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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"anyone watched this brilliant program? so many parallels with the virus
and a fabulous lifestyle
any thoughts?
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Yup watched the series and lived the reality... really fab drama
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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they said Freddie Laker created it when he created cheap flights... what a line!! speaks volumes about the current situation of our modern world and opinions spouting from it
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Just finished watching it, I do think it's brilliant, and yes, a lot of similarities to the current situation.
It is also possible to see, by comparing then and now, how fast medicine/drug industry progresses. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"anyone watched this brilliant program? so many parallels with the virus
and a fabulous lifestyle
any thoughts?
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Loved the parallels to what’s happening right now!! |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
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I'm treating myself one episode a week and really enjoyed the first episode. Enjoying the music and humour.
People who have seen the whole series, please don't tell me what's going on. On another website, people are saying exactly that??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Forgive my lack of knowledge, but can anyone explain why the AIDS virus initially ravaged the gay community the way it did.
So many straight people were also having unprotected sex in that time, how did it hit the gay community so bad compared to to heterosexuals?
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Binge watched 3 episodes last night ... as others have alluded to, very funny and very sad. I guess it highlights many of the prejudices prevalent at that time about both homosexuality and the spread of AIDs.
Answering the question above about why it was so rampant then in the gay community, watch it, but think the answer lies generally in promiscuity, and initially, lack of understanding, and knowledge.. or not wanting to know! Although watch the series, and you will see this wasn’t always the case!!! ... won’t spoil it.
Great series - loving it.
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I watched all 5 episodes last weekend, was so emotional! Absolutely brilliant writing and acting they deserve all the wins and all the trophies and hold them high to all the beautiful lives lost during the height of the epidemic.
We have come far since then with effective medicine that allows people with H.I.V today to live with the virus U=U Undetectable Untransmittable . |
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I agree with all the comments so far, great acting, writing and soundtrack.
One thing I didn't realise at the time was how vulnerable gay people were to being sacked. Such intolerance and it reminded me of what was shown in the equally good, thought-provoking Small Axe series a few weeks ago, about the experiences of the Caribbean community in London in the 70s. |
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One thing it has brought home to me is just how far society has come since those days, and served to remind me just how discriminative life was then. In those days I was completely heterosexual (probably just hadn’t tried the other side!) and as judgemental as the rest back then.
There are still some differences to be tackled (more so in the ‘T’ part of LGBT), but they acceptance is in significantly better than it was, with no need to live in an ‘underground’ parallel society.
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"Forgive my lack of knowledge, but can anyone explain why the AIDS virus initially ravaged the gay community the way it did.
So many straight people were also having unprotected sex in that time, how did it hit the gay community so bad compared to to heterosexuals?
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Many gay men "top and bottom", the anus is and, can be more prone to abrasions during anal sex. |
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"Forgive my lack of knowledge, but can anyone explain why the AIDS virus initially ravaged the gay community the way it did.
So many straight people were also having unprotected sex in that time, how did it hit the gay community so bad compared to to heterosexuals?
Also ... whilst not always the case (watch the series), many in the gay community had a blaze and promiscuous approach to sex, kicking back at the convention of monogamy so infected many others without realising the risk.
R xx
Many gay men "top and bottom", the anus is and, can be more prone to abrasions during anal sex. "
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"I agree with all the comments so far, great acting, writing and soundtrack.
One thing I didn't realise at the time was how vulnerable gay people were to being sacked. Such intolerance and it reminded me of what was shown in the equally good, thought-provoking Small Axe series a few weeks ago, about the experiences of the Caribbean community in London in the 70s."
This!!! The mortgage company asking all those questions and the school teacher! Shocking |
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"Forgive my lack of knowledge, but can anyone explain why the AIDS virus initially ravaged the gay community the way it did.
So many straight people were also having unprotected sex in that time, how did it hit the gay community so bad compared to to heterosexuals?
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Also I ‘think’ that condoms were only popularly used to protect against pregnancy in those days so gay men didn’t use them. |
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really good viewing and relevant to us
my hubbys uncle was big into the gay scene at that time and unfortunately both him and his partner died from aids
they were always the life and sole but it was horrible what they went through in the end
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"Forgive my lack of knowledge, but can anyone explain why the AIDS virus initially ravaged the gay community the way it did.
So many straight people were also having unprotected sex in that time, how did it hit the gay community so bad compared to to heterosexuals?
Also I ‘think’ that condoms were only popularly used to protect against pregnancy in those days so gay men didn’t use them. "
@qadesh ... just thought about this and you beat me to it!!
Sex education back then focussed on not getting pregnant, and ‘safe sex focussed on nothing more than Gonorrhoea and Syphillis. Homosexuality wasn’t even mentioned back then!!!
Men couldn’t get men pregnant - so where’s the problem!!
R xx
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I loved this programme it was brilliant ! Amazing acting and told a wonderful but terribly sad story. I think I sobbed from episode 3 ! People at work were asking me what was wrong as my eyes were still puffy from crying so much |
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I watched it and thought it was really powerful and a fairly true reflection of what happened at the time.
In my mid twenties I worked in a gay pub and would often talk to some of the older gay men who would tell me about their experiences when being gay wasn't something that you could openly be proud about and living through the aids epidemic.
I will always remember one guy who told me that his partner had died of Aids in the mid nineties and that he wasn't allowed to go to the funeral as the family had banned him, they had lived together for 8 years and in that time his partners family hadn't contacted him once.
I bawled my eyes out at the scene at the funeral as I thought of that poor man. |
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I watched it this weekend. I cried so much.
It made me even prouder of my son who is living his life true to himself.
It was harrowing to see so many people living in shame and dying alone.
The stigma and the suffering truly broke my heart.
I wish there were more Jills in this world. |
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It took me back to my days working in a Communicable Disease Unit in London. So many young men admitted with extreme breathing problems, awful open sores and all totally terrified. These were the first wave, only a few drug therapies available.
Later, came women mainly of African origin, pregnant. These poor women were encouraged to have terminations because of their reduced life expectancy and, risk to the unborn child (as it was thought then). |
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"anyone watched this brilliant program? so many parallels with the virus
and a fabulous lifestyle
any thoughts?
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Yup watched the series and lived the reality... really fab drama
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Lived or live a frend was diagnosed
HIV+ August 2018 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The best show I’ve ever watched , have now watched it twice , every character is so believable, you laugh and cry as you go through the journey of there life’s , as a gay man I can relate to so much of the program, the bit that hit me the hard , was when the family burned all of hes belongings, my family did the same when I decided to be me and not someone I wasn’t , was given a good kick in by my dad and thrown out then disowned , people were told I had died by my family rather than tell them I was gay , shocking but true , this show has to win awards |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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"I watched it this weekend. I cried so much.
It made me even prouder of my son who is living his life true to himself.
It was harrowing to see so many people living in shame and dying alone.
The stigma and the suffering truly broke my heart.
I wish there were more Jills in this world. "
Everyone needs a Jill, what a beautiful, warm hearted person |
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"The actor playing jills mum , is the real life Jill
Oh really?
I thought it was fiction and just based on attitudes at the time."
Many bits of it were all taken from people Russell T Davies knew or knew of.
Amazingly the parallels with covid are entirely incidental as it was filmed pre-Covid |
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"anyone watched this brilliant program? so many parallels with the virus
and a fabulous lifestyle
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Remember that dreadful time so well, was working in Earls court back then, such a sad and scary time.
S
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Watched episode 1 and then had to watch them all in one sitting.
Fantastic series uplifting and heart breaking.
So thankful we have come a long way in terms of attitudes to sexuality since those days.
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Watched episode 1 and then had to watch them all in one sitting.
Fantastic series uplifting and heart breaking.
So thankful we have come a long way in terms of attitudes to sexuality since those days.
KJ"
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Another fan, just seen episode 2, with the repulsive boss taking the guy to New York and his dismissal on their return. So sad.
There was a good show on BBC4 last night 'Crafticism...' with Jenny Éclair. She visited a centre with some of the Aids victims blankets, that were made to honour those who died. Well worth a watch . It's just an element of the show but it had good content overall. |
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"The actor playing jills mum , is the real life Jill
Oh really?
I thought it was fiction and just based on attitudes at the time."
There’s quite a bit of historical reference... the court case the lawyer mentioned when breaking the Welsh boy from hospital was a real life young Manchester lad who was treated appallingly.
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