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"The first one solved nothing so what’s this one going to solve " Your life potentially! | |||
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"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() Yes I agree but I haven't heard about the Nightingale hospitals for a while, not sure what happened there | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() I thought I heard on the radio the other day that the London one was being called upon again? | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() I thought they had been dismantled. There was no-one to staff them. | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() That's a very good point. Surely they can be reactivated if needed? | |||
"It would be a lot more effective if people followed the guidance. Too many people try to find loopholes to suit their own agenda. Lou x " A vast majority do.is there a percentage that is allowed not to follow the guidelines? I work for a company that rigorously enforces the baloney. One person is exempt.hes morbidly obese and asthmatic.the only person out of 200 who's severely at risk but doesnt have to wear a mask. Cool eh.... | |||
"It would be a lot more effective if people followed the guidance. Too many people try to find loopholes to suit their own agenda. Lou x " So true. If people didn't mix then it wouldn't spread. X | |||
"The first one solved nothing so what’s this one going to solve " Nothing at all, back to square one ! This will easily go in to March, now you will see things get a lot more tougher for people. | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() You'd hope so, wouldn't put anything past this shower though | |||
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"Nightingales weren't dismantled. They were left on standby. Judging by the traffic, it is not just a few non conformists." Get the army in Go hardcore on these tossas ![]() | |||
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"Fuck it Get the army on the streets Enforce the rules They can cry about police state all they want What's important is saving people's lives ![]() I agree, people have no idea how lucky they really are and if this was Spain we would not be allowed out to exercise.. It's a small price to pay to have a future for our kids and grandkids people need to stop being so selfish, thinking the world revolves around them. We have developed into a nation of sniveling, self absorbed, individuals with no resilience to life's knocks, everyone needs to suck it up and start looking how to help the situation not fight against it.. | |||
"Nightingales weren't dismantled. They were left on standby. Judging by the traffic, it is not just a few non conformists. Get the army in Go hardcore on these tossas ![]() In the most jokey light-hearted way possible, you're making a crisis sound like a porno plot ![]() | |||
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"Nightingales weren't dismantled. They were left on standby. Judging by the traffic, it is not just a few non conformists. Get the army in Go hardcore on these tossas ![]() After this long not being able to meet you wanna have army men patrolling the streets to add to my agony lol | |||
"Nightingales weren't dismantled. They were left on standby. Judging by the traffic, it is not just a few non conformists. Get the army in Go hardcore on these tossas ![]() ![]() New wanking material as they drive past shouting "cooey" out the window ![]() | |||
"Nightingales weren't dismantled. They were left on standby. Judging by the traffic, it is not just a few non conformists. Get the army in Go hardcore on these tossas ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() They haven't got enough staff at the moment. | |||
"Think of a prison with restrictions. Think of a prison on lockdown. This country hasn't had any lockdowns. Just difference in severity of restrictions. A lockdown(I.e noone leaving home for ANY excuse and with food,meds etc. brought to the home may work). These restrictions dont. And never will. Blaming a handful of mask less people at a rave whilst the vast majority conforms only highlights that. " Well said! This word 'lockdown' has been used incorrectly since day one. We haven't had a lockdown, just restrictions. A lockdown would mean we wouldn't be allowed out for ANYTHING similar to what they had in France. Too much of this 'everyone elses fault but mine' attitude by the Great British public or the moronic conspiracy theorists who think the worlds leader have all got together to plan the whole thing! Rant over lol ![]() | |||
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"Nightingales weren't dismantled. They were left on standby. Judging by the traffic, it is not just a few non conformists. Get the army in Go hardcore on these tossas ![]() Lol, and very fit ones at that ![]() | |||
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"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() They don't have the staff...even though they put a call out to retired professionals | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
"Yet the borders will remain open to tourist traffic Illegal immigrants will be sailed in by the boat load Nurseries remain open but schools closed Mixed messages a plenty yet again from a totally incompetent government " Then do the right thing yourself. You don't have to rely on their messaging. Internationally it's clear that masking, distancing, and ventilation make a big difference. So do so. It's what I'm doing. | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() They havent called them here yet, k is on the list and not required, yet. | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() Apparently the nightingale hospital is on standby. And as for the retired staff who are called upon. They have to provide a numerous amount of references before they can be considered to come back and help. Very frustrating when a retired gp with many years of experience fails to provide many due to retirement what a joke | |||
"Well ive just driven to work as ive not heard anything to say that I shouldn't go in....I hate this limbo as my job isn't essential yet there will be repercussions if I don't go. One nice thing to notice already and I hope its not isolated to today is that the roads were 50% clearer than on any other day so let's hope the announcement will have people take heed this time. P.s. given a choice I would be staying at home and im hoping we get sent home." Trying to book an online shopping delivery was a mission already so I think people are already making provisions | |||
"Yet the borders will remain open to tourist traffic Illegal immigrants will be sailed in by the boat load Nurseries remain open but schools closed Mixed messages a plenty yet again from a totally incompetent government Then do the right thing yourself. You don't have to rely on their messaging. Internationally it's clear that masking, distancing, and ventilation make a big difference. So do so. It's what I'm doing." You’re forgetting that people can’t think for themselves They have to be told that they cannot do this or that Not think that they may be able , or that it doesn’t apply to them | |||
"Well ive just driven to work as ive not heard anything to say that I shouldn't go in....I hate this limbo as my job isn't essential yet there will be repercussions if I don't go. One nice thing to notice already and I hope its not isolated to today is that the roads were 50% clearer than on any other day so let's hope the announcement will have people take heed this time. P.s. given a choice I would be staying at home and im hoping we get sent home. Trying to book an online shopping delivery was a mission already so I think people are already making provisions " We booked one today. Next date was 17th January. Looks like I'm back to doing the Aldi run for my wheelchair basketball mate, as he doesn't have the freezer space or kitchen space to store much so needs a weekly shop. | |||
"Fuck it Get the army on the streets Enforce the rules They can cry about police state all they want What's important is saving people's lives ![]() Spot on...when did this country turn into a country full of snowflakes? God help us if we had to fight a war like my grandparents did! | |||
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"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!!" ![]() | |||
"If only the Tories hadn't been fucking the nhs for years on end." change that to everyone that gets into power | |||
"If only the Tories hadn't been fucking the nhs for years on end. change that to everyone that gets into power " Really improved under Labour didn’t it When do Tony Bliars PFI end by the way ? | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!!" Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Exactly, we’ll said " | |||
"Fuck it Get the army on the streets Enforce the rules They can cry about police state all they want What's important is saving people's lives ![]() They'd be too busy snivelling about snowflakes ![]() | |||
"Well ive just driven to work as ive not heard anything to say that I shouldn't go in....I hate this limbo as my job isn't essential yet there will be repercussions if I don't go. One nice thing to notice already and I hope its not isolated to today is that the roads were 50% clearer than on any other day so let's hope the announcement will have people take heed this time. P.s. given a choice I would be staying at home and im hoping we get sent home. Trying to book an online shopping delivery was a mission already so I think people are already making provisions " I've a litte Sainsburys a short walk away for the basics and they ran it well last time so hopefully they will do the same again. Id rather not take a delivery slot from those who need it and if people aren't idiots again, nothing should run out this time around. | |||
"Well ive just driven to work as ive not heard anything to say that I shouldn't go in....I hate this limbo as my job isn't essential yet there will be repercussions if I don't go. One nice thing to notice already and I hope its not isolated to today is that the roads were 50% clearer than on any other day so let's hope the announcement will have people take heed this time. P.s. given a choice I would be staying at home and im hoping we get sent home. Trying to book an online shopping delivery was a mission already so I think people are already making provisions I've a litte Sainsburys a short walk away for the basics and they ran it well last time so hopefully they will do the same again. Id rather not take a delivery slot from those who need it and if people aren't idiots again, nothing should run out this time around." Unfortunately we know that people will be idiots again | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() They closed due to not enough staff to run them, sadly there isn't enough to staff them now either. | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. " Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked | |||
"Lives hopefully. Have a great day " Spot on!! Hubby a self employed tattooist he couldn’t give a crap about play or earnings just people being safe!! We miss it like mad of course we do. But this time at least we have a vaccine that will hope turn things. As long as our children family and friends are safe that’s the most important thing over sexual activities | |||
"Yet the borders will remain open to tourist traffic Illegal immigrants will be sailed in by the boat load Nurseries remain open but schools closed Mixed messages a plenty yet again from a totally incompetent government " Illegal immigrants will come regardless of a border being open or not. | |||
"Well ive just driven to work as ive not heard anything to say that I shouldn't go in....I hate this limbo as my job isn't essential yet there will be repercussions if I don't go. One nice thing to notice already and I hope its not isolated to today is that the roads were 50% clearer than on any other day so let's hope the announcement will have people take heed this time. P.s. given a choice I would be staying at home and im hoping we get sent home. Trying to book an online shopping delivery was a mission already so I think people are already making provisions I've a litte Sainsburys a short walk away for the basics and they ran it well last time so hopefully they will do the same again. Id rather not take a delivery slot from those who need it and if people aren't idiots again, nothing should run out this time around." i like your way of thinking | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked" No it didn't.. Fiddling the figures and hiding the true number of fatalities did. | |||
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"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked" How do you know this ? Just curious. | |||
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"Christ, stop moaning people and just accept it, follow the rules, keep yourself and others safe and hopefully we won't NEED another lockdown for you to moan about." This. All day long. | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious." They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us " Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. | |||
"It will stop the NHS being overwhelmed with Covid patients. It will help stop doctors deciding who lives and who dies due to a lack of ventilation beds. It will allow ambulances to tend to heart attack victims and the like. Hope that clears it up for you ![]() It an empty hospital im sure due to lack of staff they can't use it and so many beds there too but no one their maybe one day they will use it seams a bit waste not too really big too | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense." If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? " I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it " Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? | |||
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"I just don't want people to die. I think that's reasonable. we're all in this together. We'll get through this." And this sums it all up. ![]() | |||
"I just don't want people to die. I think that's reasonable. we're all in this together. We'll get through this. And this sums it all up. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I just don't want people to die. I think that's reasonable. we're all in this together. We'll get through this." We will get through this Eventually We are though, finding out that life isn’t fair on any of us | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? " Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. | |||
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"The pointlessness of my life, watching the end of the world from an arm chair and why wait till the end " Take up knitting. Or crochet. Or Chinese chequers. Plenty to keep ourselves amused ![]() | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California." I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it | |||
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"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it " You are right 2 different ways. We use mitigation UK using lockdowns. | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it You are right 2 different ways. We use mitigation UK using lockdowns." Please tell me how you can mitigate with a virus ? | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it You are right 2 different ways. We use mitigation UK using lockdowns. Please tell me how you can mitigate with a virus ? " Our state did it without stay at home orders. After watching and reading about UK covid mitigation it's not being too effective is it ? Grant it we view it as another danger to daily life. Hence the higher case counts in the states. Cali has similar lockdowns to yours and it's not that effective. | |||
" Just declare Marshall Law ..." ...or perhaps have a 'martial' plan? | |||
" Just declare Marshall Law ... ...or perhaps have a 'martial' plan?" No no, we can't do that again! | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it You are right 2 different ways. We use mitigation UK using lockdowns. Please tell me how you can mitigate with a virus ? Our state did it without stay at home orders. After watching and reading about UK covid mitigation it's not being too effective is it ? Grant it we view it as another danger to daily life. Hence the higher case counts in the states. Cali has similar lockdowns to yours and it's not that effective." So you mitigated with the virus ? | |||
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"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it You are right 2 different ways. We use mitigation UK using lockdowns. Please tell me how you can mitigate with a virus ? Our state did it without stay at home orders. After watching and reading about UK covid mitigation it's not being too effective is it ? Grant it we view it as another danger to daily life. Hence the higher case counts in the states. Cali has similar lockdowns to yours and it's not that effective. So you mitigated with the virus ? " The State of Pennsylvania government website has the following statement on it, so you can decide for yourself it the mitigating measures have resolved the issue in that state: "The numbers: We are in the midst of a spike in positive cases. There are 665,097 positive COVID-19 cases in Pennsylvania. Explore in-depth Pennsylvania data here." | |||
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"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it You are right 2 different ways. We use mitigation UK using lockdowns. Please tell me how you can mitigate with a virus ? Our state did it without stay at home orders. After watching and reading about UK covid mitigation it's not being too effective is it ? Grant it we view it as another danger to daily life. Hence the higher case counts in the states. Cali has similar lockdowns to yours and it's not that effective. So you mitigated with the virus ? The State of Pennsylvania government website has the following statement on it, so you can decide for yourself it the mitigating measures have resolved the issue in that state: "The numbers: We are in the midst of a spike in positive cases. There are 665,097 positive COVID-19 cases in Pennsylvania. Explore in-depth Pennsylvania data here."" https://www.mcall.com/coronavirus/mc-nws-coronavirus-whats-reopening-in-pennsylvania-restrictions-lifted-20210104-ggk2vnpk3rf7hmrnwosc7xovme-story.html | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it You are right 2 different ways. We use mitigation UK using lockdowns. Please tell me how you can mitigate with a virus ? Our state did it without stay at home orders. After watching and reading about UK covid mitigation it's not being too effective is it ? Grant it we view it as another danger to daily life. Hence the higher case counts in the states. Cali has similar lockdowns to yours and it's not that effective. So you mitigated with the virus ? The State of Pennsylvania government website has the following statement on it, so you can decide for yourself it the mitigating measures have resolved the issue in that state: "The numbers: We are in the midst of a spike in positive cases. There are 665,097 positive COVID-19 cases in Pennsylvania. Explore in-depth Pennsylvania data here." https://www.mcall.com/coronavirus/mc-nws-coronavirus-whats-reopening-in-pennsylvania-restrictions-lifted-20210104-ggk2vnpk3rf7hmrnwosc7xovme-story.html" 0 stay at home orders. | |||
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"If only the Tories hadn't been fucking the nhs for years on end. change that to everyone that gets into power " Could always live in the states hospital treatment pronto just need a second mortgage for it | |||
"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked How do you know this ? Just curious. They’ve been reading social media again lol You know , the ones that say every country has done a great job , apart from us Yup the same country where a billionaire is missing because he wants a better economy for future generations. Uk should totally do the China model of lockdowns. Makes perfect sense. If you want the China model of lockdown, then embrace the Chinese way of life after Is that what you want ? I don't live there but it seems like it. Like I stated I couldn't do it Then why say we should do it if you couldn’t ? Consensus on the forums almost every thread is for complete lockdown. Just declare Marshall Law and be the Democracy side of the virus experiment. Let's see if total absolute lockdown works. Because it's not working in California. I’m actually going to behave and not reply like I want to Two different countries, different methods of dealing with it You are right 2 different ways. We use mitigation UK using lockdowns. Please tell me how you can mitigate with a virus ? Our state did it without stay at home orders. After watching and reading about UK covid mitigation it's not being too effective is it ? Grant it we view it as another danger to daily life. Hence the higher case counts in the states. Cali has similar lockdowns to yours and it's not that effective. So you mitigated with the virus ? The State of Pennsylvania government website has the following statement on it, so you can decide for yourself it the mitigating measures have resolved the issue in that state: "The numbers: We are in the midst of a spike in positive cases. There are 665,097 positive COVID-19 cases in Pennsylvania. Explore in-depth Pennsylvania data here." https://www.mcall.com/coronavirus/mc-nws-coronavirus-whats-reopening-in-pennsylvania-restrictions-lifted-20210104-ggk2vnpk3rf7hmrnwosc7xovme-story.html 0 stay at home orders." Another one that thinks comparing two totally different countries works ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
"The first one solved nothing so what’s this one going to solve " Not about solving anything, its about controlling infections because the cuntservatives have spent the past decade running the nhs into the ground, which struggles with seasonal flu's. | |||
"The link provided gives the following message to me: Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism." Well anyways no lockdown it was deemed unconstitutional. This is why the states has higher case counts. We mitigated as best as we can until a time the counts went down with minimal effect on the states economy. So how is it that the UK suffering through constant lockdowns should be the gleeming hope of how the virus should be contained. | |||
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"My very brief research into Covid in Pennsylvania says that there are still quite a number of restrictions still in place, somewhere between tiers 2 and 3 of the UK system, perhaps? I found the following article which was available to view in Europe: "After weeks of record high coronavirus case numbers, the pandemic in Pennsylvania is finally starting to ebb — but the commonwealth isn’t out of the woods yet. Currently, there are 5,529 people hospitalized in Pennsylvania with COVID-19, nearly double the peak last spring. The statewide percent positivity rate for COVID-19 tests is 15%. But both of those numbers are now trending down, Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine announced Monday. “Our hospitals and health care systems continue to be significantly challenged,” Levine said. “But they are maintaining excellent services and care.” The commonwealth is reporting 7,805 new COVID-19 cases over the weekend. However, Levine said the database system used to register cases underwent maintenance on Sunday, and that might have artificially lowered the case count. Officials expect case counts to be higher than normal on Tuesday as a result. The state is reporting 122 fatalities due to COVID-19 over the weekend. The reporting system for deaths was not affected by maintenance. On Monday, Philadelphia reported 1,576 new cases, including test results reported since Thursday. The city announced 37 new fatalities during that period as well. Despite the declining statewide numbers, Levine said she was concerned that cases may spike again as people start to get sick after traveling or gathering for the winter holidays. “What we need to do now is to continue all the mitigation efforts … stay at home, do not participate in large or small gatherings,” Levine said. “We will be watching our numbers really closely to see if there is a holiday bump or not.”" Trending down without stay at home orders which the state can't recommend anymore.the restrictions here were just indoor dining and gyms the whole time since the spikes. | |||
"My very brief research into Covid in Pennsylvania says that there are still quite a number of restrictions still in place, somewhere between tiers 2 and 3 of the UK system, perhaps? I found the following article which was available to view in Europe: "After weeks of record high coronavirus case numbers, the pandemic in Pennsylvania is finally starting to ebb — but the commonwealth isn’t out of the woods yet. Currently, there are 5,529 people hospitalized in Pennsylvania with COVID-19, nearly double the peak last spring. The statewide percent positivity rate for COVID-19 tests is 15%. But both of those numbers are now trending down, Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine announced Monday. “Our hospitals and health care systems continue to be significantly challenged,” Levine said. “But they are maintaining excellent services and care.” The commonwealth is reporting 7,805 new COVID-19 cases over the weekend. However, Levine said the database system used to register cases underwent maintenance on Sunday, and that might have artificially lowered the case count. Officials expect case counts to be higher than normal on Tuesday as a result. The state is reporting 122 fatalities due to COVID-19 over the weekend. The reporting system for deaths was not affected by maintenance. On Monday, Philadelphia reported 1,576 new cases, including test results reported since Thursday. The city announced 37 new fatalities during that period as well. Despite the declining statewide numbers, Levine said she was concerned that cases may spike again as people start to get sick after traveling or gathering for the winter holidays. “What we need to do now is to continue all the mitigation efforts … stay at home, do not participate in large or small gatherings,” Levine said. “We will be watching our numbers really closely to see if there is a holiday bump or not.” Trending down without stay at home orders which the state can't recommend anymore.the restrictions here were just indoor dining and gyms the whole time since the spikes. " Oh and virtual schooling. | |||
"The first one solved nothing so what’s this one going to solve Not about solving anything, its about controlling infections because the cuntservatives have spent the past decade running the nhs into the ground, which struggles with seasonal flu's." So please explain how if the NHS had 100’s of billions thrown at it over the years since Labour were in power , it could handle it any better Please don’t forget to include Bliars PFIs repayments in your explanation Where some areas are paying at least one fifth of their budget repaying them | |||
"My very brief research into Covid in Pennsylvania says that there are still quite a number of restrictions still in place, somewhere between tiers 2 and 3 of the UK system, perhaps? I found the following article which was available to view in Europe: "After weeks of record high coronavirus case numbers, the pandemic in Pennsylvania is finally starting to ebb — but the commonwealth isn’t out of the woods yet. Currently, there are 5,529 people hospitalized in Pennsylvania with COVID-19, nearly double the peak last spring. The statewide percent positivity rate for COVID-19 tests is 15%. But both of those numbers are now trending down, Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine announced Monday. “Our hospitals and health care systems continue to be significantly challenged,” Levine said. “But they are maintaining excellent services and care.” The commonwealth is reporting 7,805 new COVID-19 cases over the weekend. However, Levine said the database system used to register cases underwent maintenance on Sunday, and that might have artificially lowered the case count. Officials expect case counts to be higher than normal on Tuesday as a result. The state is reporting 122 fatalities due to COVID-19 over the weekend. The reporting system for deaths was not affected by maintenance. On Monday, Philadelphia reported 1,576 new cases, including test results reported since Thursday. The city announced 37 new fatalities during that period as well. Despite the declining statewide numbers, Levine said she was concerned that cases may spike again as people start to get sick after traveling or gathering for the winter holidays. “What we need to do now is to continue all the mitigation efforts … stay at home, do not participate in large or small gatherings,” Levine said. “We will be watching our numbers really closely to see if there is a holiday bump or not.” Trending down without stay at home orders which the state can't recommend anymore.the restrictions here were just indoor dining and gyms the whole time since the spikes. Oh and virtual schooling." So not all this lot then? Current restrictions The following mitigation measures remain in place in Pennsylvania: BUSINESS, WORK, SCHOOL, CHILD CARE, AND CONGREGATE SETTINGS Child care may open, complying with guidance Congregate care restrictions in place Prison and hospital restrictions determined by individual facilities Schools subject to CDC and commonwealth guidance Telework must continue unless impossible Businesses with in-person operations must follow updated business and building safety requirements Face coverings are required in businesses All in-person businesses may operate at 75% occupancy, except where noted Self-certified restaurants may open at 50% capacity for indoor dining On-premises alcohol consumption prohibited unless part of a meal; cocktails-to-go and carryout beverages are allowed Serving alcohol for on-site consumption must end at 11 p.m, and all alcoholic beverages must be removed from patrons by midnight Personal care services (including hair salons and barbershops) open at 50% occupancy and by appointment only Indoor recreation and health and wellness facilities (such as gyms and spas) open at 50% occupancy with appointments strongly encouraged; fitness facilities are directed to prioritize outdoor fitness activities All entertainment (such as casinos, theaters, and shopping malls) open at 50% occupancy Construction activity may return to full capacity with continued implementation of protocol SOCIAL RESTRICTIONS Gathering limits determined using maximum occupancy calculator Face coverings are required to be worn indoors and outdoors if you are away from your home Unnecessary travel should be limited Event Occupancy and Gatherings As Pennsylvania sees an increase in cases, the commonwealth is strengthening gathering restrictions. All large events and gatherings are now reduced until further notice. Use the maximum occupancy calculator to see the latest gathering limitations. Household gatherings are also advised against when attendees include non-household members. | |||
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"... Trending down without stay at home orders which the state can't recommend anymore.the restrictions here were just indoor dining and gyms the whole time since the spikes. Oh and virtual schooling." From mcall.com : "What’s reopening today in Pennsylvania as coronavirus restrictions are lifted By BETHANY AO PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER JAN 04, 2021 AT 5:33 AM" . 'However, Philadelphia officials have extended the ban on some activities until Jan. 15, saying they anticipate a spike in coronavirus cases from Christmas and New Year’s Day. All of the regulations are subject to change depending on case numbers, said city Health Commissioner Thomas Farley. Here are the details on which businesses will be reopening on Monday: Indoor dining won’t be allowed in Philadelphia just yet as city leaders have pushed back the expiration date of COVID-19 restrictions another two weeks. The end date for the ban on indoor dining is set to expire on Jan. 15, although that could be sooner, depending on case numbers for the next two weeks. Outside of Philadelphia, including the Lehigh Valley, indoor dining will be allowed at self-certified restaurants at 50% capacity, while restaurants that have not been self-certified are allowed to have indoor dining at 25% capacity. Customers can only drink alcoholic beverages at a bar or a restaurant if it is part of a meal, and restaurants have to stop serving alcohol by 11 p.m. Gyms, which closed for nearly a month in December as cases continued to increase in the city, will be reopening in Philadelphia and around the state on Monday under revised COVID-19 restrictions. They will be allowed to operate at 50% capacity, and the state government is encouraging appointments and an emphasis on outdoor activities. Any personal-care services, including hair salons and barbershops, must operate at 50% capacity, including in Philadelphia. Customers must make appointments, according to state regulations. Philly museums will be allowed to reopen on Jan. 4, but theaters and casinos have to wait until Jan. 15. Indoor gatherings will also continue to be banned until Jan. 15. Casinos, theaters, and museums outside of Philadelphia will be allowed to reopen at 50% occupancy starting Monday. Outdoor sports can also resume , according to both state and city regulations. In-person sports will continue to be banned until Jan. 15 in Philadelphia. High schools in Philadelphia can resume in-person teaching, but colleges will have to hold off until Jan. 15. Schools in the rest of the state are subject to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and commonwealth guidance or must offer only fully remote instruction.' | |||
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"If anything,it shows the nhs is not fit for purpose. It's been needed disbanding and replacing for years. A vast majority of its users dont pay into it. I'd save £2k a year which I could easily go private for me and my own. I'm not bothered about "saving lives" at the expense of wasting mine and I'm not bothered about "saving the nhs".its an out of control monster of an organisation." Why don't you bugger off to another country if you no longer want free at the point of use healthcare, save a spot for a more deserving person? | |||
"The first one solved nothing so what’s this one going to solve " You really do show your lack of a basic understanding here OP. Lockdown has never been or been branded as any kind of solution... it’s societies “treading water” whilst we wait for the boat to pick us up... is it really that difficult a concept to grasp? | |||
"If anything,it shows the nhs is not fit for purpose. It's been needed disbanding and replacing for years. A vast majority of its users dont pay into it. I'd save £2k a year which I could easily go private for me and my own. I'm not bothered about "saving lives" at the expense of wasting mine and I'm not bothered about "saving the nhs".its an out of control monster of an organisation." Seriously, when you read his profile, read his posts, review his posting history and length of time on this site... why are fab allowing a profile created purely to aggravate people in the forum exist? This profile has nothing to do with swinging | |||
"If anything,it shows the nhs is not fit for purpose. It's been needed disbanding and replacing for years. A vast majority of its users dont pay into it. I'd save £2k a year which I could easily go private for me and my own. I'm not bothered about "saving lives" at the expense of wasting mine and I'm not bothered about "saving the nhs".its an out of control monster of an organisation. Why don't you bugger off to another country if you no longer want free at the point of use healthcare, save a spot for a more deserving person?" Why would I want to do that? You're welcome to read my post again if it helps. | |||
"If anything,it shows the nhs is not fit for purpose. It's been needed disbanding and replacing for years. A vast majority of its users dont pay into it. I'd save £2k a year which I could easily go private for me and my own. And talking about covid is all about swinging isnt it. I'm not bothered about "saving lives" at the expense of wasting mine and I'm not bothered about "saving the nhs".its an out of control monster of an organisation. Seriously, when you read his profile, read his posts, review his posting history and length of time on this site... why are fab allowing a profile created purely to aggravate people in the forum exist? This profile has nothing to do with swinging " | |||
"If only the Tories hadn't been fucking the nhs for years on end." Oh bollocks! Play a new tune, that’s boring and untrue. NHS swims in cash problem is the middle management are experts at phishing it away | |||
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"I'm already very disaointed in this lock down I thought it was going to save me some time getting to work but roads were still busy just wish people would listen to the message and stay home save commuters time." Other commuters maybe ![]() | |||
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"If only the Tories hadn't been fucking the nhs for years on end. Oh bollocks! Play a new tune, that’s boring and untrue. NHS swims in cash problem is the middle management are experts at phishing it away" Yup that’s true as you can but medical masks on Amazon cheaper than the nhs was paying ![]() ![]() | |||
"The rates will only drop slightly as manufacturing is still operating. Most will have put controls in place after the first lockdown, but people don’t follow rules. " Yes. More people will be still going to work this time, so I agree with you. It's obviously not a full lockdown, but people have to work. | |||
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"It didn’t solve anything because too many people decided they knew best and ignored it!! Bullshit. Unless you seal everyone inside their homes forever, this virus will spread. Then you seal them in there homes the Chinese did it worked" That would kill more people than the virus | |||
"Nightingales weren't dismantled. They were left on standby. Judging by the traffic, it is not just a few non conformists." Cardiff Nightingale was dismantled. Non-conformists....? Where in the rules does it say I can't go out to work? Sadly I can't magically shake the money tree. I don't get paid for not working sadly. | |||
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"The first one solved nothing so what’s this one going to solve " You are Dead right Morons will still be morons and will do as they please and will sod everyone else. | |||
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