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"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? " Well we are heading for 2.5 trillion of debt as a nation so what's few more billion going to bother the U.K. | |||
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"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? Well we are heading for 2.5 trillion of debt as a nation so what's few more billion going to bother the U.K. " Wasn't it about 1.7 before the pandemic? | |||
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"The levels of rejections for the support payments the government said are available have in some cases been as high as 77%.. Simple fact is that some people literally feel they have to choose between staying at home and receiving no money to pay rent, for food etc or go to work .. Other countries have been much more sensible in ensuring this is not a choice some in society have had to make for the benefit of all.. Still at least we've spunked countless billions on a crap track and trace and PPE not fit for purpose.." Are support payments different to the 500 pound a week? I know there is a different one for people that are self employed. | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. " Welcome to the world of the self employed. For us it has always been that way. | |||
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"The levels of rejections for the support payments the government said are available have in some cases been as high as 77%.. Simple fact is that some people literally feel they have to choose between staying at home and receiving no money to pay rent, for food etc or go to work .. Other countries have been much more sensible in ensuring this is not a choice some in society have had to make for the benefit of all.. Still at least we've spunked countless billions on a crap track and trace and PPE not fit for purpose.. Are support payments different to the 500 pound a week? I know there is a different one for people that are self employed." I think that was the figure mentioned but not 100%, newsnight last week had two or three pieces on this issue and local public health know it's an issue but government just come out with bland yada yada statements.. | |||
"Why wouldn't they be put on furlough like everyone else if they can't work? " I don't think furlough applies to people who have to self isolate either because they have tested positive or been in close contact with someone who has. | |||
"Why wouldn't they be put on furlough like everyone else if they can't work? I don't think furlough applies to people who have to self isolate either because they have tested positive or been in close contact with someone who has. " I didn't realise that. It seems strange though. | |||
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"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? " Also why should the people who have totally ignored the lockdown rules, catch it, then expect us, the rest of us,to pick up the tab. It's only a a small percent but they are super spreaders screwing it up for the people complying. Not popular I know but the amount who are ignoring the rules is quite an eye opener. Even some of the people suffering and interviewed have owned up to being lockdown breakers, now saying they wish they haven't. I feel so sorry for the people who have had life saving ops cancelled. Even now the medical teams are being put under pressure worried about claims being brought against them if someone dies, if they don't have resources or unable to treat them. No doubt the claim companies will be out in force at that point, bleeding the money,, if there's any left,, out of the NH S which by the way is our money. | |||
"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? Well we are heading for 2.5 trillion of debt as a nation so what's few more billion going to bother the U.K. Wasn't it about 1.7 before the pandemic?" It was about 2 Trillion now heading for 2.5 Trillion,UK is one of only 4 countries where our debt is more than a year GDP , still what’s 2.5 Trillion debt amongst friends LOL | |||
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"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? " Public finances, the same as track and trace, which has cost us £22 billion! If we are 100% committed to stop this, we should follow what is going to work. Other countries at the start of last year realised that it's in the public good to have people compensated to stop people being too desperate to isolate. | |||
"Why wouldn't they be put on furlough like everyone else if they can't work? " If I get covid my company will put me on statutory sick pay and not furlough and SSP won’t pay my mortgage  | |||
"Why wouldn't they be put on furlough like everyone else if they can't work? If I get covid my company will put me on statutory sick pay and not furlough and SSP won’t pay my mortgage "£92 pounds a week wont go far I genuinely think the government simply dont know what its like to be Joe Public. Theyve been crapping on about the extra £20 pounds universal credit, like its gonna solve everyones problems | |||
"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? Also why should the people who have totally ignored the lockdown rules, catch it, then expect us, the rest of us,to pick up the tab. It's only a a small percent but they are super spreaders screwing it up for the people complying. Not popular I know but the amount who are ignoring the rules is quite an eye opener. Even some of the people suffering and interviewed have owned up to being lockdown breakers, now saying they wish they haven't. I feel so sorry for the people who have had life saving ops cancelled. Even now the medical teams are being put under pressure worried about claims being brought against them if someone dies, if they don't have resources or unable to treat them. No doubt the claim companies will be out in force at that point, bleeding the money,, if there's any left,, out of the NH S which by the way is our money." We have to end the blame culture and just focus on what is in the best interests of society. People getting infected can easily get this via a working life that involves being around others. Being comfortably off, in a salaried job, is very different to being on the breadline. A job that picks and chooses if and when you get to work, sees you as expendable, pays nothing for when it doesn't want you to work, but your life involves feeding your family, keeping a roof over your head, is a world apart from the former. It's not our job to think of everything about society that will make it tougher to conquer the virus, that's for government. It's still lacking in this department. I'd prefer full pay, say average of 2 months, to stop people living motivated by essential needs. We've paid consultants in track and trace £6000 per day. A few hundred pounds a week will be peanuts in comparison | |||
"I think the word we should use is support not compensation, your suggesting someone is at fault, when in fact all your doing is asking for some help in a time of hardship. I know you can apply for a support payment but how easy this is I don’t know, possibly you may of got some info from the test & trace support scheme via text, you will need your ID number from I presume your test, or from when they contacted you to isolate. I hope this helps. xx" You're right, it is support, for the many who face extremely disadvantaged lives. The compensation term was used, ss it highlights that people should be given no hardship, for doing what is for the common good | |||
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"Why wouldn't they be put on furlough like everyone else if they can't work? If I get covid my company will put me on statutory sick pay and not furlough and SSP won’t pay my mortgage
£92 pounds a week wont go far
I genuinely think the government simply dont know what its like to be Joe Public.
Theyve been crapping on about the extra £20 pounds universal credit, like its gonna solve everyones problems"Furlough is 80% of your usual wages. If you get £92 on furlough then your regular wage is £135 which won't go much further in this day. | |||
"People on furlough get 80%. If you're self isolating or test positive then you receive £98 per week if already in employment.If jobless,may GOD help you. However, self employed are accessed based on profit/ tax input.Some are supported with £3000 a month.But payment of rent still a challenge for some business owners. The furlough payments, universal credit, child benefits, single parent benefits, housing benefits all been paid at this time of lockdown with government generating little funds in taxes from companies still operating. So what happens after Covid 19? More drama for the next few years... Retirement age/Pension... Tax increase... Mental Health... Job loss... Food cost/Brexit... Increase in utility bills....Rent/council tax... Transport fares. " It’s going to get very very tough,truly believe hard times for a good many people is coming unfortunately | |||
"Why wouldn't they be put on furlough like everyone else if they can't work? If I get covid my company will put me on statutory sick pay and not furlough and SSP won’t pay my mortgage "That’s awful and half the reason why people do not disclose their contacts. SSP in this country is shockingly low compared to other OECD countries. My sympathies to you. | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. " Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection   | |||
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"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? Well we are heading for 2.5 trillion of debt as a nation so what's few more billion going to bother the U.K. Wasn't it about 1.7 before the pandemic? It was about 2 Trillion now heading for 2.5 Trillion,UK is one of only 4 countries where our debt is more than a year GDP , still what’s 2.5 Trillion debt amongst friends LOL " It's our kids and grandkids that are gonna be paying this back. Never mind the PM down the line won't have gone to Eaton or Oxford university...they will have got their education thro zoom and face time. Not saying you to go to a posh school to be successful but hope you know what I mean! | |||
"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? Well we are heading for 2.5 trillion of debt as a nation so what's few more billion going to bother the U.K. Wasn't it about 1.7 before the pandemic?" It was officially just under 2 before the pandemic and is heading toward 3 now - BUT these figures have never included unfunded public sector pensions (discussed before). Add about a trillion to each figure to cover that. So, er, pretty bad. | |||
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"Might be a touch late for a lot of people but something for the future is life insurance mine covers me for illness granted it wouldn't help during quarantine because I have to be off work for 10 days before it kicks in but it covers my mortgage and all bills incase of injury or illness it also in case i die pays my mortgage off and gives a cash settlement to my next of kin (my mum) I did ring them up in March and it does cover corona virus. It is about £30per month and well worth it for the peace of mind that if you can't work your bills are paid ." | |||
"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? Well we are heading for 2.5 trillion of debt as a nation so what's few more billion going to bother the U.K. Wasn't it about 1.7 before the pandemic? It was officially just under 2 before the pandemic and is heading toward 3 now - BUT these figures have never included unfunded public sector pensions (discussed before). Add about a trillion to each figure to cover that. So, er, pretty bad." Just looked up how much a Trillion is1,000,000 billion which is hard to comprehend | |||
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"Why wouldn't they be put on furlough like everyone else if they can't work? If I get covid my company will put me on statutory sick pay and not furlough and SSP won’t pay my mortgage
£92 pounds a week wont go far
I genuinely think the government simply dont know what its like to be Joe Public.
Theyve been crapping on about the extra £20 pounds universal credit, like its gonna solve everyones problems
Furlough is 80% of your usual wages. If you get £92 on furlough then your regular wage is £135 which won't go much further in this day. "I was talking about sick pay if you have to isolate | |||
"Whatever the amount, I seriously think it should be an assumed cost that we have to pay. The real infection numbers are higher than the reported level, so it would be far better to know and to address the reality. The population are individuals, with widely differing incomes and needs. The higher volumes of people are towards the bottom, than the top. It's madness to ignore the real needs of so many people who have far less control over their lives day to day, than those who are more comfortable. We're burying our heads in the sand, if we ignore them and the damage that we then all face together, because we aren't reducing infection levels by the easy things that we can do. " I don't think its true hat there are more people towards the bottom than the top I would have thought the majority of the country are well above the bread line and if there not I think people should do something about it, hardly the goverments fault that people and up in what ever situation there in. Seems like everyone is turning to the goverment to pay them for something that isn't the goverments fault already furlough schemes and all sorts of other benefits without trying to scrounge more out. Zero hours contracts have been a con for ever it's not new. | |||
"When one of the guys I work with was furloughed he got so much extra top up from universal credit he was taking home hundreds more per month than he earns working " Just wait until the system catches up  the thing with universal credit is that over payments have to be paid back 
And the HMRC system although slow to work will catch up eventually | |||
"Why wouldn't they be put on furlough like everyone else if they can't work? If I get covid my company will put me on statutory sick pay and not furlough and SSP won’t pay my mortgage "Your employer should only pay SSP for the first 3 days then pay full pay & they claim back through the government, well that’s how it is at my employer x | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection "I totally disagree mate, Mrs tested positive, she works in a supermarket, do you think she should of isolated like the law states to save you or someone else, or should she of gone in & spread it & paid a fine? She like 15% of the staff are off with or through covid right now, the common factor work, the conditions they work in & the none control of the public in either numbers or mask wearing & family outings, the employer has a duty of care, just as we do to each other. Yes we are lucky we do not need any support for now, but others do mate it may be the first time in their lives. By the way up to this isolation we both have worked right through this, & not from home where it’s nice & safe xx | |||
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"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection I totally disagree mate, Mrs tested positive, she works in a supermarket, do you think she should of isolated like the law states to save you or someone else, or should she of gone in & spread it & paid a fine? She like 15% of the staff are off with or through covid right now, the common factor work, the conditions they work in & the none control of the public in either numbers or mask wearing & family outings, the employer has a duty of care, just as we do to each other. Yes we are lucky we do not need any support for now, but others do mate it may be the first time in their lives. By the way up to this isolation we both have worked right through this, & not from home where it’s nice & safe xx"Admirable mate and hats off but I’m not saying something shouldn’t be done for folk who are missing out on income due to rona but why does it have to be “compensation” that says someone is responsible for them getting the virus. We can all say the gov didn’t act soon enough, or lockdown long enough etc but they can’t be blamed because I believe IMO if all measures had have been taken sooner rona would have still come and maybe not to current extremes but to some degree of Devastation to lives and jobs/income so who’s to blame and what is the foundation for compo? I just don’t agree is all and in 5 years time “Lawyers 4 you” will be on tv doing just this | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection I totally disagree mate, Mrs tested positive, she works in a supermarket, do you think she should of isolated like the law states to save you or someone else, or should she of gone in & spread it & paid a fine? She like 15% of the staff are off with or through covid right now, the common factor work, the conditions they work in & the none control of the public in either numbers or mask wearing & family outings, the employer has a duty of care, just as we do to each other. Yes we are lucky we do not need any support for now, but others do mate it may be the first time in their lives. By the way up to this isolation we both have worked right through this, & not from home where it’s nice & safe xx"Absolutely agree! You can’t expect people to isolate and not work if they literally have no other option financially. Happy for my tax to go towards this | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection I totally disagree mate, Mrs tested positive, she works in a supermarket, do you think she should of isolated like the law states to save you or someone else, or should she of gone in & spread it & paid a fine? She like 15% of the staff are off with or through covid right now, the common factor work, the conditions they work in & the none control of the public in either numbers or mask wearing & family outings, the employer has a duty of care, just as we do to each other. Yes we are lucky we do not need any support for now, but others do mate it may be the first time in their lives. By the way up to this isolation we both have worked right through this, & not from home where it’s nice & safe xx
Absolutely agree!
You can’t expect people to isolate and not work if they literally have no other option financially.
Happy for my tax to go towards this "If isolating then the individual can’t work  well enjoy stopping work at 80 by the time this is rectified | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection I totally disagree mate, Mrs tested positive, she works in a supermarket, do you think she should of isolated like the law states to save you or someone else, or should she of gone in & spread it & paid a fine? She like 15% of the staff are off with or through covid right now, the common factor work, the conditions they work in & the none control of the public in either numbers or mask wearing & family outings, the employer has a duty of care, just as we do to each other. Yes we are lucky we do not need any support for now, but others do mate it may be the first time in their lives. By the way up to this isolation we both have worked right through this, & not from home where it’s nice & safe xx
Absolutely agree!
You can’t expect people to isolate and not work if they literally have no other option financially.
Happy for my tax to go towards this
If isolating then the individual can’t work well enjoy stopping work at 80 by the time this is rectified "I’ve not said they shouldn’t isolate. As I said, I’m happy for my tax to go towards this being possible for people that need the help to do so. Your point makes no sense as a reply to me xx | |||
"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? " exactly | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection I totally disagree mate, Mrs tested positive, she works in a supermarket, do you think she should of isolated like the law states to save you or someone else, or should she of gone in & spread it & paid a fine? She like 15% of the staff are off with or through covid right now, the common factor work, the conditions they work in & the none control of the public in either numbers or mask wearing & family outings, the employer has a duty of care, just as we do to each other. Yes we are lucky we do not need any support for now, but others do mate it may be the first time in their lives. By the way up to this isolation we both have worked right through this, & not from home where it’s nice & safe xx
Absolutely agree!
You can’t expect people to isolate and not work if they literally have no other option financially.
Happy for my tax to go towards this
If isolating then the individual can’t work well enjoy stopping work at 80 by the time this is rectified
I’ve not said they shouldn’t isolate. As I said, I’m happy for my tax to go towards this being possible for people that need the help to do so.
Your point makes no sense as a reply to me xx"I understand and do think something should be done to help those unfortunate enough to have no or very little income but what I mean is it can’t be compensation, this opens up a can of worms for the disingenuous who will reap rewards for nothing causing the defect to be huge. My last comment was trying to say that isolation means no work for 10-14 days and if testing negative back to work and also the deficit to the economy will be probs paid off when I’m charcoals and you’re pensioned at 80 xx
Hope that makes a little more sense but if not it’s my bed time  | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection I totally disagree mate, Mrs tested positive, she works in a supermarket, do you think she should of isolated like the law states to save you or someone else, or should she of gone in & spread it & paid a fine? She like 15% of the staff are off with or through covid right now, the common factor work, the conditions they work in & the none control of the public in either numbers or mask wearing & family outings, the employer has a duty of care, just as we do to each other. Yes we are lucky we do not need any support for now, but others do mate it may be the first time in their lives. By the way up to this isolation we both have worked right through this, & not from home where it’s nice & safe xx
Absolutely agree!
You can’t expect people to isolate and not work if they literally have no other option financially.
Happy for my tax to go towards this
If isolating then the individual can’t work well enjoy stopping work at 80 by the time this is rectified
I’ve not said they shouldn’t isolate. As I said, I’m happy for my tax to go towards this being possible for people that need the help to do so.
Your point makes no sense as a reply to me xx
I understand and do think something should be done to help those unfortunate enough to have no or very little income but what I mean is it can’t be compensation, this opens up a can of worms for the disingenuous who will reap rewards for nothing causing the defect to be huge.
My last comment was trying to say that isolation means no work for 10-14 days and if testing negative back to work and also the deficit to the economy will be probs paid off when I’m charcoals and you’re pensioned at 80 xx
Hope that makes a little more sense but if not it’s my bed time "I don’t think compensation is the correct word.... but people aren’t going to isolate if they genuinely can’t afford too. It’s difficult cos systems are always going to be abused... just like furlough and stuff has. Ps it made sense now! Ha x | |||
"What financial compensation levels should people have, when infected and having to quarantine? People who, for example, receive no pay unless in work due to zero hours type employment, continue to have rent, mortgages, high winter fuel bills, family food to pay for etc. They should not be expected to suffer much more, to benefit everyone else. Council grants are difficult to qualify for and most are turned down, even though they would only have got a small amount of money. People are blaming others who may be socialising but I think the elephant in the room remains thousands of people who are not financially secure and have a cruel system designed not to help them or the rest of society, for the common good. People will be discouraged from getting tested and known as infected if, for example, they lose their wage/job, can't feed their family and possibly get kicked out of their home. Understand the post and can sympathise however I don’t agree that if you are tested positive for rona and have to isolate etc this should come as form of compensation, which will come from tax payers, but the responsibility should be on the employee. Who’s at fault if an individual becomes ill? Just my opinion and feedback welcomed, however hate or nastiness will be met with joy of reflection I totally disagree mate, Mrs tested positive, she works in a supermarket, do you think she should of isolated like the law states to save you or someone else, or should she of gone in & spread it & paid a fine? She like 15% of the staff are off with or through covid right now, the common factor work, the conditions they work in & the none control of the public in either numbers or mask wearing & family outings, the employer has a duty of care, just as we do to each other. Yes we are lucky we do not need any support for now, but others do mate it may be the first time in their lives. By the way up to this isolation we both have worked right through this, & not from home where it’s nice & safe xx
Absolutely agree!
You can’t expect people to isolate and not work if they literally have no other option financially.
Happy for my tax to go towards this
If isolating then the individual can’t work well enjoy stopping work at 80 by the time this is rectified
I’ve not said they shouldn’t isolate. As I said, I’m happy for my tax to go towards this being possible for people that need the help to do so.
Your point makes no sense as a reply to me xx
I understand and do think something should be done to help those unfortunate enough to have no or very little income but what I mean is it can’t be compensation, this opens up a can of worms for the disingenuous who will reap rewards for nothing causing the defect to be huge.
My last comment was trying to say that isolation means no work for 10-14 days and if testing negative back to work and also the deficit to the economy will be probs paid off when I’m charcoals and you’re pensioned at 80 xx
Hope that makes a little more sense but if not it’s my bed time
I don’t think compensation is the correct word.... but people aren’t going to isolate if they genuinely can’t afford too.
It’s difficult cos systems are always going to be abused... just like furlough and stuff has.
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"Where’s the compensation going to come from ? Well we are heading for 2.5 trillion of debt as a nation so what's few more billion going to bother the U.K. Wasn't it about 1.7 before the pandemic? It was officially just under 2 before the pandemic and is heading toward 3 now - BUT these figures have never included unfunded public sector pensions (discussed before). Add about a trillion to each figure to cover that. So, er, pretty bad. Just looked up how much a Trillion is1,000,000 billion which is hard to comprehend " I could be wrong but I think the financial billion/trillion is usually 1000 times, if so a billion is a thousand million & a trillion is a thousand billion & not one million billion as you quote. Hope I’m right as your figure is much scarier, though either is so far out there to the person on the street it’ll make little difference. S | |||
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"The levels of rejections for the support payments the government said are available have in some cases been as high as 77%.. Simple fact is that some people literally feel they have to choose between staying at home and receiving no money to pay rent, for food etc or go to work .. Other countries have been much more sensible in ensuring this is not a choice some in society have had to make for the benefit of all.. Still at least we've spunked countless billions on a crap track and trace and PPE not fit for purpose.." There’s no choice..... we have a complete fucktard for a pm and a virus that for most people isn’t a concern, you go to work and feed your family unless the government pays your wages to stay home , simple as that | |||
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"Where’s the compensation for the risk for being forced to work for ten months as a key worker ?" I don’t believe people should get this to be honest. We chose the roles we work. I also think it’s different with other illnesses, we don’t force sick leave onto people for any other reason really. Specially if they are feeling perfectly well. And I agree above, my friend was new to a care agency less than 3 months and got covid, only entitled to 3 days sick leave as not been there a year and the rest unpaid. It was very difficult for her, thankfully working in care she had no choice but If she had her own business I appreciate how tempting and difficult it would be to stay off. xxx | |||
"Maybe we should get compensation from China. (It’s not even the first time these viruses have come from there)" Get real | |||
"Maybe we should get compensation from China. (It’s not even the first time these viruses have come from there) Get real" Obviously it won’t happen! | |||
"Maybe we should get compensation from China. (It’s not even the first time these viruses have come from there)" Couldn't agree more with this but I wish anyone luck trying to get a single yen out of them. Have you seen how they blatantly flout worldwide patent laws and haven't had a case proved in their courts yet? It's a dictatorship state in all but name so no one can possibly win against it and we're financing our own demise and their world domination plan by stealth. The only solution is to stop buying their cheap goods and cash starve them into agreement (and we're to greedy for that the same as our blindness re global warming and the effects?) | |||
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"Maybe we should get compensation from China. (It’s not even the first time these viruses have come from there)" I imagine there will be many class actions taken against them in the years to come..... | |||
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"We need better tests for people who have been notified that they need to isolate so they don't have to and can return to work if negative If a positive test is received then a two week covid-19 employment/gov related package should be immediately triggered which amounts to same as 2 weeks normal pay" Better to make it 2 weeks UK average wage. Would you want to see a £300,000 a week footballer getting 2 weeks pay subsidised by the taxpayer? | |||
