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"Ohh this is interesting. I'm assuming that it will be for those in the priority groups rather than anyone. " lol 'For Vulnerable folks.' I said that above. | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9140195/amp/Covid-UK-Boris-Johnson-clashed-NHS-excessive-bureaucracy-slowing-vaccine-rollout.html" He sure did. And rightly so. | |||
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"The First Store to operate it will be in Birmingham." This is a great idea. I can see many already loading up guns to shoot down the idea a bad because..... but good for them. Particularly if they can operate them in strategic areas where current centers are some distance away. | |||
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"Anyway the tread was: Asda will be giving vax's from January 25th. For Vulnerable folks. Starting to motor-on now. I think when it reaches the mainstream outlets like this the vax service will move so much more quickly. Hope other major outlets find a way to do it too. " I forgot what this thread was about for a minute,it digressed slightly | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not ." I think this is the first thing the government have got right..... So far | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . I think this is the first thing the government have got right..... So far" Lets hope so. The ft are hinting the targets arent going to be met but they just need to get it done and spare us the rhetoric. | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . I think this is the first thing the government have got right..... So far Lets hope so. The ft are hinting the targets arent going to be met but they just need to get it done and spare us the rhetoric." If the do half of the target it will be good, we've vaccinated more than the whole of Europe put together | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . I think this is the first thing the government have got right..... So far Lets hope so. The ft are hinting the targets arent going to be met but they just need to get it done and spare us the rhetoric. If the do half of the target it will be good, we've vaccinated more than the whole of Europe put together" Europe started much later than us. We just need to focus on ourselves.. get them vulnerable groups done asap. | |||
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" If the do half of the target it will be good, we've vaccinated more than the whole of Europe put together" Every single vaccination is a good vaccination, and we are ahead of the curve so far. | |||
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"For Vulnerable folks. Starting to motor-on now. " Love a positive virus thread!! Wahoo! x | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. " Exactly but nobody is allowed to be sceptical we all just have to be happy about this apparently. | |||
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"Ohh this is interesting. I'm assuming that it will be for those in the priority groups rather than anyone. " It says vulnerable people so yes. | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. " I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction | |||
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"Would like to see them squeeze more of the key workers up the priority list. " Think lots of the most vulnerable havent had theirs yet. | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction " I agree but my only concern is the is it really going to be in places that the most vulnerable can easily get to. My partner just told his dad who is 84 and he said he would only have the vaccine in a doctor's surgery or pharmacy because he wouldn't trust going to a supermarket for a medical procedure. I'm not knocking the fact that asda are doing this as I think the more places the better I'm just concerned like I said that it's been done in inappropriate settings for the group it is being intended for. | |||
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"The First Store to operate it will be in Birmingham. This is a great idea. I can see many already loading up guns to shoot down the idea a bad because..... but good for them. Particularly if they can operate them in strategic areas where current centers are some distance away." Hope the one near my Grandad does it! | |||
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"Would like to see them squeeze more of the key workers up the priority list. Think lots of the most vulnerable havent had theirs yet." Appreciate that. I just think the groups that are potentially exposed day in day out deserve protection as well. | |||
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"Would like to see them squeeze more of the key workers up the priority list. Think lots of the most vulnerable havent had theirs yet. Appreciate that. I just think the groups that are potentially exposed day in day out deserve protection as well. " They will get protection but actually we are all more protected if people that are likely to wind up in hospital have it 1st. | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction I agree but my only concern is the is it really going to be in places that the most vulnerable can easily get to. My partner just told his dad who is 84 and he said he would only have the vaccine in a doctor's surgery or pharmacy because he wouldn't trust going to a supermarket for a medical procedure. I'm not knocking the fact that asda are doing this as I think the more places the better I'm just concerned like I said that it's been done in inappropriate settings for the group it is being intended for." I don’t think it’s an inappropriate setting, you can see pharmacists in supermarkets for all sorts these days. But I also appreciate a lot of people, possibly the elderly generation may think like that because they’ve never used it that way. Hopefully they get the option to still have it at their GP surgery if that’s their preference. Ofcourse I’m not sure how who goes where will be decided so couldn’t comment on that x | |||
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"Would like to see them squeeze more of the key workers up the priority list. Think lots of the most vulnerable havent had theirs yet. Appreciate that. I just think the groups that are potentially exposed day in day out deserve protection as well. " I agree, put postel workers at the front of the queue ta | |||
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"Would like to see them squeeze more of the key workers up the priority list. Think lots of the most vulnerable havent had theirs yet. Appreciate that. I just think the groups that are potentially exposed day in day out deserve protection as well. " Of courses but protecting the most at risk would considerably ease the burden on the nhs. | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction I agree but my only concern is the is it really going to be in places that the most vulnerable can easily get to. My partner just told his dad who is 84 and he said he would only have the vaccine in a doctor's surgery or pharmacy because he wouldn't trust going to a supermarket for a medical procedure. I'm not knocking the fact that asda are doing this as I think the more places the better I'm just concerned like I said that it's been done in inappropriate settings for the group it is being intended for." Understandable but sometimes in a national emergency we don't all have the choices we want. I'd guess his choice may be have it in asda or wait a bit and have it somewhere to his liking. Neither of which are terrible options. | |||
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"For Vulnerable folks. Starting to motor-on now. " That is bloody brilliant news. Well done asda. Can't wait to see their TV adverts now. Now if they can add a free school meals solution... | |||
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"Not bad for a virus that isnt even in the top 20 of deadly illnesses and a virus where you have to be tested to see if you have it" | |||
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"Would like to see them squeeze more of the key workers up the priority list. Think lots of the most vulnerable havent had theirs yet. Appreciate that. I just think the groups that are potentially exposed day in day out deserve protection as well. I agree, put postel workers at the front of the queue ta " You can go second behind the poor supermarket workers who have carried everyone through. | |||
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"Not even the promise of being given the jab would get me into an Asda. " | |||
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"To be administered by trained Asda staff ? Source....Birmingham live. " I thought this was a joke and it’s the pharmacies doing it haha! | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction I agree but my only concern is the is it really going to be in places that the most vulnerable can easily get to. My partner just told his dad who is 84 and he said he would only have the vaccine in a doctor's surgery or pharmacy because he wouldn't trust going to a supermarket for a medical procedure. I'm not knocking the fact that asda are doing this as I think the more places the better I'm just concerned like I said that it's been done in inappropriate settings for the group it is being intended for. Understandable but sometimes in a national emergency we don't all have the choices we want. I'd guess his choice may be have it in asda or wait a bit and have it somewhere to his liking. Neither of which are terrible options. " I didn't say people will be complaining about a choice of shop to go to, another case of twisting peoples words I questioned the choice of Asda by the Gov rather than pharmacies where vulnerable people don't have to walk through supermarkets to get the jab | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction I agree but my only concern is the is it really going to be in places that the most vulnerable can easily get to. My partner just told his dad who is 84 and he said he would only have the vaccine in a doctor's surgery or pharmacy because he wouldn't trust going to a supermarket for a medical procedure. I'm not knocking the fact that asda are doing this as I think the more places the better I'm just concerned like I said that it's been done in inappropriate settings for the group it is being intended for. Understandable but sometimes in a national emergency we don't all have the choices we want. I'd guess his choice may be have it in asda or wait a bit and have it somewhere to his liking. Neither of which are terrible options. " Exactly my point but I'm worried it's a bit of a PR exercise and not targeting those that it is initially intended for. I think Supermarkets are a fantastic idea further down the priority list though. | |||
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"Would like to see them squeeze more of the key workers up the priority list. Think lots of the most vulnerable havent had theirs yet. Appreciate that. I just think the groups that are potentially exposed day in day out deserve protection as well. I agree, put postel workers at the front of the queue ta You can go second behind the poor supermarket workers who have carried everyone through. " No, I want to go first!!! | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not ." They won't meet them but he's setting aggressive targets ( as with testing) as without them it seems the bureaucrats move very slowly. If the daily fail article has truth in it, well done Boris for putting pressure on to get things moving more quickly.and well done all involved for ramping things up. Great news for once. | |||
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"I dnt care where they do it. I and millions of others will be just happy to receive it so we can get back to some kind of life as for the anti vaxers. The sceptics. The non believers. Bye bye that means we move further up the list be sure to shut the door on the way out . God bless the vaccine and hope it gives us all protection and our lives back " To question whether the roll out is going to be as effective as the government have claimed does not mean that someone is a sceptic of the virus or have the benefit of the vaccine. The over Seventies and clinically vulnerable On meant to be the priority and and the places that are rolling out the vaccine needs to be places these people can get to and feel safe because we will not See the benefit if the vaccine until the most clinically vulnerable have had it. | |||
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"Not even the promise of being given the jab would get me into an Asda. " Bet you are a Waitrose kind of gal? | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction I agree but my only concern is the is it really going to be in places that the most vulnerable can easily get to. My partner just told his dad who is 84 and he said he would only have the vaccine in a doctor's surgery or pharmacy because he wouldn't trust going to a supermarket for a medical procedure. I'm not knocking the fact that asda are doing this as I think the more places the better I'm just concerned like I said that it's been done in inappropriate settings for the group it is being intended for. Understandable but sometimes in a national emergency we don't all have the choices we want. I'd guess his choice may be have it in asda or wait a bit and have it somewhere to his liking. Neither of which are terrible options. Exactly my point but I'm worried it's a bit of a PR exercise and not targeting those that it is initially intended for. I think Supermarkets are a fantastic idea further down the priority list though. " Does it really matter where the vaccine is given? Let's just get it done asap. | |||
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"To be administered by trained Asda staff ? Source....Birmingham live. " Many ASDA stores have in house pharmacies with already trained staff. As do other supermarkets. Tesco in Worcester, Morrison's in Malvern etc.... they already do flu jabs etc. Bring it on!! | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction I agree but my only concern is the is it really going to be in places that the most vulnerable can easily get to. My partner just told his dad who is 84 and he said he would only have the vaccine in a doctor's surgery or pharmacy because he wouldn't trust going to a supermarket for a medical procedure. I'm not knocking the fact that asda are doing this as I think the more places the better I'm just concerned like I said that it's been done in inappropriate settings for the group it is being intended for. Understandable but sometimes in a national emergency we don't all have the choices we want. I'd guess his choice may be have it in asda or wait a bit and have it somewhere to his liking. Neither of which are terrible options. Exactly my point but I'm worried it's a bit of a PR exercise and not targeting those that it is initially intended for. I think Supermarkets are a fantastic idea further down the priority list though. Does it really matter where the vaccine is given? Let's just get it done asap." This is the point people in missing yes it does matter if those that need it the most are unable or unwilling to access it in those settings. Further down the priority list maybe not but at the moment yes it does. | |||
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"Not even the promise of being given the jab would get me into an Asda. Bet you are a Waitrose kind of gal? " Strangely, they are delivering to us tomorrow | |||
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"I dnt care where they do it. I and millions of others will be just happy to receive it so we can get back to some kind of life as for the anti vaxers. The sceptics. The non believers. Bye bye that means we move further up the list be sure to shut the door on the way out . God bless the vaccine and hope it gives us all protection and our lives back To question whether the roll out is going to be as effective as the government have claimed does not mean that someone is a sceptic of the virus or have the benefit of the vaccine. The over Seventies and clinically vulnerable On meant to be the priority and and the places that are rolling out the vaccine needs to be places these people can get to and feel safe because we will not See the benefit if the vaccine until the most clinically vulnerable have had it." Do you think you could stop picking holes in everyone's comments this morning. You have criticised everyone's comments. It was a statement not aimed at anyone in particular. There are all different kinds of people out there. Sceptics. Non believers anti vaxers. I never named anyone | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . They won't meet them but he's setting aggressive targets ( as with testing) as without them it seems the bureaucrats move very slowly. If the daily fail article has truth in it, well done Boris for putting pressure on to get things moving more quickly.and well done all involved for ramping things up. Great news for once. " Presumably the "bureaucrats 'are the people doing the work? | |||
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"I dnt care where they do it. I and millions of others will be just happy to receive it so we can get back to some kind of life as for the anti vaxers. The sceptics. The non believers. Bye bye that means we move further up the list be sure to shut the door on the way out . God bless the vaccine and hope it gives us all protection and our lives back To question whether the roll out is going to be as effective as the government have claimed does not mean that someone is a sceptic of the virus or have the benefit of the vaccine. The over Seventies and clinically vulnerable On meant to be the priority and and the places that are rolling out the vaccine needs to be places these people can get to and feel safe because we will not See the benefit if the vaccine until the most clinically vulnerable have had it. Do you think you could stop picking holes in everyone's comments this morning. You have criticised everyone's comments. It was a statement not aimed at anyone in particular. There are all different kinds of people out there. Sceptics. Non believers anti vaxers. I never named anyone " Are not picking holes in anybody's comments I simply have a slightly different opinion that I am allowed and I have not broken any rules by doing so and I would appreciate not being jumped on every 5 minutes. | |||
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"Not even the promise of being given the jab would get me into an Asda. Bet you are a Waitrose kind of gal? Strangely, they are delivering to us tomorrow " We knew you was posh | |||
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"All sounds very lovely and we are all heading to utopia. There may be just be the little problem of actually having enough vaccine, or has a vaccine tree been found growing next to the money tree. I’m sure there are going to be lots of problems and it won’t be smooth sailing, you don’t have to be happy about it but I’m sure it’s a step in the right direction I agree but my only concern is the is it really going to be in places that the most vulnerable can easily get to. My partner just told his dad who is 84 and he said he would only have the vaccine in a doctor's surgery or pharmacy because he wouldn't trust going to a supermarket for a medical procedure. I'm not knocking the fact that asda are doing this as I think the more places the better I'm just concerned like I said that it's been done in inappropriate settings for the group it is being intended for. Understandable but sometimes in a national emergency we don't all have the choices we want. I'd guess his choice may be have it in asda or wait a bit and have it somewhere to his liking. Neither of which are terrible options. Exactly my point but I'm worried it's a bit of a PR exercise and not targeting those that it is initially intended for. I think Supermarkets are a fantastic idea further down the priority list though. Does it really matter where the vaccine is given? Let's just get it done asap. This is the point people in missing yes it does matter if those that need it the most are unable or unwilling to access it in those settings. Further down the priority list maybe not but at the moment yes it does. " That of course is their choice but we need to get the most vulnerable vaccinated now .The choice of venue shouldn't be an issue if they need medication do they refuse it if it's prescribed through a supermarket pharmacy rather than Boots the chemist or Lloyd's? If its viable and they can get to a supermarket i see no difference in there or a vaccination centre. We need the doctors surgerys open for everyday business so out sourcing vaccination is a great idea. | |||
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"I am not going to rejoice too much so I am sure I will get told off for that, however, I think it is great they are rolling it out to further places, I just think it would have been better to use stand alone pharmacies where people who are first in line for the jab, vulnerable and the like do not have to walk through a shop full of people to get it 12000 stand alone pharmacies have offered to help I also would rather they didn't go for targets saying what they will do as I don't think it will happen for various reasons, I think just give us an update of how many you have jabbed that day so it gives us some hope that it is all going well " I totally agree on the stand alone with God for safety reasons. But in the targets I have no doubt they will make it.. as all they have to do is make a offer of a vaccine by mid Feb. When people will actually get the vaccine... | |||
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"I dnt care where they do it. I and millions of others will be just happy to receive it so we can get back to some kind of life as for the anti vaxers. The sceptics. The non believers. Bye bye that means we move further up the list be sure to shut the door on the way out . God bless the vaccine and hope it gives us all protection and our lives back To question whether the roll out is going to be as effective as the government have claimed does not mean that someone is a sceptic of the virus or have the benefit of the vaccine. The over Seventies and clinically vulnerable On meant to be the priority and and the places that are rolling out the vaccine needs to be places these people can get to and feel safe because we will not See the benefit if the vaccine until the most clinically vulnerable have had it. Do you think you could stop picking holes in everyone's comments this morning. You have criticised everyone's comments. It was a statement not aimed at anyone in particular. There are all different kinds of people out there. Sceptics. Non believers anti vaxers. I never named anyone Are not picking holes in anybody's comments I simply have a slightly different opinion that I am allowed and I have not broken any rules by doing so and I would appreciate not being jumped on every 5 minutes." You jumped on mine and it was not aimed at anyone in particular. Im glad you have an opinion its great we all should. Enjoy your day | |||
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"I think I will step back on this thread . I wish everyone good health and whoever gets the vaccine best of luck. Anyone who gives the vaccine is another step forward to us all getting back to normal. These threads should be happy ones. I have lost loved ones this week so I welcome anyone giving it. " Sorry to hear that! Hugs x | |||
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"Not even the promise of being given the jab would get me into an Asda. Bet you are a Waitrose kind of gal? Strangely, they are delivering to us tomorrow We knew you was posh " We do use Fortnum & Mason too you know (Not) They aren't doing the pocket tap jab though. Thankfully we don't have an Asda nearby so will wait along with everyone else for our call up. | |||
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"I think I will step back on this thread . I wish everyone good health and whoever gets the vaccine best of luck. Anyone who gives the vaccine is another step forward to us all getting back to normal. These threads should be happy ones. I have lost loved ones this week so I welcome anyone giving it. Sorry to hear that! Hugs x" Thank you. Stay safe and well xxx | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . They won't meet them but he's setting aggressive targets ( as with testing) as without them it seems the bureaucrats move very slowly. If the daily fail article has truth in it, well done Boris for putting pressure on to get things moving more quickly.and well done all involved for ramping things up. Great news for once. Presumably the "bureaucrats 'are the people doing the work?" No mate.. They'll be the people getting in the way of the people doing the work | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . They won't meet them but he's setting aggressive targets ( as with testing) as without them it seems the bureaucrats move very slowly. If the daily fail article has truth in it, well done Boris for putting pressure on to get things moving more quickly.and well done all involved for ramping things up. Great news for once. Presumably the "bureaucrats 'are the people doing the work? No mate.. They'll be the people getting in the way of the people doing the work " Of course Like the NHS chief | |||
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"I am not going to rejoice too much so I am sure I will get told off for that, however, I think it is great they are rolling it out to further places, I just think it would have been better to use stand alone pharmacies where people who are first in line for the jab, vulnerable and the like do not have to walk through a shop full of people to get it 12000 stand alone pharmacies have offered to help I also would rather they didn't go for targets saying what they will do as I don't think it will happen for various reasons, I think just give us an update of how many you have jabbed that day so it gives us some hope that it is all going well I totally agree on the stand alone with God for safety reasons. But in the targets I have no doubt they will make it.. as all they have to do is make a offer of a vaccine by mid Feb. When people will actually get the vaccine..." Perhaps the issue of 12000 stand alone pharmacies is one of logistics and distribution. Asda and other supermarkets already have a fantastic logistics and distribution and online shopping process. Perhaps in the interests of speed using something already in place is sensible? | |||
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" K is NHS and on maternity currently she's was called this morning and has been offered a vacinne at 6.30pm at North Tees this evening. Apparently they are desperately trying not to waste shots as a significant amount of people are missing appointments. It's got to be better to get the shot into any arm that see it flushed down the sink surely? KJ" Yes for sure! X | |||
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"I think I will step back on this thread . I wish everyone good health and whoever gets the vaccine best of luck. Anyone who gives the vaccine is another step forward to us all getting back to normal. These threads should be happy ones. I have lost loved ones this week so I welcome anyone giving it. " Agreed .. We have a dearth of good news and this is positive. Don't understand where the aggression is coming from and very sorry to hear your bereavement. Here's a hug if it helps. | |||
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" K is NHS and on maternity currently she's was called this morning and has been offered a vacinne at 6.30pm at North Tees this evening. Apparently they are desperately trying not to waste shots as a significant amount of people are missing appointments. It's got to be better to get the shot into any arm that see it flushed down the sink surely? KJ" Rather predictable unfortunately. But yes of course rather use is than lose it. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. " And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . They won't meet them but he's setting aggressive targets ( as with testing) as without them it seems the bureaucrats move very slowly. If the daily fail article has truth in it, well done Boris for putting pressure on to get things moving more quickly.and well done all involved for ramping things up. Great news for once. Presumably the "bureaucrats 'are the people doing the work? No mate.. They'll be the people getting in the way of the people doing the work Of course Like the NHS chief " I doubt it, but I'm exhausted so as you wish. | |||
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" K is NHS and on maternity currently she's was called this morning and has been offered a vacinne at 6.30pm at North Tees this evening. Apparently they are desperately trying not to waste shots as a significant amount of people are missing appointments. It's got to be better to get the shot into any arm that see it flushed down the sink surely? KJ" I’m sure the teachers putting themselves at risk day in day out would be a better choice tbh. This is enraging .... why not have lists of teachers teaching keyworker and vulnerable kids and call them? Far better use of the vaccine to stop spread is to actually use it on people on the frontline. No joined up thinking as usual | |||
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"They complained there was no vaccine. Multiple vaccines were created and then approved by medical agencies working round the clock. They complained there weren't enough vaccination centres. They repurposed event centres and football grounds. They complained vaccination centres were too far away. They are working with supermarkets to provide even more places accessible for people. They will be complaining next that they have to get their vaccination at 2am. #BeKind " | |||
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"They complained there was no vaccine. Multiple vaccines were created and then approved by medical agencies working round the clock. They complained there weren't enough vaccination centres. They repurposed event centres and football grounds. They complained vaccination centres were too far away. They are working with supermarkets to provide even more places accessible for people. They will be complaining next that they have to get their vaccination at 2am. #BeKind " I dont recall many people complaining there was no vaccine I cant even remember anyone complaining about vaccination centres. The only issue I recall was round about the vaccine itself. | |||
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"I think I will step back on this thread . I wish everyone good health and whoever gets the vaccine best of luck. Anyone who gives the vaccine is another step forward to us all getting back to normal. These threads should be happy ones. I have lost loved ones this week so I welcome anyone giving it. Agreed .. We have a dearth of good news and this is positive. Don't understand where the aggression is coming from and very sorry to hear your bereavement. Here's a hug if it helps. " My aggression is because my profession is being asked to put themselves on the line day after day and they’re no being prioritised ... NHS staff working from home over teachers working in schools is just insulting | |||
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"To be administered by trained Asda staff ? Source....Birmingham live. Many ASDA stores have in house pharmacies with already trained staff. As do other supermarkets. Tesco in Worcester, Morrison's in Malvern etc.... they already do flu jabs etc. Bring it on!!" Yup, I'm sure my Grandad (89yo) will be pleased to go to ASDA for his Covid jab. It might be his first opportunity! | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO " Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. | |||
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"Actually aggression is not correct my LSA caught it last term gave it to her dad who after a long long battle died last week. I’m sad and heartbroken and feel utterly and completely used. " I'm really sorry this is happened and I feel for you. But this is exactly why it has to be done on people's Clinical vulnerability. The vaccine will not necessarily stop someone from catching or passing on the virus but it should hopefully stop so many people like your LSA's father from getting too sick. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. " Everyone has their own agenda ... | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... " Mine is the frontline. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. " Plenty are . As i said own agenda. | |||
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"My mother and I had our flu jabs in a pharmacy in Sainsbury one year, so I can't see why they can't give a Covid one. Pharmacists are trained for that kind of thing. If it's Kev on the veg aisle doing it though I might have to decline. " | |||
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"I think I will step back on this thread . I wish everyone good health and whoever gets the vaccine best of luck. Anyone who gives the vaccine is another step forward to us all getting back to normal. These threads should be happy ones. I have lost loved ones this week so I welcome anyone giving it. Agreed .. We have a dearth of good news and this is positive. Don't understand where the aggression is coming from and very sorry to hear your bereavement. Here's a hug if it helps. My aggression is because my profession is being asked to put themselves on the line day after day and they’re no being prioritised ... NHS staff working from home over teachers working in schools is just insulting " Acute trusts are only vaccinating their own nhs staff at the moment not the wider population that’s why their own staff would get called first. GP surgeries should have a back up list for other “higher priority” people for when people don’t arrive- but I know factually people have just had an apt at the right time and received it when there was spare. Also appreciate the massive effort this would take in go practices... maybe have their lists ready for each roll out maybe and pull the names from the next list. Difficult either way, roll out of more places has to be good in the long run doesn’t it x | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. " Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. " I suspect that group will be quite large . | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. " Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. " I get where you are coming from but it is pointless vaccinating someone that is possibly highly likely to catch it but not to get too sick over say the 87 year old mother they live with. We don't know whether this vaccine limits spread. Getting the virus isn't necessarily a huge issue it's how sick you get with it that is. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first." Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. | |||
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"I have just read how they are going to do it in Birmingham, they are using the George section as a vaccination centre so I am guessing they won't have to walk past a load of shoppers or stand in queues while shoppers walk by to get their jab " This is good. I just hope it reaches more remote ASDA stores..... | |||
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"Good old Asda. " If it’s in Brum the correct term is ‘THE Asda.’ | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... " The agenda should be people who are most risk ...... the over 70s absolutely. Next should be the people that are actually out there. Makes no sense that people working from home are prioritised over a teacher teaching 25 kids in a class all day (and yes there are 25 kids in classes atm regardless of lockdown). The priority should be ability to remove yourself from risk and that isn’t always NHS first | |||
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"If I was Boris/ Matt I would be doing a press conference and saying, "I'm sick to death of all the bitching and complaining. We are in a crisis situation and trying to sort it but you find something wrong in every little thing we do. Sod off and sort it out on your own!!" Then I'd storm off flipping some rude hand signals. " Trying your best is not always good enough. Wanting them to be accountable for things they have wrong is not a bad thing Disclaimer, nothing to do with vaccines, just overall failures | |||
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"If it stops you from catching Covid and spreading it I would want the people who could be spreading it to the most people to have it. At the moment I believe it should be people more likely to end up in an ITU who should be getting it, and people who work in them. " Trouble is.. We don't have the luxury of time here. Priorities are set and being executed. Juggling them continually to meet individual agendas isn't going to help anyone long term. What will help is sticking to the rules and stopping the spread. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. " You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. | |||
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"I have just read how they are going to do it in Birmingham, they are using the George section as a vaccination centre so I am guessing they won't have to walk past a load of shoppers or stand in queues while shoppers walk by to get their jab " I'm guessing Asda is being used because of the space they have inside their buildings. I've seen and heard of scores of old and vulnerable people queueing outside clinics and surgeries in the cold for up to 2 hours. | |||
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"Targets are only to aim for to focus a direction to steertowards, not as so many see as something by which one fails or succeeds. Focus on the objectives and don't look for arguments." Brilliant post. Great reminder while we are in the s. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. " I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. | |||
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"I have just read how they are going to do it in Birmingham, they are using the George section as a vaccination centre so I am guessing they won't have to walk past a load of shoppers or stand in queues while shoppers walk by to get their jab " And get your grand kids school shoes while in there. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. " Teachers at the sister's school where my sister works are in for half a day, every day. She has to go in every day and is regularly carting students down to reception to be sent home, because they feel ill. She's had to isolate once so far, from a child in her bubble testing positive. It might not kill her if she catches it but it could kill her husband. | |||
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"If it stops you from catching Covid and spreading it I would want the people who could be spreading it to the most people to have it. At the moment I believe it should be people more likely to end up in an ITU who should be getting it, and people who work in them. Trouble is.. We don't have the luxury of time here. Priorities are set and being executed. Juggling them continually to meet individual agendas isn't going to help anyone long term. What will help is sticking to the rules and stopping the spread. " This There are so many people in my list of who I think should go first, but there will others with different thoughts on priorities. This is one thing I don't think will please everyone so they have to choose which groups and let the rest of us wait our turn | |||
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"I have just read how they are going to do it in Birmingham, they are using the George section as a vaccination centre so I am guessing they won't have to walk past a load of shoppers or stand in queues while shoppers walk by to get their jab I'm guessing Asda is being used because of the space they have inside their buildings. I've seen and heard of scores of old and vulnerable people queueing outside clinics and surgeries in the cold for up to 2 hours. " Yeah, my MIL was one of them, although they had a sing song while waiting and she was glad of getting out for a bit | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. Teachers at the sister's school where my sister works are in for half a day, every day. She has to go in every day and is regularly carting students down to reception to be sent home, because they feel ill. She's had to isolate once so far, from a child in her bubble testing positive. It might not kill her if she catches it but it could kill her husband. " I think we can all put up an argument for reasons we feel our loved ones in certain occupations should have the vaccine sooner . | |||
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"If it stops you from catching Covid and spreading it I would want the people who could be spreading it to the most people to have it. At the moment I believe it should be people more likely to end up in an ITU who should be getting it, and people who work in them. Trouble is.. We don't have the luxury of time here. Priorities are set and being executed. Juggling them continually to meet individual agendas isn't going to help anyone long term. What will help is sticking to the rules and stopping the spread. This There are so many people in my list of who I think should go first, but there will others with different thoughts on priorities. This is one thing I don't think will please everyone so they have to choose which groups and let the rest of us wait our turn " This! Even with the best intentions were all going to be slightly biased to our own professions or whatever. Being optimistic here and staying positive for a quick and efficient roll out to everyone | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. " So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. " Primary schools are 60% full round here due to the expanding of critical worker status and the fact only one parent has to be a critical worker. Over 150 kids in my sons school. | |||
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"If it stops you from catching Covid and spreading it I would want the people who could be spreading it to the most people to have it. At the moment I believe it should be people more likely to end up in an ITU who should be getting it, and people who work in them. Trouble is.. We don't have the luxury of time here. Priorities are set and being executed. Juggling them continually to meet individual agendas isn't going to help anyone long term. What will help is sticking to the rules and stopping the spread. " I think it's also being sent to areas with the highest rates of infection. Not sure where I read that or if it's true though. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. " And do it where I want, when I want and who I want to give it to me. Other than that... Its easy. | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . I think this is the first thing the government have got right..... So far" If they get to organise it well. I went to a centre on Monday and the vulnerable were met with a piece of paper in the window, informing they'd no supplies. It was atrocious having elderly and disabled out, without informing them that there were no supplies and that their appointments were cancelled. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. " Think that conclusion has been jumped to | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. " Excellent point . | |||
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"I have just read how they are going to do it in Birmingham, they are using the George section as a vaccination centre so I am guessing they won't have to walk past a load of shoppers or stand in queues while shoppers walk by to get their jab I'm guessing Asda is being used because of the space they have inside their buildings. I've seen and heard of scores of old and vulnerable people queueing outside clinics and surgeries in the cold for up to 2 hours. Yeah, my MIL was one of them, although they had a sing song while waiting and she was glad of getting out for a bit " Hope she didn't have a picnic / hot cup of tea with her... | |||
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"It just needs to be rolled out asap. Doesnt matter where it's done. They have set themselves targets.. let's see if they are met or not . I think this is the first thing the government have got right..... So far If they get to organise it well. I went to a centre on Monday and the vulnerable were met with a piece of paper in the window, informing they'd no supplies. It was atrocious having elderly and disabled out, without informing them that there were no supplies and that their appointments were cancelled. " The likes of my MIL only has a landline, ( we bought her a mobile but it is never switched on ) if most are like her they wouldn't have enough time in the day to phone everyone to let them know to be fair | |||
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" K is NHS and on maternity currently she's was called this morning and has been offered a vacinne at 6.30pm at North Tees this evening. Apparently they are desperately trying not to waste shots as a significant amount of people are missing appointments. It's got to be better to get the shot into any arm that see it flushed down the sink surely? KJ Yes for sure! X" I'm driving her there after work. It sounds like some doses are due to run out today as they said to her she had to come today. K will ask them if there are any doses which are going to be wasted that I'm a key worker and I'm just in the car park. KJ | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. And do it where I want, when I want and who I want to give it to me. Other than that... Its easy. " Who said they were doing that in the post? | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker " Nope nor me. | |||
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"If it stops you from catching Covid and spreading it I would want the people who could be spreading it to the most people to have it. At the moment I believe it should be people more likely to end up in an ITU who should be getting it, and people who work in them. " That’s my impression. I’m not sure why a twenty something teacher should be pushed up the list until all the clinically vulnerable have been done. | |||
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"I have just read how they are going to do it in Birmingham, they are using the George section as a vaccination centre so I am guessing they won't have to walk past a load of shoppers or stand in queues while shoppers walk by to get their jab I'm guessing Asda is being used because of the space they have inside their buildings. I've seen and heard of scores of old and vulnerable people queueing outside clinics and surgeries in the cold for up to 2 hours. Yeah, my MIL was one of them, although they had a sing song while waiting and she was glad of getting out for a bit Hope she didn't have a picnic / hot cup of tea with her... " Only if she had a china cup and saucer and it might be difficult to stand in the queue holding that while holding her stick too , anyway, no fine for tea, she was out for essential stuff don't you know | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. And do it where I want, when I want and who I want to give it to me. Other than that... Its easy. Who said they were doing that in the post? " It was mentioned in this thread . | |||
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"If it stops you from catching Covid and spreading it I would want the people who could be spreading it to the most people to have it. At the moment I believe it should be people more likely to end up in an ITU who should be getting it, and people who work in them. Trouble is.. We don't have the luxury of time here. Priorities are set and being executed. Juggling them continually to meet individual agendas isn't going to help anyone long term. What will help is sticking to the rules and stopping the spread. I think it's also being sent to areas with the highest rates of infection. Not sure where I read that or if it's true though." Thing is... I've been told by the Dr taking care of my mum that you can only have it a minimum of 4 weeks after having a negative test. So sending it where everyone is infected doesn't make much sense to me as presumably they'd have to test them first? | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. And do it where I want, when I want and who I want to give it to me. Other than that... Its easy. Who said they were doing that in the post? It was mentioned in this thread ." Can you point out where it was said in my quoted posts? | |||
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" K is NHS and on maternity currently she's was called this morning and has been offered a vacinne at 6.30pm at North Tees this evening. Apparently they are desperately trying not to waste shots as a significant amount of people are missing appointments. It's got to be better to get the shot into any arm that see it flushed down the sink surely? KJ Yes for sure! X I'm driving her there after work. It sounds like some doses are due to run out today as they said to her she had to come today. K will ask them if there are any doses which are going to be wasted that I'm a key worker and I'm just in the car park. KJ" They'll be in the reduced section at asda | |||
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"If it stops you from catching Covid and spreading it I would want the people who could be spreading it to the most people to have it. At the moment I believe it should be people more likely to end up in an ITU who should be getting it, and people who work in them. Trouble is.. We don't have the luxury of time here. Priorities are set and being executed. Juggling them continually to meet individual agendas isn't going to help anyone long term. What will help is sticking to the rules and stopping the spread. I think it's also being sent to areas with the highest rates of infection. Not sure where I read that or if it's true though. Thing is... I've been told by the Dr taking care of my mum that you can only have it a minimum of 4 weeks after having a negative test. So sending it where everyone is infected doesn't make much sense to me as presumably they'd have to test them first? " I didn’t get asked anything about being negative, only if you’ve had flu jab within so many hours/ days prior | |||
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"If it stops you from catching Covid and spreading it I would want the people who could be spreading it to the most people to have it. At the moment I believe it should be people more likely to end up in an ITU who should be getting it, and people who work in them. Trouble is.. We don't have the luxury of time here. Priorities are set and being executed. Juggling them continually to meet individual agendas isn't going to help anyone long term. What will help is sticking to the rules and stopping the spread. I think it's also being sent to areas with the highest rates of infection. Not sure where I read that or if it's true though. Thing is... I've been told by the Dr taking care of my mum that you can only have it a minimum of 4 weeks after having a negative test. So sending it where everyone is infected doesn't make much sense to me as presumably they'd have to test them first? " I'm going to try to find some information on it. | |||
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"I have just read how they are going to do it in Birmingham, they are using the George section as a vaccination centre so I am guessing they won't have to walk past a load of shoppers or stand in queues while shoppers walk by to get their jab " That sounds positive. | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. And do it where I want, when I want and who I want to give it to me. Other than that... Its easy. Who said they were doing that in the post? It was mentioned in this thread . Can you point out where it was said in my quoted posts? " I didnt say you posted it . It was mentioned by someone nearer the top of thread | |||
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"Every vaccine is good however Some of the most vulnerable people still haven't had any offer of a vaccine. Surely the priority should be giving it to those that are most likely to end up very sick and in hospital. The vaccine will only start making a difference once hospital numbers are down. Plenty of people have been offered the vaccine who are on furlough or working entirely from home but because they work for the nhs have been offered it and I know many that have had the vaccine that this does not sit comfortably with. For example there are 15 million people ahead of the shielding group. This group along with care home residents have been entirely shut in for year now so I think this group particularly needs to be further up the list because they were 4th and are now 8th. And teachers they should be ahead of anyone working from home IMO Yeah deffo bump teachers up the list. Everyone has their own agenda ... Mine is the frontline. Plenty are . As i said own agenda. Good to know. I wouldn’t really call it an agenda as I have no real vested interest. But I would like to see the people who have carried us through getting better access to it. Everyone has done their best through this whether working or shielding at home. The most vulnerable and the people expected to care for them should get it first. Not argued against that. But I think broader frontline access is important to protect key workers. You mention teachers as key workers which i agree they are but most schooling is being done online. Supermarket workers / distribution centre workers / manufacturing etc I dont think any of the above should get vaccinated sooner than the government deem necessary. I disagree on Supermarket workers. Demographics and public facing should make them not an immediate priority but perhaps worthy of more attention. So in conclusion. Postmen, NHS, police, fire, wardens, supermarket,teachers, cleaners, delivery drivers, amazon, carers, cared for, over 60s, vulnerable should all be bumped to the top of the queue. And do it where I want, when I want and who I want to give it to me. Other than that... Its easy. Who said they were doing that in the post? It was mentioned in this thread . Can you point out where it was said in my quoted posts? I didnt say you posted it . It was mentioned by someone nearer the top of thread " Ah ok thought as I got quoted it was being insinuated to my posts. Peace and love. | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker " This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. | |||
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"Ok so who will be giving the injections? staff or proper nurses? will there be the appropriate emergency kit be on site and the people trained to use it in the event that someone does have a reaction to it? how will the injections be recorded and logged with the NHS?" It will be ran by the pharmacy the same way it all is now. | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st." The other thing to consider is the 50 year old middle manager working from home may well have children at school who could pass it on to him. | |||
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"Ok so who will be giving the injections? staff or proper nurses? will there be the appropriate emergency kit be on site and the people trained to use it in the event that someone does have a reaction to it? how will the injections be recorded and logged with the NHS? It will be ran by the pharmacy the same way it all is now. " not seen many pharmacys in asda if im honest | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. The other thing to consider is the 50 year old middle manager working from home may well have children at school who could pass it on to him." If he’s working from home he is hopefully not sending his kids to school .... | |||
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"Ok so who will be giving the injections? staff or proper nurses? will there be the appropriate emergency kit be on site and the people trained to use it in the event that someone does have a reaction to it? how will the injections be recorded and logged with the NHS? It will be ran by the pharmacy the same way it all is now. not seen many pharmacys in asda if im honest" Oh, I’d probably say that ones not offering it then- but obviously don’t know factually. All of ours have them and that’s where you get your flu jab and can speak to pharmacists and pick up medication. (All linked to your medical records in a safe space as expected) | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st." We do know this don’t we? Less viral load? Less transmission? That’s been on all the info I’ve read ... | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. We do know this don’t we? Less viral load? Less transmission? That’s been on all the info I’ve read ... " No we don't which is why the vulnerable are being protected 1st because we know 100% that It limits how sick vast majority will get. It is possible and I hope it is the case that it lessens the spread but we can't be sure of that at the moment. | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. The other thing to consider is the 50 year old middle manager working from home may well have children at school who could pass it on to him. If he’s working from home he is hopefully not sending his kids to school .... " Schools have to go back at some point and seeing as the vast majority won't be vaccinated until the summer school should be well back by then hopefully. | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. We do know this don’t we? Less viral load? Less transmission? That’s been on all the info I’ve read ... No we don't which is why the vulnerable are being protected 1st because we know 100% that It limits how sick vast majority will get. It is possible and I hope it is the case that it lessens the spread but we can't be sure of that at the moment. " I still think people exposing themselves to other people say in day out should take precedence over home workers ... definitely. Their risk of contracting is far higher. I’m not taking 20 somethings though What gets me is they surely have the data of the people in hospital/ testing approve and their occupations? Couldn’t the priority be given in that order? | |||
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"Ok so who will be giving the injections? staff or proper nurses? will there be the appropriate emergency kit be on site and the people trained to use it in the event that someone does have a reaction to it? how will the injections be recorded and logged with the NHS? It will be ran by the pharmacy the same way it all is now. not seen many pharmacys in asda if im honest" Our 24 hour Asda has one. The smaller ones don't, but they won't need one as they just need room for people to queue, and hopefully not out in the cold. People are being urged to show up 5 minutes before their appointment but there were still long queues outside in very cold weather. | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. The other thing to consider is the 50 year old middle manager working from home may well have children at school who could pass it on to him. If he’s working from home he is hopefully not sending his kids to school .... Schools have to go back at some point and seeing as the vast majority won't be vaccinated until the summer school should be well back by then hopefully." Then teachers definitely need to be first they have thirty times higher (or 300 if secondary) chance of contracting than a home worker with one child. | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. We do know this don’t we? Less viral load? Less transmission? That’s been on all the info I’ve read ... No we don't which is why the vulnerable are being protected 1st because we know 100% that It limits how sick vast majority will get. It is possible and I hope it is the case that it lessens the spread but we can't be sure of that at the moment. I still think people exposing themselves to other people say in day out should take precedence over home workers ... definitely. Their risk of contracting is far higher. I’m not taking 20 somethings though What gets me is they surely have the data of the people in hospital/ testing approve and their occupations? Couldn’t the priority be given in that order? " That is possible because they haven't Published the priority list for the under fifties that on already covered in the vulnerable category. So it's very possible occupation will be a consideration. This is when I think having it at as many possible locations is going to be when it will be key. | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. We do know this don’t we? Less viral load? Less transmission? That’s been on all the info I’ve read ... No we don't which is why the vulnerable are being protected 1st because we know 100% that It limits how sick vast majority will get. It is possible and I hope it is the case that it lessens the spread but we can't be sure of that at the moment. I still think people exposing themselves to other people say in day out should take precedence over home workers ... definitely. Their risk of contracting is far higher. I’m not taking 20 somethings though What gets me is they surely have the data of the people in hospital/ testing approve and their occupations? Couldn’t the priority be given in that order? " Most GP’s won’t have that data the hospital acute trusts definitely don’t. It would mean being supplied by different boards and organisations. For example every teachers name being submitted to their local GP practice to boost them up the list so to speak. Probably not a big task really x | |||
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"Ok so who will be giving the injections? staff or proper nurses? will there be the appropriate emergency kit be on site and the people trained to use it in the event that someone does have a reaction to it? how will the injections be recorded and logged with the NHS? It will be ran by the pharmacy the same way it all is now. not seen many pharmacys in asda if im honest Our 24 hour Asda has one. The smaller ones don't, but they won't need one as they just need room for people to queue, and hopefully not out in the cold. People are being urged to show up 5 minutes before their appointment but there were still long queues outside in very cold weather. " This is true actually something I hadn't considered I suppose supermarket could operate on a 24 hour basis much more easily than a medical centre. My partner has just said it sounds ideal because he can get his custard creams at the same time as being protected from a deadly virus. | |||
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"Ok so who will be giving the injections? staff or proper nurses? will there be the appropriate emergency kit be on site and the people trained to use it in the event that someone does have a reaction to it? how will the injections be recorded and logged with the NHS? It will be ran by the pharmacy the same way it all is now. not seen many pharmacys in asda if im honest Our 24 hour Asda has one. The smaller ones don't, but they won't need one as they just need room for people to queue, and hopefully not out in the cold. People are being urged to show up 5 minutes before their appointment but there were still long queues outside in very cold weather. This is true actually something I hadn't considered I suppose supermarket could operate on a 24 hour basis much more easily than a medical centre. My partner has just said it sounds ideal because he can get his custard creams at the same time as being protected from a deadly virus. " He'll be lucky. They'll probably be screened off and barricaded from entering the good part of the shop | |||
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"Ok so who will be giving the injections? staff or proper nurses? will there be the appropriate emergency kit be on site and the people trained to use it in the event that someone does have a reaction to it? how will the injections be recorded and logged with the NHS? It will be ran by the pharmacy the same way it all is now. not seen many pharmacys in asda if im honest Our 24 hour Asda has one. The smaller ones don't, but they won't need one as they just need room for people to queue, and hopefully not out in the cold. People are being urged to show up 5 minutes before their appointment but there were still long queues outside in very cold weather. This is true actually something I hadn't considered I suppose supermarket could operate on a 24 hour basis much more easily than a medical centre. My partner has just said it sounds ideal because he can get his custard creams at the same time as being protected from a deadly virus. He'll be lucky. They'll probably be screened off and barricaded from entering the good part of the shop " We won't tell him that. | |||
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"Ok so who will be giving the injections? staff or proper nurses? will there be the appropriate emergency kit be on site and the people trained to use it in the event that someone does have a reaction to it? how will the injections be recorded and logged with the NHS?" Same way as they do flu vaccine I imagine. Which they've been delivering successfully for many years. Now... I'm sure they've thought of that.... Haven't they?! | |||
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" If the do half of the target it will be good, we've vaccinated more than the whole of Europe put together Every single vaccination is a good vaccination, and we are ahead of the curve so far. " 1000 patients to do on Saturday and 2000 more next week, we are working as hard as we can, relying on the supply chain and delivery dates, neither of which are very forthcoming in primary care | |||
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" K is NHS and on maternity currently she's was called this morning and has been offered a vacinne at 6.30pm at North Tees this evening. Apparently they are desperately trying not to waste shots as a significant amount of people are missing appointments. It's got to be better to get the shot into any arm that see it flushed down the sink surely? KJ Yes for sure! X I'm driving her there after work. It sounds like some doses are due to run out today as they said to her she had to come today. K will ask them if there are any doses which are going to be wasted that I'm a key worker and I'm just in the car park. KJ They'll be in the reduced section at asda" Vaccines Vaccines...come get your vaccines 2 for 1 today only! Best in town!! Jay | |||
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"There are two schools of though protect those most at risk of dying vs those most at risk of spreading I think. Personally I feel somewhere in the middle the first group over 70s absolutely but from there I see no sense in a 50 year old middle manager working from home getting priority over a 40 year old frontline worker This is the problem we don't know whether the vaccine has any effect on spread we only know that it probably protects you from getting too seriously sick so that makes it obvious that those that are likely to get sick should go 1st. We do know this don’t we? Less viral load? Less transmission? That’s been on all the info I’ve read ... No we don't which is why the vulnerable are being protected 1st because we know 100% that It limits how sick vast majority will get. It is possible and I hope it is the case that it lessens the spread but we can't be sure of that at the moment. I still think people exposing themselves to other people say in day out should take precedence over home workers ... definitely. Their risk of contracting is far higher. I’m not taking 20 somethings though What gets me is they surely have the data of the people in hospital/ testing approve and their occupations? Couldn’t the priority be given in that order? " Why would they have their occupation? | |||
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