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"What about care staff" Care staff working in homes and the community absolutely included | |||
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"For me, Key workers in this context are: ALL NHS, blue light and emergency service staff Social workers All staff manning emergency phone lines (111, 118 and 119) Supermarket staff including delivery drivers Teachers and education support staff staff operating food production and deliveries. DPD, Hermes, Amazon and all over delivery companies " Utility staff, keep the power, sewage and alike connected and moving | |||
"What about care staff Care staff working in homes and the community absolutely included " Water and power supply workers? | |||
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"For me, Key workers in this context are: ALL NHS, blue light and emergency service staff Social workers All staff manning emergency phone lines (111, 118 and 119) Supermarket staff including delivery drivers Teachers and education support staff staff operating food production and deliveries. DPD, Hermes, Amazon and all over delivery companies " So builders electrical engineers plummets roofers All supply chain people. As said most are key in some way | |||
"For me, Key workers in this context are: ALL NHS, blue light and emergency service staff Social workers All staff manning emergency phone lines (111, 118 and 119) Supermarket staff including delivery drivers Teachers and education support staff staff operating food production and deliveries. DPD, Hermes, Amazon and all over delivery companies " BT/Openreach and other telecoms firms. | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker." I think it’s anyone that works in a line of work that makes or distributes essential products. It’s an expansion of the line about production of food. As such is consider that to be a key worker if the company determine that your role is key to support the production, manufacturing and/or distribution. Same with people working in essential services such as telecommunications, gas, electricity, internet etc. The list is endless really so naturally the more I think about it the more I add | |||
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"My daughter in law is apparently a key worker... she works for sky customer service " If learning becomes remote, internet and tech becomes critical to achieving that so I understand that. | |||
"For me, Key workers in this context are: ALL NHS, blue light and emergency service staff Social workers All staff manning emergency phone lines (111, 118 and 119) Supermarket staff including delivery drivers Teachers and education support staff staff operating food production and deliveries. DPD, Hermes, Amazon and all over delivery companies " Now go through that list and add in all the people that have to go to work doing a job that enables all these key workers to be able to do their job. The list is actually pretty big. | |||
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"As I said NOT key Nowander we can't follow the rules we don't even read the question? " I read the question. It’s easier to answer the reverse though otherwise we have a list of 10,000 occupations surely | |||
"For me, Key workers in this context are: ALL NHS, blue light and emergency service staff Social workers All staff manning emergency phone lines (111, 118 and 119) Supermarket staff including delivery drivers Teachers and education support staff staff operating food production and deliveries. DPD, Hermes, Amazon and all over delivery companies Now go through that list and add in all the people that have to go to work doing a job that enables all these key workers to be able to do their job. The list is actually pretty big. " Which was addressed in a later post | |||
"My daughter in law is apparently a key worker... she works for sky customer service If learning becomes remote, internet and tech becomes critical to achieving that so I understand that." oh yeah get that but she works for sky store lol x | |||
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"Does it actually say just key workers or people who can't work from home not including retail food places etc " Believe it's work from home if you can | |||
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"The list as provided by school earlier today in relation to key worker’s children Health and social care - This includes but is not limited to doctors, nurses, midwives, paramedics, social workers, care workers, and other frontline health and social care staff • Education and childcare - This includes nursery and teaching staff, social workers and those specialist education professionals • Key public services - This includes those essential to the running of the justice system, religious staff, charities and workers delivering key frontline services, those responsible for the management of the deceased, and journalists and broadcasters who are providing public service broadcasting. • Local and national government - This only includes those essential public services such as the payment of benefits, including in government agencies and arm’s length bodies. • Food and other necessary goods - This includes those involved in food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery as well as those essential to the provision of other key goods (for example hygienic and veterinary medicines). • Public safety and national security - This includes police and support staff, Ministry of Defence civilians, contractor and armed forces personnel, fire and rescue service, National Crime Agency staff, those maintaining border security, prison and probation staff and other national security roles, including those overseas. • Transport - This includes those who will keep the air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the COVID-19 response, including those working on transport systems through which supply chains pass. • Utilities, communication and financial services - This includes staff needed for essential financial services provision, the oil, gas, electricity and water sectors (including sewerage), information technology and data infrastructure sector key staff working in the civil nuclear, chemicals, telecommunications, postal services and delivery, payments providers and waste disposal sectors." Which when you think through 4 or 5 random scenarios makes sense | |||
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"I'd class my self as not a key worker. im a delivery driver and my job just got harder again more shit to deliver just because there bored at home and that thing of the internet looks so nice." You shouldn’t complain about having to work, when people are losing their jobs ! | |||
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"I am...have worked all through the pandemic " Same as but did get christmas off un like lots So every one is a key worker apart from. Non-essential Retail. Hospitality Pubs Restaurants etc. Hair and Beauty. Gyms sport and fitness. Entertainment theatre cinemas. Travel. so most will be in work. | |||
"For me, Key workers in this context are: ALL NHS, blue light and emergency service staff Social workers All staff manning emergency phone lines (111, 118 and 119) Supermarket staff including delivery drivers Teachers and education support staff staff operating food production and deliveries. DPD, Hermes, Amazon and all over delivery companies " I work at an oil refinery making diesel and petrol... what do you think? | |||
"Those responsible for the services to keep people healthy and alive, predominantly. This includes care, health, military, energy and utility services, food production, retail and delivery, supermarket and retail staff where of the dominant or key suppliers in an area, public transport and vehicle services, emergency service staff are the types that come to mind but there will be others. " Few mention the police and army they are key workers | |||
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"What about compliance business advice, helping companies comply with the ever changing covid guidelines. A mate does this, was recently classed as an essential worker." it probably is essential but something the govt have determined should be able to be done at home for example i work for a bank, but all back office services are being done from home , only customer facing positions (including i think most of the call centre but not all) were actually travelling out of their home for work when the measures were strictest, im expecting emails to the same effect tomorrow | |||
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"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker." I think you are if you're part of the supply chain for household/personal essentials like toiletries | |||
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"Postie here, still pounding the pavements Love to be not working on 90% money in ferlough " i might have been keen for 80% last year in the spring sitting out and still naive enough at that point to think it was an extended holiday , but i really dont envy the stress of those of furlough now , id be too worried about having no job to return to and i think some might be getting as low as 60% now | |||
"Postie here, still pounding the pavements Love to be not working on 90% money in ferlough " Bless you friend - we love seeing our postie - makes it feel more normal. If the post stops it'll feel like the end of civilisation is at hand! | |||
"Postie here, still pounding the pavements Love to be not working on 90% money in ferlough " I get that feeling almost envious of people getting paid to not work . I'd settle for 60% | |||
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"Postie here, still pounding the pavements Love to be not working on 90% money in ferlough Bless you friend - we love seeing our postie - makes it feel more normal. If the post stops it'll feel like the end of civilisation is at hand!" | |||
"I am...have worked all through the pandemic " Me too - electricity distribution | |||
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"For me, Key workers in this context are: ALL NHS, blue light and emergency service staff Social workers All staff manning emergency phone lines (111, 118 and 119) Supermarket staff including delivery drivers Teachers and education support staff staff operating food production and deliveries. DPD, Hermes, Amazon and all over delivery companies BT/Openreach and other telecoms firms." Yes, all telecoms infra , fibre , urban 5G, rural , plus all the finance and IT to keep the towers and loops running, we have permits to travel to most countries during lockdowns | |||
"90 percent pay is a pay RISE . It costs you fat more than 10 percent of your wages to work . I’ve worked as normal since last March . Part of me thinks I’m lucky , the other part grinds my gears as I get up at 0200 thinking of those snoring on furlough . Funny old world " that might be your personal circumstance but its not mine or many others the only way it costs you to work is if you chose to live a commute distance away and piss your money away on expensive coffee shop lunches ... many people walk or cycle and bring their own lunch with them (and you do still have to eat at home yes) ive been working all the way through too but open your eyes and see that furlough is not the dream ticket that you think it is | |||
"90 percent pay is a pay RISE . It costs you fat more than 10 percent of your wages to work . I’ve worked as normal since last March . Part of me thinks I’m lucky , the other part grinds my gears as I get up at 0200 thinking of those snoring on furlough . Funny old world " Same here as others at my place were on furlough If you think about it loosely, you’re working for 20% You could be sat at home getting 80% I made a fortune during it , though I think I might have to put a screwdriver through my tacho head unit | |||
"How do you consider as NOT a key worker. I say not as I think the list might be shorter." Swinger site moderators | |||
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"The list as provided by school earlier today in relation to key worker’s children Health and social care - This includes but is not limited to doctors, nurses, midwives, paramedics, social workers, care workers, and other frontline health and social care staff • Education and childcare - This includes nursery and teaching staff, social workers and those specialist education professionals • Key public services - This includes those essential to the running of the justice system, religious staff, charities and workers delivering key frontline services, those responsible for the management of the deceased, and journalists and broadcasters who are providing public service broadcasting. • Local and national government - This only includes those essential public services such as the payment of benefits, including in government agencies and arm’s length bodies. • Food and other necessary goods - This includes those involved in food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery as well as those essential to the provision of other key goods (for example hygienic and veterinary medicines). • Public safety and national security - This includes police and support staff, Ministry of Defence civilians, contractor and armed forces personnel, fire and rescue service, National Crime Agency staff, those maintaining border security, prison and probation staff and other national security roles, including those overseas. • Transport - This includes those who will keep the air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the COVID-19 response, including those working on transport systems through which supply chains pass. • Utilities, communication and financial services - This includes staff needed for essential financial services provision, the oil, gas, electricity and water sectors (including sewerage), information technology and data infrastructure sector key staff working in the civil nuclear, chemicals, telecommunications, postal services and delivery, payments providers and waste disposal sectors. Which when you think through 4 or 5 random scenarios makes sense " It does | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker." Anyone who works during lockdown is a key worker. | |||
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"People seem to forget utility workers, tradesmen, people that work for DWP, postmen, binman ect.. 35% of the workforce are essential workers and a further 30% as key workers. So that makes up the majority of people. " it is the majority but even in those vocations some of the staff can work from home all of the time, others some of the time and for the likes of bin men forward planning of shift patterns could limit the number of people mixing in the same small teams per vehicle and then heading home to just their home bubbles keeping 65% of us working doesn’t mean we need to keep 65% of us mixing if we are smart about it | |||
"People seem to forget utility workers, tradesmen, people that work for DWP, postmen, binman ect.. 35% of the workforce are essential workers and a further 30% as key workers. So that makes up the majority of people. it is the majority but even in those vocations some of the staff can work from home all of the time, others some of the time and for the likes of bin men forward planning of shift patterns could limit the number of people mixing in the same small teams per vehicle and then heading home to just their home bubbles keeping 65% of us working doesn’t mean we need to keep 65% of us mixing if we are smart about it " Did I say that they didn't work from home? I'm sure it's all being managed very well I was just giving an opinion! | |||
"People seem to forget utility workers, tradesmen, people that work for DWP, postmen, binman ect.. 35% of the workforce are essential workers and a further 30% as key workers. So that makes up the majority of people. it is the majority but even in those vocations some of the staff can work from home all of the time, others some of the time and for the likes of bin men forward planning of shift patterns could limit the number of people mixing in the same small teams per vehicle and then heading home to just their home bubbles keeping 65% of us working doesn’t mean we need to keep 65% of us mixing if we are smart about it " You do realise that with bin men , it’s normally the same team in a lorry , each day So bad example | |||
"90 percent pay is a pay RISE . It costs you fat more than 10 percent of your wages to work . I’ve worked as normal since last March . Part of me thinks I’m lucky , the other part grinds my gears as I get up at 0200 thinking of those snoring on furlough . Funny old world that might be your personal circumstance but its not mine or many others the only way it costs you to work is if you chose to live a commute distance away and piss your money away on expensive coffee shop lunches ... many people walk or cycle and bring their own lunch with them (and you do still have to eat at home yes) ive been working all the way through too but open your eyes and see that furlough is not the dream ticket that you think it is " Good point . Some costs of work will be higher in fact but ten percent is the UK average cost to work of the average UK salary statistically . It’s not just what you say , there are so many other factors to consider . You’re not going to buy hold ups to work from your lounge unless you do web cam shows !!! | |||
"People seem to forget utility workers, tradesmen, people that work for DWP, postmen, binman ect.. 35% of the workforce are essential workers and a further 30% as key workers. So that makes up the majority of people. it is the majority but even in those vocations some of the staff can work from home all of the time, others some of the time and for the likes of bin men forward planning of shift patterns could limit the number of people mixing in the same small teams per vehicle and then heading home to just their home bubbles keeping 65% of us working doesn’t mean we need to keep 65% of us mixing if we are smart about it You do realise that with bin men , it’s normally the same team in a lorry , each day So bad example " Agreed. | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker. Anyone who works during lockdown is a key worker. " Absolutely not....my job is neither essential nor key to anything yet I have to go to my place of work to do my job. I simply cannot work from home and there is almost no furlough scheme here facilitated by the government either. Any furlough is paid by the company from its own funds and it is hemorrhaging money at a shocking rate in the meantime too. | |||
"People seem to forget utility workers, tradesmen, people that work for DWP, postmen, binman ect.. 35% of the workforce are essential workers and a further 30% as key workers. So that makes up the majority of people. it is the majority but even in those vocations some of the staff can work from home all of the time, others some of the time and for the likes of bin men forward planning of shift patterns could limit the number of people mixing in the same small teams per vehicle and then heading home to just their home bubbles keeping 65% of us working doesn’t mean we need to keep 65% of us mixing if we are smart about it Did I say that they didn't work from home? I'm sure it's all being managed very well I was just giving an opinion!" lorna once again I’ve made an expansion on your point and you seem to have taken it as a challenge that wasn’t there , i don’t disagree with your opinion or your right to have one ill actively try to make sure in future i don’t quote something you’ve said because its clearly being misinterpreted every time | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker. Anyone who works during lockdown is a key worker. Absolutely not....my job is neither essential nor key to anything yet I have to go to my place of work to do my job. I simply cannot work from home and there is almost no furlough scheme here facilitated by the government either. Any furlough is paid by the company from its own funds and it is hemorrhaging money at a shocking rate in the meantime too." can i be nosy and ask what type of work you do that has no govt support? | |||
"People seem to forget utility workers, tradesmen, people that work for DWP, postmen, binman ect.. 35% of the workforce are essential workers and a further 30% as key workers. So that makes up the majority of people. it is the majority but even in those vocations some of the staff can work from home all of the time, others some of the time and for the likes of bin men forward planning of shift patterns could limit the number of people mixing in the same small teams per vehicle and then heading home to just their home bubbles keeping 65% of us working doesn’t mean we need to keep 65% of us mixing if we are smart about it Did I say that they didn't work from home? I'm sure it's all being managed very well I was just giving an opinion! lorna once again I’ve made an expansion on your point and you seem to have taken it as a challenge that wasn’t there , i don’t disagree with your opinion or your right to have one ill actively try to make sure in future i don’t quote something you’ve said because its clearly being misinterpreted every time " If you would that would be great. | |||
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"I owe everyone an apology We are all essential workers To our bosses bank balance " Well thats true | |||
"I owe everyone an apology We are all essential workers To our bosses bank balance Well thats true " | |||
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"Cleaners that clean hospitals and hospital units,police stations, firestations ect" While maybe contracted out , technically still working there As far as I’m concerned, key workers | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker. Anyone who works during lockdown is a key worker. Absolutely not....my job is neither essential nor key to anything yet I have to go to my place of work to do my job. I simply cannot work from home and there is almost no furlough scheme here facilitated by the government either. Any furlough is paid by the company from its own funds and it is hemorrhaging money at a shocking rate in the meantime too. can i be nosy and ask what type of work you do that has no govt support? " Engineering. And it was offered govt support but refused it so that it could scale down the number of people they employ and sell off parts of the business blaming the state of the economy. | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker. Anyone who works during lockdown is a key worker. Absolutely not....my job is neither essential nor key to anything yet I have to go to my place of work to do my job. I simply cannot work from home and there is almost no furlough scheme here facilitated by the government either. Any furlough is paid by the company from its own funds and it is hemorrhaging money at a shocking rate in the meantime too. can i be nosy and ask what type of work you do that has no govt support? Engineering. And it was offered govt support but refused it so that it could scale down the number of people they employ and sell off parts of the business blaming the state of the economy." Unfortunately there is a few companies doing this and using it as an excuse to get rid of people. | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker. Anyone who works during lockdown is a key worker. Absolutely not....my job is neither essential nor key to anything yet I have to go to my place of work to do my job. I simply cannot work from home and there is almost no furlough scheme here facilitated by the government either. Any furlough is paid by the company from its own funds and it is hemorrhaging money at a shocking rate in the meantime too. can i be nosy and ask what type of work you do that has no govt support? Engineering. And it was offered govt support but refused it so that it could scale down the number of people they employ and sell off parts of the business blaming the state of the economy. Unfortunately there is a few companies doing this and using it as an excuse to get rid of people. " I’m sorry to tell you , but your company have sold you down the river As you said , it refused Goverment support which is their choice I could have chosen voluntary furlough, my company could not refuse me but I chose to work | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker. Anyone who works during lockdown is a key worker. Absolutely not....my job is neither essential nor key to anything yet I have to go to my place of work to do my job. I simply cannot work from home and there is almost no furlough scheme here facilitated by the government either. Any furlough is paid by the company from its own funds and it is hemorrhaging money at a shocking rate in the meantime too. can i be nosy and ask what type of work you do that has no govt support? Engineering. And it was offered govt support but refused it so that it could scale down the number of people they employ and sell off parts of the business blaming the state of the economy. Unfortunately there is a few companies doing this and using it as an excuse to get rid of people. I’m sorry to tell you , but your company have sold you down the river As you said , it refused Goverment support which is their choice I could have chosen voluntary furlough, my company could not refuse me but I chose to work " We know what they have done and it has been done with Govt blessing and there is nothing that can be done to stop some of the things they are choosing to do. | |||
"Ok I work as an engineer for a company that makes toiletrys and supliments. Would you class this as a key worker. Anyone who works during lockdown is a key worker. Absolutely not....my job is neither essential nor key to anything yet I have to go to my place of work to do my job. I simply cannot work from home and there is almost no furlough scheme here facilitated by the government either. Any furlough is paid by the company from its own funds and it is hemorrhaging money at a shocking rate in the meantime too. can i be nosy and ask what type of work you do that has no govt support? Engineering. And it was offered govt support but refused it so that it could scale down the number of people they employ and sell off parts of the business blaming the state of the economy. Unfortunately there is a few companies doing this and using it as an excuse to get rid of people. I’m sorry to tell you , but your company have sold you down the river As you said , it refused Goverment support which is their choice I could have chosen voluntary furlough, my company could not refuse me but I chose to work We know what they have done and it has been done with Govt blessing and there is nothing that can be done to stop some of the things they are choosing to do. " But that is your companies choice , not the government’s If you feel that way then perhaps you should work for a Goverment owned company rather than one that is privately owned Whilst I agree it’s not fair , it sounds like they were thinking about this before covid | |||
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"90 percent pay is a pay RISE . It costs you fat more than 10 percent of your wages to work . I’ve worked as normal since last March . Part of me thinks I’m lucky , the other part grinds my gears as I get up at 0200 thinking of those snoring on furlough . Funny old world that might be your personal circumstance but its not mine or many others the only way it costs you to work is if you chose to live a commute distance away and piss your money away on expensive coffee shop lunches ... many people walk or cycle and bring their own lunch with them (and you do still have to eat at home yes) ive been working all the way through too but open your eyes and see that furlough is not the dream ticket that you think it is " It was and is for my daughter She got 80% from main employment £2500 + money from 2 other employers so was getting close on £3500 a month to do nothing. And will get most of that till the london theatre's open back up. And she is spending nothing on commuting. | |||
"Postie here, still pounding the pavements Love to be not working on 90% money in ferlough " Lazy cunt | |||
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"I wouldnt say a car park attendant or a traffic warder is a key worker." I agree. I had to go to the bank earlier. The NCP car park was closed but council wardens were patrolling the town centre. | |||
"90 percent pay is a pay RISE . It costs you fat more than 10 percent of your wages to work . I’ve worked as normal since last March . Part of me thinks I’m lucky , the other part grinds my gears as I get up at 0200 thinking of those snoring on furlough . Funny old world that might be your personal circumstance but its not mine or many others the only way it costs you to work is if you chose to live a commute distance away and piss your money away on expensive coffee shop lunches ... many people walk or cycle and bring their own lunch with them (and you do still have to eat at home yes) ive been working all the way through too but open your eyes and see that furlough is not the dream ticket that you think it is It was and is for my daughter She got 80% from main employment £2500 + money from 2 other employers so was getting close on £3500 a month to do nothing. And will get most of that till the london theatre's open back up. And she is spending nothing on commuting. " Sorry but that takes the Micky out of those of us that are on the front line working every day and who have worked since this bloody pandemic began. Your daughter gets double my salary and yet it’s me putting myself and my family at risk. It’s beggars belief | |||
"90 percent pay is a pay RISE . It costs you fat more than 10 percent of your wages to work . I’ve worked as normal since last March . Part of me thinks I’m lucky , the other part grinds my gears as I get up at 0200 thinking of those snoring on furlough . Funny old world that might be your personal circumstance but its not mine or many others the only way it costs you to work is if you chose to live a commute distance away and piss your money away on expensive coffee shop lunches ... many people walk or cycle and bring their own lunch with them (and you do still have to eat at home yes) ive been working all the way through too but open your eyes and see that furlough is not the dream ticket that you think it is It was and is for my daughter She got 80% from main employment £2500 + money from 2 other employers so was getting close on £3500 a month to do nothing. And will get most of that till the london theatre's open back up. And she is spending nothing on commuting. Sorry but that takes the Micky out of those of us that are on the front line working every day and who have worked since this bloody pandemic began. Your daughter gets double my salary and yet it’s me putting myself and my family at risk. It’s beggars belief " 10% of wages to work it costs me 0% of my wages to work where does 10% come from?. | |||
"For me, Key workers in this context are: ALL NHS, blue light and emergency service staff Social workers All staff manning emergency phone lines (111, 118 and 119) Supermarket staff including delivery drivers Teachers and education support staff staff operating food production and deliveries. DPD, Hermes, Amazon and all over delivery companies " What about all those trade people who need stuff or boiler broke no heating or hot wate | |||
"Bank staff. Those in the branches and those working the phone lines from home. " Ignore this. I thought it said who do you, not who don't you. Big oops | |||
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"90 percent pay is a pay RISE . It costs you fat more than 10 percent of your wages to work . I’ve worked as normal since last March . Part of me thinks I’m lucky , the other part grinds my gears as I get up at 0200 thinking of those snoring on furlough . Funny old world that might be your personal circumstance but its not mine or many others the only way it costs you to work is if you chose to live a commute distance away and piss your money away on expensive coffee shop lunches ... many people walk or cycle and bring their own lunch with them (and you do still have to eat at home yes) ive been working all the way through too but open your eyes and see that furlough is not the dream ticket that you think it is It was and is for my daughter She got 80% from main employment £2500 + money from 2 other employers so was getting close on £3500 a month to do nothing. And will get most of that till the london theatre's open back up. And she is spending nothing on commuting. Sorry but that takes the Micky out of those of us that are on the front line working every day and who have worked since this bloody pandemic began. Your daughter gets double my salary and yet it’s me putting myself and my family at risk. It’s beggars belief " I completely agree with you the wife is a Nurse and gets nothing like that. It is shocking what some are getting. | |||
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"My daughter in law is apparently a key worker... she works for sky customer service " very essential. how else will we get our remotes to show penis sizes | |||