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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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just heard Isle of man has come out of all restrictions and people are hugging and everything. i know its only a got a tenth of the population of a British city but some optimism
no hols tho.. you still have to quarantine on entering
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
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Isle of Man have had no restrictions for many many months. 4 weeks ago they found 4 cases in the community so went into an Island wide lock down for 3 weeks. Today is their first day of the Island getting back to normal. Guernsey have gone the same way last week. They too had been back to normal but again some cases were found in the community so instantly, and no hesitating, they went back into lockdown. Just shows doing things quick and hard, no pun intended, gets the virus under control and saves lives. |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"The Isle of Man had a tough stance on anybody breaking restrictions from the beginning so they had high compliance. "
They don't mess about. If you are told to isolate and you break the law by coming out you WILL face 4 weeks at Jurby, the best prison on the Island. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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they only outlawed public flogging relatively recently..
no its quarantine that's done the trick and a tiny population but wish i was there right now 
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"just heard Isle of man has come out of all restrictions and people are hugging and everything. i know its only a got a tenth of the population of a British city but some optimism
no hols tho.. you still have to quarantine on entering
d"
Kudos to them.
From the outset, their strategy was to eradicate the virus rather than ‘learn to live with it’ |
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"they only outlawed public flogging relatively recently..
no its quarantine that's done the trick and a tiny population but wish i was there right now
d"
Wonder if that jet ski guy can go back now? |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped "
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence."
 totally agree with you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Isle of Man have had no restrictions for many many months. 4 weeks ago they found 4 cases in the community so went into an Island wide lock down for 3 weeks. Today is their first day of the Island getting back to normal. Guernsey have gone the same way last week. They too had been back to normal but again some cases were found in the community so instantly, and no hesitating, they went back into lockdown. Just shows doing things quick and hard, no pun intended, gets the virus under control and saves lives."
There can be absolutely no comparison with the islands that are minute. There's more people in Bolton than all those |
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"Isle of Man have had no restrictions for many many months. 4 weeks ago they found 4 cases in the community so went into an Island wide lock down for 3 weeks. Today is their first day of the Island getting back to normal. Guernsey have gone the same way last week. They too had been back to normal but again some cases were found in the community so instantly, and no hesitating, they went back into lockdown. Just shows doing things quick and hard, no pun intended, gets the virus under control and saves lives.
There can be absolutely no comparison with the islands that are minute. There's more people in Bolton than all those "
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence."
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing "
The hindsight that Jacinda Ardern had in March? Or Scott Morrison?
Poor widdle Boris. Expecting him to have the resources to develop a strong scientific understanding of countries a fraction of the size of the UK.
Rivers of blood on his hands, one of the worst global responses. But he can tie his shoes. World beating! |
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"Isle of Man have had no restrictions for many many months. 4 weeks ago they found 4 cases in the community so went into an Island wide lock down for 3 weeks. Today is their first day of the Island getting back to normal. Guernsey have gone the same way last week. They too had been back to normal but again some cases were found in the community so instantly, and no hesitating, they went back into lockdown. Just shows doing things quick and hard, no pun intended, gets the virus under control and saves lives.
There can be absolutely no comparison with the islands that are minute. There's more people in Bolton than all those "
It's just a matter of scale that's all. The border control is exactly the same as a small island. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing "
Have we only just discovered that we are an island? |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing
Have we only just discovered that we are an island?"
Do we somehow have a policy handicap on New Zealand? |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing "
I think if UK had had much more compliance by the public and it was policed from the outset things might, just might, have been better. All these people blaming Boris and clapping the NHS while they were still out n about and having parties was a disgrace.
People who live on The Isle of Man have much more respect for people and themselves, well, respect for society really, so yes its a small Island but the people there are just amazing and so kind to their fellow man/woman (political correctness) |
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"just heard Isle of man has come out of all restrictions and people are hugging and everything. i know its only a got a tenth of the population of a British city but some optimism
no hols tho.. you still have to quarantine on entering
d"
Good for them. I loved the Isle of Man. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing
I think if UK had had much more compliance by the public and it was policed from the outset things might, just might, have been better. All these people blaming Boris and clapping the NHS while they were still out n about and having parties was a disgrace.
People who live on The Isle of Man have much more respect for people and themselves, well, respect for society really, so yes its a small Island but the people there are just amazing and so kind to their fellow man/woman (political correctness)"
I blamed Boris while I stayed the hell at home, supported the vulnerable, wore a mask before it was recommended, etc. |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing
I think if UK had had much more compliance by the public and it was policed from the outset things might, just might, have been better. All these people blaming Boris and clapping the NHS while they were still out n about and having parties was a disgrace.
People who live on The Isle of Man have much more respect for people and themselves, well, respect for society really, so yes its a small Island but the people there are just amazing and so kind to their fellow man/woman (political correctness)
I blamed Boris while I stayed the hell at home, supported the vulnerable, wore a mask before it was recommended, etc."
Same here we started to stay in 2 weeks before the March lockdown. Shopping once every 2 weeks late at night with our masks and getting laughed at by the crazy people in the supermarket. We blame the stupid people who can't workout what 2 metres is and have no respect for people, have no regard for peoples well being, no problem spreading the virus and prepared to let people die |
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"Sorry OP we are getting drawn in, this is about the Isle of Man. We try and stay away from the virus section for this very reason. So Hooray to the people of the Isle of Man   "
Isle of Man could work hear think the deiferance is comunity and every one knowing every one. if you sneezed some one would know.
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Perth, Australia found 1 infected person this weekend - a security guard from a traveller quarantine/isolation section. First case in months.
Lockdown within 24 hours.
Pretty much what we should have done at the start. Local lockdown, isolation and contact tracing. Immediately, not after lots of dithering and ums and errs, whilst thinking and speaking to the public and planning some large public social gatherings to go ahead |
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"Perth, Australia found 1 infected person this weekend - a security guard from a traveller quarantine/isolation section. First case in months.
Lockdown within 24 hours.
Pretty much what we should have done at the start. Local lockdown, isolation and contact tracing. Immediately, not after lots of dithering and ums and errs, whilst thinking and speaking to the public and planning some large public social gatherings to go ahead "
Late last year Brisbane found one infection and had a three day lockdown.
Australia gave power to the states and fortunately they have a few more brain cells than ScoMo  |
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"One of the reasons we have the issues have can be attributed to density on 2 counts
It is down the dense population .... and a dense population!
R x"
Three factors. Dense government, dense population, dense population. |
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"just heard Isle of man has come out of all restrictions and people are hugging and everything. i know its only a got a tenth of the population of a British city but some optimism
no hols tho.. you still have to quarantine on entering
d"
You have to ask what they've done to achieve that? In terms of leaders, policies and in terms of how the population have behaved.
It's just not comparable unfortunately. Though well done for them. Perhaps if we had isolated our big cities in similar ways, enforced the rules in similar ways, restricted travel in similar ways and behaved in similar ways we might have had a better outcome... Its a moot point though it shows what can be achieved when everyone pulls together. |
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"One of the reasons we have the issues have can be attributed to density on 2 counts
It is down the dense population .... and a dense population!
R x
So if you catch it ,you are thick?"
Sometimes absolutely. |
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"just heard Isle of man has come out of all restrictions and people are hugging and everything. i know its only a got a tenth of the population of a British city but some optimism
no hols tho.. you still have to quarantine on entering
d
You have to ask what they've done to achieve that? In terms of leaders, policies and in terms of how the population have behaved.
It's just not comparable unfortunately. Though well done for them. Perhaps if we had isolated our big cities in similar ways, enforced the rules in similar ways, restricted travel in similar ways and behaved in similar ways we might have had a better outcome... Its a moot point though it shows what can be achieved when everyone pulls together. "
If the government had said "borders closed except trade, limited exceptions, you can apply to enter or leave, get upset if you want but tough" then we'd have ended social distancing in Great Britain months ago. |
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"One of the reasons we have the issues have can be attributed to density on 2 counts
It is down the dense population .... and a dense population!
R x
So if you catch it ,you are thick?
Sometimes absolutely. "
Well if you will go round shaking hands with covid patients, I suppose the cap fits. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing
I think if UK had had much more compliance by the public and it was policed from the outset things might, just might, have been better. All these people blaming Boris and clapping the NHS while they were still out n about and having parties was a disgrace.
People who live on The Isle of Man have much more respect for people and themselves, well, respect for society really, so yes its a small Island but the people there are just amazing and so kind to their fellow man/woman (political correctness)"
“........People who live on The Isle of Man have much more respect for people and themselves, well, respect for society really....”
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That’s true
And you will find that those countries who have a ‘community spirit’ among their population, with respect for leaders and each other; - those countries have had a better grip on the virus with less negative impact. |
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This is one of the craziest threads yet. It’s not very hard to lock down or socially distance in the Isle of Man. It’s miles from anywhere and no one has any reason to go there. You could close the borders until the end of time and no one would care. I bet the Falkland Islands are Covid free too. But well done Isle of Man, you plucky little offshore tax haven. I’ll make sure I set up my next tax avoidance structure there. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence."
‘Shutting ours borders completely is impossible because of the way we live in the UK. Even if we had been able to stop air travel we have thousands of lorries every day coming into the UK to supply us with food and other essentials. Talk of closing the borders in the UK is a complete nonsense. |
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Every lockdown they shut the island, only essential travel was allowed.
You break the rules, you get a stay in the luxury Jurby hotel. That's the island prison, in case you did not know.
They had over 100 days of no restrictions. |
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"they only outlawed public flogging relatively recently..
no its quarantine that's done the trick and a tiny population but wish i was there right now
d
Wonder if that jet ski guy can go back now?"
I heard he is banned for life, maybe he can get a smaller jet ski he might get away with it. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
‘Shutting ours borders completely is impossible because of the way we live in the UK. Even if we had been able to stop air travel we have thousands of lorries every day coming into the UK to supply us with food and other essentials. Talk of closing the borders in the UK is a complete nonsense."
So biosecurity measures couldn't have been put into place to minimise spread?
We couldn't have closed the borders to all but food, whether or not biosecurity measures could be achieved?
Poor widdle Britain. So incompetent but with world beating pluck. |
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"they only outlawed public flogging relatively recently..
no its quarantine that's done the trick and a tiny population but wish i was there right now
d
Wonder if that jet ski guy can go back now?
I heard he is banned for life, maybe he can get a smaller jet ski he might get away with it."
Harsh that |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
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"they only outlawed public flogging relatively recently..
no its quarantine that's done the trick and a tiny population but wish i was there right now
d
Wonder if that jet ski guy can go back now?
I heard he is banned for life, maybe he can get a smaller jet ski he might get away with it.
Harsh that"
There are lots of people banned. Few years ago a bloke threw an empty beer can on the track at TT. He could have killed someone. He was arrested put in Jurby, fined and Banned. Just like the Jet Ski man. He was arrested (well once he was heard bragging in a cafe in Douglas some weeks later) He could have killed people if he reintroduced the virus so he was put in Jurby, fined and Banned. One less diddly wack to worry about on the Island. Wonder if his girl friend will move off the Island now to be with him, which is why he jet skied from Irvine to Ramsey |
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"they only outlawed public flogging relatively recently..
no its quarantine that's done the trick and a tiny population but wish i was there right now
d
Wonder if that jet ski guy can go back now?
I heard he is banned for life, maybe he can get a smaller jet ski he might get away with it.
Harsh that
There are lots of people banned. Few years ago a bloke threw an empty beer can on the track at TT. He could have killed someone. He was arrested put in Jurby, fined and Banned. Just like the Jet Ski man. He was arrested (well once he was heard bragging in a cafe in Douglas some weeks later) He could have killed people if he reintroduced the virus so he was put in Jurby, fined and Banned. One less diddly wack to worry about on the Island. Wonder if his girl friend will move off the Island now to be with him, which is why he jet skied from Irvine to Ramsey"
Wonder if he'll start whining about his human right to go wherever he wants being violated.... |
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"Isle of Man have had no restrictions for many many months. 4 weeks ago they found 4 cases in the community so went into an Island wide lock down for 3 weeks. Today is their first day of the Island getting back to normal. Guernsey have gone the same way last week. They too had been back to normal but again some cases were found in the community so instantly, and no hesitating, they went back into lockdown. Just shows doing things quick and hard, no pun intended, gets the virus under control and saves lives.
There can be absolutely no comparison with the islands that are minute. There's more people in Bolton than all those "
Bolton is jolly big, indeed. I found out today that the poxy bit of the world we live in (technically part of Bolton) has a bigger population than the whole of Kendal (which is much bigger geographically). |
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"they only outlawed public flogging relatively recently..
no its quarantine that's done the trick and a tiny population but wish i was there right now
d
Wonder if that jet ski guy can go back now?
I heard he is banned for life, maybe he can get a smaller jet ski he might get away with it.
Harsh that
There are lots of people banned. Few years ago a bloke threw an empty beer can on the track at TT. He could have killed someone. He was arrested put in Jurby, fined and Banned. Just like the Jet Ski man. He was arrested (well once he was heard bragging in a cafe in Douglas some weeks later) He could have killed people if he reintroduced the virus so he was put in Jurby, fined and Banned. One less diddly wack to worry about on the Island. Wonder if his girl friend will move off the Island now to be with him, which is why he jet skied from Irvine to Ramsey
Wonder if he'll start whining about his human right to go wherever he wants being violated...."
Yeah damm those pesky human rights |
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Heres an interesting article... I wonder how many of these happened on the Isle of Man.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-boat-party-acton-canal-fines-b918086.html
Ever wonder why we are struggling? |
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"Heres an interesting article... I wonder how many of these happened on the Isle of Man.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-boat-party-acton-canal-fines-b918086.html
Ever wonder why we are struggling? "
People are going to break the rules
There was quite a few over the weekend.
Considering we live in a country of over 60m people, id say the vast majority have obeyed those rules. |
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"Heres an interesting article... I wonder how many of these happened on the Isle of Man.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-boat-party-acton-canal-fines-b918086.html
Ever wonder why we are struggling?
People are going to break the rules
There was quite a few over the weekend.
Considering we live in a country of over 60m people, id say the vast majority have obeyed those rules."
Perhaps but when it's being compared to a tiny island of low pop density where they self police and yes inform on breakers its important to compare like with like.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped "
Do tbey have the same % of idiots to fuck up quarantine efforts as the mainland? |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
Do tbey have the same % of idiots to fuck up quarantine efforts as the mainland? "
If the government had hard closed the borders then the idiots could try to fuck it up but also die mad about it. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
Do tbey have the same % of idiots to fuck up quarantine efforts as the mainland? "
Yes they do. Instead of a fine, they get a two week stay in prison. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped "
Other islands seem to have shown that size doesn't mean anything... it was moving swiftly and using quarantine effectively. An actual lockdown and closing the borders seems to have worked well. No half measures.
Look at Perth ..a single known case of the uk variant and the whole area is locked down plus surrounding areas. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
Other islands seem to have shown that size doesn't mean anything... it was moving swiftly and using quarantine effectively. An actual lockdown and closing the borders seems to have worked well. No half measures.
Look at Perth ..a single known case of the uk variant and the whole area is locked down plus surrounding areas. "
Taiwan is an island with a greater population density than the UK. It's had eight deaths.
Not today... total. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Taiwan?
would you prefer to live in the thrall of China
or die in a multicultural society?
i despise Johnson and the tories but we just don't have the same Culture. Our populace was always going to be more varied in their behavior
why oh why didn't they just close the borders and why did Witty say it didn't matter???
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"Taiwan?
would you prefer to live in the thrall of China
or die in a multicultural society?
i despise Johnson and the tories but we just don't have the same Culture. Our populace was always going to be more varied in their behavior
why oh why didn't they just close the borders and why did Witty say it didn't matter???
d"
It seems every example of someone who's done it there's an excuse. We're not like Taiwan, we're a different culture. We're not like New Zealand, we're closer to other countries. We're not like Australia, we have greater population density.
Lower population density than Taiwan. Similar culture to Australia and New Zealand. Australian cities have population density comparable to UK cities.
Maybe Britain isn't exceptional, maybe it's exceptionally incompetent. |
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"Every lockdown they shut the island, only essential travel was allowed.
You break the rules, you get a stay in the luxury Jurby hotel. That's the island prison, in case you did not know.
They had over 100 days of no restrictions. "
We had no social distancing from June 15th till Jan 6th, pubs and shops open as usual. Was good to live a reasonably normal life, hopefully we can get back to it.
Bit of a downer not being able to take holidays without having to isolate on return but it is what it is. |
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Taiwan is not the People's Republic of China. It's a democratic country with a fully elected government. It's a different culture, yes, but so is France and many people seem happy enough there.
The Taiwanese constitution states: "Taiwan shall be a democratic republic of the people, to be governed by the people and for the people"
Get your Chinas right. There are three. The PRC (mainland China); Taiwan (or the Republic of China - totally separate to the PRC) and Hong Kong (weird status within the PRC but ethnically, linguistically and culturally very different to the majority of the PRC).
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"Taiwan?
would you prefer to live in the thrall of China
or die in a multicultural society?
i despise Johnson and the tories but we just don't have the same Culture. Our populace was always going to be more varied in their behavior
why oh why didn't they just close the borders and why did Witty say it didn't matter???
d
It seems every example of someone who's done it there's an excuse. We're not like Taiwan, we're a different culture. We're not like New Zealand, we're closer to other countries. We're not like Australia, we have greater population density.
Lower population density than Taiwan. Similar culture to Australia and New Zealand. Australian cities have population density comparable to UK cities.
Maybe Britain isn't exceptional, maybe it's exceptionally incompetent."
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"just heard Isle of man has come out of all restrictions and people are hugging and everything. i know its only a got a tenth of the population of a British city but some optimism
no hols tho.. you still have to quarantine on entering
d"
Here's to the iom tt 2022 |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence."
When you say close the border, do you mean to everyone and everything.
Paul was still working abroad so wouldn't have got home.
What about business travel, air freight, trucks, sea freight etc.
Just interested to know when people say close the borders, what exactly do they mean.
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
When you say close the border, do you mean to everyone and everything.
Paul was still working abroad so wouldn't have got home.
What about business travel, air freight, trucks, sea freight etc.
Just interested to know when people say close the borders, what exactly do they mean.
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It means they haven't really thought about it properly. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
When you say close the border, do you mean to everyone and everything.
Paul was still working abroad so wouldn't have got home.
What about business travel, air freight, trucks, sea freight etc.
Just interested to know when people say close the borders, what exactly do they mean.
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No non essential travel. None.
Severely limit business travel and impose compulsory quarantine.
Impose strict biosecurity measures for all necessary trade.
It won't eliminate the problem, but I bet over 100k people wouldn't have died if we'd done it. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
When you say close the border, do you mean to everyone and everything.
Paul was still working abroad so wouldn't have got home.
What about business travel, air freight, trucks, sea freight etc.
Just interested to know when people say close the borders, what exactly do they mean.
No non essential travel. None.
Severely limit business travel and impose compulsory quarantine.
Impose strict biosecurity measures for all necessary trade.
It won't eliminate the problem, but I bet over 100k people wouldn't have died if we'd done it."
I think it would have worked if it had been strictly adhered to, unfortunately as we all know people would have been jumping up and down about loss of freedoms.
Unfortunately I don't think it would ever have worked.
Much like the "essential" workers I think that it would have been too much of a grey area to be effective.
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"they only outlawed public flogging relatively recently..
no its quarantine that's done the trick and a tiny population but wish i was there right now
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Wonder if that jet ski guy can go back now?
I heard he is banned for life, maybe he can get a smaller jet ski he might get away with it.
Harsh that"
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
When you say close the border, do you mean to everyone and everything.
Paul was still working abroad so wouldn't have got home.
What about business travel, air freight, trucks, sea freight etc.
Just interested to know when people say close the borders, what exactly do they mean.
No non essential travel. None.
Severely limit business travel and impose compulsory quarantine.
Impose strict biosecurity measures for all necessary trade.
It won't eliminate the problem, but I bet over 100k people wouldn't have died if we'd done it.
I think it would have worked if it had been strictly adhered to, unfortunately as we all know people would have been jumping up and down about loss of freedoms.
Unfortunately I don't think it would ever have worked.
Much like the "essential" workers I think that it would have been too much of a grey area to be effective.
"
I don't think anything would have been perfect, but I think at least trying might have saved a lot of lives - and economic catastrophe, and we'd be freer now. (I have thought about it)
I think anyone jumping up and down about their freedoms if this had happened should have been given the dignity their views deserve. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
When you say close the border, do you mean to everyone and everything.
Paul was still working abroad so wouldn't have got home.
What about business travel, air freight, trucks, sea freight etc.
Just interested to know when people say close the borders, what exactly do they mean.
No non essential travel. None.
Severely limit business travel and impose compulsory quarantine.
Impose strict biosecurity measures for all necessary trade.
It won't eliminate the problem, but I bet over 100k people wouldn't have died if we'd done it.
I think it would have worked if it had been strictly adhered to, unfortunately as we all know people would have been jumping up and down about loss of freedoms.
Unfortunately I don't think it would ever have worked.
Much like the "essential" workers I think that it would have been too much of a grey area to be effective.
"
I think non essential travel in a commercial setting would produce very little effect.
No company will want non essential travel and very few would admit to actually paying for something that is non essential.
Trucks don't cross the continent on non essential journeys and I'm sure the company Paul works for wouldn't pay for him to travel abroad if it wasn't essential.
We tend to use just in time for products, no more massive warehousing costs, keeps the costs down, or so I'm told...
Can you imagine the supermarkets running out of goods, components not delivered, supply lines stagnating.
Just a thought.
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
When you say close the border, do you mean to everyone and everything.
Paul was still working abroad so wouldn't have got home.
What about business travel, air freight, trucks, sea freight etc.
Just interested to know when people say close the borders, what exactly do they mean.
No non essential travel. None.
Severely limit business travel and impose compulsory quarantine.
Impose strict biosecurity measures for all necessary trade.
It won't eliminate the problem, but I bet over 100k people wouldn't have died if we'd done it.
I think it would have worked if it had been strictly adhered to, unfortunately as we all know people would have been jumping up and down about loss of freedoms.
Unfortunately I don't think it would ever have worked.
Much like the "essential" workers I think that it would have been too much of a grey area to be effective.
I think non essential travel in a commercial setting would produce very little effect.
No company will want non essential travel and very few would admit to actually paying for something that is non essential.
Trucks don't cross the continent on non essential journeys and I'm sure the company Paul works for wouldn't pay for him to travel abroad if it wasn't essential.
We tend to use just in time for products, no more massive warehousing costs, keeps the costs down, or so I'm told...
Can you imagine the supermarkets running out of goods, components not delivered, supply lines stagnating.
Just a thought.
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Not sure this how it all operates in the Isle of Man which is what the post is all about. |
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"If we only lived on a island.....
tiny islands one thing.. massively densely populated ones is another but quarantine would've helped
If we'd shut the border last March we could have had an unrestricted (except international travel) life by the summer.
Let's stop making excuses for British incompetence.
When you say close the border, do you mean to everyone and everything.
Paul was still working abroad so wouldn't have got home.
What about business travel, air freight, trucks, sea freight etc.
Just interested to know when people say close the borders, what exactly do they mean.
No non essential travel. None.
Severely limit business travel and impose compulsory quarantine.
Impose strict biosecurity measures for all necessary trade.
It won't eliminate the problem, but I bet over 100k people wouldn't have died if we'd done it.
I think it would have worked if it had been strictly adhered to, unfortunately as we all know people would have been jumping up and down about loss of freedoms.
Unfortunately I don't think it would ever have worked.
Much like the "essential" workers I think that it would have been too much of a grey area to be effective.
I think non essential travel in a commercial setting would produce very little effect.
No company will want non essential travel and very few would admit to actually paying for something that is non essential.
Trucks don't cross the continent on non essential journeys and I'm sure the company Paul works for wouldn't pay for him to travel abroad if it wasn't essential.
We tend to use just in time for products, no more massive warehousing costs, keeps the costs down, or so I'm told...
Can you imagine the supermarkets running out of goods, components not delivered, supply lines stagnating.
Just a thought.
"
Yes, if you ignore everything I said about biosecurity zones and define food as non essential, it would have been a disaster.
I agree we should be talking about the Isle of Man, not "why everything on the mainland could not have been less of a clusterfuck" |
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