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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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just wondered if snow makes covid disappear? i mean, walking the dog around the fields this morning and seems like the rules have gone out the window.
groups of 20 plus messing around in the snow, snow fights and usual snow entertainment
chatted to another dog walker, at least 4m distance and they informed me it was like it all over town
another spike in a few weeks!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Callous stupid behaviour like this will harm others. It's clear that the danger continues in snow and other weather. Distancing is the key tool to stop this "
Exactly right however some people just don’t care. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"just wondered if snow makes covid disappear? i mean, walking the dog around the fields this morning and seems like the rules have gone out the window.
groups of 20 plus messing around in the snow, snow fights and usual snow entertainment
chatted to another dog walker, at least 4m distance and they informed me it was like it all over town
another spike in a few weeks!! "
Yep, same around here too... Definitely not support bubbles and more than one family out playing together, no attempt at social distancing... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It was good to see families out enjoying the snow this morning, didn’t see any mixing and everyone keeping their distance. "
We are about 5 miles up the road from you and that didn't happen here.
A group of about 30 having a chat and messing about in the snow on the green and groups of 3 or 4 women with buggies none of them social distancing.
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"It was good to see families out enjoying the snow this morning, didn’t see any mixing and everyone keeping their distance.
We are about 5 miles up the road from you and that didn't happen here.
A group of about 30 having a chat and messing about in the snow on the green and groups of 3 or 4 women with buggies none of them social distancing.
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Honestly I wouldn't blame them. Our local park and fields have been busy with people out enjoying the snow. It's a lot harder to catch covid outdoors and there's nothing else to do. Most people we saw at least has scarves around their faces if not actual masks.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We had heavy snow here 10 days ago. The roads were too treacherous to drive on, so there were no 'non-essential' journeys. Lots of families (including mine) went out to play in the snow. I didn't see any family groups in close proximity that caused alarm, just lots of fun outdoors, running up and down hills with sledges, all good exercise.
There are some real killjoys here, allow families a little light relief when the last year has been so hard. |
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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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How you look at it depends on whats happening in your area, families and groups playing outside ... etc
Yet quite a few were critical of play parks in the thread last week
Then you add in other groups of people, if it's acceptable for today's playful events then why can't people watch football or rugby, even play golf together |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How you look at it depends on whats happening in your area, families and groups playing outside ... etc
Yet quite a few were critical of play parks in the thread last week
Then you add in other groups of people, if it's acceptable for today's playful events then why can't people watch football or rugby, even play golf together "
I can't justify the ban on golf, but watching football/rugby doesn't really constitute "exercise", does it? |
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"How you look at it depends on whats happening in your area, families and groups playing outside ... etc
Yet quite a few were critical of play parks in the thread last week
Then you add in other groups of people, if it's acceptable for today's playful events then why can't people watch football or rugby, even play golf together "
Goodness, it's almost like you're trying to argue that increased social interaction is ok during a lockdown trying to reduce social interaction!
Families playing together is fine, therefore so is all this other stuff!
Goodness, no one ever saw that coming! |
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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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"How you look at it depends on whats happening in your area, families and groups playing outside ... etc
Yet quite a few were critical of play parks in the thread last week
Then you add in other groups of people, if it's acceptable for today's playful events then why can't people watch football or rugby, even play golf together
I can't justify the ban on golf, but watching football/rugby doesn't really constitute "exercise", does it?"
But why not allow to watch events outside ... from what I seen today, most were exercising their jaws |
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I spent most of the day sat in hospital wearing the full PPE that the staff wear, watching my Grandad gasping for breath and wondering if he'd die or not today (the hospital certainly thought he would). I didn't notice the people outside. I hope they noticed the situation in the world. |
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"I spent most of the day sat in hospital wearing the full PPE that the staff wear, watching my Grandad gasping for breath and wondering if he'd die or not today (the hospital certainly thought he would). I didn't notice the people outside. I hope they noticed the situation in the world."
I got no closer to the snow than seeing it out my window, in the hope that me staying at home will prevent others facing that sort of suffering. |
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By *BWarksCouple
over a year ago
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"just wondered if snow makes covid disappear? i mean, walking the dog around the fields this morning and seems like the rules have gone out the window.
groups of 20 plus messing around in the snow, snow fights and usual snow entertainment
chatted to another dog walker, at least 4m distance and they informed me it was like it all over town
another spike in a few weeks!! "
You don’t need to be 4m apart , especially outside ..... it’s like mission creep all the time |
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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I spent most of the day sat in hospital wearing the full PPE that the staff wear, watching my Grandad gasping for breath and wondering if he'd die or not today (the hospital certainly thought he would). I didn't notice the people outside. I hope they noticed the situation in the world."
Must of been so upsetting, can't imagine what you're going though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"families building snowmen or kids who are going to school still together is not going to end the world.. the psyche has to have something "
You know only some children are at school at the moment right. |
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My little one has been waiting for it to snow since we got the Christmas books out back in early November! Staying in for almost a year shielding has been hard enough but staying in when its snowed would be impossible!
We kept to our own space and stepped back when people walked by , which they did as everyone wanted to be out enjoying something for a change. |
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"My little one has been waiting for it to snow since we got the Christmas books out back in early November! Staying in for almost a year shielding has been hard enough but staying in when its snowed would be impossible!
We kept to our own space and stepped back when people walked by , which they did as everyone wanted to be out enjoying something for a change. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"families building snowmen or kids who are going to school still together is not going to end the world.. the psyche has to have something
You know only some children are at school at the moment right."
yes my son is going to school.. People building snowmen is not a crime and in a front line worker fighting against covid... its hardly the beaches of Dorset |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"families building snowmen or kids who are going to school still together is not going to end the world.. the psyche has to have something
You know only some children are at school at the moment right.
yes my son is going to school.. People building snowmen is not a crime and in a front line worker fighting against covid... its hardly the beaches of Dorset "
Who said it was?
People from what I have seen on this thread have been complaining about large groups of people.
Being a critical worker does not make you exempt from following the rules and actually it is no different than a beach in Dorset.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"lol let me see a park as packed as the beaches were... and people who built snowmen probably didn't travel miles to do so either
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But this is the problem isn't it because it's easy to say well we felt justified to do this, Look at those people over there they are breaking the rules.
We all need to look at our own actions rather than pointing the finger at others.
I have no idea whether you broke the rules today but just saying well it isn't as bad as a beach in Dorset is not justification. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are some real killjoys here, allow families a little light relief when the last year has been so hard.
I agree i too agree."
Nobody on this thread said families cannot enjoy themselves what people have said is they have witnessed large groups of people there is a total difference.
Being concerned is not the same as being a killjoy! |
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"Callous stupid behaviour like this will harm others. It's clear that the danger continues in snow and other weather. Distancing is the key tool to stop this
Exactly right however some people just don’t care."
Alas I've seen this behaviour all along from the younger less vulnerable. Such a shame that it hasn't got through the threat they're posing to their parents/grandparents? However with the contradictory and confusing advice being spouted by the authorities I suppose it's inevitable that there is confusion and abuse?   |
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By *D40Couple
over a year ago
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I don't think the issue is playing in the snow.
It's getting too close to people who don't live in your household where the issue is. Without being a killjoy yes the kids have had a tough year, but then so haven't we all? I've worked all through covid in my admin role at the local main city hospital for my area. I've had one crappy 3 days at the seaside in Sept and cancelled every other holiday we planned.
At the end of the day you have to look at your own conscience. Yes you and your family might be healthy, but you don't know what everybody else is carrying......
Stay safe, live longer. It's got to end soon then we can all go to the parks/beaches & pubs together
Mrs WD
ps, on a recent trip to the park with my grandaughter i was appalled at the amount of grown ups stood together chatting while the kids played. Do they not know there is a killer on the loose? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've got a friend whose got 7kids...thats a family group of at least looking like ten.. then maybe friends who they go to school with... i just think people judge too easily.. if people are being wankers. come down on em like a ton of bricks |
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"I've got a friend whose got 7kids...thats a family group of at least looking like ten.. then maybe friends who they go to school with... i just think people judge too easily.. if people are being wankers. come down on em like a ton of bricks "
How is that judging because you're not meant to be mixing with just because you go to school with them. I just don't understand your logic because you are criticising people that went to the beach to have fun when it was hot but not a people who are meeting up together because it's cold and snowing.
Yes there are individual circumstances that are understandable but it is unfair to criticise people that have Legitimate concerns. |
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"We had heavy snow here 10 days ago. The roads were too treacherous to drive on, so there were no 'non-essential' journeys. Lots of families (including mine) went out to play in the snow. I didn't see any family groups in close proximity that caused alarm, just lots of fun outdoors, running up and down hills with sledges, all good exercise.
There are some real killjoys here, allow families a little light relief when the last year has been so hard. "
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"Callous stupid behaviour like this will harm others. It's clear that the danger continues in snow and other weather. Distancing is the key tool to stop this
Exactly right however some people just don’t care.
Alas I've seen this behaviour all along from the younger less vulnerable. Such a shame that it hasn't got through the threat they're posing to their parents/grandparents? However with the contradictory and confusing advice being spouted by the authorities I suppose it's inevitable that there is confusion and abuse? "
You should see the message that my 18yo son sent to his 61yo Grandmother, whose completely irresponsible behaviour has put my son's Great Grandad/my Grandad (89) in hospital with Covid. In my circle, it's the middle aged to early 70s members who are the ones playing Russian Roulette, not the young ones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For me what has been highlighted and repeatedly confirmed is the selfish callous and stupid behaviour by which us Brits as a society have been caricatured has come to more true than I'd have been willing to admit. I'm ashamed at times to call my self British more now than ever before. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
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Do you want to tell him what snowmen do in summer?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
d"
Or be consistent and if you are going to publically condemn one form of rule breaking then you should be condemning all of them.
Like I said it's easy to say well I'm not as bad as then.
The amount of hypocrisy on this thread is unbelievable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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there is no hypocrisy just the dog walkers are somehow untouchable and beyond any reproach.. ive seen the them gather in non bubble groups in the park for a natter..but no one is having a go at them just let society cope how it can..
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
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Do you want to tell him what snowmen do in summer?! "
i don't like militant unforgiving views on either side.. the way is always somewhere in the middle
and snowmen melt.. but at least it gave kids a bit of fun from a life you could never have imagined as a kid
if the weather had been better i bet the R rate would be a ton worse
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
d
Do you want to tell him what snowmen do in summer?!
i don't like militant unforgiving views on either side.. the way is always somewhere in the middle
and snowmen melt.. but at least it gave kids a bit of fun from a life you could never have imagined as a kid
if the weather had been better i bet the R rate would be a ton worse
d"
My Olaf comment was meant in jest.... Anyway. You have no idea what people's childhoods were like, to be fair. Using my own as a basis, my 3yo has had a far superior experience over the past year compared to me at the same age. For my son (18), I'd say his experience has been both richer and poorer and that my own life at 18 was so different, with totally different priorities, that I'm not sure I could compare.
If you've read any of my thread about my Grandad and his health and you read about my mother, you might find out why I'd choose Coronaworld over 1988 as my year of choice to be 3.
But that's me. None of us can make a sweeping conclusion that all children are having a poorer experience right now. Some are, some aren't. Same as adults. Mr KC is perfectly happy, I'm much less so, with the "stay at home" range of activities, for example. |
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
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Or be consistent and if you are going to publically condemn one form of rule breaking then you should be condemning all of them.
Like I said it's easy to say well I'm not as bad as then.
The amount of hypocrisy on this thread is unbelievable."
This is what I take issue with: I don't see that building a snowman and playing in the snow with your family IS breaking the rules. I think it's entirely within the overnment's rules (staying lical, taking outdoor exercise, not mixing with other family groups) and that's why I didn't condemn it. |
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"We had heavy snow here 10 days ago. The roads were too treacherous to drive on, so there were no 'non-essential' journeys. Lots of families (including mine) went out to play in the snow. I didn't see any family groups in close proximity that caused alarm, just lots of fun outdoors, running up and down hills with sledges, all good exercise.
There are some real killjoys here, allow families a little light relief when the last year has been so hard. "
Sledging in Roundhay park Leeds was just what the doctor ordered. |
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
d
Or be consistent and if you are going to publically condemn one form of rule breaking then you should be condemning all of them.
Like I said it's easy to say well I'm not as bad as then.
The amount of hypocrisy on this thread is unbelievable.
This is what I take issue with: I don't see that building a snowman and playing in the snow with your family IS breaking the rules. I think it's entirely within the overnment's rules (staying lical, taking outdoor exercise, not mixing with other family groups) and that's why I didn't condemn it. "
Yet again people are picking in choosing what they read in a thread.
Nobody has condemned anybody for building a sowman with their family it is the ones that have been gathering in big groups, I have seen them out of my own window.
And others have said the same. |
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
d
Or be consistent and if you are going to publically condemn one form of rule breaking then you should be condemning all of them.
Like I said it's easy to say well I'm not as bad as then.
The amount of hypocrisy on this thread is unbelievable.
This is what I take issue with: I don't see that building a snowman and playing in the snow with your family IS breaking the rules. I think it's entirely within the overnment's rules (staying lical, taking outdoor exercise, not mixing with other family groups) and that's why I didn't condemn it.
Yet again people are picking in choosing what they read in a thread.
Nobody has condemned anybody for building a sowman with their family it is the ones that have been gathering in big groups, I have seen them out of my own window.
And others have said the same."
It wasn't you, Lorna, but yes they have. |
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
d
Or be consistent and if you are going to publically condemn one form of rule breaking then you should be condemning all of them.
Like I said it's easy to say well I'm not as bad as then.
The amount of hypocrisy on this thread is unbelievable.
This is what I take issue with: I don't see that building a snowman and playing in the snow with your family IS breaking the rules. I think it's entirely within the overnment's rules (staying lical, taking outdoor exercise, not mixing with other family groups) and that's why I didn't condemn it.
Yet again people are picking in choosing what they read in a thread.
Nobody has condemned anybody for building a sowman with their family it is the ones that have been gathering in big groups, I have seen them out of my own window.
And others have said the same.
It wasn't you, Lorna, but yes they have. "
Iv looked through and can't see one.
I just think people like to attack people and call them killjoys if they don't have the same opinion.
Nobody has a problem with a family enjoying the snow, It's the fact there are so many in a lot of the pictures I have seen online or with my own eyes out of my window I can tell you this is not just families.
The opening post clearly says groups of 20 yet people have decided that people are attacking individual families and that hasn't happened and this thread. |
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"this is hardly the Hitchin thread tho is it... there are people out there denying anything is going on and we will have a rebellion of odious idiots like we had in America decrying their loss of liberty like the shit i get at work of the public for just asking them to wear a mask... choose your battles.. and just let a little bit of Olaf in
d
Or be consistent and if you are going to publically condemn one form of rule breaking then you should be condemning all of them.
Like I said it's easy to say well I'm not as bad as then.
The amount of hypocrisy on this thread is unbelievable.
This is what I take issue with: I don't see that building a snowman and playing in the snow with your family IS breaking the rules. I think it's entirely within the overnment's rules (staying lical, taking outdoor exercise, not mixing with other family groups) and that's why I didn't condemn it.
Yet again people are picking in choosing what they read in a thread.
Nobody has condemned anybody for building a sowman with their family it is the ones that have been gathering in big groups, I have seen them out of my own window.
And others have said the same.
It wasn't you, Lorna, but yes they have. "
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over a year ago
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if people feel pitchforks are being raised on either side people will raise theirs in retaliation.. its how wars.. particularly civil wars.
snowballs fights are more fun tho.
remember people have been told fresh air is good, people maybe scared being inside in unventilated...
take care and stay safe... wear a mask.. enjoy the snow |
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"if people feel pitchforks are being raised on either side people will raise theirs in retaliation.. its how wars.. particularly civil wars.
snowballs fights are more fun tho.
remember people have been told fresh air is good, people maybe scared being inside in unventilated...
take care and stay safe... wear a mask.. enjoy the snow "
You have picked a fight when there wasn't one to pick.
One person made a vague comment about it not being exercise to build Snowman.
Everybody else has agreed with you but just said that it isn't just families and there have been big groups mixing.
You were the only person that suggested playing in the snow was OK but somehow going to a beach wasn't.
Like I said picking a fight when there wasn't one.
I will say it one more time nobody has said families can't go out when enjoy themselves, People have said they have a problem with big groups gathering.
Read the thread again maybe. |
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By *i1971Man
over a year ago
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"Supermarkets are just as bad, if not worse OP. If your that worried, perhaps avoid that area. X"
I'm not finding supermarkets at all bad. I time my visits for when they are generally quieter. Can get the goods in much shorter time than pre pandemic. If I go and there's a queue or its looking busy, I'll go back another time.
No snow right here ATM but a few houses around here haven't stopped persistent visits (you can tell by how much of the road their vehicles take up). Feral kids roaming from house to house in their little gangs as well. With any luck the colder damper weather might keep them indoors for a bit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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im sure it would be busier if the sun was out. i have to force my kids out the door most of the time.. lol.. just imagine how bad it would be without their devices
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