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"AFTER WE HAVE RECIEVED THE VACCINE CAN WE THEN MEET OTHERS WHO HAVE ALSO RECIEVED THE VACCINE ??" Why you shouting? And not really as the vaccine is they to build up immunity giving your body the defences but you can still carry it while it is trying to infect you | |||
"I don't think we'll be returning to anything approaching normal until the majority are vaccinated. " There has never been a timescale published for under 50s so I wonder when the majority will have been vaccinated ? | |||
"I don't think we'll be returning to anything approaching normal until the majority are vaccinated. There has never been a timescale published for under 50s so I wonder when the majority will have been vaccinated ?" The worst case scenario prediction I've seen is that it will take 6 years. The difficulty is finding statistics. It has been stated that the majority of over 80s in this area will be vaccinated by February. There are 8/10,00 over 80s approx, there are about 900 vaccinations being made available per week although that isn't guaranteed. I'm no mathemetician but as February is only 3 weeks away, that doesn't add up. | |||
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"Hopefully they are dropping the requirement for retired medical staff to have passed 21 courses" Yeah, a family member tried to sign up. They're a SRN and after the first 10 requirements they gave up, I expect hundreds more have | |||
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"No, you can still catch it and spread it." Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over | |||
"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over" No it doesn't make it pointless. Reports we see tell us that if we catch it, we are unlikely to need hospitalization, doesn't that take the pressure off the hospitals? | |||
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"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over" You need to look at what's coming out of London and the south east, the hospitals are attributing more cases of the new variant and the need for ICU beds for lower age groups.. | |||
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"AFTER WE HAVE RECIEVED THE VACCINE CAN WE THEN MEET OTHERS WHO HAVE ALSO RECIEVED THE VACCINE ?? Why you shouting? And not really as the vaccine is they to build up immunity giving your body the defences but you can still carry it while it is trying to infect you " Apparently this is untrue as it's not that type of vaccine | |||
"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over You need to look at what's coming out of London and the south east, the hospitals are attributing more cases of the new variant and the need for ICU beds for lower age groups.. " so are you arguing for lockdown till everyone has been inoculated? I think once all the at risk groups are covered restrictions should stop. Theres a high price to pay for lockdowns. There does seem to be goalpost moving going on in some quarters. | |||
"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over" What great reset? | |||
"AFTER WE HAVE RECIEVED THE VACCINE CAN WE THEN MEET OTHERS WHO HAVE ALSO RECIEVED THE VACCINE ?? Why you shouting? And not really as the vaccine is they to build up immunity giving your body the defences but you can still carry it while it is trying to infect you Apparently this is untrue as it's not that type of vaccine " So your saying that once you ah e been vaccinated you cannot carry anything on your body then ? If so it must be a cure and not a vaccine  | |||
"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over You need to look at what's coming out of London and the south east, the hospitals are attributing more cases of the new variant and the need for ICU beds for lower age groups.. so are you arguing for lockdown till everyone has been inoculated? I think once all the at risk groups are covered restrictions should stop. Theres a high price to pay for lockdowns. There does seem to be goalpost moving going on in some quarters. " Not sure how you came to that but certainly with the imminent threat to the hospital capacity spreading across the country then a much more defined criteria needs to be put in place asap.. Unless a person is happy with possibly another ten or twenty thousand deaths by mid Feb.. Who is moving what goalposts? | |||
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"I had my jab on Friday. Id love to meet someone. But Im not going too. Its not safe to do so........But I can dream....." How could you even contemplate meeting someone before your second vaccination ? | |||
"I had my jab on Friday. Id love to meet someone. But Im not going too. Its not safe to do so........But I can dream..... How could you even contemplate meeting someone before your second vaccination ?" He's just dreaming, he didn't say he is going to. We are still allowed to dream, imagine, hope. | |||
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"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over You need to look at what's coming out of London and the south east, the hospitals are attributing more cases of the new variant and the need for ICU beds for lower age groups.. so are you arguing for lockdown till everyone has been inoculated? I think once all the at risk groups are covered restrictions should stop. Theres a high price to pay for lockdowns. There does seem to be goalpost moving going on in some quarters. Not sure how you came to that but certainly with the imminent threat to the hospital capacity spreading across the country then a much more defined criteria needs to be put in place asap.. Unless a person is happy with possibly another ten or twenty thousand deaths by mid Feb.. Who is moving what goalposts?" More defined criteria is the same as shifting the goalposts .. pedantic i know. There are arguments now in place that could see us in lockdown for years. In fact the argument to save the NHS could be used in many situations moving forward. | |||
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"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over You need to look at what's coming out of London and the south east, the hospitals are attributing more cases of the new variant and the need for ICU beds for lower age groups.. so are you arguing for lockdown till everyone has been inoculated? I think once all the at risk groups are covered restrictions should stop. Theres a high price to pay for lockdowns. There does seem to be goalpost moving going on in some quarters. Not sure how you came to that but certainly with the imminent threat to the hospital capacity spreading across the country then a much more defined criteria needs to be put in place asap.. Unless a person is happy with possibly another ten or twenty thousand deaths by mid Feb.. Who is moving what goalposts? More defined criteria is the same as shifting the goalposts .. pedantic i know. There are arguments now in place that could see us in lockdown for years. In fact the argument to save the NHS could be used in many situations moving forward. " No, more defined criteria is in relation to what constitutes essential relating to shops etc.. Not aware of anyone saying we should lockdown for years? Certainly if some had taken more seriously the messages and guidance then we might have had less deaths, less economic damage to some people's lives.. | |||
"It seems to me that the answer will come in the form of vaccination and testing. Vaccination to lessen the severity and regular testing to restrict the spread." This | |||
"So will we still get the vacine if we have had covid? Like the flue jab? X" Yes of course | |||
"AFTER WE HAVE RECIEVED THE VACCINE CAN WE THEN MEET OTHERS WHO HAVE ALSO RECIEVED THE VACCINE ??" After 4 weeks I would say yes definately | |||
"Belgian Health Minister Frank Vandenbroucke has said he expects their country to return to 'normal life's by September. They plan to immunize 9m people against Covid-19 by the end of the summer.. That's 70% of their 11 million population. I wonder how long it will take to vaccinate 70% of the UK population? "About 45% of the population a bit longer I would think even if we get it right | |||
"AFTER WE HAVE RECIEVED THE VACCINE CAN WE THEN MEET OTHERS WHO HAVE ALSO RECIEVED THE VACCINE ??After 4 weeks I would say yes definately" No you can't. You still have to adhere to all the restrictions, that are in force at that time. The vaccine is not a, quick fix. Those getting the vaccine now, are, supposed to be getting told exactly this | |||
"No OP. You can still catch covid and pass it on. " No evidence yet on this so please don't state such as fact. | |||
"No, it doesnt give permanent immunity only temporary." we don't know the length of the immunity yet. Please don't state as fact. | |||
"AFTER WE HAVE RECIEVED THE VACCINE CAN WE THEN MEET OTHERS WHO HAVE ALSO RECIEVED THE VACCINE ??After 4 weeks I would say yes definately" No. There is a chance (no evidence either way) that you can pass on the virus. So, if you catch covid having been vaccinated, you could pass it to someone else who has been vaccinated who can then pass it on to someone else who hasn't been vaccinated. | |||
"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over" So should the NHS stop treating covid and only let you in if you can produce a negative test Make the big reset Quicker.  | |||
"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over You need to look at what's coming out of London and the south east, the hospitals are attributing more cases of the new variant and the need for ICU beds for lower age groups.. so are you arguing for lockdown till everyone has been inoculated? I think once all the at risk groups are covered restrictions should stop. Theres a high price to pay for lockdowns. There does seem to be goalpost moving going on in some quarters. Not sure how you came to that but certainly with the imminent threat to the hospital capacity spreading across the country then a much more defined criteria needs to be put in place asap.. Unless a person is happy with possibly another ten or twenty thousand deaths by mid Feb.. Who is moving what goalposts?" Think that might All ready be the case if it's around 1000 a day | |||
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"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over" This guy is paying attention. Google: victor schwab Great reset. Google: world economic forum Great reset | |||
"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over" That's just the very selfish approach that has cause so much of the problems we're facing now. It's not about you! Hopefully you may understand that. If you don't then look around you and see what has been caused by people with that attitude. It's this same attitude that has put the NHS on the brink. We've just had 3 hospitals here put out message this evening to ALL staff off duty to come in if they can tonight! That's how severe the situation is here. So may I ask all those who think that they can ignore restrictions or even if legitimately they can go out and about to ask themselves, is it essential and do I really have to? If not then don't and help reduce the spread so that those who are saving the lives of those who have caught it, by those who don't really care, can start to get the much needed rest they deserve. It's probably the single most important thing you could do to help. The more people who choose to restrict their movements the quicker this virus will be controlled. | |||
"No, you can still catch it and spread it. Which makes the whole thing pointless. Let’s just get out and start living our lives again because once the great reset happens then it’s game over That's just the very selfish approach that has cause so much of the problems we're facing now. It's not about you! Hopefully you may understand that. If you don't then look around you and see what has been caused by people with that attitude. It's this same attitude that has put the NHS on the brink. We've just had 3 hospitals here put out message this evening to ALL staff off duty to come in if they can tonight! That's how severe the situation is here. So may I ask all those who think that they can ignore restrictions or even if legitimately they can go out and about to ask themselves, is it essential and do I really have to? If not then don't and help reduce the spread so that those who are saving the lives of those who have caught it, by those who don't really care, can start to get the much needed rest they deserve. It's probably the single most important thing you could do to help. The more people who choose to restrict their movements the quicker this virus will be controlled." They obviously don’t love someone who could possibly be more vulnerable. Vile xx | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here "Herd immunity, or so they say. Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly. We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose. I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it. I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine. I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here "When people are vaccinated they can still be infected but should have much reduced symptoms if not show no illness at all. With enough people vaccinated far fewer will suffer serious illness, few will need treatment and the hospitals will not be facing overload, then we can go about our lives again. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
When people are vaccinated they can still be infected but should have much reduced symptoms if not show no illness at all. With enough people vaccinated far fewer will suffer serious illness, few will need treatment and the hospitals will not be facing overload, then we can go about our lives again. "This, i believe. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here "Yes simply 1. Your body will be able to fight the severe effects of the virus. 2. The more people whom are able to fight the severe effects of the virus the less pressure is place upon the NHS. 3. The less pressure placed upon the NHS due to Covid related illnesses the sooner they will be able to resume other urgent medical procedures, cancer treatments, major operations, work on reducing the long back log in waiting lists. 4. As people's immune systems Coe with reducing the severe effects they can start to return to some form of normality, less burden on employers with dwindling workforce being off sick, increase business viability, encourage the economy to build up again. There's a few reasons and there are many more. Hope that helps. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here "I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it. This could get worse befor it gets better HANDS FACE SPACE Its not that hard | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
"Why do you think you don't need it? What is your reason not to have it if it were offered? I'd encourage anyone who is given the opportunity to have the vaccine to take it. If however they choose not to, they are just contributing to slowing down the process. Imagine if only 30% of the population choose like yourself not to have it how much longer it will take to get to the point that you say, 'it should get back to normal'. Imagine how much longer we all will be facing lockdown restrictions. Imagine how much longer it'll take for the economy to start to return. Imagine how much longer it'll be before you'll be able to go on holiday overseas. Just a few things to consider when you choose not to take it. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
When people are vaccinated they can still be infected but should have much reduced symptoms if not show no illness at all. With enough people vaccinated far fewer will suffer serious illness, few will need treatment and the hospitals will not be facing overload, then we can go about our lives again. "So a little bit like all the people that catch it that show no symptoms or dont develop problems anyway. We are just beating nature to it in effect with the vaccine 
I get it I think, we are just having to play catch up for a bit basically.
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"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
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Its not that hard "This is the problem now if you just become a super spreader once vaccinated it comes full circle back to the beginning? And round and round we go | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard "This can apply to those who have had covid too. We're ALL potential spreaders, that why I strongly advocate to ask if going is essential and has to be done or can it wait till you really have to go out. | |||
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"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
"So how do you know you don't need it ? | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard
This can apply to those who have had covid too.
We're ALL potential spreaders, that why I strongly advocate to ask if going is essential and has to be done or can it wait till you really have to go out."Are we nobbling all the vital people we need then by vaccinating the nhs and care workers and making them even more dangerous to be around when we need them the most | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard "Exactly this happened today. An 80 plus year old neighbour speaking over fence in gardens said he had had vaccine a few weeks ago and the second yesterday. He went on to say no more masks for him and he can go out where he wants! I was shocked that even when given the vaccines these people are not told the facts! | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard
Exactly this happened today. An 80 plus year old neighbour speaking over fence in gardens said he had had vaccine a few weeks ago and the second yesterday. He went on to say no more masks for him and he can go out where he wants! I was shocked that even when given the vaccines these people are not told the facts! "They ARE told the facts. They just don't listen or understand or wilfully ignore. | |||
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"And the flu vaccine has never eradicated influenza " No, just decreased deaths substantially. Little things, eh? | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard
This can apply to those who have had covid too.
We're ALL potential spreaders, that why I strongly advocate to ask if going is essential and has to be done or can it wait till you really have to go out.
Are we nobbling all the vital people we need then by vaccinating the nhs and care workers and making them even more dangerous to be around when we need them the most"In what way are we nobbling all the vital people and making them'more' dangerous? | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard
This can apply to those who have had covid too.
We're ALL potential spreaders, that why I strongly advocate to ask if going is essential and has to be done or can it wait till you really have to go out.
Are we nobbling all the vital people we need then by vaccinating the nhs and care workers and making them even more dangerous to be around when we need them the most"No less of them will get sick so there will be more to help the rest of us. So meny are now of sick or isolating | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard
This can apply to those who have had covid too.
We're ALL potential spreaders, that why I strongly advocate to ask if going is essential and has to be done or can it wait till you really have to go out.
Are we nobbling all the vital people we need then by vaccinating the nhs and care workers and making them even more dangerous to be around when we need them the most
In what way are we nobbling all the vital people and making them'more' dangerous?"If being vaccinated doesnt stop us catching and spreading, become superspreaders as mentioned above we are still just as much of a liability basically, which isnt good of you are a healthcare worker. Im not knocking vaccines or the need for this, its just it seems a confusing message for people taking it, if it seems it isnt going to make other people any safer from them. | |||
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"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard
This can apply to those who have had covid too.
We're ALL potential spreaders, that why I strongly advocate to ask if going is essential and has to be done or can it wait till you really have to go out.
Are we nobbling all the vital people we need then by vaccinating the nhs and care workers and making them even more dangerous to be around when we need them the most
No less of them will get sick so there will be more to help the rest of us. So meny are now of sick or isolating "But we are told it doesnt stop you from getting sick, just less sick and you can still pass it on so how will that be different. Im doing my own head in now will stop | |||
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"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ? "Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick. Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest. Probably well over 10 years ago. I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs. I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy. I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything. This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not. I'm not saying im immortal. Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all. | |||
"Once all the people identified as “vulnerable” have been vaccinated and the death rate drops dramatically then spreading the virus becomes far less of a problem because it won’t be fatal to hardly anyone. The economic facts of life will dictate that “normal life “ has to return asap. Anyone not comfortable with that has the option to hide forever. No one forces you to meet people. " Is there an option to hide? Can you explains this I'd love to hide every year from mid October to mid March like a door mouse mmm | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all. "Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest? | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. " Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. " Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh  | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest? "In a hospital many moons ago. Covid-19 real name sars cov-2 is a variant of the original sars. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. " Please don't use my comments about transmissibility not being fully understood to underscore the inaccuracies you have posted. The vaccines are safe and effective in reducing disease burden and use technology that's been developed since the late 80s. They are perfectly safe for use. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all. "So you never had a tetanus, or MMR, Polio by any chance when you where 6 months. And guess you not travels much as not had anything that would allow you in to some places like Africa. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest?
In a hospital many moons ago.
Covid-19 real name sars cov-2 is a variant of the original sars. "I'm well aware how SARS-CoV-2 relates to SARS. Where was this hospital many moons ago? | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest? "Never come into contact with someone with ebola..thats one i definitely fear getting and want to stay the fuck away from... | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard
This can apply to those who have had covid too.
We're ALL potential spreaders, that why I strongly advocate to ask if going is essential and has to be done or can it wait till you really have to go out.
Are we nobbling all the vital people we need then by vaccinating the nhs and care workers and making them even more dangerous to be around when we need them the most
In what way are we nobbling all the vital people and making them'more' dangerous?
If being vaccinated doesnt stop us catching and spreading, become superspreaders as mentioned above we are still just as much of a liability basically, which isnt good of you are a healthcare worker. Im not knocking vaccines or the need for this, its just it seems a confusing message for people taking it, if it seems it isnt going to make other people any safer from them. "The virus is caught mainly through the respiratory system when it stays in the mucus fluids. This is where it can then be passed on to someone else through breathing etc, or by hands that touch our mouth and nose. The vaccine doesn't kill it as has been explained previously. The vaccine will help to keep those in work to stay in work without being sick and reduce staffing issues but as you rightly noted doesn't stop the spread. So the more who get the vaccine the less the numbers needing hospital treatment for it. There is a nasal spray which is out now that is said to kill the virus and keep it at bay in your nasal passage for up to 5 hrs. This is going to be an additional fight against the spreading of it and I imagine we'll soon see this this being used more widely. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest?
Never come into contact with someone with ebola..thats one i definitely fear getting and want to stay the fuck away from..."Good news, there's an Ebola vaccine now. Maybe you'd take that?! Anyway - SARS. Where did you come into contact? | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh "Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative  they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. " Phew. That is what most people would assume from being vaccinated, so it is understandable that there is confusion amongst people when they are being told they definitely still can transmit rather than its not been proven but just be mindful. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all. "But I'll guarantee you've passed it on to someone who hasn't got your superhuman immunity and maybe they have died, battling and facing long covid or were hospitalised and may have some long term side effects, but hey you're ok. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest?
Never come into contact with someone with ebola..thats one i definitely fear getting and want to stay the fuck away from..."Also funny how you don't mention vitamin D as a key funny that  | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying. "I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Please don't use my comments about transmissibility not being fully understood to underscore the inaccuracies you have posted. The vaccines are safe and effective in reducing disease burden and use technology that's been developed since the late 80s. They are perfectly safe for use." Yeah, i dont think im going to trust you on that one. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Phew. That is what most people would assume from being vaccinated, so it is understandable that there is confusion amongst people when they are being told they definitely still can transmit rather than its not been proven but just be mindful. " The problem with people being told "there's insufficient data so we recommend XYZ" is many people fill the gaps from their own vivid imagination. So, being told at your vaccine appointment "you must continue to follow the rules for your safety and that of others" is clear, unambiguous and the safest advice. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Please don't use my comments about transmissibility not being fully understood to underscore the inaccuracies you have posted. The vaccines are safe and effective in reducing disease burden and use technology that's been developed since the late 80s. They are perfectly safe for use. Yeah, i dont think im going to trust you on that one. " Fair enough. Anyway, back to SARS. Whereabouts did you evade this virus that apparently struck down your family? | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do "Absolutely not. But when his profile says he’s caring for someone, the immunity attitude is very worrying. Anything you can do to boost your immune system is great and can only benefit you  but when it knocks Lewis Hamilton for six and he’s a fit as you can get, I think anyone’s mad to think it wouldn’t affect them | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
So you never had a tetanus, or MMR, Polio by any chance when you where 6 months. And guess you not travels much as not had anything that would allow you in to some places like Africa. "Nope bud. And ive been zimbabwe a few times. Got family over there. its a mind fuck isnt it? I get the same reaction and questions everytime
Ive travelled loads bud, spain, majorca, new zealand, germany, a few other places.
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"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do "I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines. Its mind boggling to say the least. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines.
Its mind boggling to say the least. "Not what it’s about. I can probably survive my life without vaccines. I’m just not that selfish to believe everyone else can | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Please don't use my comments about transmissibility not being fully understood to underscore the inaccuracies you have posted. The vaccines are safe and effective in reducing disease burden and use technology that's been developed since the late 80s. They are perfectly safe for use. Yeah, i dont think im going to trust you on that one. Fair enough. Anyway, back to SARS. Whereabouts did you evade this virus that apparently struck down your family? " Would you like google maps co-ordinates? | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Phew. That is what most people would assume from being vaccinated, so it is understandable that there is confusion amongst people when they are being told they definitely still can transmit rather than its not been proven but just be mindful. The problem with people being told "there's insufficient data so we recommend XYZ" is many people fill the gaps from their own vivid imagination. So, being told at your vaccine appointment "you must continue to follow the rules for your safety and that of others" is clear, unambiguous and the safest advice. " Its dangerous to tell people anything! We always misinterpret and run with a worst case scenario whether it came from a good or à bad thing | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
But I'll guarantee you've passed it on to someone who hasn't got your superhuman immunity and maybe they have died, battling and facing long covid or were hospitalised and may have some long term side effects, but hey you're ok. "Okay, where's your guarantee? I want my money back. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. " Unless I'm mistaken this is what was being said in September. Since then there has been more recent studies and they have been cagey about outright admiting they can still spread it even after vaccination. My take is this, they do not want to come out fully and admit that just before a big vaccine launch because people who thought the vaccine meant they were suddenly able to go out as normal would suddenly have misguided doubts about having it. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest?
Never come into contact with someone with ebola..thats one i definitely fear getting and want to stay the fuck away from...
Good news, there's an Ebola vaccine now. Maybe you'd take that?!
Anyway - SARS. Where did you come into contact? "Nah im good. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Unless I'm mistaken this is what was being said in September. Since then there has been more recent studies and they have been cagey about outright admiting they can still spread it even after vaccination. My take is this, they do not want to come out fully and admit that just before a big vaccine launch because people who thought the vaccine meant they were suddenly able to go out as normal would suddenly have misguided doubts about having it." Agreed! Total career suicide for anyone to put any promises on it! | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines.
Its mind boggling to say the least.
Not what it’s about.
I can probably survive my life without vaccines.
I’m just not that selfish to believe everyone else can "You seem to be under some wierd assumption i go around touching, breathing on, or sneezing on people. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines.
Its mind boggling to say the least.
Not what it’s about.
I can probably survive my life without vaccines.
I’m just not that selfish to believe everyone else can
You seem to be under some wierd assumption i go around touching, breathing on, or sneezing on people.
"That’s not a weird assumption it’s total fact unless you don’t have a job, aren’t advertising for hotel meets on your profile, don’t go food shopping, the gym.... not sure how that statement is possible lol | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
Absolutely not.
But when his profile says he’s caring for someone, the immunity attitude is very worrying.
Anything you can do to boost your immune system is great and can only benefit you but when it knocks Lewis Hamilton for six and he’s a fit as you can get, I think anyone’s mad to think it wouldn’t affect them "Hey, you know those things called genes. We all have different genes. You could be the healthiest guy on the planet, and still get knocked back if your genes allow you to. You could eat shit all day everyday and still look like a greek god, life isnt fair. Theres so many factors. Maybe i just have a shit tonne of luck | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest?
Never come into contact with someone with ebola..thats one i definitely fear getting and want to stay the fuck away from...
Good news, there's an Ebola vaccine now. Maybe you'd take that?!
Anyway - SARS. Where did you come into contact?
Nah im good. "Excellent answer to the SARS question. If, as your profile suggests, you are 29, then you were 10 years old when the SARS epidemic started and 12 when it ended. Other than a handful of cases, it was confined to China, Hong Kong and the Far East. There was a cluster in Toronto, connected directly to someone who'd arrived from Hong Kong and who infected people within two hospitals. The chances of you having "survived" SARS, let alone being exposed to it, I would say are very small indeed. I doubt the truth of your earlier statements. Also if Ebola was doing the rounds here and you rejected the vaccine, you're clearly bananas. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
Absolutely not.
But when his profile says he’s caring for someone, the immunity attitude is very worrying.
Anything you can do to boost your immune system is great and can only benefit you but when it knocks Lewis Hamilton for six and he’s a fit as you can get, I think anyone’s mad to think it wouldn’t affect them
Hey, you know those things called genes.
We all have different genes. You could be the healthiest guy on the planet, and still get knocked back if your genes allow you to.
You could eat shit all day everyday and still look like a greek god, life isnt fair.
Theres so many factors. Maybe i just have a shit tonne of luck "As I said, it’s not always about you. Didn’t doubt your very lucky and obviously look after yourself
Have fun! Xx | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
But I'll guarantee you've passed it on to someone who hasn't got your superhuman immunity and maybe they have died, battling and facing long covid or were hospitalised and may have some long term side effects, but hey you're ok.
Okay, where's your guarantee?
I want my money back. "As of 3 days ago the center for national states posted that 1 in 50 in the UK has tested positive. The real figure will be much higher as this is only those who went for testing. They admit this when they say that there are many have may have it who have not been tested because of what it would mean to them if they were positive. There are many who wrongly believe they can't get it because their immune system is so good. These people tend to be less concerned about spreading it and therefore are more likely to spread it as a result of taking less precautions. Not sure what money you want back though? | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines.
Its mind boggling to say the least.
Not what it’s about.
I can probably survive my life without vaccines.
I’m just not that selfish to believe everyone else can
You seem to be under some wierd assumption i go around touching, breathing on, or sneezing on people.
That’s not a weird assumption it’s total fact unless you don’t have a job, aren’t advertising for hotel meets on your profile, don’t go food shopping, the gym.... not sure how that statement is possible lol "I can do all those things you mentioned and still not breathe on people, cough or sneeze on them or touch them. Is that what you do layla? Maybe you are a " super spreader " | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Please don't use my comments about transmissibility not being fully understood to underscore the inaccuracies you have posted. The vaccines are safe and effective in reducing disease burden and use technology that's been developed since the late 80s. They are perfectly safe for use. Yeah, i dont think im going to trust you on that one. Fair enough. Anyway, back to SARS. Whereabouts did you evade this virus that apparently struck down your family? Would you like google maps co-ordinates? " If you'd like to be that specific, yes. Otherwise a general geographic area would suffice. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines.
Its mind boggling to say the least.
Not what it’s about.
I can probably survive my life without vaccines.
I’m just not that selfish to believe everyone else can
You seem to be under some wierd assumption i go around touching, breathing on, or sneezing on people.
That’s not a weird assumption it’s total fact unless you don’t have a job, aren’t advertising for hotel meets on your profile, don’t go food shopping, the gym.... not sure how that statement is possible lol
I can do all those things you mentioned and still not breathe on people, cough or sneeze on them or touch them.
Is that what you do layla?
Maybe you are a " super spreader "
"It’s a pointless argument because if you’ve ever ran on a treadmill or paid for your shopping at a till you’ve breathed on people. But your not educated enough to understand that so it’s a waste of time
I’ve had covid- and thanks to my healthy immune system I’m fine. But I care about other people.
Like I said, have fun! Xx | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest?
Never come into contact with someone with ebola..thats one i definitely fear getting and want to stay the fuck away from...
Good news, there's an Ebola vaccine now. Maybe you'd take that?!
Anyway - SARS. Where did you come into contact?
Nah im good.
Excellent answer to the SARS question. If, as your profile suggests, you are 29, then you were 10 years old when the SARS epidemic started and 12 when it ended. Other than a handful of cases, it was confined to China, Hong Kong and the Far East. There was a cluster in Toronto, connected directly to someone who'd arrived from Hong Kong and who infected people within two hospitals.
The chances of you having "survived" SARS, let alone being exposed to it, I would say are very small indeed.
I doubt the truth of your earlier statements.
Also if Ebola was doing the rounds here and you rejected the vaccine, you're clearly bananas."I guess im bananas | |||
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"I think life has give some people not only some luck, but shit loads of selfishness too. " Others are just deluded. Or don't know what they're on about. (Not you, Magic ) | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines.
Its mind boggling to say the least.
Not what it’s about.
I can probably survive my life without vaccines.
I’m just not that selfish to believe everyone else can
You seem to be under some wierd assumption i go around touching, breathing on, or sneezing on people.
That’s not a weird assumption it’s total fact unless you don’t have a job, aren’t advertising for hotel meets on your profile, don’t go food shopping, the gym.... not sure how that statement is possible lol
I can do all those things you mentioned and still not breathe on people, cough or sneeze on them or touch them.
Is that what you do layla?
Maybe you are a " super spreader "
It’s a pointless argument because if you’ve ever ran on a treadmill or paid for your shopping at a till you’ve breathed on people.
But your not educated enough to understand that so it’s a waste of time
I’ve had covid- and thanks to my healthy immune system I’m fine. But I care about other people.
Like I said, have fun! Xx "" I care about other people " I dont know where you get this wild assumption i dont care about people. Ive cared for many people during this crisis. Ive delivered food. Ive sanitised the fuck out of peoples food packagings just incase and ive stayed away from people apart from my meets which i am guilty of. I dont use treadmills, i run at night when its empty. I do body weight fitness at home, so impossible for me to spread. All shopping places have had screens for the longest of times and i wear a mask when i deem necessary. So dont accuse me of not caring for people as amongst my circles im known exactly for being the one to look after everyone. | |||
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"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines.
Its mind boggling to say the least.
Not what it’s about.
I can probably survive my life without vaccines.
I’m just not that selfish to believe everyone else can
You seem to be under some wierd assumption i go around touching, breathing on, or sneezing on people.
That’s not a weird assumption it’s total fact unless you don’t have a job, aren’t advertising for hotel meets on your profile, don’t go food shopping, the gym.... not sure how that statement is possible lol
I can do all those things you mentioned and still not breathe on people, cough or sneeze on them or touch them.
Is that what you do layla?
Maybe you are a " super spreader "
It’s a pointless argument because if you’ve ever ran on a treadmill or paid for your shopping at a till you’ve breathed on people.
But your not educated enough to understand that so it’s a waste of time
I’ve had covid- and thanks to my healthy immune system I’m fine. But I care about other people.
Like I said, have fun! Xx
" I care about other people "
I dont know where you get this wild assumption i dont care about people. Ive cared for many people during this crisis. Ive delivered food. Ive sanitised the fuck out of peoples food packagings just incase and ive stayed away from people apart from my meets which i am guilty of.
I dont use treadmills, i run at night when its empty.
I do body weight fitness at home, so impossible for me to spread.
All shopping places have had screens for the longest of times and i wear a mask when i deem necessary. So dont accuse me of not caring for people as amongst my circles im known exactly for being the one to look after everyone.
My comment was based on your earlier comment about all illnesses/ vaccines not covid specific "Oh, i do apologise then | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
Herd immunity, or so they say.
Honestly no one knows what the fuck they are on about. No one on here is an expert and regurgitate what theyve been told on the telly.
We'll just have to ride this one out i suppose.
I wont be taking the vaccine as i personally dont need it.
I have friends who have had covid and have antibodies. They are fine.
I'll wait till most are immunised then it should be back to normal.
So how do you know you don't need it ?
Never been vaccinated for anything else bud, and ive been in contact with people in the past who have had meningitis, flu, sars and a few others. I've cared for sick family members and never got sick.
Cant bloody remember the last time i had a cold to be honest.
Probably well over 10 years ago.
I keep healthy, i dont eat shit food, i exercise, i boost my immune system by ensuring my body receives the vital nutrients it needs.
I dont drink, smoke or take drugs, i drink alkaline, distilled water, i eat alkaline foods. I dont eat meat, i dont eat dairy.
I give my body the best chance it has against fighting anything.
This is what everybody should be doing regardless of taking the vaccine or not.
I'm not saying im immortal.
Im saying i have full faith in my immune system because i keep it strong. That is all.
Not ebola?! Where did you come into contact with SARS, out of interest?
Never come into contact with someone with ebola..thats one i definitely fear getting and want to stay the fuck away from...
Good news, there's an Ebola vaccine now. Maybe you'd take that?!
Anyway - SARS. Where did you come into contact?
Nah im good.
Excellent answer to the SARS question. If, as your profile suggests, you are 29, then you were 10 years old when the SARS epidemic started and 12 when it ended. Other than a handful of cases, it was confined to China, Hong Kong and the Far East. There was a cluster in Toronto, connected directly to someone who'd arrived from Hong Kong and who infected people within two hospitals.
The chances of you having "survived" SARS, let alone being exposed to it, I would say are very small indeed.
I doubt the truth of your earlier statements.
Also if Ebola was doing the rounds here and you rejected the vaccine, you're clearly bananas."Sorry, to clear it up, i had a friend who regularly visited hong kong and came back, he was one of my best mates at the time, who actually almost died here in london from sars, and i had been in contact with him, yes its very rare but so is winning the lottery. Im just going by what i was told, i never actually was given proof but you dont really doubt these things or question them when you're a young age. And yes i remember the sars outbreak event those many years ago, i was shitting myself to be honest, i wasnt as brave and fearless as i am today i must admit. Far from it. | |||
" Sorry, to clear it up, i had a friend who regularly visited hong kong and came back, he was one of my best mates at the time, who actually almost died here in london from sars, and i had been in contact with him, yes its very rare but so is winning the lottery. Im just going by what i was told, i never actually was given proof but you dont really doubt these things or question them when you're a young age. And yes i remember the sars outbreak event those many years ago, i was shitting myself to be honest, i wasnt as brave and fearless as i am today i must admit. Far from it. " What a load of cobblers. Try Googling again and see how many people present in the UK actually tested positive for SARS (ever), where they came from and how many were children (unless your best friend when you were 10 was already an adult?) You are talking utter nonsense. | |||
"People who are vaccinated do not magically become super spreaders. Simply put, there's insufficient data to show whether vaccinated people can or cannot carry and spread the virus and so erring on the side of caution is what's required. More data will confirm one way or another at a later date. Studies have rightly focused mainly on "do people get sick" in the vaccine vs placebo groups. More studies are ongoing to tease out other things, like ability to transmit if vaccinated vs not. Exactly, but im not about to stick a vaccine in myself that they are using to test on the population. Call it what ever you like but a vaccine made in 6-8 months with no data on long terms effects.... Erm....no thanks, you guys can be the guinea pigs. I'll speculate and wait. I work from home anyway so not fussed either way. Let’s hope the family member your looking after has the same great immune system and you can’t pass it on huh
Well i get my amazing genes from my father and my brother who is almost identical to me, i was recently in contact with two people with covid 19 ( family members) and i tested negative they are both doing just fine also they recovered.
If your immune system is weak, you are at greater risk. If its strong, not so much, thats all im saying.
I dont think its beyond the realms of possibility that people can have an efficient immune system. Its doing what it was designed to do
I know right? But to the majority of people, they are under some spell that you cant survive life without vaccines.
Its mind boggling to say the least.
Not what it’s about.
I can probably survive my life without vaccines.
I’m just not that selfish to believe everyone else can
You seem to be under some wierd assumption i go around touching, breathing on, or sneezing on people.
That’s not a weird assumption it’s total fact unless you don’t have a job, aren’t advertising for hotel meets on your profile, don’t go food shopping, the gym.... not sure how that statement is possible lol
I can do all those things you mentioned and still not breathe on people, cough or sneeze on them or touch them.
Is that what you do layla?
Maybe you are a " super spreader "
It’s a pointless argument because if you’ve ever ran on a treadmill or paid for your shopping at a till you’ve breathed on people.
But your not educated enough to understand that so it’s a waste of time
I’ve had covid- and thanks to my healthy immune system I’m fine. But I care about other people.
Like I said, have fun! Xx
" I care about other people "
I dont know where you get this wild assumption i dont care about people. Ive cared for many people during this crisis. Ive delivered food. Ive sanitised the fuck out of peoples food packagings just incase and ive stayed away from people apart from my meets which i am guilty of.
I dont use treadmills, i run at night when its empty.
I do body weight fitness at home, so impossible for me to spread.
All shopping places have had screens for the longest of times and i wear a mask when i deem necessary. So dont accuse me of not caring for people as amongst my circles im known exactly for being the one to look after everyone."Youve stayed away from people, apart from your meets? | |||
" Never come into contact with someone with ebola..thats one i definitely fear getting and want to stay the fuck away from..." It's a pity the authorities didn't tell people that this needed treating with the same caution as Ebola. | |||
"The vaccines reduce the potential for very serious illness and death but you remain likely to still get infected and thus to infect others. Does this seem sensible to then meet others, whilst infection levels are high? No. It's wise and responsible, for your own health as well as that of others, to adhere to all precautions. " So not really a vaccine then, more like an immune booster. Confused now as when I get a cholera vaccination and booster or a rabies then I'm protected but not with this one. | |||
"I cant get my head behind we can still catch it and pass it on, so even when fully vaccinated that means? So what are the benefits to taking it then if we cant get away from lockdowns and masks because we are all still spreaders. There must be a simple explanation I am missing here
I do believe in the vaccine but also think there is a danger of people thinking I gave had the vaccine I'm immortal, no you now a supper spreader? As you won't know you have it.
This could get worse befor it gets better
HANDS
FACE
SPACE
Its not that hard
This can apply to those who have had covid too.
We're ALL potential spreaders, that why I strongly advocate to ask if going is essential and has to be done or can it wait till you really have to go out.
Are we nobbling all the vital people we need then by vaccinating the nhs and care workers and making them even more dangerous to be around when we need them the most
In what way are we nobbling all the vital people and making them'more' dangerous?"I think the vaccine is a long term answer.. or so they want it to be | |||
"Once all the people identified as “vulnerable” have been vaccinated and the death rate drops dramatically then spreading the virus becomes far less of a problem because it won’t be fatal to hardly anyone. The economic facts of life will dictate that “normal life “ has to return asap. Anyone not comfortable with that has the option to hide forever. No one forces you to meet people. " The death rate though is not solely due to CVD, as they say. Who's figures are those that died with 28 days of testing... mostly with other health issues. The evidence they speak of is changeable from one week to the next I'm not against having the jab if it helps towards the end results We have to be in it for the long haul | |||
"Once all the people identified as “vulnerable” have been vaccinated and the death rate drops dramatically then spreading the virus becomes far less of a problem because it won’t be fatal to hardly anyone. The economic facts of life will dictate that “normal life “ has to return asap. Anyone not comfortable with that has the option to hide forever. No one forces you to meet people. Is there an option to hide? Can you explains this I'd love to hide every year from mid October to mid March like a door mouse mmm" . I’m not responsible for running your life for you. Hide as much as you want. How you do this is your decision. | |||
"No OP. You can still catch covid and pass it on. No evidence yet on this so please don't state such as fact." The vaccine lessens the symptoms of covid. It does not prevent you from getting it nor does it prevent you from passing it on to others. It is not a miracle cure. Please go back and do some research. | |||
"No OP. You can still catch covid and pass it on. No evidence yet on this so please don't state such as fact. The vaccine lessens the symptoms of covid. It does not prevent you from getting it nor does it prevent you from passing it on to others. It is not a miracle cure. Please go back and do some research. " . No one expects it to be a miracle cure but if vulnerable people have been vaccinated then passing it on is no longer an issue. The common cold gets passed on but because it’s not killing thousands of people it’s not an issue. I for one can’t wait for all the restrictions to be lifted. | |||
"No OP. You can still catch covid and pass it on. No evidence yet on this so please don't state such as fact. The vaccine lessens the symptoms of covid. It does not prevent you from getting it nor does it prevent you from passing it on to others. It is not a miracle cure. Please go back and do some research. . No one expects it to be a miracle cure but if vulnerable people have been vaccinated then passing it on is no longer an issue. The common cold gets passed on but because it’s not killing thousands of people it’s not an issue. I for one can’t wait for all the restrictions to be lifted. " | |||
"I don't think we'll be returning to anything approaching normal until the majority are vaccinated. " Problem is that many people are afraid of having the vaccine | |||
"No OP. You can still catch covid and pass it on. No evidence yet on this so please don't state such as fact. The vaccine lessens the symptoms of covid. It does not prevent you from getting it nor does it prevent you from passing it on to others. It is not a miracle cure. Please go back and do some research. " | |||
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"AFTER WE HAVE RECIEVED THE VACCINE CAN WE THEN MEET OTHERS WHO HAVE ALSO RECIEVED THE VACCINE ?? Why you shouting? And not really as the vaccine is they to build up immunity giving your body the defences but you can still carry it while it is trying to infect you " . IM NOT SHOUTING !!!, i just chose to type in capital letters , didn't realise it meant i was shouting though ? If so every time my mum gives me her shopping list my mum must be shoiting from the rooftops !!! | |||
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"No, it doesnt give permanent immunity only temporary. we don't know the length of the immunity yet. Please don't state as fact." Thanks for picking that idiotic post up. Nothing worse that people posting possibilities as fact. It's a dangerous thing to do! Not even the scientists know how long immunity will last. People still show antibodies now from March 20 infections which is positive for long term. That's before considering T cells etc. Some vaccines are good for life others need boosters every so many years. The flu vaccine is annual due to all the different strains. Regarding covid vaccines we simply don't know. KJ | |||
" Sorry, to clear it up, i had a friend who regularly visited hong kong and came back, he was one of my best mates at the time, who actually almost died here in london from sars, and i had been in contact with him, yes its very rare but so is winning the lottery. Im just going by what i was told, i never actually was given proof but you dont really doubt these things or question them when you're a young age. And yes i remember the sars outbreak event those many years ago, i was shitting myself to be honest, i wasnt as brave and fearless as i am today i must admit. Far from it. What a load of cobblers. Try Googling again and see how many people present in the UK actually tested positive for SARS (ever), where they came from and how many were children (unless your best friend when you were 10 was already an adult?) You are talking utter nonsense." Love it when forum bullshit like this gets totally busted | |||
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