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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Just read that all councils have been given extended lockdown powers until July 17th "
It was a sneaky way to extend the COVID emergency powers act... but they will now extend it by law via parliament!
Hancock did say this morning restrictions were going to be in place for a long long long time... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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im hopeful (or perhaps delusional) that we will at least see some loosening of restrictions in the spring/ summer time even if its limited to use of cafes and restaurants outdoor space with just 2 households at a time
im hanging on to this to get me through but expect there to be some form of continued restrictions for the rest of the year and understand legislation needs to be in place for that to happen |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Bastards! 
Why?"
So its ok to just keep moving the goal posts? Likely im wrong but wasn't March/April the aim to start lifting restrictions? Now were extending it to July? It was childish response on my part. We need to do what right to keep this thing under control ay? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As i said it was a childish response on my part. Youre very correct. Ppl not sticking to the rules is prolonging things. |
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As the daily figures come down and there's no easing of restrictions we will start to see civil unrest. Folk aren't going to hide away for yet another summer. Remember we were promised it was just 1 summer and Xmas we should sacrifice? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As the daily figures come down and there's no easing of restrictions we will start to see civil unrest. Folk aren't going to hide away for yet another summer. Remember we were promised it was just 1 summer and Xmas we should sacrifice?"
the numbers dont need to just trend down , we need them to fall off the face of a cliff or all we do by opening up too much too soon is just trend them right back up the way
the people with your cvil unrest attitude don’t seem to see they are cutting their nose off to spite their face, their actions perpetuate the very situation they want to protest again by keeping numbers up ... its classic chicken and egg |
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"As the daily figures come down and there's no easing of restrictions we will start to see civil unrest. Folk aren't going to hide away for yet another summer. Remember we were promised it was just 1 summer and Xmas we should sacrifice?
the numbers dont need to just trend down , we need them to fall off the face of a cliff or all we do by opening up too much too soon is just trend them right back up the way
the people with your cvil unrest attitude don’t seem to see they are cutting their nose off to spite their face, their actions perpetuate the very situation they want to protest again by keeping numbers up ... its classic chicken and egg "
We are a year in to this and it's already looking like being another year. Expecting folk to put their lives on hold for 2 years is unrealistic regardless of the reason |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think this is all part of the plan. Keep us all in lockdown until the majority of the population have been vaccinated. Just my opinion x"
Your absolutely correct, if you listen to Dr Fauci or the WHO, Herd Immunity will be achieved by vaccination, protecting people from the virus and not exposing them to it until 70% are Vaccinated. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think this is all part of the plan. Keep us all in lockdown until the majority of the population have been vaccinated. Just my opinion x
Your absolutely correct, if you listen to Dr Fauci or the WHO, Herd Immunity will be achieved by vaccination, protecting people from the virus and not exposing them to it until 70% are Vaccinated."
I agree with that x |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"I think this is all part of the plan. Keep us all in lockdown until the majority of the population have been vaccinated. Just my opinion x
Your absolutely correct, if you listen to Dr Fauci or the WHO, Herd Immunity will be achieved by vaccination, protecting people from the virus and not exposing them to it until 70% are Vaccinated."
Just hope that no mutations happen in the meantime. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July "
What I find fascinating about our Government is they seem incapable of telling truths?
I draw my conclusions by listening to Fauci or the WHO. I may be off and I'm sure someone will correct me if so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As the daily figures come down and there's no easing of restrictions we will start to see civil unrest. Folk aren't going to hide away for yet another summer. Remember we were promised it was just 1 summer and Xmas we should sacrifice?
the numbers dont need to just trend down , we need them to fall off the face of a cliff or all we do by opening up too much too soon is just trend them right back up the way
the people with your cvil unrest attitude don’t seem to see they are cutting their nose off to spite their face, their actions perpetuate the very situation they want to protest again by keeping numbers up ... its classic chicken and egg
We are a year in to this and it's already looking like being another year. Expecting folk to put their lives on hold for 2 years is unrealistic regardless of the reason"
we are a year into this but we are not in the same position we were a year ago... we now have multiple vaccine options that have started to be administered and we have more treatments options and knowledge about the virus ... it might not feel like it currently but we are on the road out of this
but good to know that with an average life expectancy of 81 in the UK , about 2.5% of your life is an unacceptable amount to put on partial hold (we haven’t even been in full or permanent lockdown for any of those 2 years btw) to prevent more death from a virus that has already killed over 2million people worldwide
if you dont see that as a reasonable level of sacrifice it says alot about you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To me it makes sense that there are long term powers in place.
A lot of the criticism is that there hasn't been a long term plan or we haven't acted quickly enough. |
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Only just spotted this thread. Oh joy! Roll on vaccination and hopefully we can all get on with life sooner than next year? This is really dragging for us vulnerable types now. It's getting so I barely cross my threshold!   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
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I am advocating for the rules to be relaxed when it is appropriate and for people not to be needlessly dying in hospital because I can't stick to some rules for a short period of time in comparison to the rest of my life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think this is all part of the plan. Keep us all in lockdown until the majority of the population have been vaccinated. Just my opinion x"
And is that a bad plan? Or a good plan? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
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just for the record i absolutely hate lockdown ... i am as miserable as i have ever been in my life ... as a single adult female the freedom to go where i wanted when i wanted and with whom i wanted was what made my life enjoyable ... i know for other people their families bring meaning to their life ... thats never going to be me so everything that defines me has been stripped away
but you know the alternative is even more people actually dying so its kind of a no brainer |
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
I am advocating for the rules to be relaxed when it is appropriate and for people not to be needlessly dying in hospital because I can't stick to some rules for a short period of time in comparison to the rest of my life."
It's not a short period though is it. It's looking increasingly like being 2 years at least and that's before weve even reached the year mark.
Have you considered the absolute devastation that is going to cause to folks lives? Yes people are dying but 2 years of this will leave many more with nothing to live for. Jobs, homes, relationships, all gone if this goes on another year. It isn't just not getting to a pub or out for a meal or whatever. It's about the person who's ability to put food on their table depending on that job serving us our pint or meal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
I am advocating for the rules to be relaxed when it is appropriate and for people not to be needlessly dying in hospital because I can't stick to some rules for a short period of time in comparison to the rest of my life.
It's not a short period though is it. It's looking increasingly like being 2 years at least and that's before weve even reached the year mark.
Have you considered the absolute devastation that is going to cause to folks lives? Yes people are dying but 2 years of this will leave many more with nothing to live for. Jobs, homes, relationships, all gone if this goes on another year. It isn't just not getting to a pub or out for a meal or whatever. It's about the person who's ability to put food on their table depending on that job serving us our pint or meal."
2 years in the average person's lifespan is short term.
All so it is about face coverings and restrictions on numbers at big events that is being proposed for longer term so it's hardly lockdown. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"I think this is all part of the plan. Keep us all in lockdown until the majority of the population have been vaccinated. Just my opinion x
Your absolutely correct, if you listen to Dr Fauci or the WHO, Herd Immunity will be achieved by vaccination, protecting people from the virus and not exposing them to it until 70% are Vaccinated."
That seems to be a good plan, correct decision in my view  |
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
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None of us want this situation! If people actually took it really seriously for the last few weeks since Christmas we could have brought case numbers right down. But no, too many people being too lax giving too many opportunities for virus transmission and so we are stuck in Groundhog Day. People need to grow up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere? "
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
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No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021 |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
What I find fascinating about our Government is they seem incapable of telling truths?
I draw my conclusions by listening to Fauci or the WHO. I may be off and I'm sure someone will correct me if so."
You are correct, the government is incapable of telling the truth. Continued restrictions until we come out the other side _is_ the only way that we can get out of it, but we don't have anyone at the top who has the balls to just bluntly tell the story straight.
There is a continued impression that johnson et al do not have, and never have had, a decisive plan of action that recognises the difficulties the world is facing. Instead of steering the ship, they just waft in the wind. Instructions are given to close schools only after schools have forced the matter by already closing themselves. People are told to wear masks, only when the majority of people decided on their own to start wearing masks. You can have christmas, then it might be a bit iffy having christmas, but the message is given that you can have family over for christmas and you buy all the food, then on christmas eve nope you can't have family for christmas so you can throw away your 10 kilo turkey.
I just want leadership that can admit that they fucked up at the start, look at what they did wrong, and take whatever strong action is needed now. I want bojo to stop telling half the story, hoping not to upset people too much, so that they won't sack him. I want him to lay down exactly how much shit we are in, tell us what the worst is, treat the citizens like adults. |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere? "
If we don't get herd immunity then restrictions will probably be in place indefinitely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021 "
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
If we don't get herd immunity then restrictions will probably be in place indefinitely."
We are aiming for 70% but the who have said a population needs to have at least 67% at I think we will definitely get that. |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it."
We need to remember that fully vaccinated is two doses plus two weeks. The government saying how many they've vaccinated... No.
It only counts once we're fully vaccinated. |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
If we don't get herd immunity then restrictions will probably be in place indefinitely.
We are aiming for 70% but the who have said a population needs to have at least 67% at I think we will definitely get that."
I sure hope so. I'm sick of this shit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it.
We need to remember that fully vaccinated is two doses plus two weeks. The government saying how many they've vaccinated... No.
It only counts once we're fully vaccinated."
That's why use the word dose not people because many have actually had their 2nd dose. |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it.
We need to remember that fully vaccinated is two doses plus two weeks. The government saying how many they've vaccinated... No.
It only counts once we're fully vaccinated.
That's why use the word dose not people because many have actually had their 2nd dose."
Agreed x |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
If we don't get herd immunity then restrictions will probably be in place indefinitely."
From a conversation with someone organising local injections, outside of care homes it's less than 40% agreeing to have it. Obviously its only a small regional figure and there's a lot of noise being made to encourage people to have it, it does worry me though |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it.
We need to remember that fully vaccinated is two doses plus two weeks. The government saying how many they've vaccinated... No.
It only counts once we're fully vaccinated.
That's why use the word dose not people because many have actually had their 2nd dose."
The figures are available to show how many first dose / second dose have been given. The total doses is a combination of those |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
If we don't get herd immunity then restrictions will probably be in place indefinitely.
From a conversation with someone organising local injections, outside of care homes it's less than 40% agreeing to have it. Obviously its only a small regional figure and there's a lot of noise being made to encourage people to have it, it does worry me though "
One London borough similar issue over 50% rejected it when offered so far |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it.
We need to remember that fully vaccinated is two doses plus two weeks. The government saying how many they've vaccinated... No.
It only counts once we're fully vaccinated.
That's why use the word dose not people because many have actually had their 2nd dose.
The figures are available to show how many first dose / second dose have been given. The total doses is a combination of those "
Thats what I said. |
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it.
We need to remember that fully vaccinated is two doses plus two weeks. The government saying how many they've vaccinated... No.
It only counts once we're fully vaccinated.
That's why use the word dose not people because many have actually had their 2nd dose.
The figures are available to show how many first dose / second dose have been given. The total doses is a combination of those
Thats what I said. "
I know I was saying the separated figures are there for people to view, maybe 6.5mil does but only approximately 450,000 vaccinated (ie had two doses) |
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
just for the record i absolutely hate lockdown ... i am as miserable as i have ever been in my life ... as a single adult female the freedom to go where i wanted when i wanted and with whom i wanted was what made my life enjoyable ... i know for other people their families bring meaning to their life ... thats never going to be me so everything that defines me has been stripped away
but you know the alternative is even more people actually dying so its kind of a no brainer"
Your comment is absolute nonsense. More people’s lives will be devastated and more lives lost long-term from lockdowns continuing than ever will from Covid.
The cure is worse than the disease. |
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
just for the record i absolutely hate lockdown ... i am as miserable as i have ever been in my life ... as a single adult female the freedom to go where i wanted when i wanted and with whom i wanted was what made my life enjoyable ... i know for other people their families bring meaning to their life ... thats never going to be me so everything that defines me has been stripped away
but you know the alternative is even more people actually dying so its kind of a no brainer
Your comment is absolute nonsense. More people’s lives will be devastated and more lives lost long-term from lockdowns continuing than ever will from Covid.
The cure is worse than the disease. "
Cute story. Adorable |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it."
"...If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it...."
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Agreed I think we can do it. But.... like you say that is "IF" the supply is there.
And it is not just the supply we need to think about, but also the distribution of it, the administration of it, plus the willingness of people to take it, plus the effectiveness of the vaccine against new strains etc etc.
So due to these caveats, we are not certain that the precise time targets will be met.
That's the reason why I think the restrictions have been extended - to give more headroom to account for any delays experienced in the process. I'm optimistic though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it.
"...If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it...."
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Agreed I think we can do it. But.... like you say that is "IF" the supply is there.
And it is not just the supply we need to think about, but also the distribution of it, the administration of it, plus the willingness of people to take it, plus the effectiveness of the vaccine against new strains etc etc.
So due to these caveats, we are not certain that the precise time targets will be met.
That's the reason why I think the restrictions have been extended - to give more headroom to account for any delays experienced in the process. I'm optimistic though."
Agreed plus the government were criticised for not going hard enough or opening up too early so maybe lessons have been learned.
I'd rather have a long lockdown and only open things up when we truly are out of the woods rather than constant in and out and change of rules. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"might be able to get 70 per cent done by July
I didn't think vaccine take up, after offered, was anywhere near 70%, has the figure been officially released anywhere?
Belguim expect to return to 'normal life' by September ... plans to immunize 9M people against COVID-19 by end of summer .
That's 70% of their population.
I really do not foresee 70% of the UK population vaccinated by that date.?
No way, 70%of the population is nigh on 50 million plus you need 2 doses,. That's nearly 100 million doses
No chance by July 2021
I don't know because we have done 6 million doses in 7 weeks with not a lot of supply.
If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it.
"...If the supply is there I think we definitely can do it...."
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Agreed I think we can do it. But.... like you say that is "IF" the supply is there.
And it is not just the supply we need to think about, but also the distribution of it, the administration of it, plus the willingness of people to take it, plus the effectiveness of the vaccine against new strains etc etc.
So due to these caveats, we are not certain that the precise time targets will be met.
That's the reason why I think the restrictions have been extended - to give more headroom to account for any delays experienced in the process. I'm optimistic though.
Agreed plus the government were criticised for not going hard enough or opening up too early so maybe lessons have been learned.
I'd rather have a long lockdown and only open things up when we truly are out of the woods rather than constant in and out and change of rules."
Agreed and we need to be optimistic we’re on the right road but it goes without saying it’ll be a slow road out baby steps.
Too many if’s and but’s.
It’s impossible to predict a date as it won’t happen that way. |
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I draw inspiration knowing that others throughout history have endured much longer periods of national crisis under just as difficult and sometimes more difficult situations.
It motivates me to endure and emulate their stoicism. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
I am advocating for the rules to be relaxed when it is appropriate and for people not to be needlessly dying in hospital because I can't stick to some rules for a short period of time in comparison to the rest of my life.
It's not a short period though is it. It's looking increasingly like being 2 years at least and that's before weve even reached the year mark.
Have you considered the absolute devastation that is going to cause to folks lives? Yes people are dying but 2 years of this will leave many more with nothing to live for. Jobs, homes, relationships, all gone if this goes on another year. It isn't just not getting to a pub or out for a meal or whatever. It's about the person who's ability to put food on their table depending on that job serving us our pint or meal.
2 years in the average person's lifespan is short term.
All so it is about face coverings and restrictions on numbers at big events that is being proposed for longer term so it's hardly lockdown. "
2yrs to younger is ok. 2yrs to older is a hell of a lot more of their life gone. Also the longer this goes on will mean people suffering severe mental health problem at the least or at the worst a large increase in Suicides. |
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
just for the record i absolutely hate lockdown ... i am as miserable as i have ever been in my life ... as a single adult female the freedom to go where i wanted when i wanted and with whom i wanted was what made my life enjoyable ... i know for other people their families bring meaning to their life ... thats never going to be me so everything that defines me has been stripped away
but you know the alternative is even more people actually dying so its kind of a no brainer
Your comment is absolute nonsense. More people’s lives will be devastated and more lives lost long-term from lockdowns continuing than ever will from Covid.
The cure is worse than the disease. "
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"You lot need serious help!
Advocating for more of the same for the rest of the year after a year of this already.
Unbelievable.
I am advocating for the rules to be relaxed when it is appropriate and for people not to be needlessly dying in hospital because I can't stick to some rules for a short period of time in comparison to the rest of my life.
It's not a short period though is it. It's looking increasingly like being 2 years at least and that's before weve even reached the year mark.
Have you considered the absolute devastation that is going to cause to folks lives? Yes people are dying but 2 years of this will leave many more with nothing to live for. Jobs, homes, relationships, all gone if this goes on another year. It isn't just not getting to a pub or out for a meal or whatever. It's about the person who's ability to put food on their table depending on that job serving us our pint or meal.
2 years in the average person's lifespan is short term.
All so it is about face coverings and restrictions on numbers at big events that is being proposed for longer term so it's hardly lockdown.
2yrs to younger is ok. 2yrs to older is a hell of a lot more of their life gone. Also the longer this goes on will mean people suffering severe mental health problem at the least or at the worst a large increase in Suicides. "
So let's just sacrifice be elderly and vulnerable and actually anybody who is in unlucky enough to get seriously ill with covid.
Yes of course there are knock on effects of having locked down but if we opened up and people could live their life how they choose there would be many many more suffering with mental health issues. Including our already traumatised medical staff.
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"I draw inspiration knowing that others throughout history have endured much longer periods of national crisis under just as difficult and sometimes more difficult situations.
It motivates me to endure and emulate their stoicism."
Very true.
People can't see their friends and family and yes that is awful and yes people are losing their jobs but the very generations that are most risk are exactly the ones that we have to thank for the lives we live now. |
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yes but they had blitz spirit and were crammed together in bomb shelters... even the kids if they were sent away go to sse cows for the first time... its totally different
i remember one ex serviceman on the radio in the early days of March crying on a phone in cos he fought for freedom and he felt he couldn't walk out of his front door
its so much more complicated
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I personally cannot take much more
I have been sticking to the rules
I live on my own and even before last March l suffered with mental health
I feel like a prisoner who has done nothing wrong
And yes its crossed my mind is it worth carrying on or take my own life |
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"I personally cannot take much more
I have been sticking to the rules
I live on my own and even before last March l suffered with mental health
I feel like a prisoner who has done nothing wrong
And yes its crossed my mind is it worth carrying on or take my own life "
It is and I know it feels like this has gone on a long time but it has only been a year.
We are close because of the vaccine and it will not ways be like this.
Do what you can do for example can you form a support bubble, Get out for exercise daily, Which out for support online.
It will be worth it in the long run hanging on in there.
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"I personally cannot take much more
I have been sticking to the rules
I live on my own and even before last March l suffered with mental health
I feel like a prisoner who has done nothing wrong
And yes its crossed my mind is it worth carrying on or take my own life
It is and I know it feels like this has gone on a long time but it has only been a year.
We are close because of the vaccine and it will not ways be like this.
Do what you can do for example can you form a support bubble, Get out for exercise daily, Which out for support online.
It will be worth it in the long run hanging on in there.
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Our concern is the impact on peoples mental health. Suicide rates are high, millions are suffering hardship, emotionally and financially. Then there's the cancer sufferers who aren't getting the treatment they need because of Covid and will sadly die. Cancer kills 165k people every year. Covid is nowhere near that and never will be.
There is no easy answer to any of this. |
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Take each day as it comes. It's clear that we need local and national powers to manage things are going to be essential for many months, just as they've been for a year. Things will probably change but it's still very early in the vaccination programme to know the specifics. Get in dialogue with uour representatives if you are unhappy with the plans and action being taken.
Protect everyone's health, including your own, day by day, is the best thing we each can do now. |
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"As the daily figures come down and there's no easing of restrictions we will start to see civil unrest. Folk aren't going to hide away for yet another summer. Remember we were promised it was just 1 summer and Xmas we should sacrifice?"
The only thing more dangerous than civil disobedience is civil obedience.
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Re: suicide rates pre Covid and during. We should take care not to conflate correlation and causation. Suicide rates have been increasing for a number of years prior to the pandemic, with a substantial rise between 2018 and 2019. The reason given was a change in the burden of proof required to certify a death as suicide rather than another reason. Suicide rates have grown year on year for a very long time and so it's difficult to assess the specific impact of the pandemic on rates.
Although this article was written in Sept 2020, it refers mainly to pre pandemic data https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/01/male-suicide-rate-england-wales-covid-19 |
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It's the hospital staff I feel for.
While people are sitting in their homes, safe as houses, they are battling a disease for hours on end. Some of them are catching it and dying.
I'm glad I only have to stay on my sofa and keep myself active and healthy.
I do feel for people living in flats though, as they won't have gardens to sit in when the weather is warmer.
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"It's the hospital staff I feel for.
While people are sitting in their homes, safe as houses, they are battling a disease for hours on end. Some of them are catching it and dying.
I'm glad I only have to stay on my sofa and keep myself active and healthy.
I do feel for people living in flats though, as they won't have gardens to sit in when the weather is warmer.
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People can go out for a walk each day or is that banned?
No one is locked up, so though one may be restricted in staying home,. Getting fresh air and clearing the cobwebs is allowed when I last read the restrictions.
People should look at the French restrictions and the fines imposed if they want to see a nearby comparison. |
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"It's the hospital staff I feel for.
While people are sitting in their homes, safe as houses, they are battling a disease for hours on end. Some of them are catching it and dying.
I'm glad I only have to stay on my sofa and keep myself active and healthy.
I do feel for people living in flats though, as they won't have gardens to sit in when the weather is warmer.
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