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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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West Midlands mayor accuses politicians of 'misleading the public' - and says region is not running out of vaccines
An issue that's been attracting curiosity today is the issue of vaccine delivery.
It started when the GP surgery Health Secretary Matt Hancock visited this morning to mark the launch of the Oxford/ AstraZeneca jab rollout revealed it had not received any of the vials yet.
Since then, Birmingham City Council's leader released a letter co-signed by Labour and Conservative MPs from the city warning they too had not gotten any and their supplies of the Pfizer vaccine were due to run out tomorrow.
That seems to have sparked some panic.
Sky News can now confirm the GP practice visited by Mr Hancock has had its AstraZeneca vaccine delivery - as of 4pm.
The government is denying any national supply issues.
And West Midlands Mayor Andy Street has posted a thread on Twitter saying he's "deeply disappointing to see elected politicians misleading the public over the vaccine situation in Birmingham today, at a time when we should all be pulling together to get through this crisis".
His explanation of "the truth" is below.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-live-news-latest-uk-updates-government-accused-of-over-promising-on-vaccines-ahead-of-commons-lockdown-debate-12178867 |
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"West Midlands mayor accuses politicians of 'misleading the public' - and says region is not running out of vaccines
An issue that's been attracting curiosity today is the issue of vaccine delivery.
It started when the GP surgery Health Secretary Matt Hancock visited this morning to mark the launch of the Oxford/ AstraZeneca jab rollout revealed it had not received any of the vials yet.
Since then, Birmingham City Council's leader released a letter co-signed by Labour and Conservative MPs from the city warning they too had not gotten any and their supplies of the Pfizer vaccine were due to run out tomorrow.
That seems to have sparked some panic.
Sky News can now confirm the GP practice visited by Mr Hancock has had its AstraZeneca vaccine delivery - as of 4pm.
The government is denying any national supply issues.
And West Midlands Mayor Andy Street has posted a thread on Twitter saying he's "deeply disappointing to see elected politicians misleading the public over the vaccine situation in Birmingham today, at a time when we should all be pulling together to get through this crisis".
His explanation of "the truth" is below.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-live-news-latest-uk-updates-government-accused-of-over-promising-on-vaccines-ahead-of-commons-lockdown-debate-12178867"
So who to believe ? |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"We will undoubtedly have supply issues. It's not realistic to think we won't. So people wait an extra day or two. It's not the worst. A little more tolerance is needed. "
True. The whole world are having problems getting this done. Patience is what we all need. Until then, stay the fluck Home if you don't need to be out !! |
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"We will undoubtedly have supply issues. It's not realistic to think we won't. So people wait an extra day or two. It's not the worst. A little more tolerance is needed.
True. The whole world are having problems getting this done. Patience is what we all need. Until then, stay the fluck Home if you don't need to be out !!"
And yet.... We aren't. Yet again. Roads are busier than ever. Lockdown.... My arse. |
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"We will undoubtedly have supply issues. It's not realistic to think we won't. So people wait an extra day or two. It's not the worst. A little more tolerance is needed.
True. The whole world are having problems getting this done. Patience is what we all need. Until then, stay the fluck Home if you don't need to be out !!
And yet.... We aren't. Yet again. Roads are busier than ever. Lockdown.... My arse. "
Loads of places of work are still open...roads are quieter here though tbf |
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"Just before the boris show tonight they said it was because of quality checks delays, so they are taking on a staff drive for scientists to speed up the process"
This ^
It’s not just a matter of running it off the factory line and sent straight out, each batch needs to be quality check.
I found this an interesting read on the process and some of the issues they are facing.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-55488724 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are no shortages of vaccines. Enough are being held across the west midlands and Warwickshire to administer to everyone. And as children will not be given the vaccine that will mean plenty left over. |
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"There are no shortages of vaccines. Enough are being held across the west midlands and Warwickshire to administer to everyone. And as children will not be given the vaccine that will mean plenty left over."
Well some people certainly disagree |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out. |
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Said it before and I'll say it again.
If this has taught us anything,its who the really important people are in our society..and it's not the likes of the 'wealth creators'buying stocks and shares. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out."
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are no shortages of vaccines. Enough are being held across the west midlands and Warwickshire to administer to everyone. And as children will not be given the vaccine that will mean plenty left over.
Well some people certainly disagree "
I have no problem in saying there is no shortage of vaccines. I have been administering them. The only set back is the government extending the resting period between administration from 4 weeks to 12. Also the dictating of brackets on who is eligible to recieve the vaccine.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I should have added, as the NHS guy said - the media unfortunately report on and highlight the 2 cases where issues have occurred, but not the 98 cases that have had no issues. This in my opinion is one of the biggest problems and has been throughout this pandemic. None of the media in general (particularly the BBC) have covered themselves in any degree of glory throughout this. |
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"There are no shortages of vaccines. Enough are being held across the west midlands and Warwickshire to administer to everyone. And as children will not be given the vaccine that will mean plenty left over.
Well some people certainly disagree
I have no problem in saying there is no shortage of vaccines. I have been administering them. The only set back is the government extending the resting period between administration from 4 weeks to 12. Also the dictating of brackets on who is eligible to recieve the vaccine.
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Hopefully they can get them rolled out properly next week |
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"There are no shortages of vaccines. Enough are being held across the west midlands and Warwickshire to administer to everyone. And as children will not be given the vaccine that will mean plenty left over."
Why would the West Midlands and Warwickshire stockpile more vaccine than they need ? |
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"I should have added, as the NHS guy said - the media unfortunately report on and highlight the 2 cases where issues have occurred, but not the 98 cases that have had no issues. This in my opinion is one of the biggest problems and has been throughout this pandemic. None of the media in general (particularly the BBC) have covered themselves in any degree of glory throughout this."
There have been plenty of problems
The bbc is nowhere near the top of people taking responsibility
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"There are no shortages of vaccines. Enough are being held across the west midlands and Warwickshire to administer to everyone. And as children will not be given the vaccine that will mean plenty left over.
Why would the West Midlands and Warwickshire stockpile more vaccine than they need ?"
The Government arranged for sharing of spare stock between authorities about 3 months ago as part of the build up. Authorities have to notify if this is the case.
Oddly enough in the past NHS authorities weren't able to share stock of spare flu vax's. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I should have added, as the NHS guy said - the media unfortunately report on and highlight the 2 cases where issues have occurred, but not the 98 cases that have had no issues. This in my opinion is one of the biggest problems and has been throughout this pandemic. None of the media in general (particularly the BBC) have covered themselves in any degree of glory throughout this."
Agreed. Which is why I added the post above. Where is the news is good news.
And isn't that just the sickness of the media in this country. Always talking everything to its lowest, always the race to the bottom. |
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By *extasy19Couple
over a year ago
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"Said it before and I'll say it again.
If this has taught us anything,its who the really important people are in our society..and it's not the likes of the 'wealth creators'buying stocks and shares."
You mean the wealth creators who invest in the likes of AstraZeneca and Janssen/Johnson & Johnson who in turn are delivering the vaccine at cost? Or are invested in retail and hospitality which are on their arses? |
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"Said it before and I'll say it again.
If this has taught us anything,its who the really important people are in our society..and it's not the likes of the 'wealth creators'buying stocks and shares.
You mean the wealth creators who invest in the likes of AstraZeneca and Janssen/Johnson & Johnson who in turn are delivering the vaccine at cost? Or are invested in retail and hospitality which are on their arses?"
Yep
For me it's the people who are saving lives on a daily basis and keeping society going ,which are the real heroes. |
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"Said it before and I'll say it again.
If this has taught us anything,its who the really important people are in our society..and it's not the likes of the 'wealth creators'buying stocks and shares.
You mean the wealth creators who invest in the likes of AstraZeneca and Janssen/Johnson & Johnson who in turn are delivering the vaccine at cost? Or are invested in retail and hospitality which are on their arses?
Yep
For me it's the people who are saving lives on a daily basis and keeping society going ,which are the real heroes."
Here's a novel thought. It could just be... That in certain symbiotic situations... Both "types" can work together for a great outcome? Just like ebony and ivory in perfect harmony side by side on a piano keyboard. |
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"Said it before and I'll say it again.
If this has taught us anything,its who the really important people are in our society..and it's not the likes of the 'wealth creators'buying stocks and shares.
You mean the wealth creators who invest in the likes of AstraZeneca and Janssen/Johnson & Johnson who in turn are delivering the vaccine at cost? Or are invested in retail and hospitality which are on their arses?
Yep
For me it's the people who are saving lives on a daily basis and keeping society going ,which are the real heroes.
Here's a novel thought. It could just be... That in certain symbiotic situations... Both "types" can work together for a great outcome? Just like ebony and ivory in perfect harmony side by side on a piano keyboard. "
Sounds like a song..I agree but only 1 group tend to get to have to deal with 6 year pay freezes |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us."
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined."
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done."
How about stop hating everything about the government and almost everything about the country.
What would you have said if we had taken a month longer to approve the vaccines than europe, you would have had a field day. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
How about stop hating everything about the government and almost everything about the country.
What would you have said if we had taken a month longer to approve the vaccines than europe, you would have had a field day."
Actually I wouldnt but carry on.
Why didnt he mention isreal? |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done."
So have other countries vaccinated more than us or not? Why not just for once say well done. We've made a deny, a long way to go. But Its good progress. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done."
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
So have other countries vaccinated more than us or not? Why not just for once say well done. We've made a deny, a long way to go. But Its good progress. "
Have a look at my posts on the NHS |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
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How about stop hating everything about the government and almost everything about the country.
What would you have said if we had taken a month longer to approve the vaccines than europe, you would have had a field day.
Actually I wouldnt but carry on.
Why didnt he mention isreal?"
Bet you didnt post that with a straight face. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
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If people would read what I actually said.
I wasnt criticising what has been done so far..by why start boasting about we are the best in Europe?
What does that achieve exactly? |
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How about stop hating everything about the government and almost everything about the country.
What would you have said if we had taken a month longer to approve the vaccines than europe, you would have had a field day.
Actually I wouldnt but carry on.
Why didnt he mention isreal?
Bet you didnt post that with a straight face."
Why? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done."
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
If people would read what I actually said.
I wasnt criticising what has been done so far..by why start boasting about we are the best in Europe?
What does that achieve exactly?"
Because so far the programme even with its hiccups is a job well done. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
If people would read what I actually said.
I wasnt criticising what has been done so far..by why start boasting about we are the best in Europe?
What does that achieve exactly?
Because so far the programme even with its hiccups is a job well done. "
You haven't answered my question.
Why say we are the best in Europe?
We did that with the death figures and what happened with that? |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply. "
They have vaccinated 12 million people. |
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"Because all you do is whinge about how much crapper we are than anyone else"
So you camt answer a simple question.
Go and see my posts about the nhs.
I've said countless times They are one of the finest things about this country and are to be treasured. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Israel have amazing mobilisation infrastructure. Plus a very military embedded population. "
And a country thats the twelth the size of ours.
They have done extraordinarily well, the envy of the world. |
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"Israel have amazing mobilisation infrastructure. Plus a very military embedded population. "
And Europe got theirs weeks after ours.
I'm not decrying what's been done.. I think the crowing is disenguoius(sp)
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply. "
Now you mention Israel...a country not known for "taking any shit"... I wonder how they deal with those unbelievers and not wishing to put "the poison" in their body. |
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"Israel have amazing mobilisation infrastructure. Plus a very military embedded population.
And a country thats the twelth the size of ours.
They have done extraordinarily well, the envy of the world. "
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
If people would read what I actually said.
I wasnt criticising what has been done so far..by why start boasting about we are the best in Europe?
What does that achieve exactly?
Because so far the programme even with its hiccups is a job well done.
You haven't answered my question.
Why say we are the best in Europe?
We did that with the death figures and what happened with that?"
I must have missed anyone saying we are the best in Europe. I heard the comment "more than all European countries together"... I also haven't heard (thankfully) the "it's world leading" for quite a while... But then I tend not to listen to the speeches. |
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"Israel have amazing mobilisation infrastructure. Plus a very military embedded population.
And a country thats the twelth the size of ours.
They have done extraordinarily well, the envy of the world. "
Fairly sure there are a few countries in Europe smaller than us. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Why not for once find a good news story in all of this. We all need lifting up not pulling down.
You can have a good news story without comparing yourself to others."
When you show we are failing I'm showing you that it could be worse. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
If people would read what I actually said.
I wasnt criticising what has been done so far..by why start boasting about we are the best in Europe?
What does that achieve exactly?
Because so far the programme even with its hiccups is a job well done.
You haven't answered my question.
Why say we are the best in Europe?
We did that with the death figures and what happened with that?
I must have missed anyone saying we are the best in Europe. I heard the comment "more than all European countries together"... I also haven't heard (thankfully) the "it's world leading" for quite a while... But then I tend not to listen to the speeches. "
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"Why not for once find a good news story in all of this. We all need lifting up not pulling down.
You can have a good news story without comparing yourself to others.
When you show we are failing I'm showing you that it could be worse. "
I didnt say we were failing.
Not once. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Israel have amazing mobilisation infrastructure. Plus a very military embedded population.
And a country thats the twelth the size of ours.
They have done extraordinarily well, the envy of the world.
Fairly sure there are a few countries in Europe smaller than us."
Yes, Ireland thats managed 4000 jabs. The Netherlands that did their first one yesterday!
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Why not for once find a good news story in all of this. We all need lifting up not pulling down.
You can have a good news story without comparing yourself to others.
When you show we are failing I'm showing you that it could be worse.
I didnt say we were failing.
Not once."
Good. You must believe that we are succeeding then.  |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply.
They have vaccinated 12 million people."
Where do you get those figures from? From what I can see, the figures were about 1.5 million on Tuesday. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Why not for once find a good news story in all of this. We all need lifting up not pulling down.
You can have a good news story without comparing yourself to others."
Yet you compered others to us and said they had done better. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us."
Yes. You did compare. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply.
They have vaccinated 12 million people.
Where do you get those figures from? From what I can see, the figures were about 1.5 million on Tuesday."
Some Israelie journalist on radio 4 the other day
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply.
They have vaccinated 12 million people.
Where do you get those figures from? From what I can see, the figures were about 1.5 million on Tuesday."
Israel only has a population of around 9 million.
They had done over 12% last weekend. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply.
They have vaccinated 12 million people.
Where do you get those figures from? From what I can see, the figures were about 1.5 million on Tuesday.
Some Israelie journalist on radio 4 the other day
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The population of Israel is only 9 million. |
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"Why not for once find a good news story in all of this. We all need lifting up not pulling down.
You can have a good news story without comparing yourself to others.
Yet you compered others to us and said they had done better."
What I actually said was it's not a great idea to compare yourself with other countries, if you are selective over who you choose.
He couldnt say the world as he knows that wasnt true,though that would be a 1st,so he said Europe. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply.
They have vaccinated 12 million people.
Where do you get those figures from? From what I can see, the figures were about 1.5 million on Tuesday.
Some Israelie journalist on radio 4 the other day
The population of Israel is only 9 million. "
Maybe I misread and it was 12%
Either way they are leading the world. |
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Just seen that in March vaccines will be appearing on the open market in India. More countries to follow.
Double edged sword taking them away from the free market but will increase take up. As nothing like a bit of capitalism to get stuff out there quickly. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Just seen that in March vaccines will be appearing on the open market in India. More countries to follow.
Double edged sword taking them away from the free market but will increase take up. As nothing like a bit of capitalism to get stuff out there quickly. "
The problem would be if there is vaccine in it at all. |
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"Just seen that in March vaccines will be appearing on the open market in India. More countries to follow.
Double edged sword taking them away from the free market but will increase take up. As nothing like a bit of capitalism to get stuff out there quickly.
The problem would be if there is vaccine in it at all. "
Undoubtably you would get snake oil salesman making a lot of money out of it. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
If people would read what I actually said.
I wasnt criticising what has been done so far..by why start boasting about we are the best in Europe?
What does that achieve exactly?
Because so far the programme even with its hiccups is a job well done.
You haven't answered my question.
Why say we are the best in Europe?
We did that with the death figures and what happened with that?"
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
If people would read what I actually said.
I wasnt criticising what has been done so far..by why start boasting about we are the best in Europe?
What does that achieve exactly?
Because so far the programme even with its hiccups is a job well done.
You haven't answered my question.
Why say we are the best in Europe?
We did that with the death figures and what happened with that?
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Moan, whine, whinge."
Another invaluable contribution
Cheers
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
We are 3rd highest on the table for vaccinations done.
And 1st highest in Europe.
Including the fact that there have been vaccine shortages at the beginning and the fact that so far we have only had 1.5 million doses available to us. We have vaccinated 1.2 million and of the total amount we have 590 thousand only became available yesterday.
Gezus give them a chance.
If people would read what I actually said.
I wasnt criticising what has been done so far..by why start boasting about we are the best in Europe?
What does that achieve exactly?
Because so far the programme even with its hiccups is a job well done.
You haven't answered my question.
Why say we are the best in Europe?
We did that with the death figures and what happened with that?
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Moan, whine, whinge.
Another invaluable contribution
Cheers
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Classic response, as per.
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply.
They have vaccinated 12 million people.
Where do you get those figures from? From what I can see, the figures were about 1.5 million on Tuesday.
Some Israelie journalist on radio 4 the other day
The population of Israel is only 9 million.
Maybe I misread and it was 12%
Either way they are leading the world."
Except you said it was an Israeli journo on radio 4.
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply.
They have vaccinated 12 million people.
Where do you get those figures from? From what I can see, the figures were about 1.5 million on Tuesday.
Some Israelie journalist on radio 4 the other day
The population of Israel is only 9 million.
Maybe I misread and it was 12%
Either way they are leading the world.
Except you said it was an Israeli journo on radio 4.
Not a good day is it, you're in a hole stop digging."
Ok maybe I misheard it..dufference is..if I make a mistake I admit it.
But the point stands. |
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"As above, plus this is day 1 of the largest vaccination program this country has ever embarked on. There are going to be teething issues undoubtedly, there always are with any new process. It's time to cut them a little slack and show some patience, it's will become slicker as the issues are ironed out.
Agreed.
Though probs not a great idea to start crowing about being world beating though..especially as other counties have vaccinated much more than us.
Israel and Bahrain are the only two countries who have vaccinated a higher percentage than us. As of a couple of days ago which is the last numbers I have seen we have done more than the whole of europe combined.
Considering they approved it weeks after us it's not really a surprise?
Here is a thought.. instead of crowing about how great we are,just get it done.
Israel started 11 days after us. Their population is around one eighth of ours.
They also have had issues with vaccine supply.
They have vaccinated 12 million people.
Where do you get those figures from? From what I can see, the figures were about 1.5 million on Tuesday.
Some Israelie journalist on radio 4 the other day
The population of Israel is only 9 million.
Maybe I misread and it was 12%
Either way they are leading the world."
Come on mate give it a rest. 12 % of 9m isn't more than 1.25million is it? . Do some maths home schooling buddy! |
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