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"has had to issue an apology for driving to Cornwall from London after a distressing call from her parents i have total sympathy with her sometimes i feel no one truly understands what home means.. bet she felt she was going home d" home has different meaning depending on the context the stay at home context is pretty clear and its not some nostalgic where i grew up home | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work " i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work " I would not. Stay at home means stay at home. I would be desperately ringing around to find help for them closer to home. | |||
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"No worse than the droves of people going to “The Range” or “BnM” for essential items. Essential items at those two stores??? Sorry, it’s bollocks!! " i might go to home bargains later for some TP cause ive just put the last rolls from the cupboard in the bathroom ... my TP is definitely essential lol and a hell of a lot cheaper than at the supermarket... been hanging off til i need a few things though | |||
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"get out the whips and flog her til she's red raw.. maybe retribution will be suitably served then ffs " I'm sorry you asked a question and got answers you didn't like. | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work " I’d do it for anyone who needed me, friend, family or foe. Shoot me now... | |||
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"No worse than the droves of people going to “The Range” or “BnM” for essential items. Essential items at those two stores??? Sorry, it’s bollocks!! " yes I really beginning to feel the bollocks now | |||
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"get out the whips and flog her til she's red raw.. maybe retribution will be suitably served then ffs " to be fair i don’t think she deserves any further punishment than you or i would get - so a fine for breaking the rules but she knows she chose a career in the public eye and therefore she knows what to expect if her actions were made public... she has only herself to blame i hate trolls that bully people online for just who they are - like when they pick on their image / talent etc ... but this isn't that , shes being called out on her own actions... easily avoided by just doing what the rest of us have to ... staying at home | |||
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"get out the whips and flog her til she's red raw.. maybe retribution will be suitably served then ffs I'm sorry you asked a question and got answers you didn't like." not at all and some have agreed. you going to cast the first stone?i try not to have zealous attitudes in either camp... there has to be some leeway..not everything is black and white | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday " I have not see my elderly parents for ages( like so many others ) Think I will drive the 175 miles and tell them Cummings and Holden said it was alright, see how I get on . | |||
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"get out the whips and flog her til she's red raw.. maybe retribution will be suitably served then ffs to be fair i don’t think she deserves any further punishment than you or i would get - so a fine for breaking the rules but she knows she chose a career in the public eye and therefore she knows what to expect if her actions were made public... she has only herself to blame i hate trolls that bully people online for just who they are - like when they pick on their image / talent etc ... but this isn't that , shes being called out on her own actions... easily avoided by just doing what the rest of us have to ... staying at home " Hope you're never in a similar situation and you've a home to stay in | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday I have not see my elderly parents for ages( like so many others ) Think I will drive the 175 miles and tell them Cummings and Holden said it was alright, see how I get on ." how distressing would a call be from your parents for you to visit.. deathbed? | |||
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"get out the whips and flog her til she's red raw.. maybe retribution will be suitably served then ffs to be fair i don’t think she deserves any further punishment than you or i would get - so a fine for breaking the rules but she knows she chose a career in the public eye and therefore she knows what to expect if her actions were made public... she has only herself to blame i hate trolls that bully people online for just who they are - like when they pick on their image / talent etc ... but this isn't that , shes being called out on her own actions... easily avoided by just doing what the rest of us have to ... staying at home Hope you're never in a similar situation and you've a home to stay in" and i hope you don’t have to bury anyone in your family from covid because someone bent the rules and brought them the virus your sentiment of trying to apply sympathy to justify it works both ways | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday I have not see my elderly parents for ages( like so many others ) Think I will drive the 175 miles and tell them Cummings and Holden said it was alright, see how I get on . how distressing would a call be from your parents for you to visit.. deathbed? " i heard they burnt the toast well actually i didn’t ... but its as likely a true story and from as relatable a source as the one you have bought into | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday I have not see my elderly parents for ages( like so many others ) Think I will drive the 175 miles and tell them Cummings and Holden said it was alright, see how I get on . how distressing would a call be from your parents for you to visit.. deathbed? " I faced the possibility of this last year. I. Stayed. At. Home. | |||
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"Which so happened to be the week of her birthday and just after she had finished work on Friday"  Such unfortunate timing.  
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday I have not see my elderly parents for ages( like so many others ) Think I will drive the 175 miles and tell them Cummings and Holden said it was alright, see how I get on . how distressing would a call be from your parents for you to visit.. deathbed? I faced the possibility of this last year. I. Stayed. At. Home." why?? reminded me of the terminally ill woman in tears at Christmas when her family decided not to come and visit with the change of guidance.. even tho she only had a few months to live | |||
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"I’m sure the majority of people would act exactly the same if they heard someone they cared about in distress, it’s basic human instinct. Judge your own circumstances, not everyone else's" this all day long xx | |||
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"I’m sure the majority of people would act exactly the same if they heard someone they cared about in distress, it’s basic human instinct. Judge your own circumstances, not everyone else's" I would travel 4,000 miles if someone needed me. I think it's bollocks timing however. | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday I have not see my elderly parents for ages( like so many others ) Think I will drive the 175 miles and tell them Cummings and Holden said it was alright, see how I get on . how distressing would a call be from your parents for you to visit.. deathbed? I faced the possibility of this last year. I. Stayed. At. Home. why?? reminded me of the terminally ill woman in tears at Christmas when her family decided not to come and visit with the change of guidance.. even tho she only had a few months to live " Because me going would not have fixed anything and would only have brought risk to my family's community. I was in constant contact, I held my breath, I waited. Some of us, myself included, have made incredible sacrifices and we're asked to take pity on people who have chosen to put themselves above others. No. (And that's even assuming she didn't just go on a jolly) | |||
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"honest question do you think there are worse things than death? like quality of life. my mum is at her wits end and would probably have been dead already without the rationed human contact I've given her " i think you have a biased view of things because of the difficult circumstances in your family - the reality is most people that get caught swanning about don’t have any reason to do it other than they just wanted to dementia is also a horrible difficult degenerative disease when covid isnt around , i am sorry you are going through it but i suspect it will be just as difficult once restrictions are lifted and your frustration and pain is slightly (but understandably) misplaced at the lockdown | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday I have not see my elderly parents for ages( like so many others ) Think I will drive the 175 miles and tell them Cummings and Holden said it was alright, see how I get on . how distressing would a call be from your parents for you to visit.. deathbed? I faced the possibility of this last year. I. Stayed. At. Home. why?? reminded me of the terminally ill woman in tears at Christmas when her family decided not to come and visit with the change of guidance.. even tho she only had a few months to live " Visiting her would risk giving her covid and then she'd likely only have days to live. | |||
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"I had a distressed call from my daughter in the first lockdown.. she was in a real state. I drove to her within the hour. Lucky thing I did or she wouldn't be here today. The rules now do include to help family or those we care for If emotionally distressed.... as am exemption. If my parents were still alive and it was not something I could sort out without visiting then I would have done so as safely as possible " I would travel a reasonable distance to help someone in distress. Any further and I'd be raising the alarm locally to get them the help they needed. | |||
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"has had to issue an apology for driving to Cornwall from London after a distressing call from her parents i have total sympathy with her sometimes i feel no one truly understands what home means.. bet she felt she was going home d" I don’t know a great deal and I don’t want to dehumanise her, it does however appear a very coincidental time for birthday, after work, and being dropped off outside the parental home rather than simply driving herself. An apology doesn’t really seem to cut it. It’s a fine balance. There are plenty of people breaking the rules far far worse which is just mystifying, but also I would sympathise with someone who felt they had absolutely no choice for the health of themselves and or others. Society in Britain is struggling, clearly, and these decisions don’t help. We don’t need to create an illness of negativity and bitterness and a law is in place, so she appears to have made a mistake, like many others out there. Better than those seeking meets on here, but neither are legal or right. Personally, I wouldn’t have gone unless circumstances were very, very grave. Or of course I needed to test my eyesight, party with Rita Ora etc. | |||
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"It's amazing how easily we've got the stage of policing each other. Ask yourself: If someone wore a mask, travelled to see their mum, kept a mask on, washed hands etc etc. What risk are they causing??? Delivery men are still working. We still handle supermarket goods regularly. If a mask, socially distancing and efficient cleanliness stops the spread, why not let us try live a normal life. I know some people don't follow the rules, but do you really think they follow them in lockdown????" no they clearly don’t all follow them in lockdown , and then when they get caught out we debate the reasons they may have had to justify them breaking the rules your logic that we should all self police and scrap the rules - does that apply just to covid or shall we just get rid of the police force and courts and prisons too ... i mean some people will steal or commit fraud or murder wether we tell them to or not right? | |||
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"It's amazing how easily we've got the stage of policing each other. Ask yourself: If someone wore a mask, travelled to see their mum, kept a mask on, washed hands etc etc. What risk are they causing??? Delivery men are still working. We still handle supermarket goods regularly. If a mask, socially distancing and efficient cleanliness stops the spread, why not let us try live a normal life. I know some people don't follow the rules, but do you really think they follow them in lockdown???? no they clearly don’t all follow them in lockdown , and then when they get caught out we debate the reasons they may have had to justify them breaking the rules your logic that we should all self police and scrap the rules - does that apply just to covid or shall we just get rid of the police force and courts and prisons too ... i mean some people will steal or commit fraud or murder wether we tell them to or not right? " Please read my posts before translating them totally wrong. | |||
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"It's amazing how easily we've got the stage of policing each other. Ask yourself: If someone wore a mask, travelled to see their mum, kept a mask on, washed hands etc etc. What risk are they causing??? Delivery men are still working. We still handle supermarket goods regularly. If a mask, socially distancing and efficient cleanliness stops the spread, why not let us try live a normal life. I know some people don't follow the rules, but do you really think they follow them in lockdown???? no they clearly don’t all follow them in lockdown , and then when they get caught out we debate the reasons they may have had to justify them breaking the rules your logic that we should all self police and scrap the rules - does that apply just to covid or shall we just get rid of the police force and courts and prisons too ... i mean some people will steal or commit fraud or murder wether we tell them to or not right? Please read my posts before translating them totally wrong." please follow through the logic of what your post implies and perhaps it will help you understand why the government have gone for an alternative strategy | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work " If my parents were alive and needed help I would go I don't care if you don't think the timing was convenient as to when she went to be fair so we match on the not caring bit | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work i think the point rugby was making (correct me if wrong) is the distressing call is a convenient excuse thought up after the fact to downplay the fact she just wanted to head there for her birthday " No correcting needed | |||
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"get out the whips and flog her til she's red raw.. maybe retribution will be suitably served then ffs " I would definitely whip and flog her | |||
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"Which so happened to be the week of her birthday and just after she had finished work on Friday" hmm oddly that was the thought going through my mind when i read it, yes we all have emergencies and yes we would have all have responded to calls from elderly parents, but coincidence - hmm maybe not ! | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work I would not. Stay at home means stay at home. I would be desperately ringing around to find help for them closer to home." Does sound a bit fishy, but on the face of it, it isn’t breaking the rules (legally, anyway, possibly not morally) due to the carer exemption. | |||
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"No idea about Amanda Holden's situation, but when West Mercia Police rang me just as lockdown 1 was coming to an end, asking me to drive 3hrs from home to collect my mentally confused father, who'd been found in his car in the middle of nowhere, I got straight in the car and drove to Worcester. I'd do it again now, tomorrow or the day after. My Dad is 81, his only family in the world is me and my brother. If he was in Cornwall, Stornoway or wherever, I'll go and get him. " Completely understandable. | |||
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"The Amanda Holden bashing brigade are out again. Everytime she’s even on the tele there’s a flood of complaints that I’m sure 99% of are 40yo plus Karen’s that are just jealous. Anybody who says they would have done the same in her situation is a liar." I would have done just the same if i had received such a call, all I am questioning is the coincidence of the call, Friday evening, her 50th birthday weekend, all falling at the same time ! Or am i just cynical ? | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different." and if your daughter called you would you have pre prepared overnight bags already waiting with a driver who would normally just bring you home from work? i dont think people actually disagree with helping a family member ... they just think the story about a distressing phone has a strong smell of convenient cover your ass BS | |||
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"No idea about Amanda Holden's situation, but when West Mercia Police rang me just as lockdown 1 was coming to an end, asking me to drive 3hrs from home to collect my mentally confused father, who'd been found in his car in the middle of nowhere, I got straight in the car and drove to Worcester. I'd do it again now, tomorrow or the day after. My Dad is 81, his only family in the world is me and my brother. If he was in Cornwall, Stornoway or wherever, I'll go and get him. " And someone would still moan about it if you did. | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. and if your daughter called you would you have pre prepared overnight bags already waiting with a driver who would normally just bring you home from work? i dont think people actually disagree with helping a family member ... they just think the story about a distressing phone has a strong smell of convenient cover your ass BS " No i wouldn’t and for all we know it could be bs or not. | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different." Absolutely spot on. Get a grip!! | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different." Both my parents, both the one who nearly died last year and the one who didn't, are proud of me for putting my community before my own interests and staying at home. I don't care about the celebrity angle. I care that we have been asked to sacrifice. Some of us have. And we're expected to feel sorry for people who haven't and who've been caught? | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. Both my parents, both the one who nearly died last year and the one who didn't, are proud of me for putting my community before my own interests and staying at home. I don't care about the celebrity angle. I care that we have been asked to sacrifice. Some of us have. And we're expected to feel sorry for people who haven't and who've been caught?" how about it you're parents weren't proud.. but confused.. desperate and begging you? | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. Both my parents, both the one who nearly died last year and the one who didn't, are proud of me for putting my community before my own interests and staying at home. I don't care about the celebrity angle. I care that we have been asked to sacrifice. Some of us have. And we're expected to feel sorry for people who haven't and who've been caught? how about it you're parents weren't proud.. but confused.. desperate and begging you? " In this situation that'd more likely be my grandparents, as my parents are in their early 60s. They have family within ten minutes drive. As do my parents. That's reasonable. Sometimes you have to do things that hurt yourself, and those you love, for the greater good. (This is assuming we believe the story) | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. Both my parents, both the one who nearly died last year and the one who didn't, are proud of me for putting my community before my own interests and staying at home. I don't care about the celebrity angle. I care that we have been asked to sacrifice. Some of us have. And we're expected to feel sorry for people who haven't and who've been caught?" I don’t feel sorry for people who get caught, what i don’t do is believe everything in the news, I stick to the rules, but i do know one thing like as i said if my daughter was in trouble id be there, thats reality, im quite sure my parents wouldn’t be proud of me if i didn’t go to help. | |||
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"how many people wouldn't do the same..? we have no idea how distressing the call was and i really don't care when she finishes work " I am at my sons. Travelled from North east to Milton keynes. I live alone and they are my support. So go ahead attack me. Im cool with it. And understand why she did it. As long as you abide by safety rules as I have been for nearly a year | |||
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"one of the most pointless people on tv. nothing about her and bland as fuck." Nice. Speaks highly of you | |||
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"The prompt I was answering was along the lines of, what if it was your parents. What about a deathbed call. As if no one would stay at home under those circumstances. And I did. I'm sorry you don't agree with me, I'm not saying everyone should do as I did, but it's not a black and white "everyone who loves their family would travel a long distance despite the rules." I love my family. I was desperately worried, scared, and sad. And I stayed at home. If we're to feel for Amanda Holden, assuming her story is true, think of those who've missed deaths, who've sat in cars while their partners have given birth, all sorts of sacrifices that seem to be forgotten." To be fair Swing, a deathbed call for your family already has its complications even without Covid. My dad was picked up by the police, they called me, I went. He has no one else. My Grandad was dying, the hospital called me at 05:30 because I was the closest relative who wasn't in isolation. I went. I'd go again for my family in those circumstances. On neither occasion do I understand that I've broken lockdown rules. Both occasions were requested by the authorities for vulnerable/dying people. I do fortnightly shopping for one of my mates from wheelchair basketball who is shielding - masks are worn etc but I have to take the shopping inside his house because he cannot pick up the bags. This is one reason why he cannot easily use online deliveries because now, they won't deliver inside the house (I get it, but not everyone can pick up bags off the drive). I'm disabled myself but less so than him. My brother picks and bags up the shopping in his Aldi store, I rock up and pay and deliver. I'll carry on until he can get deliveries indoors. | |||
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"I think I would have more respect for people if they just said , OK I cocked up but I wanted to see them and thought the risk was less now they have had their vaccines and I have been tested at work...I will hold my hands up, gimme my fine "I definitely agree with this. However I think if she did that it would encourage more people to do the same as 'caring, thoughtful Amanda'. How it is now, the papers can slag her off for breaking lockdown rules and I think it is less likely people would do the same as 'nasty irresponsible Amanda'. | |||
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"The prompt I was answering was along the lines of, what if it was your parents. What about a deathbed call. As if no one would stay at home under those circumstances. And I did. I'm sorry you don't agree with me, I'm not saying everyone should do as I did, but it's not a black and white "everyone who loves their family would travel a long distance despite the rules." I love my family. I was desperately worried, scared, and sad. And I stayed at home. If we're to feel for Amanda Holden, assuming her story is true, think of those who've missed deaths, who've sat in cars while their partners have given birth, all sorts of sacrifices that seem to be forgotten. To be fair Swing, a deathbed call for your family already has its complications even without Covid. My dad was picked up by the police, they called me, I went. He has no one else. My Grandad was dying, the hospital called me at 05:30 because I was the closest relative who wasn't in isolation. I went. I'd go again for my family in those circumstances. On neither occasion do I understand that I've broken lockdown rules. Both occasions were requested by the authorities for vulnerable/dying people. I do fortnightly shopping for one of my mates from wheelchair basketball who is shielding - masks are worn etc but I have to take the shopping inside his house because he cannot pick up the bags. This is one reason why he cannot easily use online deliveries because now, they won't deliver inside the house (I get it, but not everyone can pick up bags off the drive). I'm disabled myself but less so than him. My brother picks and bags up the shopping in his Aldi store, I rock up and pay and deliver. I'll carry on until he can get deliveries indoors." Yeah, I'm not saying everyone should or would do as I did. My situation is extreme. But the idea that no one would stay at home, no one would arrange things closer to home, is flatly wrong, you know? | |||
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"get out the whips and flog her til she's red raw.. maybe retribution will be suitably served then ffs to be fair i don’t think she deserves any further punishment than you or i would get - so a fine for breaking the rules but she knows she chose a career in the public eye and therefore she knows what to expect if her actions were made public... she has only herself to blame i hate trolls that bully people online for just who they are - like when they pick on their image / talent etc ... but this isn't that , shes being called out on her own actions... easily avoided by just doing what the rest of us have to ... staying at home Hope you're never in a similar situation and you've a home to stay in and i hope you don’t have to bury anyone in your family from covid because someone bent the rules and brought them the virus your sentiment of trying to apply sympathy to justify it works both ways " You have to have covid to pass it on. If you dnt mix with anyone else or rarely go shopping not likely to happen. | |||
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"The prompt I was answering was along the lines of, what if it was your parents. What about a deathbed call. As if no one would stay at home under those circumstances. And I did. I'm sorry you don't agree with me, I'm not saying everyone should do as I did, but it's not a black and white "everyone who loves their family would travel a long distance despite the rules." I love my family. I was desperately worried, scared, and sad. And I stayed at home. If we're to feel for Amanda Holden, assuming her story is true, think of those who've missed deaths, who've sat in cars while their partners have given birth, all sorts of sacrifices that seem to be forgotten." Sorry i get what you’re saying but i would not stay at home, what is the difference me visiting a dying, in desperate need family member, to me going to work in someones house as i do now and have all along? if i have the same ppe on what is the difference?. Yes id be breaking the rules, but in reality its no difference so i would go? | |||
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"So this is what we are becoming as a society, a nation of curtain twitchers and virtue signallers? If this is what covid is turning us into then society is fucked." Have become, not becoming. | |||
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"The prompt I was answering was along the lines of, what if it was your parents. What about a deathbed call. As if no one would stay at home under those circumstances. And I did. I'm sorry you don't agree with me, I'm not saying everyone should do as I did, but it's not a black and white "everyone who loves their family would travel a long distance despite the rules." I love my family. I was desperately worried, scared, and sad. And I stayed at home. If we're to feel for Amanda Holden, assuming her story is true, think of those who've missed deaths, who've sat in cars while their partners have given birth, all sorts of sacrifices that seem to be forgotten. Sorry i get what you’re saying but i would not stay at home, what is the difference me visiting a dying, in desperate need family member, to me going to work in someones house as i do now and have all along? if i have the same ppe on what is the difference?. Yes id be breaking the rules, but in reality its no difference so i would go? " I don’t think her parents were dying though as she left the next day, only spent the night if the reports are true and why have somebody drive her there, leave and come back the next day, now that’s unnecessary. I get it’s hard to follow the rules, to have all work and no play but surely if we didn’t there would be 2000 deaths a day instead of 1000. Curtain twitchers we are not and reported nobody although seen a lot, just hope people go by their conscious. | |||
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" Sorry i get what you’re saying but i would not stay at home, what is the difference me visiting a dying, in desperate need family member, to me going to work in someones house as i do now and have all along? if i have the same ppe on what is the difference?. Yes id be breaking the rules, but in reality its no difference so i would go? " I think it is because we are not likely to stay socially distanced with relatives and I don't mean just to cuddle them When the lockdown started easing and you could meet in a park etc , we did that. When people walked passed we all moved away from them until they had gone and then realise we were all stood next to each other while doing that, for strangers it is easy to distance, for relatives you are comfortable with you don't even notice how close you are to them. We obviously all moved away on realising but it is so easy to forget | |||
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"So this is what we are becoming as a society, a nation of curtain twitchers and virtue signallers? If this is what covid is turning us into then society is fucked. Oh no, not people admitting to doing the right thing. How awful." What's the right thing then? Grassing up a neighbour because somebody has jumped to conclusions? Maybe we should trust our neighbours a bit more, it's the right thing in the long run. | |||
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"So this is what we are becoming as a society, a nation of curtain twitchers and virtue signallers? If this is what covid is turning us into then society is fucked. Oh no, not people admitting to doing the right thing. How awful. What's the right thing then? Grassing up a neighbour because somebody has jumped to conclusions? Maybe we should trust our neighbours a bit more, it's the right thing in the long run. " People I've "grassed up" in the past year. Zero. | |||
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"So this is what we are becoming as a society, a nation of curtain twitchers and virtue signallers? If this is what covid is turning us into then society is fucked. Oh no, not people admitting to doing the right thing. How awful. What's the right thing then? Grassing up a neighbour because somebody has jumped to conclusions? Maybe we should trust our neighbours a bit more, it's the right thing in the long run. " if they havent done anything wrong they arent being grassed up are they ... they are brought to the attention of the authorities who get the story instead of assuming and say nothing to see here and then move along | |||
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"So this is what we are becoming as a society, a nation of curtain twitchers and virtue signallers? If this is what covid is turning us into then society is fucked. Oh no, not people admitting to doing the right thing. How awful. What's the right thing then? Grassing up a neighbour because somebody has jumped to conclusions? Maybe we should trust our neighbours a bit more, it's the right thing in the long run. if they havent done anything wrong they arent being grassed up are they ... they are brought to the attention of the authorities who get the story instead of assuming and say nothing to see here and then move along " Not many people would appreciate blue sirens turning up at the door and accusations being levied at them if they'd attended a family emergency or illness. All it does is create tension and resentment between neighbours. | |||
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" Sorry i get what you’re saying but i would not stay at home, what is the difference me visiting a dying, in desperate need family member, to me going to work in someones house as i do now and have all along? if i have the same ppe on what is the difference?. Yes id be breaking the rules, but in reality its no difference so i would go? I think it is because we are not likely to stay socially distanced with relatives and I don't mean just to cuddle them When the lockdown started easing and you could meet in a park etc , we did that. When people walked passed we all moved away from them until they had gone and then realise we were all stood next to each other while doing that, for strangers it is easy to distance, for relatives you are comfortable with you don't even notice how close you are to them. We obviously all moved away on realising but it is so easy to forget" Yes i get what you’re saying, but for me nd i bet most people in care / disability work (me) unfortunately it’s impossible to socially distance, its difficult and a daily occurrence, my work is sensitive and sometimes urgent, close contact is unavoidable, thats my reasoning behind what i said for me personally about one of my family members and being no difference to my work. Socially distancing i think for example shopping or getting fuel is fairly easy, but i see amd work in a different circumstance to that. I expect there are some members here who work on building sites, i do from time to time installing what i do, and im glad i don’t work on them constantly, because from my experience there is virtually zero social distancing and it can mame me anxious. | |||
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"I don't know the truth about AH and the phone call, however if i go a distressing phone call from or about my family (husband, children, grandchildren, parents) i would go to their help straight away. In fact i did, my in laws needed emergency help, they were unable to deal with the emergency themselves so we went to help. If we hadn't gone then one of them would probably be dead." Get a * | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. Absolutely spot on. Get a grip!!" Totally agree, folk need to get a grip. All this rushing to condemn and snitch on others is like nazi Germany! | |||
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"So this is what we are becoming as a society, a nation of curtain twitchers and virtue signallers? If this is what covid is turning us into then society is fucked. Oh no, not people admitting to doing the right thing. How awful. What's the right thing then? Grassing up a neighbour because somebody has jumped to conclusions? Maybe we should trust our neighbours a bit more, it's the right thing in the long run. if they havent done anything wrong they arent being grassed up are they ... they are brought to the attention of the authorities who get the story instead of assuming and say nothing to see here and then move along Not many people would appreciate blue sirens turning up at the door and accusations being levied at them if they'd attended a family emergency or illness. All it does is create tension and resentment between neighbours." 
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. Absolutely spot on. Get a grip!! Totally agree, folk need to get a grip. All this rushing to condemn and snitch on others is like nazi Germany! " yes its exactly like sending folk off to concentration camps because our leader is a bigot 
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"They made her a cake fir her birthday , stop being mean , she’s famous and hot and so allowed to break the rules " I agree totally Hot as fook for 50. Give her a break, her folks are knocking on a bit, and the “rules” are bonkers anyway. I’ve never stopped seeing my parents throughout this shower, not possible due to childcare but they wouldn’t have had it anyway. 15000 people watched the India v England test match today in an over-populated and economically diverse country. 15000!!! Meanwhile here in the UK we can’t go for a pint, have a meal out or get hair cut - and sexy Amanda can’t rush to see her parents who have a problem. Shower of shinola | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. Absolutely spot on. Get a grip!! Totally agree, folk need to get a grip. All this rushing to condemn and snitch on others is like nazi Germany! " No. No it is not. Such a comparison is utterly absurd. | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. Absolutely spot on. Get a grip!! Totally agree, folk need to get a grip. All this rushing to condemn and snitch on others is like nazi Germany! " If someone reports their neighbour for Covid breaches, does that neighbour get taken away and shot or gassed in a mass extermination? So, fuck all like Nazi Germany then. Stop belittling the Holocaust by comparing it to anything to do with Covid and the lockdown. It's puerile and offensive. | |||
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"If my daughter needed help, was in danger or some kind of trouble i would be there as quick as i could, lockdown or not. I mean ffs some people need to get a grip, ive been out working most of the lockdown, interacting with people, whats the diffence if my daughter needed help desperately. That is the reality of it and anyone who says they’d do differently i don’t believe, try and justify as much as you want, its easy to come up woth something sat behind a keyboard, but the reality is very different. Absolutely spot on. Get a grip!! Totally agree, folk need to get a grip. All this rushing to condemn and snitch on others is like nazi Germany! No. No it is not. Such a comparison is utterly absurd." You’re right, it’s more like communist Bulgaria or China when 1 in 10 were government spies | |||
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"K's mum was diagnosed with dementia and alzheimer's in Oct, had a fall just before xmas and had to stay in a home for a month, while there was dia6with terminal cancer and given a few weeks to live, she has now moved into our granny annexe to spend her last few weeks with us, her three other daughters visit at least once a week each, frankly I couldnt give a toss if any of that is breaking the rules any decent human would do it, if she catches covid(unlikely as has had the jab) and died it would be a release from her suffering, if my kids needed me I would also go to their aid, MY responsibility is to my family not anyone else's if I got fined then so be it that wouldnt stop me. " | |||
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"It amused me how her agent said she was devastated to have had to break the rules on this one occasion...I highly suspect she was more devastated at being caught and the press being told! I'm not sure why the statement also said how she felt that she wasn't putting her parents at risk...that's a completely irrelevant issue with regard to breaking the law. It's like saying Lewis Hamilton drove at 70 in a 30 limit but he said it was fine because he's the world's best racing driver and driving fast is his career! The law's the law and is there for a reason. And if she had legitimate reason to be at her parents for an emergency etc then it's a non story and she should have said the police agreed her visit was essential..." | |||
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"K's mum was diagnosed with dementia and alzheimer's in Oct, had a fall just before xmas and had to stay in a home for a month, while there was dia6with terminal cancer and given a few weeks to live, she has now moved into our granny annexe to spend her last few weeks with us, her three other daughters visit at least once a week each, frankly I couldnt give a toss if any of that is breaking the rules any decent human would do it, if she catches covid(unlikely as has had the jab) and died it would be a release from her suffering, if my kids needed me I would also go to their aid, MY responsibility is to my family not anyone else's if I got fined then so be it that wouldnt stop me. " Good on you, i agree, its far too easy for people who it seems to me can work from home and isolate themselves from the real world out there and the people who work with people vulnerable, disabled (what i do) and illnesses, i sympathise with you and wish you and your poor mum well. | |||
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"No worse than the droves of people going to “The Range” or “BnM” for essential items. Essential items at those two stores??? Sorry, it’s bollocks!! " Only if you live in London & drive to Cornwall to shop... | |||
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"K's mum was diagnosed with dementia and alzheimer's in Oct, had a fall just before xmas and had to stay in a home for a month, while there was dia6with terminal cancer and given a few weeks to live, she has now moved into our granny annexe to spend her last few weeks with us, her three other daughters visit at least once a week each, frankly I couldnt give a toss if any of that is breaking the rules any decent human would do it, if she catches covid(unlikely as has had the jab) and died it would be a release from her suffering, if my kids needed me I would also go to their aid, MY responsibility is to my family not anyone else's if I got fined then so be it that wouldnt stop me. " We are exactly the same thinking as you guys. Our family comes first and foremost to us. We would move mountains for them. We can work all week but can't see our family when they need us. Fuck that. | |||
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"K's mum was diagnosed with dementia and alzheimer's in Oct, had a fall just before xmas and had to stay in a home for a month, while there was dia6with terminal cancer and given a few weeks to live, she has now moved into our granny annexe to spend her last few weeks with us, her three other daughters visit at least once a week each, frankly I couldnt give a toss if any of that is breaking the rules any decent human would do it, if she catches covid(unlikely as has had the jab) and died it would be a release from her suffering, if my kids needed me I would also go to their aid, MY responsibility is to my family not anyone else's if I got fined then so be it that wouldnt stop me. " Well said and good for you! | |||
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"shes always been sly,cheated on every man she has been with,whats his name from men behaving badly just springs to mind...theres been loads lol "You know her well then ? ! She looks fabulous for 50. I suspect you don't need to worry about her targeting you, your heart is safe. | |||
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"I guess we would all support her if there was a concern with her parents. It’s the suspicion that she wanted to visit for her birthday. Is she telling a porky? " Exactly and some people seem to get a lot more understanding than others, usual;y due to their politics or media profiles. | |||
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"has had to issue an apology for driving to Cornwall from London after a distressing call from her parents i have total sympathy with her sometimes i feel no one truly understands what home means.. bet she felt she was going home d" I think a lot of us know what home means hun..my kids dad had a heart attack late last year only in his late 40s..u know what my kids wanted desperately to see him but knew best in his interests not to..so Amanda Holden fuck off | |||
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"It amused me how her agent said she was devastated to have had to break the rules on this one occasion...I highly suspect she was more devastated at being caught and the press being told! I'm not sure why the statement also said how she felt that she wasn't putting her parents at risk...that's a completely irrelevant issue with regard to breaking the law. It's like saying Lewis Hamilton drove at 70 in a 30 limit but he said it was fine because he's the world's best racing driver and driving fast is his career! The law's the law and is there for a reason. And if she had legitimate reason to be at her parents for an emergency etc then it's a non story and she should have said the police agreed her visit was essential... "this | |||
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"Does it matter. It doesn't affect you. I can understand she wants to visit her parents. Stop being holier than thou. Dnt tell me you have done absolutely everything by the book. Im sure if you dig deep you will see you broke some rule. Im not saying she was right but we all need our family " So you agree with me then.I think when you are in the public eye you have a resposability to to follow rules more than you or me,the price of fame. For the record I have a sick family member 200 miles away will not visit because I believe it is wrong at this time.She would not expect me to either | |||
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"I've been sticking to the rules for months and not gone anywhere, not seen anyone either but if I got a call like that from one of my parents, I would go straight to them. In the case of an emergency, it is allowed to go and care for family x" True all I said was it true that is all | |||
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