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"They are finding the virus preserved in ice cream now. It loves the cold and feeds off the animal fats apparently..
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I had heard this. Apperently they have found it in ice cream in China. How true this is I don't know |
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"OP do you have a source (or preferably sources) for this info? Viruses need a host organism to survive and reproduce long term. "
Indeed 
Feeds hmm
Bacteria and yeasts feed
RNA is genetic code it cannot feed it does not feed
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You could find the virus in a range of foods, if the people in contact with it before you are infected with it and some of it sheds onto the food. Fruit, etc.
Is it something that could not be and wasn't predicted? No. Is it likely to be a substantial problem? No, not if appropriate health and safety precautions are followed by suppliers and individuals take care, including masks, hand washing etc.
Relax. |
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"OP do you have a source (or preferably sources) for this info? Viruses need a host organism to survive and reproduce long term. "
I like raspberry source on my ice-cream  |
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If I remember correctly,back in the spring they were saying it could survive being frozen and become active again once thawed out. I dont know if that is still the thought...but if it is,in theory this could be true and would be all frozen food if it was contaminated. |
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"OP do you have a source (or preferably sources) for this info? Viruses need a host organism to survive and reproduce long term.
Indeed
Feeds hmm
Bacteria and yeasts feed
RNA is genetic code it cannot feed it does not feed
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Correct. RNA needs lower temps than the - 20ish of your common freezer. Hence the Pfizer RNA vaccine needing - 70 degrees. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This makes sense because the ice cream man travels around passing the virus on which explains how it travels around so easily...on a side note ice cream van still driving around my local town playing music because he is an essential worker and everyone wants a 99 in January but now we all know his evil plan is to spread his frozen virus 99 with a flake. |
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"This makes sense because the ice cream man travels around passing the virus on which explains how it travels around so easily...on a side note ice cream van still driving around my local town playing music because he is an essential worker and everyone wants a 99 in January but now we all know his evil plan is to spread his frozen virus 99 with a flake. "
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It's inaccurate to talk about a virus surviving or feeding. A virus is a package containing genetic material and not a free living organism. It's only in a suitable host cell that the virus becomes active and starts making copies of itself. |
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Any sentence that starts with 'they say, they found or they saw' must be true. Afer all 'they' seem to know everything. Even things that are not reality. |
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"This makes sense because the ice cream man travels around passing the virus on which explains how it travels around so easily...on a side note ice cream van still driving around my local town playing music because he is an essential worker and everyone wants a 99 in January but now we all know his evil plan is to spread his frozen virus 99 with a flake. "
What about the ice cream man found dead in his van. Surrounded by hundreds & thousands.
Police think he ‘topped’ himself! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tom mate
You need to get out more
Mixed messaging there my lovely because we are meant to be staying in.
My hilarious wit is wasted on this site  "
And mine.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Here's a link:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-ice-cream-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-china-12188761"
Don't click on the link its a virus!!!. |
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I'm desperately trying to think of an ice cream based pun but I can't.
Thinking..
Brain freeze
Frozen
Vanilla ice
All I can think about is the film the thing when the alien DNA was frozen for thousands of years but that's not a pun.
Oh well I'll keep thinking  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Are people taking this seriously then ? Only thing I've seen of it was on LadBible so I can 100% say that this information is completely accurate no question |
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"I don't eat corona flavoured ice cream so all good here op "
There is actually a Colombian hot chocolate brand that is called Corona and I bought some for my friend for Christmas as he's Colombian.
So yes I guess you could say I gave him Corona for Christmas. |
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"This makes sense because the ice cream man travels around passing the virus on which explains how it travels around so easily...on a side note ice cream van still driving around my local town playing music because he is an essential worker and everyone wants a 99 in January but now we all know his evil plan is to spread his frozen virus 99 with a flake. "
I've already said that you have to watch these bastards, luring people in with their Mr Whippys |
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"Are people taking this seriously then ? Only thing I've seen of it was on LadBible so I can 100% say that this information is completely accurate no question "
Ladbible got the scoop |
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"I don't eat corona flavoured ice cream so all good here op
There is actually a Colombian hot chocolate brand that is called Corona and I bought some for my friend for Christmas as he's Colombian.
So yes I guess you could say I gave him Corona for Christmas. "
Least it was a tasty virus must of been delicious  |
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Now this here is a Walls magnum the most famous ice cream on a stick in the world.
1 in 6 may have Covid on them, you gotta ask yourself this punk , have you eaten 5 or 6 today
Do you feel lucky? |
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"When you say apparently where did you see this information?"
Good question! Sooo much rubbish being talked without foundation. Anyway as we eat iced cream wouldn't it be destroyed by our digestive system or is there a kink I've not heard of involving snorting ice cream? |
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Who the fuck is buying Chinese ice cream?
We need a chat! You are clearly not an ice cream connoisseur. I find it borderline offensive you would do such a think when we have Ben and Jerry's... |
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"Now this here is a Walls magnum the most famous ice cream on a stick in the world.
1 in 6 may have Covid on them, you gotta ask yourself this punk , have you eaten 5 or 6 today
Do you feel lucky?"
Is this not what 5 a day means? Or have I misunderstood the advice? |
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"They are finding the virus preserved in ice cream now. It loves the cold and feeds off the animal fats apparently..
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What's your link OP?
I'd love to read the conclusions.
Did they suggest it was a new dietary regime that is being promoted. -$)
It's been found in untreated water. First account was reported back in about end of June in Australia and then Canada. (I can provide links if you want)
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"Who the fuck is buying Chinese ice cream?
We need a chat! You are clearly not an ice cream connoisseur. I find it borderline offensive you would do such a think when we have Ben and Jerry's... "
We should be buying British now. How can people afford imports |
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What's your link OP?
I'd love to read the conclusions.
Did they suggest it was a new dietary regime that is being promoted. -$)
It's been found in untreated water. First account was reported back in about end of June in Australia and then Canada. (I can provide links if you want)
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well there was a link to a sky news article and here's your daily Daily Mail fix https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9153403/More-4-800-boxes-ice-cream-contaminated-Covid-China.html |
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What's your link OP?
I'd love to read the conclusions.
Did they suggest it was a new dietary regime that is being promoted. -$)
It's been found in untreated water. First account was reported back in about end of June in Australia and then Canada. (I can provide links if you want)
well there was a link to a sky news article and here's your daily Daily Mail fix https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9153403/More-4-800-boxes-ice-cream-contaminated-Covid-China.html"
that link is chilling, it made me icescream and then I felt a bit flakey so I carried on looking on FAB |
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"Don't shoot the messenger...I don't make this nonsense up.. it's all over the news"
It's not a significant issue though, any more than I covered it earlier, Tom. We're better putting our attention on things that are important and to keep everyones' wellbeing as our priority, in these difficult times. There's enough causing anxiety and stress for people as it is. |
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"Don't shoot the messenger...I don't make this nonsense up.. it's all over the news
It's not a significant issue though, any more than I covered it earlier, Tom. We're better putting our attention on things that are important and to keep everyones' wellbeing as our priority, in these difficult times. There's enough causing anxiety and stress for people as it is. "
At least we don't have Covid infected sharks to worry about  |
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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm desperately trying to think of an ice cream based pun but I can't.
Thinking..
Brain freeze
Frozen
Vanilla ice
All I can think about is the film the thing when the alien DNA was frozen for thousands of years but that's not a pun.
Oh well I'll keep thinking "
What a melt |
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"Don't shoot the messenger...I don't make this nonsense up.. it's all over the news
It's not a significant issue though, any more than I covered it earlier, Tom. We're better putting our attention on things that are important and to keep everyones' wellbeing as our priority, in these difficult times. There's enough causing anxiety and stress for people as it is.
At least we don't have Covid infected sharks to worry about "
Is there proof? |
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"Don't shoot the messenger...I don't make this nonsense up.. it's all over the news
It's not a significant issue though, any more than I covered it earlier, Tom. We're better putting our attention on things that are important and to keep everyones' wellbeing as our priority, in these difficult times. There's enough causing anxiety and stress for people as it is.
At least we don't have Covid infected sharks to worry about
Is there proof? "
Yes, in "Shark Daily Post" articles recently published |
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"Don't shoot the messenger...I don't make this nonsense up.. it's all over the news
It's not a significant issue though, any more than I covered it earlier, Tom. We're better putting our attention on things that are important and to keep everyones' wellbeing as our priority, in these difficult times. There's enough causing anxiety and stress for people as it is.
At least we don't have Covid infected sharks to worry about
Is there proof? "
The proof is in the pudding |
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Yes it can survive freezing. We just don't know how much, but we have some info on tests on Sars-Cov-2
"the researchers inoculated 500 tiny individual cubes of salmon, chicken and pork from supermarkets in Singapore with a hefty dose of SARS-CoV-2 viral particles. The meat was then stored at 3 different temperatures: 40C, (refrigeration) -200C, and -800C. After the meat was thawed at various time points (1, 2, 5, 7, 14 and 21 days after inoculation), the researchers determined that the amount of infectious virus—virus capable of reproducing—remained the same whether the temperature was 40C, -200C or -800C. The amount of infectious virus remained the same at 3 weeks in both refrigerated (40C) and frozen samples (-200C and -800C"
If you're cooking your meat, then heat kills the virus.
Ice cream and other cold foodstuffs ? No idea. More research is needed in this field. |
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"Any sentence that starts with 'they say, they found or they saw' must be true. Afer all 'they' seem to know everything. Even things that are not reality. "
Exactly...... "They"are the Dictator in Chief of the USA's favorite experts... "They"haven't a clue.. Trust the experts, not crackpots. |
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"Yes it can survive freezing. We just don't know how much, but we have some info on tests on Sars-Cov-2
"the researchers inoculated 500 tiny individual cubes of salmon, chicken and pork from supermarkets in Singapore with a hefty dose of SARS-CoV-2 viral particles. The meat was then stored at 3 different temperatures: 40C, (refrigeration) -200C, and -800C. After the meat was thawed at various time points (1, 2, 5, 7, 14 and 21 days after inoculation), the researchers determined that the amount of infectious virus—virus capable of reproducing—remained the same whether the temperature was 40C, -200C or -800C. The amount of infectious virus remained the same at 3 weeks in both refrigerated (40C) and frozen samples (-200C and -800C"
If you're cooking your meat, then heat kills the virus.
Ice cream and other cold foodstuffs ? No idea. More research is needed in this field."
So is ice cream dangerous...? |
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" So is ice cream dangerous...?"
Any food, be it hot or cold that is not treated with the proper hygiene and storage controls has the potential to be dangerous.
That said, certain foods stored at cold temperatures don't appear to hinder this virus, nor several others from other virus families, is my take on the science.
Personally, I think provided the food preparation area where the ice cream is made is clean and hygienic (and considering things like listeria, they have to be), I'm not worried about ice cream.
To be honest, I'd be more concerned with listeria in ice cream. From an old article.
"The FDA’s inspection results reinforced that Listeria monocytogenes—the bacterium that caused a deadly outbreak linked to Blue Bell ice cream in 2015—continues to be a common hazard in facilities making similar products. Inspectors visited 89 ice cream production facilities in 2016 and 2017, taking samples from each establishment’s production environment to test for disease-causing bacteria. They detected Listeria monocytogenes in samples from 19 facilities." |
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" So is ice cream dangerous...?
Any food, be it hot or cold that is not treated with the proper hygiene and storage controls has the potential to be dangerous.
That said, certain foods stored at cold temperatures don't appear to hinder this virus, nor several others from other virus families, is my take on the science.
Personally, I think provided the food preparation area where the ice cream is made is clean and hygienic (and considering things like listeria, they have to be), I'm not worried about ice cream.
To be honest, I'd be more concerned with listeria in ice cream. From an old article.
"The FDA’s inspection results reinforced that Listeria monocytogenes—the bacterium that caused a deadly outbreak linked to Blue Bell ice cream in 2015—continues to be a common hazard in facilities making similar products. Inspectors visited 89 ice cream production facilities in 2016 and 2017, taking samples from each establishment’s production environment to test for disease-causing bacteria. They detected Listeria monocytogenes in samples from 19 facilities.""
So there could be listeria and Covid lurking in ice cream? |
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" So is ice cream dangerous...?
Any food, be it hot or cold that is not treated with the proper hygiene and storage controls has the potential to be dangerous.
That said, certain foods stored at cold temperatures don't appear to hinder this virus, nor several others from other virus families, is my take on the science.
Personally, I think provided the food preparation area where the ice cream is made is clean and hygienic (and considering things like listeria, they have to be), I'm not worried about ice cream.
To be honest, I'd be more concerned with listeria in ice cream. From an old article.
"The FDA’s inspection results reinforced that Listeria monocytogenes—the bacterium that caused a deadly outbreak linked to Blue Bell ice cream in 2015—continues to be a common hazard in facilities making similar products. Inspectors visited 89 ice cream production facilities in 2016 and 2017, taking samples from each establishment’s production environment to test for disease-causing bacteria. They detected Listeria monocytogenes in samples from 19 facilities."
So there could be listeria and Covid lurking in ice cream?"
And botulism plus salmonella. |
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" So is ice cream dangerous...?
Any food, be it hot or cold that is not treated with the proper hygiene and storage controls has the potential to be dangerous.
That said, certain foods stored at cold temperatures don't appear to hinder this virus, nor several others from other virus families, is my take on the science.
Personally, I think provided the food preparation area where the ice cream is made is clean and hygienic (and considering things like listeria, they have to be), I'm not worried about ice cream.
To be honest, I'd be more concerned with listeria in ice cream. From an old article.
"The FDA’s inspection results reinforced that Listeria monocytogenes—the bacterium that caused a deadly outbreak linked to Blue Bell ice cream in 2015—continues to be a common hazard in facilities making similar products. Inspectors visited 89 ice cream production facilities in 2016 and 2017, taking samples from each establishment’s production environment to test for disease-causing bacteria. They detected Listeria monocytogenes in samples from 19 facilities."
So there could be listeria and Covid lurking in ice cream?
And botulism plus salmonella."
So are frozen foods risky.. what about peas? |
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" So is ice cream dangerous...?
Any food, be it hot or cold that is not treated with the proper hygiene and storage controls has the potential to be dangerous.
That said, certain foods stored at cold temperatures don't appear to hinder this virus, nor several others from other virus families, is my take on the science.
Personally, I think provided the food preparation area where the ice cream is made is clean and hygienic (and considering things like listeria, they have to be), I'm not worried about ice cream.
To be honest, I'd be more concerned with listeria in ice cream. From an old article.
"The FDA’s inspection results reinforced that Listeria monocytogenes—the bacterium that caused a deadly outbreak linked to Blue Bell ice cream in 2015—continues to be a common hazard in facilities making similar products. Inspectors visited 89 ice cream production facilities in 2016 and 2017, taking samples from each establishment’s production environment to test for disease-causing bacteria. They detected Listeria monocytogenes in samples from 19 facilities."
So there could be listeria and Covid lurking in ice cream?
And botulism plus salmonella.
So are frozen foods risky.. what about peas?"
Frozen parsnips are deadly |
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" So is ice cream dangerous...?
Any food, be it hot or cold that is not treated with the proper hygiene and storage controls has the potential to be dangerous.
That said, certain foods stored at cold temperatures don't appear to hinder this virus, nor several others from other virus families, is my take on the science.
Personally, I think provided the food preparation area where the ice cream is made is clean and hygienic (and considering things like listeria, they have to be), I'm not worried about ice cream.
To be honest, I'd be more concerned with listeria in ice cream. From an old article.
"The FDA’s inspection results reinforced that Listeria monocytogenes—the bacterium that caused a deadly outbreak linked to Blue Bell ice cream in 2015—continues to be a common hazard in facilities making similar products. Inspectors visited 89 ice cream production facilities in 2016 and 2017, taking samples from each establishment’s production environment to test for disease-causing bacteria. They detected Listeria monocytogenes in samples from 19 facilities."
So there could be listeria and Covid lurking in ice cream?
And botulism plus salmonella.
So are frozen foods risky.. what about peas?"
Really bad, even shark's won't eat them |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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" So is ice cream dangerous...?
Any food, be it hot or cold that is not treated with the proper hygiene and storage controls has the potential to be dangerous.
That said, certain foods stored at cold temperatures don't appear to hinder this virus, nor several others from other virus families, is my take on the science.
Personally, I think provided the food preparation area where the ice cream is made is clean and hygienic (and considering things like listeria, they have to be), I'm not worried about ice cream.
To be honest, I'd be more concerned with listeria in ice cream. From an old article.
"The FDA’s inspection results reinforced that Listeria monocytogenes—the bacterium that caused a deadly outbreak linked to Blue Bell ice cream in 2015—continues to be a common hazard in facilities making similar products. Inspectors visited 89 ice cream production facilities in 2016 and 2017, taking samples from each establishment’s production environment to test for disease-causing bacteria. They detected Listeria monocytogenes in samples from 19 facilities."
So there could be listeria and Covid lurking in ice cream?
And botulism plus salmonella.
So are frozen foods risky.. what about peas?
Frozen parsnips are deadly "
Why parsnips.. ? |
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" So is ice cream dangerous...?
Any food, be it hot or cold that is not treated with the proper hygiene and storage controls has the potential to be dangerous.
That said, certain foods stored at cold temperatures don't appear to hinder this virus, nor several others from other virus families, is my take on the science.
Personally, I think provided the food preparation area where the ice cream is made is clean and hygienic (and considering things like listeria, they have to be), I'm not worried about ice cream.
To be honest, I'd be more concerned with listeria in ice cream. From an old article.
"The FDA’s inspection results reinforced that Listeria monocytogenes—the bacterium that caused a deadly outbreak linked to Blue Bell ice cream in 2015—continues to be a common hazard in facilities making similar products. Inspectors visited 89 ice cream production facilities in 2016 and 2017, taking samples from each establishment’s production environment to test for disease-causing bacteria. They detected Listeria monocytogenes in samples from 19 facilities."
So there could be listeria and Covid lurking in ice cream?
And botulism plus salmonella.
So are frozen foods risky.. what about peas?
Frozen parsnips are deadly
Why parsnips.. ?"
They can have your eye out! |
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"Be serious.. should I avoid frozen food..
It'll be ok, I assume you cook it before you eat it. Not ice cream obviously, may be you should avoid that especially if it's made in China. "
I only eat italian or cornish icecream x |
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"Be serious.. should I avoid frozen food..
It'll be ok, I assume you cook it before you eat it. Not ice cream obviously, may be you should avoid that especially if it's made in China. I only eat italian or cornish icecream x"
Probably safer.. no to China ice cream |
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"Be serious.. should I avoid frozen food.."
No. If you eat the SARS-CoV-2 virus, it will do absolutely nothing because it doesn't infect via the gastrointestinal tract. You'll just digest it. Don't sniff ice cream and you'll be reet.
Re: other frozen foods, correct storage and cooking procedures mean they're no higher risk than fresh or canned food. Any food can be contaminated with pathogens. |
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By *ady LickWoman
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"Be serious.. should I avoid frozen food..
It'll be ok, I assume you cook it before you eat it. Not ice cream obviously, may be you should avoid that especially if it's made in China. I only eat italian or cornish icecream x"
Cornish is my favourite |
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"Be serious.. should I avoid frozen food..
It'll be ok, I assume you cook it before you eat it. Not ice cream obviously, may be you should avoid that especially if it's made in China. I only eat italian or cornish icecream x
Cornish is my favourite "
Is that safe? And what about frozen Cornish pasties ? |
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"Be serious.. should I avoid frozen food..
It'll be ok, I assume you cook it before you eat it. Not ice cream obviously, may be you should avoid that especially if it's made in China. I only eat italian or cornish icecream x
Cornish is my favourite
Is that safe? And what about frozen Cornish pasties ?"
Tom you do relise any product that is in a supermarket or shop has been touched multiple times from being picked to packaging to distributed then place on shelf then by general public picking it up then putting it back etc etc at this rate you would never eat  |
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By *ady LickWoman
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"Be serious.. should I avoid frozen food..
It'll be ok, I assume you cook it before you eat it. Not ice cream obviously, may be you should avoid that especially if it's made in China. I only eat italian or cornish icecream x
Cornish is my favourite
Is that safe? And what about frozen Cornish pasties ?"
It better be, I just got a new tub this afternoon. I've quarantined it for 72 hours though because there's been an outbreak at a local Sainsbury's distribution centre. (That's true btw)  |
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"OP do you have a source (or preferably sources) for this info? Viruses need a host organism to survive and reproduce long term.
Indeed
Feeds hmm
Bacteria and yeasts feed
RNA is genetic code it cannot feed it does not feed
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Exactly.
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"Don't shoot the messenger...I don't make this nonsense up.. it's all over the news"
It's not ALL OVER the news. It's one grabbing headline from an undisputed veritable newspaper that has the strictest code of practice to ensure never to mislead the public. 
Most news papers tend to see if there's an ounce of credibility and then they'll push their agenda.
News papers are rarely credible sources to base facts upon imo. |
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"Be serious.. should I avoid frozen food..
It'll be ok, I assume you cook it before you eat it. Not ice cream obviously, may be you should avoid that especially if it's made in China. "
I make my own Ice cream... Free range Yorkshire eggs from the farm and locally produced milk.... I have to buy the heavy cream however....  |
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