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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South

I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me.

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London

There's a school of thought which believes that the total damage (over time) caused by lockdowns will exceed the damage caused by covid.

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By *ik MMan  over a year ago

Lancashire

I see you’re still peddling the rhetoric that if someone is opposed to lockdown then that’s because they’re obsessed with meeting and their sex life.

Well you might be surprised to hear that there are those of us who fundamentally don’t believe in lockdowns, yet have observed them to the letter thus far because a) We are law abiding citizens, b) We don’t wish to add to the 1 million plus on the unemployment scrap heap and c) we can see the advantages of enhanced hygiene, mask wearing and keeping a degree of distance.

Not everything is black and white and personally I am equally worried about the collateral damage lockdown will and has already caused than Covid itself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me. "

It is an opinion that is being presented by people who do not think that the lockdowns have not worked and have been counterproductive. It does not mean that they are not abiding by the rules, more that they disagree with them and believe things should be done differently. To chastise and in fact ban some people for having an opinion that is different to the majority is very wrong. This is a forum for discussion and opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I see you’re still peddling the rhetoric that if someone is opposed to lockdown then that’s because they’re obsessed with meeting and their sex life.

Well you might be surprised to hear that there are those of us who fundamentally don’t believe in lockdowns, yet have observed them to the letter thus far because a) We are law abiding citizens, b) We don’t wish to add to the 1 million plus on the unemployment scrap heap and c) we can see the advantages of enhanced hygiene, mask wearing and keeping a degree of distance.

Not everything is black and white and personally I am equally worried about the collateral damage lockdown will and has already caused than Covid itself.

"

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central


"I see you’re still peddling the rhetoric that if someone is opposed to lockdown then that’s because they’re obsessed with meeting and their sex life.

Well you might be surprised to hear that there are those of us who fundamentally don’t believe in lockdowns, yet have observed them to the letter thus far because a) We are law abiding citizens, b) We don’t wish to add to the 1 million plus on the unemployment scrap heap and c) we can see the advantages of enhanced hygiene, mask wearing and keeping a degree of distance.

Not everything is black and white and personally I am equally worried about the collateral damage lockdown will and has already caused than Covid itself.

"

I think everyone is concerned with the damages from both lockdown and the virus' direct damage to individuals and the NHS.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There’s little if any trust in politicians and they way this shambles of a government have handled it trying relentless scare tactics and being reactive to the pandemic rather than proactive has not helped convince a lot of people.

The science as well has been presented in a cold and logical way which would work fine if your a binary computer, humans are much more than that with a lot of other complexities.

The one day its this and then the next day it isn’t has also been a major error which just makes people think that they know better.

There also seems to be a feeling that something is being held back and not being told the whole truth or even the real truth, its very “woke”

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me.

It is an opinion that is being presented by people who do not think that the lockdowns have not worked and have been counterproductive. It does not mean that they are not abiding by the rules, more that they disagree with them and believe things should be done differently. To chastise and in fact ban some people for having an opinion that is different to the majority is very wrong. This is a forum for discussion and opinion."

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me.

It is an opinion that is being presented by people who do not think that the lockdowns have not worked and have been counterproductive. It does not mean that they are not abiding by the rules, more that they disagree with them and believe things should be done differently. To chastise and in fact ban some people for having an opinion that is different to the majority is very wrong. This is a forum for discussion and opinion."

The last sentence.

It's supposed to be but there's people on here with some very extreme opinions and cannot and will not be reasoned with.

There's very little in the way of discussion it's more a forum for ranting and chastisement.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"I see you’re still peddling the rhetoric that if someone is opposed to lockdown then that’s because they’re obsessed with meeting and their sex life.

Well you might be surprised to hear that there are those of us who fundamentally don’t believe in lockdowns, yet have observed them to the letter thus far because a) We are law abiding citizens, b) We don’t wish to add to the 1 million plus on the unemployment scrap heap and c) we can see the advantages of enhanced hygiene, mask wearing and keeping a degree of distance.

Not everything is black and white and personally I am equally worried about the collateral damage lockdown will and has already caused than Covid itself.

"

Snippy and rude .... I never mentioned meet for sex I said meet ... which could be meeting family, friends etc etc you’re the one filling in the gaps and making 2+2=5 ......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me.

It is an opinion that is being presented by people who do not think that the lockdowns have not worked and have been counterproductive. It does not mean that they are not abiding by the rules, more that they disagree with them and believe things should be done differently. To chastise and in fact ban some people for having an opinion that is different to the majority is very wrong. This is a forum for discussion and opinion.

The last sentence.

It's supposed to be but there's people on here with some very extreme opinions and cannot and will not be reasoned with.

There's very little in the way of discussion it's more a forum for ranting and chastisement."

Unfortunately most of the extreme opinions are on one side of the argument and it seems to be the people with the alternative opinion that are the ones targeted.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"There's a school of thought which believes that the total damage (over time) caused by lockdowns will exceed the damage caused by covid. "

Yes I agree hence the more need to abide by the rules and even moreso ... maybe had we had a harder lockdown in the first instance (like other countries) the fall out would have been far less damaging.

I understand the associated loss due to lockdown what I don’t get is why this opinion doesn’t make people more likely to isolate rather than less likely.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"There’s little if any trust in politicians and they way this shambles of a government have handled it trying relentless scare tactics and being reactive to the pandemic rather than proactive has not helped convince a lot of people.

The science as well has been presented in a cold and logical way which would work fine if your a binary computer, humans are much more than that with a lot of other complexities.

The one day its this and then the next day it isn’t has also been a major error which just makes people think that they know better.

There also seems to be a feeling that something is being held back and not being told the whole truth or even the real truth, its very “woke”"

So why would this lead to people not caring about how their actions affect others? It’s that leap from ‘I don’t think lockdowns work as more people are dying to therefore I’m not abiding by the rules of lockdown’ that I don’t understand. For example shops aren’t doing business means bankruptcy abs all the awful results of that so why don’t people think ‘hang on if I stay in those shops can open sooner’

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me.

It is an opinion that is being presented by people who do not think that the lockdowns have not worked and have been counterproductive. It does not mean that they are not abiding by the rules, more that they disagree with them and believe things should be done differently. To chastise and in fact ban some people for having an opinion that is different to the majority is very wrong. This is a forum for discussion and opinion.

The last sentence.

It's supposed to be but there's people on here with some very extreme opinions and cannot and will not be reasoned with.

There's very little in the way of discussion it's more a forum for ranting and chastisement."

On both sides.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me.

It is an opinion that is being presented by people who do not think that the lockdowns have not worked and have been counterproductive. It does not mean that they are not abiding by the rules, more that they disagree with them and believe things should be done differently. To chastise and in fact ban some people for having an opinion that is different to the majority is very wrong. This is a forum for discussion and opinion.

The last sentence.

It's supposed to be but there's people on here with some very extreme opinions and cannot and will not be reasoned with.

There's very little in the way of discussion it's more a forum for ranting and chastisement.

Unfortunately most of the extreme opinions are on one side of the argument and it seems to be the people with the alternative opinion that are the ones targeted."

Your joking right?

It was the anti brigade who started with all the sheeples nonsense and abusing people who worse masks before they where compulsory and nearly all of the negative and rude comments I've seen have been aimed at the one's who are following guidelines and covid rules.

I'm not saying that it's completely one sided but I have spent an awful lot of time on here and there have definitely been intentional trolling to get people's backs up and winding people up to try and cause arguments.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me.

It is an opinion that is being presented by people who do not think that the lockdowns have not worked and have been counterproductive. It does not mean that they are not abiding by the rules, more that they disagree with them and believe things should be done differently. To chastise and in fact ban some people for having an opinion that is different to the majority is very wrong. This is a forum for discussion and opinion.

The last sentence.

It's supposed to be but there's people on here with some very extreme opinions and cannot and will not be reasoned with.

There's very little in the way of discussion it's more a forum for ranting and chastisement.

Unfortunately most of the extreme opinions are on one side of the argument and it seems to be the people with the alternative opinion that are the ones targeted.

Your joking right?

It was the anti brigade who started with all the sheeples nonsense and abusing people who worse masks before they where compulsory and nearly all of the negative and rude comments I've seen have been aimed at the one's who are following guidelines and covid rules.

I'm not saying that it's completely one sided but I have spent an awful lot of time on here and there have definitely been intentional trolling to get people's backs up and winding people up to try and cause arguments."

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan  over a year ago

nearby

I think lockdown+ is coming. Cases at 70k a day, parts of London 1 in 20 infected and UK accounting for a third of Europe’s covid.

They’ll ban the takeaways and a French style lockdown is needed if they want to beat the high and increasing infection rate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's a school of thought which believes that the total damage (over time) caused by lockdowns will exceed the damage caused by covid.

Yes I agree hence the more need to abide by the rules and even moreso ... maybe had we had a harder lockdown in the first instance (like other countries) the fall out would have been far less damaging.

I understand the associated loss due to lockdown what I don’t get is why this opinion doesn’t make people more likely to isolate rather than less likely. "

i think because you are lumping 2 lots of groups in as 1

there are people like those that have posted on here who disagree with lockdowns and think they are damaging but understand covid is serious so stay home in the hope its over quicker

there are also those that just hate “the establishment” , ever being told what to do and only care about the impact on themselves ... they continue to behave like they are above the rules and their actions impact nobody

because both are arguing against lockdown i guess they get mixed up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

"

The extreme opinions arise again.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again."

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

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By *perfectpair5050Couple  over a year ago

marlbourgh

I don’t think it really matters whether you agree with the lockdowns or not we all need to follow the rules if people don’t follow them then they’re extending the time of the lockdown it’s not hard to work out is it it is just a nasty Corvid virus that’s killing people no conspiracy no hidden agenda just a nasty virus please follow the rules

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This country is too soft curfews needed and police and army need to be on the streets

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This country is too soft curfews needed and police and army need to be on the streets "

See thats where i draw the line. Enactment of Marshall Law and army troops on the streets, possibly armed and not trained in a policing role is a price to far.

I cannot see any UK government of whatever political persuasion ever going down this route again (i can remember troops on the streets in Northern Ireland, i was not there).

Once they are there it could be very difficult to get a return to barracks if some of the high ranking officers got a taste for power.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

"

Oh the fucking irony

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By *host63Man  over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

A bloke in an old workplace started on how it was bullshit hospitals were empty and the Illuminati were trying to control us.

I walked. Away with him still shouting.

I can never fathom these people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh. "

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires."

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This country is too soft curfews needed and police and army need to be on the streets

See thats where i draw the line. Enactment of Marshall Law and army troops on the streets, possibly armed and not trained in a policing role is a price to far.

I cannot see any UK government of whatever political persuasion ever going down this route again (i can remember troops on the streets in Northern Ireland, i was not there).

Once they are there it could be very difficult to get a return to barracks if some of the high ranking officers got a taste for power."

I think you have misjudged the mentality of the British armed forces to a ridiculous level. The roles they have undertaken during this pandemic and any others will always be taken with a view of protecting our nation, that is the core value of anyone within our 100% volunteer forces.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement. "

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

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By *addyBabygirl2020Couple  over a year ago

norwich


"I see you’re still peddling the rhetoric that if someone is opposed to lockdown then that’s because they’re obsessed with meeting and their sex life.

Well you might be surprised to hear that there are those of us who fundamentally don’t believe in lockdowns, yet have observed them to the letter thus far because a) We are law abiding citizens, b) We don’t wish to add to the 1 million plus on the unemployment scrap heap and c) we can see the advantages of enhanced hygiene, mask wearing and keeping a degree of distance.

Not everything is black and white and personally I am equally worried about the collateral damage lockdown will and has already caused than Covid itself.

"

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By *andare63Man  over a year ago

oldham


"This country is too soft curfews needed and police and army need to be on the streets

See thats where i draw the line. Enactment of Marshall Law and army troops on the streets, possibly armed and not trained in a policing role is a price to far.

I cannot see any UK government of whatever political persuasion ever going down this route again (i can remember troops on the streets in Northern Ireland, i was not there).

Once they are there it could be very difficult to get a return to barracks if some of the high ranking officers got a taste for power."

Absolute nonsense

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

You know when I was watching the coverage on CNN the other day of the riot's/storming of the castle.

There was a reporter on there and he was saying all of this bad feeling, paranoia, and general craziness is for a large part a direct result of Trump constantly blabbing on about conspiracies and the large social media companies doing fuck all to stop him and others spouting their nonsense, brainwashing people who are vunerable or susceptible to such things.

So hardly surprising that people are so intent to believe what they read on Brian's daily basement blog's live from his mum's house.

Than actual real news and what's right in front of their face.

Free speech and opinion is one thing but totally orchestrated theories designed to tap into people's paranoia and brainwash is something completely different.

Large social media companies are going to have to step up and stop the fake news being posted, Trump was always going on about fake news yet he was probably the worst offender.

In summary

The anti lockdown and anti vaxers, conspiracy theorists popping up are just the result of poor moderation by social media giants not doing enough and high profile celebrities (Trump is not a politician) like trump, Kanye West and others being allowed to let off the leash, untethered.

Once again today we have seen protests against lockdown in London, as the death toll passed 80k.

It's shocking and it's about time people who are in a position to influence others started to be held accountable.

I speak Facebook, Twitter, Trump, social media influencer's.

Rant over I'm off to watch telly box.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????."

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"You know when I was watching the coverage on CNN the other day of the riot's/storming of the castle.

There was a reporter on there and he was saying all of this bad feeling, paranoia, and general craziness is for a large part a direct result of Trump constantly blabbing on about conspiracies and the large social media companies doing fuck all to stop him and others spouting their nonsense, brainwashing people who are vunerable or susceptible to such things.

So hardly surprising that people are so intent to believe what they read on Brian's daily basement blog's live from his mum's house.

Than actual real news and what's right in front of their face.

Free speech and opinion is one thing but totally orchestrated theories designed to tap into people's paranoia and brainwash is something completely different.

Large social media companies are going to have to step up and stop the fake news being posted, Trump was always going on about fake news yet he was probably the worst offender.

In summary

The anti lockdown and anti vaxers, conspiracy theorists popping up are just the result of poor moderation by social media giants not doing enough and high profile celebrities (Trump is not a politician) like trump, Kanye West and others being allowed to let off the leash, untethered.

Once again today we have seen protests against lockdown in London, as the death toll passed 80k.

It's shocking and it's about time people who are in a position to influence others started to be held accountable.

I speak Facebook, Twitter, Trump, social media influencer's.

Rant over I'm off to watch telly box."

If there was an applause meme I’d put it here ...

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By *elshsunsWoman  over a year ago

Flintshire


"There's a school of thought which believes that the total damage (over time) caused by lockdowns will exceed the damage caused by covid. "

Yep spot on ....

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By *elshsunsWoman  over a year ago

Flintshire


"I see you’re still peddling the rhetoric that if someone is opposed to lockdown then that’s because they’re obsessed with meeting and their sex life.

Well you might be surprised to hear that there are those of us who fundamentally don’t believe in lockdowns, yet have observed them to the letter thus far because a) We are law abiding citizens, b) We don’t wish to add to the 1 million plus on the unemployment scrap heap and c) we can see the advantages of enhanced hygiene, mask wearing and keeping a degree of distance.

Not everything is black and white and personally I am equally worried about the collateral damage lockdown will and has already caused than Covid itself.

"

Well said this man

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By *elshsunsWoman  over a year ago

Flintshire


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me.

It is an opinion that is being presented by people who do not think that the lockdowns have not worked and have been counterproductive. It does not mean that they are not abiding by the rules, more that they disagree with them and believe things should be done differently. To chastise and in fact ban some people for having an opinion that is different to the majority is very wrong. This is a forum for discussion and opinion."

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"This country is too soft curfews needed and police and army need to be on the streets

See thats where i draw the line. Enactment of Marshall Law and army troops on the streets, possibly armed and not trained in a policing role is a price to far.

I cannot see any UK government of whatever political persuasion ever going down this route again (i can remember troops on the streets in Northern Ireland, i was not there).

Once they are there it could be very difficult to get a return to barracks if some of the high ranking officers got a taste for power."

The police are on the bones of their 8 after 8 years of cutbacks like everywhere else.

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By *elshsunsWoman  over a year ago

Flintshire


"There’s little if any trust in politicians and they way this shambles of a government have handled it trying relentless scare tactics and being reactive to the pandemic rather than proactive has not helped convince a lot of people.

The science as well has been presented in a cold and logical way which would work fine if your a binary computer, humans are much more than that with a lot of other complexities.

The one day its this and then the next day it isn’t has also been a major error which just makes people think that they know better.

There also seems to be a feeling that something is being held back and not being told the whole truth or even the real truth, its very “woke”"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not."

You have yet again put 2+2 and got 5. Who mentioned casual sex?. You have not even thought about the context I made my comment. Having seen you chastise others who have made assumption correctly. All I will say is people in glasshouses should not throw stones.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not.

You have yet again put 2+2 and got 5. Who mentioned casual sex?. You have not even thought about the context I made my comment. Having seen you chastise others who have made assumption correctly. All I will say is people in glasshouses should not throw stones."

*incorrectly

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By *elshsunsWoman  over a year ago

Flintshire


"You know when I was watching the coverage on CNN the other day of the riot's/storming of the castle.

There was a reporter on there and he was saying all of this bad feeling, paranoia, and general craziness is for a large part a direct result of Trump constantly blabbing on about conspiracies and the large social media companies doing fuck all to stop him and others spouting their nonsense, brainwashing people who are vunerable or susceptible to such things.

So hardly surprising that people are so intent to believe what they read on Brian's daily basement blog's live from his mum's house.

Than actual real news and what's right in front of their face.

Free speech and opinion is one thing but totally orchestrated theories designed to tap into people's paranoia and brainwash is something completely different.

Large social media companies are going to have to step up and stop the fake news being posted, Trump was always going on about fake news yet he was probably the worst offender.

In summary

The anti lockdown and anti vaxers, conspiracy theorists popping up are just the result of poor moderation by social media giants not doing enough and high profile celebrities (Trump is not a politician) like trump, Kanye West and others being allowed to let off the leash, untethered.

Once again today we have seen protests against lockdown in London, as the death toll passed 80k.

It's shocking and it's about time people who are in a position to influence others started to be held accountable.

I speak Facebook, Twitter, Trump, social media influencer's.

Rant over I'm off to watch telly box.

If there was an applause meme I’d put it here ... "

Why do people always assume that those with an alternative view do their research from Brian’s basement ... very shallow... I’ve been looking into things for a long time not just this virus !!

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not.

You have yet again put 2+2 and got 5. Who mentioned casual sex?. You have not even thought about the context I made my comment. Having seen you chastise others who have made assumption correctly. All I will say is people in glasshouses should not throw stones."

You did on the other thread and in the pm you sent me straight after saying you’re still meeting.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"You know when I was watching the coverage on CNN the other day of the riot's/storming of the castle.

There was a reporter on there and he was saying all of this bad feeling, paranoia, and general craziness is for a large part a direct result of Trump constantly blabbing on about conspiracies and the large social media companies doing fuck all to stop him and others spouting their nonsense, brainwashing people who are vunerable or susceptible to such things.

So hardly surprising that people are so intent to believe what they read on Brian's daily basement blog's live from his mum's house.

Than actual real news and what's right in front of their face.

Free speech and opinion is one thing but totally orchestrated theories designed to tap into people's paranoia and brainwash is something completely different.

Large social media companies are going to have to step up and stop the fake news being posted, Trump was always going on about fake news yet he was probably the worst offender.

In summary

The anti lockdown and anti vaxers, conspiracy theorists popping up are just the result of poor moderation by social media giants not doing enough and high profile celebrities (Trump is not a politician) like trump, Kanye West and others being allowed to let off the leash, untethered.

Once again today we have seen protests against lockdown in London, as the death toll passed 80k.

It's shocking and it's about time people who are in a position to influence others started to be held accountable.

I speak Facebook, Twitter, Trump, social media influencer's.

Rant over I'm off to watch telly box.

If there was an applause meme I’d put it here ...

Why do people always assume that those with an alternative view do their research from Brian’s basement ... very shallow... I’ve been looking into things for a long time not just this virus !! "

Yeah I remember, right at the start of all this you had already decided that it was all fake etc..

I remember some of your post's.

So you are still saying it's all nonsense and it's no worse than the flu and we should just carry on as normal?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not.

You have yet again put 2+2 and got 5. Who mentioned casual sex?. You have not even thought about the context I made my comment. Having seen you chastise others who have made assumption correctly. All I will say is people in glasshouses should not throw stones.

You did on the other thread and in the pm you sent me straight after saying you’re still meeting. "

Did I say I had or that we should be given the opportunity to. Also as you said it was on another thread, so does not necessarily mean I was referring to the same thing. Never assume anything.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not.

You have yet again put 2+2 and got 5. Who mentioned casual sex?. You have not even thought about the context I made my comment. Having seen you chastise others who have made assumption correctly. All I will say is people in glasshouses should not throw stones.

You did on the other thread and in the pm you sent me straight after saying you’re still meeting.

Did I say I had or that we should be given the opportunity to. Also as you said it was on another thread, so does not necessarily mean I was referring to the same thing. Never assume anything."

Yep - other thread

Person ‘meeting for casual sex is like Russian roulette’

You - load the gun I want to play roulette

Then you declare no one is stopping you meeting who you like and doing what you want. What else did you mean then As I can’t see any ambiguity

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By *ovxshaggxMan  over a year ago

South West London

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not.

You have yet again put 2+2 and got 5. Who mentioned casual sex?. You have not even thought about the context I made my comment. Having seen you chastise others who have made assumption correctly. All I will say is people in glasshouses should not throw stones.

You did on the other thread and in the pm you sent me straight after saying you’re still meeting.

Did I say I had or that we should be given the opportunity to. Also as you said it was on another thread, so does not necessarily mean I was referring to the same thing. Never assume anything.

Yep - other thread

Person ‘meeting for casual sex is like Russian roulette’

You - load the gun I want to play roulette

Then you declare no one is stopping you meeting who you like and doing what you want. What else did you mean then As I can’t see any ambiguity "

My comment says that I want to, not that I have. Again an assumption by you.

My comment, I can’t be made to stay at home. Again no mention of meeting anyone, again another assumption.

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By *oncupiscence73 OP   Woman  over a year ago

South


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not.

You have yet again put 2+2 and got 5. Who mentioned casual sex?. You have not even thought about the context I made my comment. Having seen you chastise others who have made assumption correctly. All I will say is people in glasshouses should not throw stones.

You did on the other thread and in the pm you sent me straight after saying you’re still meeting.

Did I say I had or that we should be given the opportunity to. Also as you said it was on another thread, so does not necessarily mean I was referring to the same thing. Never assume anything.

Yep - other thread

Person ‘meeting for casual sex is like Russian roulette’

You - load the gun I want to play roulette

Then you declare no one is stopping you meeting who you like and doing what you want. What else did you mean then As I can’t see any ambiguity

My comment says that I want to, not that I have. Again an assumption by you.

My comment, I can’t be made to stay at home. Again no mention of meeting anyone, again another assumption. "

So with all the stamping and posturing you are actually following the rules even when you state ‘no one can force me’ ???? what’s the bloody point in all that nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The way I look at it ,I will just do as the government ask, quicker we all do as we are asked quicker we get to meet up with family and friends,I definitely don't believe in being in lockdown for weeks or months but it's just something that we need to do and get our heads around

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am struggling to understand the thought process of anti lockdown people so please can someone shed some light.

I gather they feel that the additional deaths, bankruptcy, unemployment etc are worse than the deaths that would be caused by lockdown.

So why then do they not stick more rigidly to the rules to minimise the length of the lockdown and minimise the associated trauma.

‘I don’t believe in lock down so I want to meet’ just doesn’t make any kind of practical sense to me. "

For me it’s a similar situation to when a new direction or policy comes in place in a workplace. It’s very rare the entire staff agree with decisions but individually we need to apply ourselves regardless.

If you are of the character type who just won’t accept the change, spend your time vocalising the negative, refusing to apply yourself etc then you very soon become the weak link, you make yourself the issue.

The die is cast, we are in lockdown... that isn’t going to change. If you aren’t committing to it then people will view you as selfish, reckless or whatever else. If you are hell bent on vocalising negative views... who are you helping, what are you achieving in terms of positive outcomes?

There’s a number of people on this forum who I just switch off to when the type now... they’ve gone from an opposite view which was considered to a selfish, sometimes ridiculous opinion that grasps the most basic of points.

Look around, we are living in a medical nightmare... decisions have been made so contribute to making it work. If you don’t, if you’re just the voice of negativity then you’re very unlikely to gain the respect of those around you trying for the best outcome for all.

Nationalism is a team game, contribute positively.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So with all the stamping and posturing you are actually following the rules even when you state ‘no one can force me’ ???? what’s the bloody point in all that nonsense. "

Agreed... what are you trying to achieve?

Nobody is going to think “oh wow he was right” if this all ends in disaster... they’ll just think yeah it was the people like him that led to its failure.

Negativity and selfishness... that’s all you are achieving from people’s perceptions.

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By *amschwingerzCouple  over a year ago

West


"A bloke in an old workplace started on how it was bullshit hospitals were empty and the Illuminati were trying to control us.

I walked. Away with him still shouting.

I can never fathom these people"

Professional conspiracy theorists mate, a member of anti everything league..I think you showed great restraint by walking away, I wouldn't have.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So with all the stamping and posturing you are actually following the rules even when you state ‘no one can force me’ ???? what’s the bloody point in all that nonsense.

Agreed... what are you trying to achieve?

Nobody is going to think “oh wow he was right” if this all ends in disaster... they’ll just think yeah it was the people like him that led to its failure.

Negativity and selfishness... that’s all you are achieving from people’s perceptions. "

Thank you for your opinion, but please do not pass judgement on me unless you know my situation. Which I hasten to add is none of your business.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of good stuff here but basically they are nasty low life selfish scum with low IQ.

Tear gas them all we are to soft on them then lock them up for two weeks in cold dark places with no heating.

The extreme opinions arise again.

Lockdown breakers have been imprisoned in other counties surprisingly those countries have far higher compliance and far less deaths ... who’d have thought it eh.

Does not excuse the threats of extreme action. Statistics can be manipulated to show whatever someone desires.

Meh .. you break the law there should be consequences if you refuse to stay at home then maybe the answer is confinement.

I can’t be made to stay at home unfortunately ???????.

Haha and therein lies the problem you think it’s ok to meet people at the moment for causal sex as ‘no one can tell you what to do’ so unfortunately with that mentality a bit of enforcement would and should be necessary. Your actions kill people .. whether you believe it or not.

You have yet again put 2+2 and got 5. Who mentioned casual sex?. You have not even thought about the context I made my comment. Having seen you chastise others who have made assumption correctly. All I will say is people in glasshouses should not throw stones.

You did on the other thread and in the pm you sent me straight after saying you’re still meeting.

Did I say I had or that we should be given the opportunity to. Also as you said it was on another thread, so does not necessarily mean I was referring to the same thing. Never assume anything.

Yep - other thread

Person ‘meeting for casual sex is like Russian roulette’

You - load the gun I want to play roulette

Then you declare no one is stopping you meeting who you like and doing what you want. What else did you mean then As I can’t see any ambiguity

My comment says that I want to, not that I have. Again an assumption by you.

My comment, I can’t be made to stay at home. Again no mention of meeting anyone, again another assumption.

So with all the stamping and posturing you are actually following the rules even when you state ‘no one can force me’ ???? what’s the bloody point in all that nonsense. "

Two different threads , two different conversations. No business of yours what I do and do not do.

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