buses that cause Covid-19, see."

No, it's bus drivers.

Without bus drivers, buses won't bus. And a bus won't bus without a bus driver.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Condoms aren't 100% either but I still insist on anyone I'm having sex with wear one as its a lot lower risk than not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We’ve both had our first jabs. One thing that always strikes me (Fire) is that the death statistics are based on people who have died within 28 days of testing positive. How many of those have ACTUALLY died of Covid related conditions/complications. I am sure the figure is NOT going to be negligible, but if it’s ALL deaths for whatever reason, then surely it’s not a true reflection (get run over by a bus, tested positive for covid - cause of death covid?).

As I say I’m sure the actual figure would still be large, and hopefully the vaccinations will minimise Hospitalisation and death from Covid. But it might be nice to know what the actual figures are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

Yes a lot safer

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By *mooth tongue 4uMan over a year ago

edinburgh

Got my first jag today , can’t wait to get the second , if it helps speed up our recovery from this pandemic and get things opening up and bringing normality back I’ll take a third

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By *ngel696969Woman over a year ago

Farnworth

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

So that would be protecting others then? If it doesn't spread as easily?

Yes

Except in this magical land where if something isn't 100% perfect it's 100% useless

So pointless having it then?

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By *andR510Couple over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

Does Lewis Hamilton stop driving his car when his tyres and brakes go below 90% ?

We can go all day with this question but you're neglecting to mention that masks and social distancing, plus the proportion of asymptomatic people and also the likelihood of even coming into contact with a carrier, then there hardly seems to be any point.

If you're banking on 100% efficacy as your benchmark to safety, then you'd best start thinking about getting a new TV and sofa.

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"I've had both jabs. Right now I'm as medically safe as they can make me. That's good enough for me

Mrs C"

Wise words indeed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not an epidemiologist so I'll trust any vaccine they give.

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By *orkshire_roses999Couple over a year ago

yorkshire

If I have the vaccine I am less likely to spread it to others as I’ll have some immunity.

If Everyone has it then you’ll find that the R rate will drop and that it’ll make it harder for it to be transmitted. That’s the way transmission data is calculated

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By *elshsunsWoman over a year ago

Flintshire

God imagine having no jabs .... shock horror

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By *orkshire_roses999Couple over a year ago

yorkshire

Yup.small pox would be rife, measles would be a big killer as would rubella......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Polio as well. Billions dead probably.

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By *uke olovingmanMan over a year ago

Gravesend

I'm still waiting for my second jab .. I'll feel a lot more confident when I m full of anticovid

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By *ocbigMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

The same can be said for seatbelts, airbags etc..

They won't stop RTC's but they tend to reduce the level of potential injury that comes from them..

So, having the covid jab won't stop me from dying in an aeroplane accident?

Why didn't you tell me this sooner?

No.. Don't think it's going to help that really popular scenario where people step off a kerb into the path of a bus either.

Bring back blaming buses for bus accidents again

Cars are the most dangerous things on the road. Take for example the insurance claim - it was the tree that jumped out at me.

A car is only dangerous when it is being driven."

Conspiracy ...what about stepping out from between ‘parked’ cars? Eh? Eh?

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By *innocentMan over a year ago

Littlehampton

People are too caught up in materialistic things like hair cuts and pubs, to understand there is a massive difference between an eradicative cure, and a 'vaccine'

A a flu jab doesn't make you immune.

PrEP does not make you immune.

Astra Zenica does not make you immune.

Do you never get a cold after flu jab?

Do you never wear a condom if on prep?

Yet everyone seems to want to go maskless and flood venues/parks/family, with no concern.

Odd.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

No vaccine is 100% effective in individuals or a population.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm about to have my second one on Tuesday. I've had covid in November last year and with my job, I was exposed to two clients with it in January. I didn't catch it again but I'm guessing my immunity was pretty high by then.

I don't think we'll ever feel 100% safe again until it is eradicated but that's doubtful

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'm about to have my second one on Tuesday. I've had covid in November last year and with my job, I was exposed to two clients with it in January. I didn't catch it again but I'm guessing my immunity was pretty high by then.

I don't think we'll ever feel 100% safe again until it is eradicated but that's doubtful "

I'll feel safe when it's as big a threat to UK life as measles. Which isn't, really.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've had both my Pfizers and feel perfectly safe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes I’ll feel safer. And prevent the virus from being transferred to other people. Doing my part to get us all out of this awful pandemic and hopefully soon we can all socialise again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We both had the first vaccine and two weeks later tested positive with the virus. We have both been ill with it; my husband was worse but is now slowly recovering.

We're due to have the second vaccine at the end of May...

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By *andSCouple over a year ago

Old London Town

"I feel much safer now after having my 2 jabs. I am aware I may still catch covid but also aware the symptoms will be much milder if I do."

We’ll feel much safer after we’ve had our second jab too. We’ll also be carrying an infra-red thermometer as a back-up just in case clubs don’t do temperature checks at the door.

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By *essysteveCouple over a year ago

ALICANTE AREA SPAIN

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

Do seatbelts give you 70 - 90% risk of major injury or death in a head on crash with another car, both travelling at 50mph(100 mph impact)? I bet the answer is less than 70% but I guess that have driven or have travelled in a car and have almost certainly travelled at 50mph on a single carriageway .............. what do you think the outcome would be? travelling in a car is a high risk but we mostly all do it

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

So that would be protecting others then? If it doesn't spread as easily?

Yes

Except in this magical land where if something isn't 100% perfect it's 100% useless

"
People are becoming more stupid all over the westerm world,I blame the internet

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By *ornyone30Man over a year ago

ABERDEEN

Contraception isn't 100%, do you feel safe using it?

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By *abriellajackCouple over a year ago

Newport

Surely the only figures that matter are the serious illness (hospital admission) and death? Mild illness is surely irrelevant. We each suffer with a number of mild illnesses such as the common cold each year. It's part of life and certainly no reason to impact our abilities to live our lives as we choose.

We have supported the lockdowns and think the vaccination programme has been incredible but if the data shows serious illness is virtually eradicated following vaccination (appreciate there will always be the odd exception) then we simply have to go back to normal.

If people choose to manage their social interactions differently or wear masks then that's a personal choice but the days of enforced distancing, mask wearing and lockdowns are surely coming to an end.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"Surely the only figures that matter are the serious illness (hospital admission) and death? Mild illness is surely irrelevant. We each suffer with a number of mild illnesses such as the common cold each year. It's part of life and certainly no reason to impact our abilities to live our lives as we choose.

It partly depends on what is classified as well as what we individually think of as serious illness - and how we get access to the information needed to recognise its prevalence.

Long Covid is something that can follow what may have been thought of as a mild infection. It can continue for months, possibly years - it's too early to know yet and we don't have a great understanding of it.

The virus is peculiar, it can hit our organs, potentially in a way that's not known at the time.

As you stated, it's great that vaccination, coupled with restrictions, has allowed us to get infection levels really down - it's a substantial success, especially compared with how things were just a few months ago.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think people are looking to different things here.

Will I be ok? Will others be ok?

The odds are I'd be ok.

I'm not worried about me. If I were only thinking about myself I'd be going hog wild and doing wtf I wanted.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I've read figures of between 1.1 million and 2 million people with long Covid in the UK alone. Does that not matter? Disability toll? (More NHS workload and less taxes, if we have to reduce it to economics)

And that's not just old people - that can include children.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic."
this

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

In some ways the success this far of the vaccination programme needs to be backed up with such things as controls in social events and for travel etc..

Particularly for the age groups not yet vaccinated, whilst some will opt out and that's fine if we end up with high percentages of under thirties for example not vaccinated we will end up starting again when newer varients appear..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

Yes I will feel safer but know the risks

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"
Life is a risk mate having the 2 jabs certainly cuts that risk down, just like looking both ways when you cross the road as opposed to not doing that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And that's not just old people - that can include children."

Just as Covid has a wide spectrum of symptoms, so does Long Covid

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By *andR510Couple over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

Weird that CFS seems to be very similar to long covid. Let's see how the numbers shape up in the future.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?

Yes I will feel safer but know the risks "

After having covid last may I know the risks I still have not taste or smell second jab on Wednesday work with general public so even after second jab will still social distance and wear mask better to be safe than sorry

Have good day all

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Weird that CFS seems to be very similar to long covid. Let's see how the numbers shape up in the future. "

There's a working hypothesis that CFS is a Long (Other Virus).

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By *otsossieMan over a year ago

local, but not too local

"Weird that CFS seems to be very similar to long covid. Let's see how the numbers shape up in the future.

There's a working hypothesis that CFS is a Long (Other Virus)."

Was discussing this with GP last week - there are at least 4 common viruses which can cause similar long term symptoms.

I’m hoping it’s just the manopause in my case.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Weird that CFS seems to be very similar to long covid. Let's see how the numbers shape up in the future.

There's a working hypothesis that CFS is a Long (Other Virus).

Was discussing this with GP last week - there are at least 4 common viruses which can cause similar long term symptoms.

I’m hoping it’s just the manopause in my case. "

Whatever you have, I hope you find the help you need.

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By *otsossieMan over a year ago

local, but not too local

Thanks. Caffeine alone isn’t sorting it.

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

And that's not just old people - that can include children."

Post viral syndrome can occur with most viruses, but let's face it officially there have been 4.25 million cases in the uk, so your lower figure suggests one in four the higher one in two have long covid. To me that is complete nonsense and is a made up figure, ( not by you, I'm not getting at you )

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

And that's not just old people - that can include children.

I take your point, and thank you for not making it about me. My one point would be - in the first wave testing was hard/impossible to get outside of hospital. Therefore official case figures will be an undercount.

Estimates I've seen separately for long Covid have been somewhere in the region of one in ten.

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan over a year ago

Southern England

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

How can at best be between a difference of 20%. Makes no sense.

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

And that's not just old people - that can include children.

Estimates I've seen separately for long Covid have been somewhere in the region of one in ten."

I think sometimes the press and even some experts make up figures to get attention or sell papers.

In my industry we had a couple of experts predicting hundreds of thousands of deaths from Nvcjd, so far nearly forty years on less than 200 have lost their lives. I always try and use logic to think and query numbers, I'm sure some will suffer quite badly from long covid, others a few annoying problems and others will claim every ache and pain as it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

3 out of 4 jabs here... one to go

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

Better than no protection at all.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

And that's not just old people - that can include children.

Estimates I've seen separately for long Covid have been somewhere in the region of one in ten.

I think sometimes the press and even some experts make up figures to get attention or sell papers.

I don't know.

But I think it shows it's something to consider beyond death or hospital. I don't want people to suffer medium to permanent impairment either.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS over a year ago

Bedford

All the figures tell me is there are less people for the virus to kill than 4 months ago and 1 year ago, the damage has been done.

The virus is still affecting the rest of the world quite badly.

It's not over yet.

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

I just got my first jab and for someone who hates needles that is a huge thing.

However a little prick means if I help save my parents lives or help myself if I become ill so I don’t have to be looked after then that is a good thing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And that's not just old people - that can include children.

Estimates I've seen separately for long Covid have been somewhere in the region of one in ten.

I think sometimes the press and even some experts make up figures to get attention or sell papers.

Nvcjd-took years to develop and at the time nobody was sure how many people were actually exposed to prion proteins so they certainly invoked the precautionary principle as a result.

The time scale of Covid and LC takes much less time to develop and studies in many countries have showed LC figures.

It should not be surprising as SARS 1 caused similar long term effects albeit on a relatively small number of people.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple over a year ago

Coventry

If you look at the history of pandemics they don't need 100% immunity in the population to die out. Generally just a reasonably high level of immunity with in the population will do the job.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I just got my first jab and for someone who hates needles that is a huge thing.

However a little prick means if I help save my parents lives or help myself if I become ill so I don’t have to be looked after then that is a good thing

Brave soldier. Did they give you a lollipop.?

Hey only teasing I am needle phobic myself and had to have someone look after me for a few hours.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"All the figures tell me is there are less people for the virus to kill than 4 months ago and 1 year ago, the damage has been done.

The virus is still affecting the rest of the world quite badly.

It's not over yet."

Today's R rate and infections have a big leap... So... Youre right. We aren't out of the woods yet.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"All the figures tell me is there are less people for the virus to kill than 4 months ago and 1 year ago, the damage has been done.

The virus is still affecting the rest of the world quite badly.

It's not over yet.

Today's R rate and infections have a big leap... So... Youre right. We aren't out of the woods yet. "

Also don't understand how on "the numbers" the days infections have increased every day for 5 days and yet still showing as a decrease on the website?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All the figures tell me is there are less people for the virus to kill than 4 months ago and 1 year ago, the damage has been done.

The virus is still affecting the rest of the world quite badly.

It's not over yet.

Today's R rate and infections have a big leap... So... Youre right. We aren't out of the woods yet.

Also don't understand how on "the numbers" the days infections have increased every day for 5 days and yet still showing as a decrease on the website? "

Because the 7 day average is taken off date of sample not date reported.

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

Had 2nd jab today and feel relieved

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By *ldaCouple over a year ago

sutton Coldfield

Where do you get your figures from? From the govt dashboard, 13 deaths today. Not really a leap

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"All the figures tell me is there are less people for the virus to kill than 4 months ago and 1 year ago, the damage has been done.

The virus is still affecting the rest of the world quite badly.

It's not over yet.

Today's R rate and infections have a big leap... So... Youre right. We aren't out of the woods yet.

Also don't understand how on "the numbers" the days infections have increased every day for 5 days and yet still showing as a decrease on the website?

Because the 7 day average is taken off date of sample not date reported."

No there are 2 sets of data. The second one is date reported and shows green and a decrease despite increasing for 5 days running

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All the figures tell me is there are less people for the virus to kill than 4 months ago and 1 year ago, the damage has been done.

The virus is still affecting the rest of the world quite badly.

It's not over yet.

Today's R rate and infections have a big leap... So... Youre right. We aren't out of the woods yet.

Also don't understand how on "the numbers" the days infections have increased every day for 5 days and yet still showing as a decrease on the website?

Because the 7 day average is taken off date of sample not date reported.

No there are 2 sets of data. The second one is date reported and shows green and a decrease despite increasing for 5 days running"

Date reported is the least accurate measurement, especially after a bank holiday weekend.

The 7 day average on when the samples were actually taken is much more accurate.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"All the figures tell me is there are less people for the virus to kill than 4 months ago and 1 year ago, the damage has been done.

The virus is still affecting the rest of the world quite badly.

It's not over yet.

Today's R rate and infections have a big leap... So... Youre right. We aren't out of the woods yet.

Also don't understand how on "the numbers" the days infections have increased every day for 5 days and yet still showing as a decrease on the website?

Because the 7 day average is taken off date of sample not date reported.

No there are 2 sets of data. The second one is date reported and shows green and a decrease despite increasing for 5 days running"

Because it's still lower than the previous 7 days.

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By *iger4uWoman over a year ago

In my happy place

No vaccine is 100%

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

"I just got my first jab and for someone who hates needles that is a huge thing.

However a little prick means if I help save my parents lives or help myself if I become ill so I don’t have to be looked after then that is a good thing

Brave soldier. Did they give you a lollipop.?

Hey only teasing I am needle phobic myself and had to have someone look after me for a few hours. "

Tbh I have felt like death warmed up today - went to gym now. Then within 2 hours body felt like I had the flu . Had to finish work as feel like I have a head cold

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"No vaccine is 100%"

And yet we're generally safe from most of the things

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I just got my first jab and for someone who hates needles that is a huge thing.

However a little prick means if I help save my parents lives or help myself if I become ill so I don’t have to be looked after then that is a good thing

Brave soldier. Did they give you a lollipop.?

Hey only teasing I am needle phobic myself and had to have someone look after me for a few hours.

Tbh I have felt like death warmed up today - went to gym now. Then within 2 hours body felt like I had the flu . Had to finish work as feel like I have a head cold "

I barely got out of bed yesterday. It was a lot

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Were curious if anyone understands how vaccine and a vaccination actually works, vaccination does not mean you will won’t get the virus, it means that the effects of the virus will be less aggressive, that your body on receiving the vaccine creates an immune response that when the body comes into contact with the virus it reacts quicker to get rid of the virus. Example the flu vaccine is decided one year in advance based on what they think it will turn into, sometimes they get it right sometime they don’t, but it doesn’t stop you catching it. If you have had it and have no symptoms, your immune system is working well, your body will remember that and if you come into contact with it again your immune system should deal With it as if you were vaccinated. Same as masks do not stop you catching it, if your vulnerable stay home, get support from people. I mean would put your life into something thats been made in a sweat shop for less than a penny to save your life, that’s what we have been told, and made to fear. Wearing a mask promotes, touching your face much more, just watch any interview on tv and count how many time the mask gets touched.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I had my second phizer jab today and feel absolutely fine.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Were curious if anyone understands how vaccine and a vaccination actually works, vaccination does not mean you will won’t get the virus, it means that the effects of the virus will be less aggressive, that your body on receiving the vaccine creates an immune response that when the body comes into contact with the virus it reacts quicker to get rid of the virus. Example the flu vaccine is decided one year in advance based on what they think it will turn into, sometimes they get it right sometime they don’t, but it doesn’t stop you catching it. If you have had it and have no symptoms, your immune system is working well, your body will remember that and if you come into contact with it again your immune system should deal With it as if you were vaccinated. Same as masks do not stop you catching it, if your vulnerable stay home, get support from people. I mean would put your life into something thats been made in a sweat shop for less than a penny to save your life, that’s what we have been told, and made to fear. Wearing a mask promotes, touching your face much more, just watch any interview on tv and count how many time the mask gets touched. "

Wearing a mask protects others from us. It stops the spread of water droplets and vapour that transport the virus when we breath, cough, laugh, talk etc. Don't think it works? Put on a mask and try blowing out a candle.

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

Negativity breeds contempt.

We all have a part to play in this so whether it’s 70% or we need to keep wearing masks, then the doubters will be our downfall.

Keep positive, all do what we can and raise everyone’s chances.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I do in fact understand how vaccination works, which is why I've been vaccinated.

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By *hatawasteMan over a year ago

stafford

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

1 or 2 jabs good

No jabs bad

But no jabs are better than others all jabs are the same.. The jabees however..

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By *hatawasteMan over a year ago

stafford

I'm a bit confused.. Your post suggests you don't believe the science? This is one thing F the world's biggest experiments in history.. More stuff has gone into this than finding a cure for cancer so there has to be some truth in it and something we can cling on to right?

If not it's the biggest con in history.. And a lot would have been had by it..

Masks.. That's simple don't buy ' face coverings' with trendy /footy /band logos on and wear them every day without replacing them

Wear proper surgical 3 layer ones and throw them away once you get home.. Then it doesn't matter how many times you touch your face

Its a bit like the saying.. There's no such thing as bad weather.. Just the wrong clothes..

End of the day all this is an experiment mankind has had pushed on it.. And we are just doing the best we can and believing a combination of science and the facts and evidence that come from it that we see every say

Either way.. One way or another in 2 or 3 years we will know how it all panned out.. Till then it's a case of suck it and see..

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

But no jabs does mean 100% least this way you can get a positive response from a negative attitude

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don’t get me wrong, I believe in vaccines - tried and proven which takes normally 7+ years, which cannot be hurried, if vaccine companies get it wrong they are immune from prosecution, for that very reason.

As for masks you just need to stand in a street or shop, not many triple layered surgical masks to be seen, so most masks are so about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

Oh there is such a thing as bad weather, but the right clothing is what will keep you alive when your in bad weather, would you risk going to the Climb Mount Everest in clothing that has been tested in hurry .... I would be certainly thinking about my choice and checking the weather a lot

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By *ustbelfastMan over a year ago

Belfast

Haven't got the jab, don't particularly plan on it. All far too rushed and will not be bullied into blind faith

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Don’t get me wrong, I believe in vaccines - tried and proven which takes normally 7+ years, which cannot be hurried, if vaccine companies get it wrong they are immune from prosecution, for that very reason.

As for masks you just need to stand in a street or shop, not many triple layered surgical masks to be seen, so most masks are so about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

You are still misunderstanding what the primary purpose of mask are. While the wearer get some protection, it's the people around him that benefits. Like I said, put on the worst mask and try to blow out a candle. Mask traps the water droplets that carries the virus to other people.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Haven't got the jab, don't particularly plan on it. All far too rushed and will not be bullied into blind faith"

Fortunately there's science. No need for faith.

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By *ustbelfastMan over a year ago

Belfast

As another poster said, we don't even know what the effects on the body 12 months after the jab are. Far too untested for "facts"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I understand about masks- yes the virus is on the breath water vapour, however wearing the same mask all day, quite quickly the mask is saturated, then it cannot hold any more, I wear glasses - the fog up with a mask, the mask mostly changes the direction. It only takes one cell of virus to enter body to catch it. Again for clarity the mask does not stop it. It just changes the direction in which the air that is breathed out.

However breathing in pulls the mask towards your face most air only travelling in through the mask - if it fits well, so you are not wearing a mask for others but for yourself, so if you have had the vaccine or covid do you need a mask ..... interesting thought.

As for masks you just need to stand in a street or shop, not many triple layered surgical masks to be seen, so most masks are so about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"I understand about masks- yes the virus is on the breath water vapour, however wearing the same mask all day, quite quickly the mask is saturated, then it cannot hold any more, I wear glasses - the fog up with a mask, the mask mostly changes the direction. It only takes one cell of virus to enter body to catch it. Again for clarity the mask does not stop it. It just changes the direction in which the air that is breathed out.

But direction does matter doesn't it? If I turn away from you and sneeze, then I am projecting those germs in a different direction.

Also, viral load is a thing. Infection with few viruses gives the infected person a better chance of fighting it off. So masks are not a panacea but another tool in the kit. Every person not infected is a person not passing it on to others. We can't make the perfect the enemy of the good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Masks may well do as much a help stop transmit it and protect you, as much as not helping with a all the touching of faces and then touching items in the shops, not changing them and not using correct ones, the positive of a mask is outweighed by the lack of correct procedure of use.

If anyone has a comprehensive data to absolute show masks stopped COVID I would be interested to read it, where a mask is worn a whole day. As to date I didn’t find a clinical trial yet. I would be interested.an honest interest.

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By *hatawasteMan over a year ago

stafford

As for masks you just need to stand in a street or shop, not many triple layered surgical masks to be seen, so most masks are so about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

Actually I would be risking it yes despite length of trial etc.. That's why I was happy to take the vaccine..I checked the weather B t I couldn't be bothered to check it every day.. Doesn't make much difference to me

Course not everyone is the same..

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

As for masks you just need to stand in a street or shop, not many triple layered surgical masks to be seen, so most masks are so about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

Would you rather climb the mountain with clothing that experienced tailors and climbers had tested and created, that will give you up to 90% protection, or run up Everest naked?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a fit 60yo male data analyst with good access to NHS/WHO/ONS datat, no vulnerabilities and who's had it with very little effect and then totally failed to catch it from my partner (despite very intimate contact right up till we realised she had it) I felt perfectly safe without any vaccine and much more at risk from other threat factors such as motorcycle related accidents, potential to fall from height, etc where I certainly feel that I have to take active steps all the time to prevent death or serious injury. In 15 years or so when I start to get into the vulnerable category I might see a need to have it. At the moment my biggest health worry is the 'Covid stone' that Govt policy has left me with, despite my best efforts to avoid it, and the increased risk of heart disease, etc that comes with it.

Bear in mind the question was only about what I feel in relation to my own health, therefore other reasons to take the vaccine related to the good of others, herd immunity, etc, are not relevant.

RE As for masks you just need to stand in a street or shop, not many triple layered surgical masks to be seen, so most masks are so about as much use as a chocolate fire guard

Most masks will not be as good as a triple layered surgical one, but that doesn't make them useless, or even ineffectual. If you sneeze into one most of it will be absorbed into even the leakiest mask so by definition only a small proportion escapes into the air, which must be better than the whole lot just flying out. That shouldn't be interpreted as a reason to keep wearing them for ever though!

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By *iobhan123Woman over a year ago

Deal

97% with both Pfizer doses, according to the data today

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The more people are vaccinated, the safer we'll all be. Herd immunity.

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"Haven't got the jab, don't particularly plan on it. All far too rushed and will not be bullied into blind faith"
so you don't want to be protected from symptoms of covid or passing to others? It's proved to be save and 97% effective

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"The more people are vaccinated, the safer we'll all be. Herd immunity."
well said

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By *rMrs84Couple over a year ago

Doncaster

Yes I do at this stage, but only because of the overall uptake. I don’t believe it’s 100% but nothing is. We’re going for herd immunity people not individual immunity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Always did feel safe , only reason ive had the jab and now waiting for the second ,is we want to go on holiday ...

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

"The more people are vaccinated, the safer we'll all be. Herd immunity."

This and whilst no vacinne protects from transmission 100% the effect on reducing the impact of the virus if you do catch it is a no brainer.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm fully vaccinated and proud,couldn't give a fuck about people who refuse it anymore its there choice

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Had both jabs second made me very ill had it last week still not right they said it was probably because I had Covid last may and it should stop soon it also could be meds I’m taking that’s an issue as well

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"I'm fully vaccinated and proud,couldn't give a fuck about people who refuse it anymore its there choice "
same here, when ppl don't want to meet them because they refused jab soon moaning can't get a meet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

How many more times is this one going to pop up?

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By *iobhan123Woman over a year ago

Deal

97% protection after 2 Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines

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By *not123Couple over a year ago

sp1

Just had 2nd pfizer today will feel so much safer in 3 weeks

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple over a year ago

Swansea

"I'm fully vaccinated and proud,couldn't give a fuck about people who refuse it anymore its there choice "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Had my second jab Tuesday but will still wear a mask when im out as ive done from the start i remember Drakeford saying no need to wear masks in shops

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By *ob08Man over a year ago

Macclesfield

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

Seriously now, where are you getting these stats from? Facebook? That well known source of truth? Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

After two jabs its generally between 90-97% protection which is extremely good as no vaccine will be 100%

But yeah I will feel safer compared to not having it.

Just as I feel better checking my balls in the shower for lumps

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

2 jabs of pfizer, 97% protected, pub next week, see good friends in 3 weeks... Doom and gloomers can do one

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"
97% and yes I feel safe

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS over a year ago

doncaster

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"
actually the study's show that the Pfizer double dose gives 97% protection

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By *rank speakerMan over a year ago

Worcester

"Receiving 2 jabs only protects one person.

It only protects the person accepting the jabs.

It does lower, but does NOT STOP distribution of the disease / flu / pandemic.

Neither do any of the other jabs we have.

Which is why everyone I know had measles as a child - no wait, no they didn't."

Does anyone remember that killer called polio? Again something that's still out in nature but fortunately not the threat to humans it once was. If a vaccination doesn't make you bullet proof it certainly lowers the odds considerably and makes the effects much less devastating. I've had two now and feel much more confident about stepping outside my door than I have since this pernicious virus emerged.(still wearing a mask and distancing though,just in case,and will do so till I feel the odds of catching have dropped sufficiently. )

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By *ausageNmashCouple over a year ago

Andover

"I'll feel safer when I've had two jabs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My site is working with Moderna... We need as many people vaccinated as possible

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By *onnie 90Woman over a year ago

Leeds

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?"

When I received my first jab (AZ) I was told by the nurse that it would provide between 50-70% protection after three weeks. She explained that obviously that would rise after I have my booster which I'm proud to announce I'm having in two days time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?

Had both jabs but take Immunosuppressive drugs so all in I reckon 30 to 40% protection for me.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Do people feel they'll be safe after 2 vaccine jabs of AZ when it at best only offers 70-possibly 90% efficacy?

Had both jabs but take Immunosuppressive drugs so all in I reckon 30 to 40% protection for me."

Better than a kick in the testicles!

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple over a year ago

North fife

With the new Indian variant I can see restrictions tightening again as it looks like the vaccine we have all been running to may not cover this.

The problem here is that we have an ongoing health crisis lead by a tory party that is untrustworthy and indecisive,

We simply do not trust anything they say, remember Xmas last year, then we will not shit schools on to shut them one day after they went back.

Social distancing and masks will be with us for a while... Regardless what the government states and tried to sell you... And that is what they are salesmen of pipe dreams, they do not speak with clarity and of truth. We need to get used to it. I'm afraid to say the vaccine will not allow us our freedom back. It will allow part of it back.

Politics and health do not mix well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With the new Indian variant I can see restrictions tightening again as it looks like the vaccine we have all been running to may not cover this.

The problem here is that we have an ongoing health crisis lead by a tory party that is untrustworthy and indecisive,

We simply do not trust anything they say, remember Xmas last year, then we will not shit schools on to shut them one day after they went back.

Politics and health do not mix well.

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