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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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anyone in that area witness what went on? Seemed like a pressure cooker of a year just went off. Seemed to be a million miles from other scenes in London where people were all relaxing peacefully in parks seemingly. id love the guy who was seen climbing up a tree and then trying to break the upper bough of it by leaning on it as a melee insured beneath him to be shamed as being a prize nob.
the beach we went to to watch the sunset was so peaceful. and this is the crux some people will use the rules to blow off steam others to escape in more serene ways |
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I was horrified but not surprised. Infection rates in the younger age group are increasing again in Nottingham but people behaving like that just don't seem to care. I get that people are fed up with restrictions but we've seen behaviour like this in Nottingham throughout lockdown.
I'm sure the Easter weekend will be just the same! Yesterday there were large gatherings near one of the vaccination centres. Last week the same centre had to be closed early due to a protest.
It's bloody infuriating |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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They said on the news that it was students, there is enough footage about the universities should have a word with the guilty ones and put some pressure on them to act like responsible people (i wanted to put adults but that was far from adult behaviour).I bet their parents are really proud of them.  |
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"They said on the news that it was students, there is enough footage about the universities should have a word with the guilty ones and put some pressure on them to act like responsible people (i wanted to put adults but that was far from adult behaviour).I bet their parents are really proud of them. "
The news likes to blame students and I agree there were lots there. However, I suspect many of them were just young people from the area too. Doesn't matter how they're labelled, what they're doing is selfish x |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"it was like the start of a grandprix .........if we continue like the scenes i saw yesterday groups/crowds from all generations i can see us back in lockdown or new restrictions ,,,,,,"
Sadly true
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
The majority of them were students: that area has thousands of them in accommodation there. (Nottingham hosts some 60000 plus students a year)
Not only did they break covid rules, some also broke the "no alcohol in public places" rule as well.
Nottingham has its own dedicated task force breaking up many nightly parties, and has had to put in place weekend public dispersal orders recently. |
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If you check out social media you will find this kind of thing happens all over the country, I'm not sure to what extent but it was certainly more than was called for, but who can blame them now, as long as it was peaceful and trying to conform to restrictions people need a bit of happiness now.
The media seemed to have jumped on the Nottingham story. I'm sure it's not all bad and as usual one or two idiot spoil it for the majority. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
It’s been like it for weeks not just arboretum but forest rec. We run there and for most of lockdown it’s been busy with sport, picnics, cafes, food vans etc same as the country parks and outdoor markets but last few weeks been lots of large gatherings, even the food cans at the weekend were so busy 1-2 hour waiting. The councils also opened the basketball courts ages ago and tennis courts this week so even busier than normal |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"I am guessing you didn't see the footage Thetributeking. You are right though, it happened in other parts of the country too"
What are they meant to do ? If all the bars are closed and the only cafes open are in parks then it’s a no brainier what will happen. These people are t at risk otherwise they would be getting vaccines |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am guessing you didn't see the footage Thetributeking. You are right though, it happened in other parts of the country too
What are they meant to do ? If all the bars are closed and the only cafes open are in parks then it’s a no brainier what will happen. These people are t at risk otherwise they would be getting vaccines "
EVERYBODY is at risk - it’s just that older people and people with underlying health conditions are deemed at higher risk of the virus being FATAL to them.
Also - the can contract Covid and pass it on to somebody WHO is vulnerable - we need to remember that no vaccine is 100% and we’ve already seen viruses mutate - basically to “survive”.
The “I/we/they aren’t at risk attitude is exactly why we’ve had the yo-yo effect with the reinfection rate and jumping in and out of lockdowns. |
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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago
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It is a no brainer.......
Covid is spiking in Europe and it wont be long before before we start to notice an increase over here.
Therefore if large crowds start gathering and socially distance is not maintained Another Lockdown will happen |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I am guessing you didn't see the footage Thetributeking. You are right though, it happened in other parts of the country too
What are they meant to do ? If all the bars are closed and the only cafes open are in parks then it’s a no brainier what will happen. These people are t at risk otherwise they would be getting vaccines "
I didn't give me view one way or another, I was answering a persons post who said one or two may have been breaking rules
I am not giving my view as I am tired of having to explain to people that they are not sticking to what we should be doing. I don't think because people can't have a drink in a pub that they should break the rules in a park
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Think what frustrates me the most being a local is the attitude we have been inside for a year so just want to meet with folk.
I’ve been inside for a year and worked right through but my first thought is not to go to a park and get pissed!
I went past recreation ground last night on bus and there were hundreds on there so they’ve just moved from one spot to the next. Impossible for police to monitor fully! |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
That looked like some kind of organised mass gathering.
Young adults seem to think they are invincible and don't seem to understand how they can pass the virus on.
I know they have been cooped up for a long time and need to let off steam, but they were irresponsible.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year."
Surely the same goes for all of us...being 18, 19 or 20 doesn't mean you have the monopoly on wanting to live your life |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am guessing you didn't see the footage Thetributeking. You are right though, it happened in other parts of the country too
What are they meant to do ? If all the bars are closed and the only cafes open are in parks then it’s a no brainier what will happen. These people are t at risk otherwise they would be getting vaccines
EVERYBODY is at risk - it’s just that older people and people with underlying health conditions are deemed at higher risk of the virus being FATAL to them.
Also - the can contract Covid and pass it on to somebody WHO is vulnerable - we need to remember that no vaccine is 100% and we’ve already seen viruses mutate - basically to “survive”.
The “I/we/they aren’t at risk attitude is exactly why we’ve had the yo-yo effect with the reinfection rate and jumping in and out of lockdowns. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Surely the same goes for all of us...being 18, 19 or 20 doesn't mean you have the monopoly on wanting to live your life"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well tbh one of the most outstanding things this past year has been the irresponsible attitude of young people
So fucking what if they can’t go clubbing for a bit
Who cares?
Tell me, why should I care about housing and job opportunities for young people when we see this? - tell you what when they behave like adults I’ll treat them as such |
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Surely the same goes for all of us...being 18, 19 or 20 doesn't mean you have the monopoly on wanting to live your life"
Like I said I'm not condoning it..but most of us did stupid things at that age.
That's just the age where you finally have that freedom to actually go out and be an adult and they have had a year took away from that. |
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"Well tbh one of the most outstanding things this past year has been the irresponsible attitude of young people
So fucking what if they can’t go clubbing for a bit
Who cares?
Tell me, why should I care about housing and job opportunities for young people when we see this? - tell you what when they behave like adults I’ll treat them as such "
I'm sure when you were 18 you did absolutely nothing wrong. |
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This is one year, the youngsters are no doubt frustrated and I emphasize with that but the longer people if all ages act like it's new years every cos there's a bit of sunshine and they simply have to get in it then the possibility is we all end up locked down mid summer..
Tbh once they're jabbed up they will party like mad and fair play but to jeopardize the situation now is daft.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Council have shut some parks in Nottingham now. Not fair for those who want to use them responsibly. "
Couldn’t agree more as a local it’s not great. Lucky enough to live down by the marina in beeston and thankfully that’s not too overcrowded. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Surely the same goes for all of us...being 18, 19 or 20 doesn't mean you have the monopoly on wanting to live your life"
Well said |
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"The Council have shut some parks in Nottingham now. Not fair for those who want to use them responsibly. "
Should have done that since yesterday! I live 15min away from the rec and oh my god it sounded like the Goose fair was back! A bunch of irresponsible nobheads! |
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"Well tbh one of the most outstanding things this past year has been the irresponsible attitude of young people
So fucking what if they can’t go clubbing for a bit
Who cares?
Tell me, why should I care about housing and job opportunities for young people when we see this? - tell you what when they behave like adults I’ll treat them as such "
Well i see different things. I see youngsters following the guidelines. More so than adults. I see youngsters who are doing everything that is asked of them. I see youngsters who are trying to work towards a levels that even now.... With only 3 months to go... Still have not been told what or how they will be assessed... And yet their future is dependednt on it. I see youngsters having their 18 birthdays and not being able to celebrate the milestone.
And I see people bastardising a generation. Because of some headlines. I think the day all of us old twats can look in the mirror and say we've followed every guideline at all times.... And yes they aren't the only ones to have had a crap year. But they deserve a bit of credit where they have done well. And many of them have done well so far. As for Nottingham and this story. Young or old, black or white, gay or straight, male or female they should feel the force of the law, exactly the same way as all this weddings and funerals and drinking schools and rangers and Liverpool fans and Wales Rugby fans felt the force of the law. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What I did not do is engage in r**e culture online, cheek and abuse my teachers and anyone else in authority, consistently moan about my lot ( and I grew up under Mrs Thatchers govt)
I had fun but I respected the fact that if a policeman told me to move on I did so
Finally I learnt that you have a responsibility to others in society - |
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"Well tbh one of the most outstanding things this past year has been the irresponsible attitude of young people
So fucking what if they can’t go clubbing for a bit
Who cares?
Tell me, why should I care about housing and job opportunities for young people when we see this? - tell you what when they behave like adults I’ll treat them as such
Well i see different things. I see youngsters following the guidelines. More so than adults. I see youngsters who are doing everything that is asked of them. I see youngsters who are trying to work towards a levels that even now.... With only 3 months to go... Still have not been told what or how they will be assessed... And yet their future is dependednt on it. I see youngsters having their 18 birthdays and not being able to celebrate the milestone.
And I see people bastardising a generation. Because of some headlines. I think the day all of us old twats can look in the mirror and say we've followed every guideline at all times.... And yes they aren't the only ones to have had a crap year. But they deserve a bit of credit where they have done well. And many of them have done well so far. As for Nottingham and this story. Young or old, black or white, gay or straight, male or female they should feel the force of the law, exactly the same way as all this weddings and funerals and drinking schools and rangers and Liverpool fans and Wales Rugby fans felt the force of the law. "
Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation. |
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"What I did not do is engage in r**e culture online, cheek and abuse my teachers and anyone else in authority, consistently moan about my lot ( and I grew up under Mrs Thatchers govt)
I had fun but I respected the fact that if a policeman told me to move on I did so
Finally I learnt that you have a responsibility to others in society - "
Neither do the overwhelming majority of young people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fair enough
Btw I suggest when you have a bit of spare time you ask some bus drivers who do the school runs what they think?
The security guard ( which we never needed) on duty at the local comp in case the teacher presses the alarm ask him/ her about kids
The metal detector installation guy who goes round school cuz of knife n gang culture
The parents of children caught up in gang violence in east London
The young girl who’s had abusive texts sent by kids who know no better
Sorry mate it’s endemic
And it’s no good quoting the child prodigy who is an exception either
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Well tbh one of the most outstanding things this past year has been the irresponsible attitude of young people
So fucking what if they can’t go clubbing for a bit
Who cares?
Tell me, why should I care about housing and job opportunities for young people when we see this? - tell you what when they behave like adults I’ll treat them as such
Well i see different things. I see youngsters following the guidelines. More so than adults. I see youngsters who are doing everything that is asked of them. I see youngsters who are trying to work towards a levels that even now.... With only 3 months to go... Still have not been told what or how they will be assessed... And yet their future is dependednt on it. I see youngsters having their 18 birthdays and not being able to celebrate the milestone.
And I see people bastardising a generation. Because of some headlines. I think the day all of us old twats can look in the mirror and say we've followed every guideline at all times.... And yes they aren't the only ones to have had a crap year. But they deserve a bit of credit where they have done well. And many of them have done well so far. As for Nottingham and this story. Young or old, black or white, gay or straight, male or female they should feel the force of the law, exactly the same way as all this weddings and funerals and drinking schools and rangers and Liverpool fans and Wales Rugby fans felt the force of the law. "
yeah this |
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"Fair enough
Btw I suggest when you have a bit of spare time you ask some bus drivers who do the school runs what they think?
The security guard ( which we never needed) on duty at the local comp in case the teacher presses the alarm ask him/ her about kids
The metal detector installation guy who goes round school cuz of knife n gang culture
The parents of children caught up in gang violence in east London
The young girl who’s had abusive texts sent by kids who know no better
Sorry mate it’s endemic
And it’s no good quoting the child prodigy who is an exception either
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Whenever there is a story in the local paper about a nonce they are invariably some fella in his 50/60s
By that logic most people on that age bracket are paedophiles. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well if that’s what you consider yourself to be by your logic as you are 49 then so be it
All I’ve said here is that there is a great disparity between how myself and my peers behaved vis a vis today’s generation
Frankly today’s 18 to 25 year olds by and large are just shite to the extent so many remedial measures have to be put in place for them |
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"Well if that’s what you consider yourself to be by your logic as you are 49 then so be it
All I’ve said here is that there is a great disparity between how myself and my peers behaved vis a vis today’s generation
Frankly today’s 18 to 25 year olds by and large are just shite to the extent so many remedial measures have to be put in place for them"
You realise every single generation says that?
Their biggest crime is that shite music they listen too. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Surely the same goes for all of us...being 18, 19 or 20 doesn't mean you have the monopoly on wanting to live your life
Like I said I'm not condoning it..but most of us did stupid things at that age.
That's just the age where you finally have that freedom to actually go out and be an adult and they have had a year took away from that."
Mr ruggers retired last year, we had lots of plans but had our freedom took away from us too...we are all in the same boat but most of us have stuck to what we should be doing so that we can hopefully get through this.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation."
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"Well if that’s what you consider yourself to be by your logic as you are 49 then so be it
All I’ve said here is that there is a great disparity between how myself and my peers behaved vis a vis today’s generation
Frankly today’s 18 to 25 year olds by and large are just shite to the extent so many remedial measures have to be put in place for them"
I am even older, it was a different time altogether, if you did do something wrong you would have consequences mainly from your own parents....now it seems to be do something you shouldn't and someone will make an excuse for it.
I don't have an issue with anyone of any age going out and enjoying the lovely weather, I just think it should be done as safely as you can , we really don't want to go back into another lockdown |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What most don't understand is that most of these kids do not intend to be "jabbed up" they realise what's in these experimental jabs and will not have it. They've had their education f'd up and made to stay indoors for 12 months with the government constantly lying and extending lockdowns.
I don't blame them at all. |
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation.
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
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So you see a news video and can confidently assess the age of everyone in the park who is "misbehaving" that's a good skill to have. We just can't stop ourselves at times. |
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over a year ago
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What I understand is that they are free to decline vaccination- also, if they think the uk is such an oppressive, lying regime they are free to leave once things get back to normal
Not going?
Thought not
Maybe cuz in some parts of the world if you spat on a pensioner ( say on armistice day) which I’ve witnessed you’d be in the shit unlike here
Cuz you see that sort of behaviour shows a disdain for society. Most kids keep it hidden but it does show through esp this last 13 months
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation.
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
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But posters making sweeping generalisations like they are all like that.
The thread is littered with them
'Why should I care about them when they dont'
People of all ages have broken the rules. |
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"What I understand is that they are free to decline vaccination- also, if they think the uk is such an oppressive, lying regime they are free to leave once things get back to normal
Not going?
Thought not
Maybe cuz in some parts of the world if you spat on a pensioner ( say on armistice day) which I’ve witnessed you’d be in the shit unlike here
Cuz you see that sort of behaviour shows a disdain for society. Most kids keep it hidden but it does show through esp this last 13 months
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You are literally picking out extreme examples
How many pensioners have done horrible things?xx |
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"What most don't understand is that most of these kids do not intend to be "jabbed up" they realise what's in these experimental jabs and will not have it. They've had their education f'd up and made to stay indoors for 12 months with the government constantly lying and extending lockdowns.
I don't blame them at all. "
Again I'm not sure how you get your information to generalise. The ones I know can't wait to get their vaccine as it will allow them to get to reading festival or on a flight to kavos or ibiza in the summer.
I have no doubt there is good and bad in all age groups. All kids and youngsters are not feral selfish fools.
Some age groups get a lot more out of the lock downs than others. The younger you are the lower your risk the less you get from it. |
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"What I understand is that they are free to decline vaccination- also, if they think the uk is such an oppressive, lying regime they are free to leave once things get back to normal
Not going?
Thought not
Maybe cuz in some parts of the world if you spat on a pensioner ( say on armistice day) which I’ve witnessed you’d be in the shit unlike here
Cuz you see that sort of behaviour shows a disdain for society. Most kids keep it hidden but it does show through esp this last 13 months
You are literally picking out extreme examples
How many pensioners have done horrible things?xx"
Fuck knows what the kisses wee for |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation.
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
So you see a news video and can confidently assess the age of everyone in the park who is "misbehaving" that's a good skill to have. We just can't stop ourselves at times. "
Could you not see how old the people seem from a news report? I don't think it is a skill, more an observation |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation.
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
But posters making sweeping generalisations like they are all like that.
The thread is littered with them
'Why should I care about them when they dont'
People of all ages have broken the rules."
You have just proved my point. Discussing one subject then trying to deflect it to something else is the bit I don't understand why people have to do
Saying the people in the parks yesterday not social distancing and leaving all their rubbish when they leave is not saying older that older people may not break rules, it is saying at that point younger people were
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation.
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
But posters making sweeping generalisations like they are all like that.
The thread is littered with them
'Why should I care about them when they dont'
People of all ages have broken the rules.
You have just proved my point. Discussing one subject then trying to deflect it to something else is the bit I don't understand why people have to do
Saying the people in the parks yesterday not social distancing and leaving all their rubbish when they leave is not saying older that older people may not break rules, it is saying at that point younger people were
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Not really.
I said in my 1st point I wasnt condoning their behaviour.it was more the preachy nature of some of the posts.
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"They said on the news that it was students, there is enough footage about the universities should have a word with the guilty ones and put some pressure on them to act like responsible people (i wanted to put adults but that was far from adult behaviour).I bet their parents are really proud of them. "
Absolutely, we had the same situation in Birmingham yesterday. The Universities need to start taking some action . |
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation.
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
So you see a news video and can confidently assess the age of everyone in the park who is "misbehaving" that's a good skill to have. We just can't stop ourselves at times.
Could you not see how old the people seem from a news report? I don't think it is a skill, more an observation"
A rather prejudiced one perhaps?
And to answer your question. No I wouldn't care to guess everyone's age in a park from a short news clip. Maybe 15 maybe 30... There's a big difference. I'm not defending lawlessness. I'm making a point that this thread has made very Liberal use of unsubstantiated gross generalisations. Slating an entire generation because 100 of them have notionally been videod in one part of the country for 5 minutes of their lives. I know some fantastic youngsters and I know some fucking idiots in their 50s... |
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year."
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
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"Well tbh one of the most outstanding things this past year has been the irresponsible attitude of young people
So fucking what if they can’t go clubbing for a bit
Who cares?
Tell me, why should I care about housing and job opportunities for young people when we see this? - tell you what when they behave like adults I’ll treat them as such "
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
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What has being blown to pieces got to do with anything?
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation.
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
So you see a news video and can confidently assess the age of everyone in the park who is "misbehaving" that's a good skill to have. We just can't stop ourselves at times.
Could you not see how old the people seem from a news report? I don't think it is a skill, more an observation
A rather prejudiced one perhaps?
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over a year ago
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Let’s get one thing straight
I’m not making generalisations
I have seen and witnessed some awful behaviour from young people,I’ve mentioned it here
Sorry there’s too much of it about for it to be classified as untypical
Picking extreme cases ? Don’t think so
Let’s list some more
The school kid telling a woman with a pram to fuck off cuz he’s on his bike n she’s in the way
The teenage drug dealer complete with buisness card shotting drugs in lunch time
Kids shouting down a teacher in class because their social skills are so poor that’s the only way they know how to communicate
Finally you what really stinks?
When you challenge their behaviour and get a mouthful of abuse - you ask them to come over and repeat it ( so you can give them one to the jaw) do they square up ? Not a chance off they run... little fucking cowards
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"Let’s get one thing straight
I’m not making generalisations
I have seen and witnessed some awful behaviour from young people,I’ve mentioned it here
Sorry there’s too much of it about for it to be classified as untypical
Picking extreme cases ? Don’t think so
Let’s list some more
The school kid telling a woman with a pram to fuck off cuz he’s on his bike n she’s in the way
The teenage drug dealer complete with buisness card shotting drugs in lunch time
Kids shouting down a teacher in class because their social skills are so poor that’s the only way they know how to communicate
Finally you what really stinks?
When you challenge their behaviour and get a mouthful of abuse - you ask them to come over and repeat it ( so you can give them one to the jaw) do they square up ? Not a chance off they run... little fucking cowards
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There isnt a lot to say to that tbh
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"Let’s get one thing straight
I’m not making generalisations
I have seen and witnessed some awful behaviour from young people,I’ve mentioned it here
Sorry there’s too much of it about for it to be classified as untypical
Picking extreme cases ? Don’t think so
Let’s list some more
The school kid telling a woman with a pram to fuck off cuz he’s on his bike n she’s in the way
The teenage drug dealer complete with buisness card shotting drugs in lunch time
Kids shouting down a teacher in class because their social skills are so poor that’s the only way they know how to communicate
Finally you what really stinks?
When you challenge their behaviour and get a mouthful of abuse - you ask them to come over and repeat it ( so you can give them one to the jaw) do they square up ? Not a chance off they run... little fucking cowards
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
What has being blown to pieces got to do with anything?
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Your post said to imagine being in that young age group and being licked down for a year.
I have pointed out that members of the same demographic have, as members of the armed forces, taken part in conflicts where they have lost their lives, many of them blown to pieces. So I’m pointing out that for people of that demographic there are worse things than being required to lockdown. And they were being locked down with, in the main, a roof over their heads, food in their stomach, sheltered from the cold and rain and with tv/satellite/Netflix/computer games/internet to distract them.
So I was saying at the same age I’d have considered being locked down less of an evil than some alternatives that people of that age have, and still are, faced/facing. |
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Well I don’t need to do that obviously
Cuz I’m not an apologist for young peoples bad behaviour,
Btw what’s your reaction if you saw an oap complete with medals getting abused by a bunch of kids
From your tone - fuck all |
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
What has being blown to pieces got to do with anything?
Your post said to imagine being in that young age group and being licked down for a year.
I have pointed out that members of the same demographic have, as members of the armed forces, taken part in conflicts where they have lost their lives, many of them blown to pieces. So I’m pointing out that for people of that demographic there are worse things than being required to lockdown. And they were being locked down with, in the main, a roof over their heads, food in their stomach, sheltered from the cold and rain and with tv/satellite/Netflix/computer games/internet to distract them.
So I was saying at the same age I’d have considered being locked down less of an evil than some alternatives that people of that age have, and still are, faced/facing. "
What does being in the army have to do with covid?
You make a decision to join the army. No one forces you.
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"Well I don’t need to do that obviously
Cuz I’m not an apologist for young peoples bad behaviour,
Btw what’s your reaction if you saw an oap complete with medals getting abused by a bunch of kids
From your tone - fuck all "
Well I've never seen it happen so I dont know
What would be your reaction of you saw an man in his 70s abuse a young girl?
You seem to be implying, acting like a #### is the preserve of the under 18s. |
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"Let’s get one thing straight
I’m not making generalisations
I have seen and witnessed some awful behaviour from young people,I’ve mentioned it here
Sorry there’s too much of it about for it to be classified as untypical
Picking extreme cases ? Don’t think so
Let’s list some more
The school kid telling a woman with a pram to fuck off cuz he’s on his bike n she’s in the way
The teenage drug dealer complete with buisness card shotting drugs in lunch time
Kids shouting down a teacher in class because their social skills are so poor that’s the only way they know how to communicate
Finally you what really stinks?
When you challenge their behaviour and get a mouthful of abuse - you ask them to come over and repeat it ( so you can give them one to the jaw) do they square up ? Not a chance off they run... little fucking cowards
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You can blame the kids as much as you want ....but maybe most of it lays on on the generation that's produced them !!!! |
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"Let’s get one thing straight
I’m not making generalisations
I have seen and witnessed some awful behaviour from young people,I’ve mentioned it here
Sorry there’s too much of it about for it to be classified as untypical
Picking extreme cases ? Don’t think so
Let’s list some more
The school kid telling a woman with a pram to fuck off cuz he’s on his bike n she’s in the way
The teenage drug dealer complete with buisness card shotting drugs in lunch time
Kids shouting down a teacher in class because their social skills are so poor that’s the only way they know how to communicate
Finally you what really stinks?
When you challenge their behaviour and get a mouthful of abuse - you ask them to come over and repeat it ( so you can give them one to the jaw) do they square up ? Not a chance off they run... little fucking cowards
You can blame the kids as much as you want ....but maybe most of it lays on on the generation that's produced them !!!! "
but then that involves looking at the mirror and intrestingly enough that is your/our Generation ......always 2 sides to the coin |
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
What has being blown to pieces got to do with anything?
Your post said to imagine being in that young age group and being licked down for a year.
I have pointed out that members of the same demographic have, as members of the armed forces, taken part in conflicts where they have lost their lives, many of them blown to pieces. So I’m pointing out that for people of that demographic there are worse things than being required to lockdown. And they were being locked down with, in the main, a roof over their heads, food in their stomach, sheltered from the cold and rain and with tv/satellite/Netflix/computer games/internet to distract them.
So I was saying at the same age I’d have considered being locked down less of an evil than some alternatives that people of that age have, and still are, faced/facing. "
Yes lots of youngsters join the armed forces, police, fire, ambulance etc and do amazing and selfless things for their country, and set a great example. |
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
What has being blown to pieces got to do with anything?
Your post said to imagine being in that young age group and being licked down for a year.
I have pointed out that members of the same demographic have, as members of the armed forces, taken part in conflicts where they have lost their lives, many of them blown to pieces. So I’m pointing out that for people of that demographic there are worse things than being required to lockdown. And they were being locked down with, in the main, a roof over their heads, food in their stomach, sheltered from the cold and rain and with tv/satellite/Netflix/computer games/internet to distract them.
So I was saying at the same age I’d have considered being locked down less of an evil than some alternatives that people of that age have, and still are, faced/facing.
What does being in the army have to do with covid?
You make a decision to join the army. No one forces you.
This argument is getting bizarre."
You might find that historically people were conscripted so it wasn’t a matter of choice.
Can’t see how it’s bizarre - I was merely giving an example of how there were worse things that could be experienced at the same age. |
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
What has being blown to pieces got to do with anything?
Your post said to imagine being in that young age group and being licked down for a year.
I have pointed out that members of the same demographic have, as members of the armed forces, taken part in conflicts where they have lost their lives, many of them blown to pieces. So I’m pointing out that for people of that demographic there are worse things than being required to lockdown. And they were being locked down with, in the main, a roof over their heads, food in their stomach, sheltered from the cold and rain and with tv/satellite/Netflix/computer games/internet to distract them.
So I was saying at the same age I’d have considered being locked down less of an evil than some alternatives that people of that age have, and still are, faced/facing.
Yes lots of youngsters join the armed forces, police, fire, ambulance etc and do amazing and selfless things for their country, and set a great example. "
Totally agree |
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
What has being blown to pieces got to do with anything?
Your post said to imagine being in that young age group and being licked down for a year.
I have pointed out that members of the same demographic have, as members of the armed forces, taken part in conflicts where they have lost their lives, many of them blown to pieces. So I’m pointing out that for people of that demographic there are worse things than being required to lockdown. And they were being locked down with, in the main, a roof over their heads, food in their stomach, sheltered from the cold and rain and with tv/satellite/Netflix/computer games/internet to distract them.
So I was saying at the same age I’d have considered being locked down less of an evil than some alternatives that people of that age have, and still are, faced/facing.
What does being in the army have to do with covid?
You make a decision to join the army. No one forces you.
This argument is getting bizarre.
You might find that historically people were conscripted so it wasn’t a matter of choice.
Can’t see how it’s bizarre - I was merely giving an example of how there were worse things that could be experienced at the same age. "
But they dont now.
I cant see how it relates to covid. |
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My reaction would be exactly the same since you ask
My point is not so much my reaction it’s that kids are fond of shouting abuse but not so fond of stopping for the consequences when someone rounds on them |
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"Let’s get one thing straight
I’m not making generalisations
I have seen and witnessed some awful behaviour from young people,I’ve mentioned it here
Sorry there’s too much of it about for it to be classified as untypical
Picking extreme cases ? Don’t think so
Let’s list some more
The school kid telling a woman with a pram to fuck off cuz he’s on his bike n she’s in the way
The teenage drug dealer complete with buisness card shotting drugs in lunch time
Kids shouting down a teacher in class because their social skills are so poor that’s the only way they know how to communicate
Finally you what really stinks?
When you challenge their behaviour and get a mouthful of abuse - you ask them to come over and repeat it ( so you can give them one to the jaw) do they square up ? Not a chance off they run... little fucking cowards
You can blame the kids as much as you want ....but maybe most of it lays on on the generation that's produced them !!!! "
Yep - can’t argue that - it appears to have been a shift in society - but does that possibly come back around to giving people excuses for their behaviour ? Different acceptable standards, parents either choosing not to, or not being allowed to, instill discipline in their children. And if the police act then it’s always police brutality.
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"Whilst not condoning it..imagine being 18,19,20 and being locked up for the best part of a year.
Why should age come into it? Does being locked down effect people older than that effect them less? Older people may have children, extended families who haven’t been able to see eachother, children who haven’t been able to see their
aunts/uncles/grandparents/cousins/friends etc.
Imagine being an older person who lives miles from their family so don’t even have the opportunity to speak to their loved ones from their doorstep, and have been locked down for the best part of the year because they are extremely vulnerable, who come from a pre-zoom society where all their lives have been spent in dealing with people face to face, where they have been used to showing their affection by way of physical contact.
Appreciate you’re not condoning it , but “imagine being 19,20” etc could be interpreted as giving an excuse. And anti social, selfish behaviour doesn’t need anymore excuses in this country - rather it needs more people to not give any leeway that could be exploited.
Oh - and imagine being 19,20 etc and having to leave your family to be blown to pieces.....don’t know about anybody else but at that age I’d have taken a years lockdown over potentially losing my life any day of the week.
What has being blown to pieces got to do with anything?
Your post said to imagine being in that young age group and being licked down for a year.
I have pointed out that members of the same demographic have, as members of the armed forces, taken part in conflicts where they have lost their lives, many of them blown to pieces. So I’m pointing out that for people of that demographic there are worse things than being required to lockdown. And they were being locked down with, in the main, a roof over their heads, food in their stomach, sheltered from the cold and rain and with tv/satellite/Netflix/computer games/internet to distract them.
So I was saying at the same age I’d have considered being locked down less of an evil than some alternatives that people of that age have, and still are, faced/facing.
What does being in the army have to do with covid?
You make a decision to join the army. No one forces you.
This argument is getting bizarre.
You might find that historically people were conscripted so it wasn’t a matter of choice.
Can’t see how it’s bizarre - I was merely giving an example of how there were worse things that could be experienced at the same age.
But they dont now.
I cant see how it relates to covid."
It doesn’t - it relates to your statement about imagine what it’s like for people in that age group to have had to go through lockdown. I was, as I said , just giving an example of things that might be worse, and indeed had been worse, for others of that age. Don’t think it’s difficult to understand but hey - perhaps my pitiful intellect is failing to see the big picture  |
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"I don't think because people can't have a drink in a pub that they should break the rules in a park
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you would think our brains were hard wired with a “it’s gotta be one or other” switch the way some people justify it
as (allegedly) evolved human beings we have more than an on/off switch |
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By *rHotNottsMan
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"I am guessing you didn't see the footage Thetributeking. You are right though, it happened in other parts of the country too
What are they meant to do ? If all the bars are closed and the only cafes open are in parks then it’s a no brainier what will happen. These people are t at risk otherwise they would be getting vaccines
EVERYBODY is at risk - it’s just that older people and people with underlying health conditions are deemed at higher risk of the virus being FATAL to them.
Also - the can contract Covid and pass it on to somebody WHO is vulnerable - we need to remember that no vaccine is 100% and we’ve already seen viruses mutate - basically to “survive”.
The “I/we/they aren’t at risk attitude is exactly why we’ve had the yo-yo effect with the reinfection rate and jumping in and out of lockdowns. "
How can they pass it on , the vulnerable are all vaccinated and they should be hanging out with youths on parks if they haven’t been |
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By *HaRiFMan
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"I am guessing you didn't see the footage Thetributeking. You are right though, it happened in other parts of the country too
What are they meant to do ? If all the bars are closed and the only cafes open are in parks then it’s a no brainier what will happen. These people are t at risk otherwise they would be getting vaccines
EVERYBODY is at risk - it’s just that older people and people with underlying health conditions are deemed at higher risk of the virus being FATAL to them.
Also - the can contract Covid and pass it on to somebody WHO is vulnerable - we need to remember that no vaccine is 100% and we’ve already seen viruses mutate - basically to “survive”.
The “I/we/they aren’t at risk attitude is exactly why we’ve had the yo-yo effect with the reinfection rate and jumping in and out of lockdowns.
How can they pass it on , the vulnerable are all vaccinated and they should be hanging out with youths on parks if they haven’t been "
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Agree with the 1st para
People seem intent on stigmotising an entire generation.
As it was the younger generation in the parks mentioned in the subject of the thread I am not sure why we would be discussing a different generation. It looked like all youngsters to me
I just don't get why people would need to write disclaimers on everything to be able to discuss what is happening in a news story at the moment
So you see a news video and can confidently assess the age of everyone in the park who is "misbehaving" that's a good skill to have. We just can't stop ourselves at times. "
i think there is quite a difference between dangerous stereotyping and making an observation on what visually is a majority of a group
you don’t need the video to show you every person in a crowd to get a feel for the fact it was for the most part youngsters- stating that observation doesn’t mean you think all teens and students are out running wild
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According to the government chief medical officer the packed beaches last year in the spring early summer, and the protest produced no spike in transmission and that was before the vaccines were even thought of . |
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"Let’s get one thing straight
I’m not making generalisations
I have seen and witnessed some awful behaviour from young people,I’ve mentioned it here
Sorry there’s too much of it about for it to be classified as untypical
Picking extreme cases ? Don’t think so
Let’s list some more
The school kid telling a woman with a pram to fuck off cuz he’s on his bike n she’s in the way
The teenage drug dealer complete with buisness card shotting drugs in lunch time
Kids shouting down a teacher in class because their social skills are so poor that’s the only way they know how to communicate
Finally you what really stinks?
When you challenge their behaviour and get a mouthful of abuse - you ask them to come over and repeat it ( so you can give them one to the jaw) do they square up ? Not a chance off they run... little fucking cowards
You can blame the kids as much as you want ....but maybe most of it lays on on the generation that's produced them !!!!
Yep - can’t argue that - it appears to have been a shift in society - but does that possibly come back around to giving people excuses for their behaviour ? Different acceptable standards, parents either choosing not to, or not being allowed to, instill discipline in their children. And if the police act then it’s always police brutality.
Perhaps it needs a shift back to older values ? "
As unpopular as it will be... I second that emotion. Not shoving kids up chimneys and under lave making machines...
Spare the metaphorical rod and all that. I'd go further... But that's probably for another day in the jimll fix it thread. |
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"Let’s get one thing straight
I’m not making generalisations
I have seen and witnessed some awful behaviour from young people,I’ve mentioned it here
Sorry there’s too much of it about for it to be classified as untypical
Picking extreme cases ? Don’t think so
Let’s list some more
The school kid telling a woman with a pram to fuck off cuz he’s on his bike n she’s in the way
The teenage drug dealer complete with buisness card shotting drugs in lunch time
Kids shouting down a teacher in class because their social skills are so poor that’s the only way they know how to communicate
Finally you what really stinks?
When you challenge their behaviour and get a mouthful of abuse - you ask them to come over and repeat it ( so you can give them one to the jaw) do they square up ? Not a chance off they run... little fucking cowards
You can blame the kids as much as you want ....but maybe most of it lays on on the generation that's produced them !!!!
Yep - can’t argue that - it appears to have been a shift in society - but does that possibly come back around to giving people excuses for their behaviour ? Different acceptable standards, parents either choosing not to, or not being allowed to, instill discipline in their children. And if the police act then it’s always police brutality.
Perhaps it needs a shift back to older values ?
As unpopular as it will be... I second that emotion. Not shoving kids up chimneys and under lave making machines...
Spare the metaphorical rod and all that. I'd go further... But that's probably for another day in the jimll fix it thread. "
*lace! Not lave... Which is way too close to the other word. And that would be weird. |
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"I am guessing you didn't see the footage Thetributeking. You are right though, it happened in other parts of the country too
What are they meant to do ? If all the bars are closed and the only cafes open are in parks then it’s a no brainier what will happen. These people are t at risk otherwise they would be getting vaccines
EVERYBODY is at risk - it’s just that older people and people with underlying health conditions are deemed at higher risk of the virus being FATAL to them.
Also - the can contract Covid and pass it on to somebody WHO is vulnerable - we need to remember that no vaccine is 100% and we’ve already seen viruses mutate - basically to “survive”.
The “I/we/they aren’t at risk attitude is exactly why we’ve had the yo-yo effect with the reinfection rate and jumping in and out of lockdowns.
How can they pass it on , the vulnerable are all vaccinated and they should be hanging out with youths on parks if they haven’t been "
I refer you to the bit where I say “no vaccine is 100%”, and also it has been announced on more than one occasion that NONE of the vaccines currently available are capable of preventing infection 109%. Also, it has been acknowledged that people can be asymptomatic and still pass the virus on.
The attitude that it was an “old persons virus” has been proved to be wrong, during the last increase in infections and fatalities, there has been an increase in the number of young people who were in those groups.
The mentality that older people shouldn’t be in the park with younger people ....well that could be interpreted as discriminatory. The simple counter-argument to you would be it doesn’t matter what age people are, or whether they were vaccinated or not, if they are outside the specifications of the latest regulations by either being in large, multiple household groups and not observing social distancing - then they’re in the wrong.
Back in the 80’s there was this little thing called an AIDS pandemic - not particularly newsworthy I guess. The mindset was that it was the “gay disease” and didn’t effect heterosexuals. That was proved to be wrong, and it might be interpreted that the initial mindset to COVID was similar. |
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Well
I’ve posted what some would consider harsh comments about the lil fuckers aged between 18 to 25
Strangely ( and it may be cuz it’s fab ) no one from that age group have posted ?
Maybe they are still in the park |
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I’ve posted what some would consider harsh comments about the lil fuckers aged between 18 to 25
Strangely ( and it may be cuz it’s fab ) no one from that age group have posted ?
Maybe they are still in the park "
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I think there is a bigger underlying issue here in that for 13 months we’ve been told stay at home, protect the NHS, blah, blah, blah.
Then we get the vaccine is the way out of this, but after 30 million have been vaccinated we still have to be cautious.
Based on infection rates and deaths pretty much all the country would be in tier 1 under the old structure but here we are being treated like animals, being made scared to come out of our homes.
I voted for this government at the last election (to get Brexit done) I didn’t vote for Whitty and Vallance and their graphs of doom, I didn’t vote for the most boring people in the world in SAGE and NERVTAG to be in the media every five minutes going on and on like we should be treated like 5 year old kids !
I don’t condone the scenes in Nottingham but I think everyone has tired of the half-life we are leading at the moment, if I hear one more government representative say ‘we are almost there, don’t ruin the sacrifices we’ve made’ how many months we’ve heard that for now ?
As for’third waves’ isn’t the variant in Europe our Kent variant, is it going on tour and then going to come back home ?
I have a massive concern that the government and their advisers are so power mad with all this media exposure that they’ll be reasons as to why we need to wear masks and have lockdowns forever, this time next year we’ll still be hearing Whitty with ‘next slide please’. |
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"That looked like some kind of organised mass gathering.
Young adults seem to think they are invincible and don't seem to understand how they can pass the virus on.
I know they have been cooped up for a long time and need to let off steam, but they were irresponsible.
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We need a new lead virus that will cull those that are not an asset but a nuisance to society. |
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"this time next year we’ll still be hearing Whitty with ‘next slide please’."
Is it too complicated for the Conservatives to provide Whitty with a button he can press to change the slides himself ? |
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"I think there is a bigger underlying issue here in that for 13 months we’ve been told stay at home, protect the NHS, blah, blah, blah.
Then we get the vaccine is the way out of this, but after 30 million have been vaccinated we still have to be cautious.
Based on infection rates and deaths pretty much all the country would be in tier 1 under the old structure but here we are being treated like animals, being made scared to come out of our homes.
I voted for this government at the last election (to get Brexit done) I didn’t vote for Whitty and Vallance and their graphs of doom, I didn’t vote for the most boring people in the world in SAGE and NERVTAG to be in the media every five minutes going on and on like we should be treated like 5 year old kids !
I don’t condone the scenes in Nottingham but I think everyone has tired of the half-life we are leading at the moment, if I hear one more government representative say ‘we are almost there, don’t ruin the sacrifices we’ve made’ how many months we’ve heard that for now ?
As for’third waves’ isn’t the variant in Europe our Kent variant, is it going on tour and then going to come back home ?
I have a massive concern that the government and their advisers are so power mad with all this media exposure that they’ll be reasons as to why we need to wear masks and have lockdowns forever, this time next year we’ll still be hearing Whitty with ‘next slide please’."
Whether you like it or not. And whoever is in charge. The enemy is the virus. We have a winter to get through yet before this is done. Booster shots. Lack of vaccine supplies. There's another year of being careful and sensible. And that's nobody's particular fault. It's a virus pandemic and people working against the common good. Death rates are right down. Infection rates are still 5000 ish per day. Nobody knows how long the effects of the vaccine last for. It's in all of our interests to be sensible and reduce the community rates as low as possible. You hear what you want to hear and see what you want to see.
The media not necessarily the govt have a lot more to do with the stories they tell. Some of which bear only a passing resemblance to the truth. |
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