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So today I got a text message from my council and an NHS email stating that I would have to shield. Really took me a back today as I was at work seeing patients. I work in healthcare, have a few underlying conditions that I take medication for and am part of the BAME population. I guess when you put it all out like that it makes sense.
Work have given me a laptop to work from home but half of my job is working with patients, so not entirely sure what to fill my day with as work said to take it easy and not stress...
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I totally understand how you are feeling because I had exactly the same text and email yesterday.
At the moment the shielding advice is only until the end of March, im glad you are able to work from home but it does take a bit of adjusting and like you I was quite shocked and surprised yesterday.
On the plus note within an hour of me receiving that email I had a phone call from my doctor to ask if I needed any support and would I like to come now to get the vaccine. |
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"So today I got a text message from my council and an NHS email stating that I would have to shield. Really took me a back today as I was at work seeing patients. I work in healthcare, have a few underlying conditions that I take medication for and am part of the BAME population. I guess when you put it all out like that it makes sense.
Work have given me a laptop to work from home but half of my job is working with patients, so not entirely sure what to fill my day with as work said to take it easy and not stress...
Any hobbies to recommend?"
You have our sympathies but just to clarify for anyone who is not clear about this, nobody is FORCED to shield although certain groups are strongly advised to as you have been. It's about reducing their risk and as with any health advice, it's up to you how far you stick to it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51997151
The current distancing and other Covid laws will still apply to anyone shielding but if they decide to do something which isn't otherwise prescribedby law, that's up to them and their judgement on their vulnerabilities and state of mind.
Anyone who has any doubts should consult their GP or the various other sources of information concerning this matter. |
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"So today I got a text message from my council and an NHS email stating that I would have to shield. Really took me a back today as I was at work seeing patients. I work in healthcare, have a few underlying conditions that I take medication for and am part of the BAME population. I guess when you put it all out like that it makes sense.
Work have given me a laptop to work from home but half of my job is working with patients, so not entirely sure what to fill my day with as work said to take it easy and not stress...
Any hobbies to recommend?"
I've been learning new skills x taking courses etc |
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"So today I got a text message from my council and an NHS email stating that I would have to shield. Really took me a back today as I was at work seeing patients. I work in healthcare, have a few underlying conditions that I take medication for and am part of the BAME population. I guess when you put it all out like that it makes sense.
Work have given me a laptop to work from home but half of my job is working with patients, so not entirely sure what to fill my day with as work said to take it easy and not stress...
Any hobbies to recommend?
You have our sympathies but just to clarify for anyone who is not clear about this, nobody is FORCED to shield although certain groups are strongly advised to as you have been. It's about reducing their risk and as with any health advice, it's up to you how far you stick to it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51997151
The current distancing and other Covid laws will still apply to anyone shielding but if they decide to do something which isn't otherwise prescribedby law, that's up to them and their judgement on their vulnerabilities and state of mind.
Anyone who has any doubts should consult their GP or the various other sources of information concerning this matter."
There are no doubts it makes it very clear on the email and letter that it is guidance! All the information and help available is in the email. |
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"So today I got a text message from my council and an NHS email stating that I would have to shield. Really took me a back today as I was at work seeing patients. I work in healthcare, have a few underlying conditions that I take medication for and am part of the BAME population. I guess when you put it all out like that it makes sense.
Work have given me a laptop to work from home but half of my job is working with patients, so not entirely sure what to fill my day with as work said to take it easy and not stress...
Any hobbies to recommend? I've been learning new skills x taking courses etc "
Yeah I signed up to a online cooking course yesterday to keep me occupied. |
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I forgot to say if you Google activities for shielding people loads of ideas come up and really useful websites so might be worth having a look at that.
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I shielded during the first lockdown mental health out the window am i hell doing it again sitting myself 24/7 it was horrible aslong as you take precautions washing hands social distancing like everyone else and just be careful
but please don't do what i did and be on own your all the time i honestly wish i hadn't done it to be honest.
I decided to long drives thats when they loosened things up though. |
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"I shielded during the first lockdown mental health out the window am i hell doing it again sitting myself 24/7 it was horrible aslong as you take precautions washing hands social distancing like everyone else and just be careful
but please don't do what i did and be on own your all the time i honestly wish i hadn't done it to be honest.
I decided to long drives thats when they loosened things up though."
Yes the 1st time round shielding was horrific but thankfully when it restarted for most in December the guidelines were different and you were advised to go out for a walk and if you live alone form a bubble. |
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"I shielded during the first lockdown mental health out the window am i hell doing it again sitting myself 24/7 it was horrible aslong as you take precautions washing hands social distancing like everyone else and just be careful
but please don't do what i did and be on own your all the time i honestly wish i hadn't done it to be honest.
I decided to long drives thats when they loosened things up though.
Yes the 1st time round shielding was horrific but thankfully when it restarted for most in December the guidelines were different and you were advised to go out for a walk and if you live alone form a bubble. "
I think it was the all the panic at the time in march telling us we had to shut ourselves away from the world for 3 months then it was extended to july it was just horrible i could never do that again. |
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How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things. "
There are studies looking into this but I am not aware of any conclusive evidence yet. However, statistically in the UK people from BAME communities are more likely to contract, more likely to get seriously ill, more likely to die.
The theories include (in no order):
- Lower levels of vitamin D
- More common for family structures to see multi-generational households
- A higher proportion of BAME people feature in lower socio-economic groups (poorer people) which collates to...
- Higher density housing (people packed together)
- Type of jobs more likely to be those where the person cannot work from home
- Large proportion working in higher risk/exposure jobs such as health and social care. |
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I Harold have the shielding letter since early Jan.
I want to go to work and I have been told I can but the agency I'm contracted with won't allow me as technically they are my employer.
I've told them it's only guidance but they won't budge. |
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
There are studies looking into this but I am not aware of any conclusive evidence yet. However, statistically in the UK people from BAME communities are more likely to contract, more likely to get seriously ill, more likely to die.
The theories include (in no order):
- Lower levels of vitamin D
- More common for family structures to see multi-generational households
- A higher proportion of BAME people feature in lower socio-economic groups (poorer people) which collates to...
- Higher density housing (people packed together)
- Type of jobs more likely to be those where the person cannot work from home
- Large proportion working in higher risk/exposure jobs such as health and social care."
so apart from the vitamin d theory it generaly sounds like not follow ing social distancing and working in front line jobs is the main factor then not that there is a diffrennce in the make up of different races so if your BAME and sensible you can make your self the same level of risk as anyone else by taking precautions at work ECT and sticking to social distancing and lock down rules. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
There are studies looking into this but I am not aware of any conclusive evidence yet. However, statistically in the UK people from BAME communities are more likely to contract, more likely to get seriously ill, more likely to die.
The theories include (in no order):
- Lower levels of vitamin D
- More common for family structures to see multi-generational households
- A higher proportion of BAME people feature in lower socio-economic groups (poorer people) which collates to...
- Higher density housing (people packed together)
- Type of jobs more likely to be those where the person cannot work from home
- Large proportion working in higher risk/exposure jobs such as health and social care.
so apart from the vitamin d theory it generaly sounds like not follow ing social distancing and working in front line jobs is the main factor then not that there is a diffrennce in the make up of different races so if your BAME and sensible you can make your self the same level of risk as anyone else by taking precautions at work ECT and sticking to social distancing and lock down rules."
Apart from what I said, I don’t know. I believe there may be studies (there should be) into biological factors such as blood groups etc. |
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
There are studies looking into this but I am not aware of any conclusive evidence yet. However, statistically in the UK people from BAME communities are more likely to contract, more likely to get seriously ill, more likely to die.
The theories include (in no order):
- Lower levels of vitamin D
- More common for family structures to see multi-generational households
- A higher proportion of BAME people feature in lower socio-economic groups (poorer people) which collates to...
- Higher density housing (people packed together)
- Type of jobs more likely to be those where the person cannot work from home
- Large proportion working in higher risk/exposure jobs such as health and social care.
so apart from the vitamin d theory it generaly sounds like not follow ing social distancing and working in front line jobs is the main factor then not that there is a diffrennce in the make up of different races so if your BAME and sensible you can make your self the same level of risk as anyone else by taking precautions at work ECT and sticking to social distancing and lock down rules."
The honest answer is right now we don't know.
There are definitely conditions and diseases that are more prominent in people from certain heritages. So it could be the case with covid virus too.
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
There are studies looking into this but I am not aware of any conclusive evidence yet. However, statistically in the UK people from BAME communities are more likely to contract, more likely to get seriously ill, more likely to die.
The theories include (in no order):
- Lower levels of vitamin D
- More common for family structures to see multi-generational households
- A higher proportion of BAME people feature in lower socio-economic groups (poorer people) which collates to...
- Higher density housing (people packed together)
- Type of jobs more likely to be those where the person cannot work from home
- Large proportion working in higher risk/exposure jobs such as health and social care.
so apart from the vitamin d theory it generaly sounds like not follow ing social distancing and working in front line jobs is the main factor then not that there is a diffrennce in the make up of different races so if your BAME and sensible you can make your self the same level of risk as anyone else by taking precautions at work ECT and sticking to social distancing and lock down rules.
Apart from what I said, I don’t know. I believe there may be studies (there should be) into biological factors such as blood groups etc."
There have been studies into certain blood groups already and is showing that some blood types are more likely to have serious illness with covid than other blood types. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
There are studies looking into this but I am not aware of any conclusive evidence yet. However, statistically in the UK people from BAME communities are more likely to contract, more likely to get seriously ill, more likely to die.
The theories include (in no order):
- Lower levels of vitamin D
- More common for family structures to see multi-generational households
- A higher proportion of BAME people feature in lower socio-economic groups (poorer people) which collates to...
- Higher density housing (people packed together)
- Type of jobs more likely to be those where the person cannot work from home
- Large proportion working in higher risk/exposure jobs such as health and social care.
so apart from the vitamin d theory it generaly sounds like not follow ing social distancing and working in front line jobs is the main factor then not that there is a diffrennce in the make up of different races so if your BAME and sensible you can make your self the same level of risk as anyone else by taking precautions at work ECT and sticking to social distancing and lock down rules.
Apart from what I said, I don’t know. I believe there may be studies (there should be) into biological factors such as blood groups etc.
There have been studies into certain blood groups already and is showing that some blood types are more likely to have serious illness with covid than other blood types."
That is really interesting. Do you by chance have a source (I can google of course). I wonder whether that can be used to help with vaccine design and targeting? |
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
There are studies looking into this but I am not aware of any conclusive evidence yet. However, statistically in the UK people from BAME communities are more likely to contract, more likely to get seriously ill, more likely to die.
The theories include (in no order):
- Lower levels of vitamin D
- More common for family structures to see multi-generational households
- A higher proportion of BAME people feature in lower socio-economic groups (poorer people) which collates to...
- Higher density housing (people packed together)
- Type of jobs more likely to be those where the person cannot work from home
- Large proportion working in higher risk/exposure jobs such as health and social care.
so apart from the vitamin d theory it generaly sounds like not follow ing social distancing and working in front line jobs is the main factor then not that there is a diffrennce in the make up of different races so if your BAME and sensible you can make your self the same level of risk as anyone else by taking precautions at work ECT and sticking to social distancing and lock down rules.
Apart from what I said, I don’t know. I believe there may be studies (there should be) into biological factors such as blood groups etc.
There have been studies into certain blood groups already and is showing that some blood types are more likely to have serious illness with covid than other blood types.
That is really interesting. Do you by chance have a source (I can google of course). I wonder whether that can be used to help with vaccine design and targeting?"
To be honest to find a link I would have to Google the same way you can so might just be easier to look yourself.
I have definitely read something about this a couple of months ago and it was on BBC news reports but I'm not sure what came of it as i haven't followed it up.
There is also some quite interesting articles about the use of Anti-inflammatory medication used to treat severe arthritis problems that might be of interest as it has been very effective in the treatment of covid patients. |
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
There are studies looking into this but I am not aware of any conclusive evidence yet. However, statistically in the UK people from BAME communities are more likely to contract, more likely to get seriously ill, more likely to die.
The theories include (in no order):
- Lower levels of vitamin D
- More common for family structures to see multi-generational households
- A higher proportion of BAME people feature in lower socio-economic groups (poorer people) which collates to...
- Higher density housing (people packed together)
- Type of jobs more likely to be those where the person cannot work from home
- Large proportion working in higher risk/exposure jobs such as health and social care.
so apart from the vitamin d theory it generaly sounds like not follow ing social distancing and working in front line jobs is the main factor then not that there is a diffrennce in the make up of different races so if your BAME and sensible you can make your self the same level of risk as anyone else by taking precautions at work ECT and sticking to social distancing and lock down rules.
Apart from what I said, I don’t know. I believe there may be studies (there should be) into biological factors such as blood groups etc.
There have been studies into certain blood groups already and is showing that some blood types are more likely to have serious illness with covid than other blood types.
That is really interesting. Do you by chance have a source (I can google of course). I wonder whether that can be used to help with vaccine design and targeting?"
A quick Google search came up with this.
Among the COVID-19 positive, they found fewer people with blood type O and more people with A, B, and AB types. The study results suggest that people with blood types A, B, or AB may be more likely to be infected with COVID-19 than people with type O.
I can't post the link as I'm not sure its allowed but it was forbes. |
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"im asthmatic and im on a steriod inhaler yet im not supposedly at risk from a virus which attacks your lungs  "
The Mrs is thd same and she had barely any symptoms.
I am a gym rat and I got quite ill with the virus.
There was talk of the inhalers helping with covid symptoms. |
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"im asthmatic and im on a steriod inhaler yet im not supposedly at risk from a virus which attacks your lungs "
You will be considered high risk but the shielding group are considered at extremely high risk so that is the difference. |
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things. "
It's more to do with corresponding risk factors such as common comorbidites or predisposing genetic factors.
Also, I suppose in terms of covid deaths those in the BAME community have had a higher prevalence in proportion to the Caucasian population.
Letter stated:
We are writing to you because new research commissioned by the Chief Medical Officer has recently enabled us to identify people who may be at increased risk of becoming seriously unwell from coronavirus. This is because of a combination of their individual characteristics and their underlying health conditions.
I have diabetes, hypertension, I'm overweight, take a combination of medications to manage my conditions and work in healthcare in central London. Being part of the BAME population is just one factor. |
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
It's more to do with corresponding risk factors such as common comorbidites or predisposing genetic factors.
Also, I suppose in terms of covid deaths those in the BAME community have had a higher prevalence in proportion to the Caucasian population.
Letter stated:
We are writing to you because new research commissioned by the Chief Medical Officer has recently enabled us to identify people who may be at increased risk of becoming seriously unwell from coronavirus. This is because of a combination of their individual characteristics and their underlying health conditions.
I have diabetes, hypertension, I'm overweight, take a combination of medications to manage my conditions and work in healthcare in central London. Being part of the BAME population is just one factor."
Exactly this. I'm not BAME but had the same letter.
As you said its a combination of things.
What does the things hes faced on if you live in an area of deprivation. I live in quite a nice area however up the road is a massive Council estate that is considered a deprived area so my postcode would put me in that risk group. It's a combination of things so that on its own wouldn't put me extreme risk but my health condition and occupation do. |
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"How does been part of the BAME population make you more at risk from coronavirus? I still don't understand how a virus can effect one race more than anougher or do people of different race have different immune systems or different internal organs slightly making it harder to tackle the virus any medical expert know?. I have tried googling it but that just says all sorts of random things.
It's more to do with corresponding risk factors such as common comorbidites or predisposing genetic factors.
Also, I suppose in terms of covid deaths those in the BAME community have had a higher prevalence in proportion to the Caucasian population.
Letter stated:
We are writing to you because new research commissioned by the Chief Medical Officer has recently enabled us to identify people who may be at increased risk of becoming seriously unwell from coronavirus. This is because of a combination of their individual characteristics and their underlying health conditions.
I have diabetes, hypertension, I'm overweight, take a combination of medications to manage my conditions and work in healthcare in central London. Being part of the BAME population is just one factor.
Exactly this. I'm not BAME but had the same letter.
As you said its a combination of things.
What does the things hes faced on if you live in an area of deprivation. I live in quite a nice area however up the road is a massive Council estate that is considered a deprived area so my postcode would put me in that risk group. It's a combination of things so that on its own wouldn't put me extreme risk but my health condition and occupation do. "
Sorry that 1st big didn't make sense what I meant to say is one of the other factors. |
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