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By *luns1 OP Man
over a year ago
Preston |
I have just seen on the sky news website that the Moderna vaccine has been approved for use in the UK. Still needs -20 degrees storage but another step forward out of this dark time. It will be available in spring so please don't hold your breath. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"I have just seen on the sky news website that the Moderna vaccine has been approved for use in the UK. Still needs -20 degrees storage but another step forward out of this dark time. It will be available in spring so please don't hold your breath. "
Good News. Any new tool to get life back to normal is worth holding our breath for (for a little while at least). |
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Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then |
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then "
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine |
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine "
Incorrect - between minus 15 and 25 from the CDC licensing in the US - minus 20 is just the middle of that range that’s all - a few degrees either side won’t make any difference |
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine
Incorrect - between minus 15 and 25 from the CDC licensing in the US - minus 20 is just the middle of that range that’s all - a few degrees either side won’t make any difference "
Incorrect. If they say - 20 then why would they allow a higher tolerance.
It is not guaranteed to be less than - 18.
Even the fridge containers I drive are at - 18. They can go lower of course. If the vaccine had a tolerance, why not publish it? |
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine "
just checked my domestic freezer , it's showing -22 c so can be used for the storage of this vaccine  |
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine just checked my domestic freezer , it's showing -22 c so can be used for the storage of this vaccine "
Yours may be but its generally - 18. Just checked mine and it's - 19 |
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine
Incorrect - between minus 15 and 25 from the CDC licensing in the US - minus 20 is just the middle of that range that’s all - a few degrees either side won’t make any difference
Incorrect. If they say - 20 then why would they allow a higher tolerance.
It is not guaranteed to be less than - 18.
Even the fridge containers I drive are at - 18. They can go lower of course. If the vaccine had a tolerance, why not publish it? "
You mean publish it on an official site like this say 
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/moderna/index.html |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine
Incorrect - between minus 15 and 25 from the CDC licensing in the US - minus 20 is just the middle of that range that’s all - a few degrees either side won’t make any difference
Incorrect. If they say - 20 then why would they allow a higher tolerance.
It is not guaranteed to be less than - 18.
Even the fridge containers I drive are at - 18. They can go lower of course. If the vaccine had a tolerance, why not publish it? "
Why tell someone they are wrong when your reasoning is only speculation? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine just checked my domestic freezer , it's showing -22 c so can be used for the storage of this vaccine
Yours may be but its generally - 18. Just checked mine and it's - 19"
So yours isn't most freezers then.  |
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine
Incorrect - between minus 15 and 25 from the CDC licensing in the US - minus 20 is just the middle of that range that’s all - a few degrees either side won’t make any difference
Incorrect. If they say - 20 then why would they allow a higher tolerance.
It is not guaranteed to be less than - 18.
Even the fridge containers I drive are at - 18. They can go lower of course. If the vaccine had a tolerance, why not publish it?
You mean publish it on an official site like this say
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/moderna/index.html"
Perhaps me but I used the link but nowhere temperature allowance on there |
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine
Incorrect - between minus 15 and 25 from the CDC licensing in the US - minus 20 is just the middle of that range that’s all - a few degrees either side won’t make any difference
Incorrect. If they say - 20 then why would they allow a higher tolerance.
It is not guaranteed to be less than - 18.
Even the fridge containers I drive are at - 18. They can go lower of course. If the vaccine had a tolerance, why not publish it?
You mean publish it on an official site like this say
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/moderna/index.html"
They're incorrect. They don't know it but someone will argue black is red for the sake of it.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Basically needs a ‘normal’ freezer as opposed to the really cold ones Pfizer needs - so easier to use and dish out
Enough for over 8 million people to have both doses and arrives in the spring - we have enough Pfizer and oxford to keep going until then
Most 'normal' freezers (domestic) go down to -18 which isn't cold enough. It needs -20. Unsuitable for the vaccine
Incorrect - between minus 15 and 25 from the CDC licensing in the US - minus 20 is just the middle of that range that’s all - a few degrees either side won’t make any difference
Incorrect. If they say - 20 then why would they allow a higher tolerance.
It is not guaranteed to be less than - 18.
Even the fridge containers I drive are at - 18. They can go lower of course. If the vaccine had a tolerance, why not publish it?
You mean publish it on an official site like this say
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/moderna/index.html
Perhaps me but I used the link but nowhere temperature allowance on there "
It says between -25 and -15. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
Most domestic chest freezers can operate at -25.
I think if they can store vax's down to -70 then they won't have too much trouble freezing down to -20.
I would go with trusting them to know what they are doing in the main.  |
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By *ookMan
over a year ago
london |
Vaccination... mmmvacination .... vaccination it’s what we need... if you wanna be the best if you wanna beat this pest... vacin nation is what we need........
Apologies to Roy castle ( record breakers) |
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Great news. If we were still a part of the EU, ee may have had supplies even quicker.
There's still debate on the supply availability for all of them, to enable us to reach high volumes of vaccination in sufficient time for us to relax lockdown measures by spring. 2 million per week isn't achieved yet and we may be able to increase that capacity. |
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By *luns1 OP Man
over a year ago
Preston |
Have you noticed as soon as they mention 2 million doses it is always followed up with the caveat that it is supply which will stop them hitting 2 million doses a week, almost as if they know that the figure quoted is unachievable. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Great news. If we were still a part of the EU, ee may have had supplies even quicker.
There's still debate on the supply availability for all of them, to enable us to reach high volumes of vaccination in sufficient time for us to relax lockdown measures by spring. 2 million per week isn't achieved yet and we may be able to increase that capacity. "
If we were part of the eu maybe we wouldnt be ahead of most of the world per 100,000 people vaccinated.  |
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