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By *.D.I.D.A.S OP Man
over a year ago
London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact |
Just published on BBC website. It's too early to say what implications there are yet. Potentially it could be bad news. But this confirms that this is a long constant fluid battle. |
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By *.D.I.D.A.S OP Man
over a year ago
London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact |
"I also saw this but in the same article they said this “new variant” had been found in Denmark, Nigeria and the US so unsure why the BBC called it a new “UK variant”  "
Perhaps it's a new addition to the UK's flourishing collection? |
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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago
North Yorkshire |
"I also saw this but in the same article they said this “new variant” had been found in Denmark, Nigeria and the US so unsure why the BBC called it a new “UK variant”
Perhaps it's a new addition to the UK's flourishing collection? "
No doubt we will go through the alphabet A to Z of variants and after Z start again. |
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"Not a comment on this thread but generally (non Fab world) people seem surprised about a virus mutating? It is what viruses do. Why are they all so shocked?"
Probably because most of us weren't that knowledgeable about viruses before this came along |
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"Not a comment on this thread but generally (non Fab world) people seem surprised about a virus mutating? It is what viruses do. Why are they all so shocked?"
For me it's not the mutation, it's that it might put the battle against this thing back. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"Not a comment on this thread but generally (non Fab world) people seem surprised about a virus mutating? It is what viruses do. Why are they all so shocked?"
They are shocked because they are not aware that viruses mutate  |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
Are you talking about a Nigerian variant? Just read this.....
Public Health England has found 38 cases of the new Nigerian Covid strain in the UK, following claims the variant could be resistant to vaccines as it carries the E484K mutation
Fab-u-lous  |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
Surely though people understood that the Flu virus mutates which is why there is a booster vaccine every winter to cope with new strains/mutations that appeared over the previous year (though strictly speaking the booster shot is always approx 6mths out of date so misses some strains)
It is this mutating nature of Covid that will make annual boosters necessary and some strains will inevitably get loose meaning, like Flu, there will be deaths every year.
Cheery - sorry folks! |
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"Surely though people understood that the Flu virus mutates which is why there is a booster vaccine every winter to cope with new strains/mutations that appeared over the previous year (though strictly speaking the booster shot is always approx 6mths out of date so misses some strains)
It is this mutating nature of Covid that will make annual boosters necessary and some strains will inevitably get loose meaning, like Flu, there will be deaths every year.
Cheery - sorry folks! "
I think it's that the situation is more complex than we feared and seems to be deteriorating. Mutation doesn't always mean mutation with a disadvantage to humans. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m afraid the ‘new variant’ line is being used for a multitude of measures. All viruses mutate. This constant announcement of every now variant does nothing except spread unnecessary fear. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not a comment on this thread but generally (non Fab world) people seem surprised about a virus mutating? It is what viruses do. Why are they all so shocked?"
Think most people have no idea about the basics and that's why all the hysteria over this. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Surely though people understood that the Flu virus mutates which is why there is a booster vaccine every winter to cope with new strains/mutations that appeared over the previous year (though strictly speaking the booster shot is always approx 6mths out of date so misses some strains)
It is this mutating nature of Covid that will make annual boosters necessary and some strains will inevitably get loose meaning, like Flu, there will be deaths every year.
Cheery - sorry folks!
I think it's that the situation is more complex than we feared and seems to be deteriorating. Mutation doesn't always mean mutation with a disadvantage to humans."
True. When viruses mutate they become less dangerous (as don’t want to kill their host) but more transmissible (as they want to reproduce and spread). |
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"Surely though people understood that the Flu virus mutates which is why there is a booster vaccine every winter to cope with new strains/mutations that appeared over the previous year (though strictly speaking the booster shot is always approx 6mths out of date so misses some strains)
It is this mutating nature of Covid that will make annual boosters necessary and some strains will inevitably get loose meaning, like Flu, there will be deaths every year.
Cheery - sorry folks!
I think it's that the situation is more complex than we feared and seems to be deteriorating. Mutation doesn't always mean mutation with a disadvantage to humans.
True. When viruses mutate they become less dangerous (as don’t want to kill their host) but more transmissible (as they want to reproduce and spread)."
My understanding is that it's random, or on the basis of virus survival (mutation is random, selective pressure favours virus survival), which lends itself to reduced virility and increased transmissibility... but this isn't necessarily so. |
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"I also saw this but in the same article they said this “new variant” had been found in Denmark, Nigeria and the US so unsure why the BBC called it a new “UK variant” "
Because that makes it click bait and all the doom merchants can grab hold of it... Could just as easy be called the Nigeria variant but thta wouldn't cause such emotion |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’m afraid the ‘new variant’ line is being used for a multitude of measures. All viruses mutate. This constant announcement of every now variant does nothing except spread unnecessary fear."
Unnecessary fear and probable delay of any easing of the lockdown |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not a comment on this thread but generally (non Fab world) people seem surprised about a virus mutating? It is what viruses do. Why are they all so shocked?
Think most people have no idea about the basics and that's why all the hysteria over this."
So why can't these 'experts' explain it to people.. All viruses mutate |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"I also saw this but in the same article they said this “new variant” had been found in Denmark, Nigeria and the US so unsure why the BBC called it a new “UK variant”
Because that makes it click bait and all the doom merchants can grab hold of it... Could just as easy be called the Nigeria variant but thta wouldn't cause such emotion"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I also saw this but in the same article they said this “new variant” had been found in Denmark, Nigeria and the US so unsure why the BBC called it a new “UK variant” "
Because it would be classed as racist to say it was Nigerian mutation |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not a comment on this thread but generally (non Fab world) people seem surprised about a virus mutating? It is what viruses do. Why are they all so shocked?"
Because unfortunately our continued education in this country is shit. Most people without higher education never think to try to educate themselves. |
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There will always be variants and mutations. Its what virus's do. The media are jumping on every new bit of information like vultures.
Isolate, contact trace, test.
There could also be positive news in the future that the virus may mutate and harm itself in some way. For every jab in someone's arm we are weakening the virus's opportunity to kill but also pressure the virus to mutate.
Stay safe all x |
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As the number of infections reduces, the corresponding opportunity for mutations reduces too. It should be no surprise that after this has been around for a year, whilst we're at the height of our second wave of phenomenal infection levels, that we are seeing such mutations arise and become established.
It's great positive progress to have the containment measures reducing the infection levels and also that the vaccines take up levels are increasing too. The vaccines may further reduce infection levels and potential incidences of mutations too. Booster vaccines will likely protect you further, after you've had your first doses.
The virus is probably not going to disappear but mitigation of the risks to your health will help it to fade in importance. Much of the world will take some time to progress to the same extent as the richer nations but mutation monitoring will continue. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I also saw this but in the same article they said this “new variant” had been found in Denmark, Nigeria and the US so unsure why the BBC called it a new “UK variant”
Perhaps it's a new addition to the UK's flourishing collection?
No doubt we will go through the alphabet A to Z of variants and after Z start again. "
That would be fun. Im guessing the weather presenter will start off the report with which covid is present at the minute. Give it a name like storms |
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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago
North Yorkshire |
Why the sudden emergence of a virus with multiple mutations? We never had one two years ago. We never had one ten years ago. When was the last time we had a virus with multiple mutations? If we have ever had one such. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The 32-million target would be hit on Easter Sunday, 4 April.
Completing the first nine groups would mean that some protection against coronavirus had been offered to everybody aged over 50, the clinically extremely vulnerable, those with underlying health conditions, and NHS and care workers. Together they account for 99% of all UK deaths from the pandemic."
So WHY the endless pessimism on these forums? |
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"Surely though people understood that the Flu virus mutates which is why there is a booster vaccine every winter to cope with new strains/mutations that appeared over the previous year (though strictly speaking the booster shot is always approx 6mths out of date so misses some strains)
It is this mutating nature of Covid that will make annual boosters necessary and some strains will inevitably get loose meaning, like Flu, there will be deaths every year.
Cheery - sorry folks!
I think it's that the situation is more complex than we feared and seems to be deteriorating. Mutation doesn't always mean mutation with a disadvantage to humans.
True. When viruses mutate they become less dangerous (as don’t want to kill their host) but more transmissible (as they want to reproduce and spread)."
You make viruses sound intelegent but they are biological machines AND parhaps they are more intelegent than most humans |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why the sudden emergence of a virus with multiple mutations? We never had one two years ago. We never had one ten years ago. When was the last time we had a virus with multiple mutations? If we have ever had one such. "
Really ?
REALLY? |
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"Why the sudden emergence of a virus with multiple mutations? We never had one two years ago. We never had one ten years ago. When was the last time we had a virus with multiple mutations? If we have ever had one such. "
Not sure if this is a wind up or if you're being serious. In which case I suggest a very brief read up on some gcse biology about the basics of viruses would help your understanding of how viruses work. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Why the sudden emergence of a virus with multiple mutations? We never had one two years ago. We never had one ten years ago. When was the last time we had a virus with multiple mutations? If we have ever had one such. "
Basic virology mate things mutate to survive in deifferent hosts with different physiologies |
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