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As a hypothetical, would you pay for a Vaccine?
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
The Oxford Vaccine = £3
Moderna Vaccine = £25
Pfizer/BioNTech = £15
Sputnik V = £7.50
To be clear I would. But then I do for most medical things.
If you were able to pay - as this would offset the cost to the country as a whole, would you pay?
I'm NOT talking about queue-jumping either. Purely about paying when it is available to me and my family.
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If I could take a vaccine (I carry epi pens) then I would pay for the OAZ vaccine without hesitation, and if it was certified for under 16's I would pay for my kiddo & kidlet to have the OAZ vaccines.
I do have travel plans for 2021 but I still would pay for them even if I didn't plan to travel this year  |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Hypothetically I think lots of people and businesses will.
I got the Oxford back in June though. Just missed getting paid!"
Sorry don't understand? Are you saying you have had the Oxford Vaccine? |
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Not sure.
I'd need to be certain that it wouldn't be a minus 1 from a stock elsewhere for folks that needed it more than me.
Otherwise I'd feel pretty bad about myself. (Technically I am in at a risk category, but there are others higher than me that deserve it more than I do as they are at greater risk).
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Oxford Vaccine = £3
Moderna Vaccine = £25
Pfizer/BioNTech = £15
Sputnik V = £7.50
To be clear I would. But then I do for most medical things.
If you were able to pay - as this would offset the cost to the country as a whole, would you pay?
I'm NOT talking about queue-jumping either. Purely about paying when it is available to me and my family.
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Yes most definitely. Cannot put a price on life so if its a chance of survival most definitely |
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You may all have to pay to use the NHS now that Doris and Co have decided to put it on the table for trade deals.It can also be done without parliamentary scrutiny.
The Tories' new trade bill means the NHS is now unquestionably up for sale
Emily Thornberry
And, thanks to the rejection of another proposed amendment, new clause 4, which would have prevented trade deals from being signed unless they were approved by parliament, there is also nothing parliament can do to prevent this from happening. Under the terms of the trade bill, an agreement can now be negotiated with the US government entirely in secret, laid before parliament, and can officially become law after 21 days without any vote or substantive debate by MPs.
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"You may all have to pay to use the NHS now that Doris and Co have decided to put it on the table for trade deals.It can also be done without parliamentary scrutiny.
The Tories' new trade bill means the NHS is now unquestionably up for sale
Emily Thornberry
And, thanks to the rejection of another proposed amendment, new clause 4, which would have prevented trade deals from being signed unless they were approved by parliament, there is also nothing parliament can do to prevent this from happening. Under the terms of the trade bill, an agreement can now be negotiated with the US government entirely in secret, laid before parliament, and can officially become law after 21 days without any vote or substantive debate by MPs.
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So they can now do these trade deals in secret but you know they have put the nhs on the table, just how exactly do those two sentences work |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes but would probably give the Sputnik a swerve.
The Sputnik vaccine comes with a sealed shot of Stolichnaya.
?? ???? ???????? (To your health!)"
hey theres an idea why dont they just put it in all alcohol Nation would be vaccinated within a week |
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"The Oxford Vaccine = £3
Moderna Vaccine = £25
Pfizer/BioNTech = £15
Sputnik V = £7.50
To be clear I would. But then I do for most medical things.
If you were able to pay - as this would offset the cost to the country as a whole, would you pay?
I'm NOT talking about queue-jumping either. Purely about paying when it is available to me and my family.
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One of each please and I’d leave a nice tip. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"The Oxford Vaccine = £3
Moderna Vaccine = £25
Pfizer/BioNTech = £15
Sputnik V = £7.50
To be clear I would. But then I do for most medical things.
If you were able to pay - as this would offset the cost to the country as a whole, would you pay?
I'm NOT talking about queue-jumping either. Purely about paying when it is available to me and my family.
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Yes depending on cost |
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Ummmm no I absolutely would not pay for something I have already been contributing towards for my entire adult life. I have always been a basic rate tax payer (largest group in U.K.)
The NHS is funded through general taxation with a clear and very proud mantra of “free at the point of use”. The nhs is an institution beyond amazing which is why for the U.K. it’s critical we adhere to the rules of lockdown so as not to overwhelm them - other countries like the USA have tried and failed to replicate what the nhs provides us folk here in the U.K as it would require everyone to pay more tax ( Atleast to begin with).
Yes budgets are strained within the nhs system but this is down to mis use of funds, inadequate management, far to many layers of management!! Ridiculous groups and sub groups! An example would be where one hospital is required to buy from a supplier when they know they can get the same item cheaper elsewhere! That’s where the money goes. And let’s not start on how much the pharmaceutical industry charge for medicine and the enormous disparity in prices from one buyer to another!
So I’m conclusion no I won’t pay for a vaccine here in the U.K. as it being free is part of our british culture.
What I might do is make a donation so that the practice could spend some money on staff welfare or to buy something for the greater good. But when looking at what some manufacturers are charging compared to another a donation clearly would not be offset ing the cost to nhs.
U.K. gov. Has money in the bank to spend in times like this, and when they don’t we print more because our financial system and laws and checks and balances allow for this to a degree
Sorry rant over
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"Yes but would probably give the Sputnik a swerve.
The Sputnik vaccine comes with a sealed shot of Stolichnaya.
?? ???? ???????? (To your health!)hey theres an idea why dont they just put it in all alcohol Nation would be vaccinated within a week "
It sounds like something I’ve had to clear off my face after a Friday night of intense swinging
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Ummmm no I absolutely would not pay for something I have already been contributing towards for my entire adult life. I have always been a basic rate tax payer (largest group in U.K.)
The NHS is funded through general taxation with a clear and very proud mantra of “free at the point of use”. The nhs is an institution beyond amazing which is why for the U.K. it’s critical we adhere to the rules of lockdown so as not to overwhelm them - other countries like the USA have tried and failed to replicate what the nhs provides us folk here in the U.K as it would require everyone to pay more tax ( Atleast to begin with).
Yes budgets are strained within the nhs system but this is down to mis use of funds, inadequate management, far to many layers of management!! Ridiculous groups and sub groups! An example would be where one hospital is required to buy from a supplier when they know they can get the same item cheaper elsewhere! That’s where the money goes. And let’s not start on how much the pharmaceutical industry charge for medicine and the enormous disparity in prices from one buyer to another!
So I’m conclusion no I won’t pay for a vaccine here in the U.K. as it being free is part of our british culture.
What I might do is make a donation so that the practice could spend some money on staff welfare or to buy something for the greater good. But when looking at what some manufacturers are charging compared to another a donation clearly would not be offset ing the cost to nhs.
U.K. gov. Has money in the bank to spend in times like this, and when they don’t we print more because our financial system and laws and checks and balances allow for this to a degree
Sorry rant over
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Sadly NHS dentists still want you to cough up. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Ummmm no I absolutely would not pay for something I have already been contributing towards for my entire adult life. I have always been a basic rate tax payer (largest group in U.K.)
The NHS is funded through general taxation with a clear and very proud mantra of “free at the point of use”. The nhs is an institution beyond amazing which is why for the U.K. it’s critical we adhere to the rules of lockdown so as not to overwhelm them - other countries like the USA have tried and failed to replicate what the nhs provides us folk here in the U.K as it would require everyone to pay more tax ( Atleast to begin with).
Yes budgets are strained within the nhs system but this is down to mis use of funds, inadequate management, far to many layers of management!! Ridiculous groups and sub groups! An example would be where one hospital is required to buy from a supplier when they know they can get the same item cheaper elsewhere! That’s where the money goes. And let’s not start on how much the pharmaceutical industry charge for medicine and the enormous disparity in prices from one buyer to another!
So I’m conclusion no I won’t pay for a vaccine here in the U.K. as it being free is part of our british culture.
What I might do is make a donation so that the practice could spend some money on staff welfare or to buy something for the greater good. But when looking at what some manufacturers are charging compared to another a donation clearly would not be offset ing the cost to nhs.
U.K. gov. Has money in the bank to spend in times like this, and when they don’t we print more because our financial system and laws and checks and balances allow for this to a degree
Sorry rant over
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It is and will be free but your mising the point.If you could get it quicker and beat the system.If affordable it makes sense to have it.
You would be saving the NHS money as well |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"The Oxford Vaccine = £3
Moderna Vaccine = £25
Pfizer/BioNTech = £15
Sputnik V = £7.50
To be clear I would. But then I do for most medical things.
If you were able to pay - as this would offset the cost to the country as a whole, would you pay?
I'm NOT talking about queue-jumping either. Purely about paying when it is available to me and my family.
One of each please and I’d leave a nice tip. "
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"Personal i think unless someone gets free precautions then it should cost the same as any prescription. "
No because charges puts a barrier in place, any barrier would reduce uptake and that will mean less effective overall benefit for everyone in society. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Personal i think unless someone gets free precautions then it should cost the same as any prescription.
No because charges puts a barrier in place, any barrier would reduce uptake and that will mean less effective overall benefit for everyone in society."
Im not so short to be honest in this situation that that would be true. The paid for flu vaccine had the highest ever take up this year. Also 90% of the population get free prescriptions anyway. |
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No.
I'm seen as high risk but I won't be taking it. This time last year we'd never heard of covid 19. No one knew what it was or the devastation it caused, but a vaccine has been made, ready to roll out in nine months?!!
Right...variant of Tuskegee experiment springs to mind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally I would think in unprecedented times like this we should all contribute a small sum to ensure we do keep the country going and help those who have lost jobs, who depend on the NHS every day, I am happy to pay my taxes and contribute towards a system that has been free for all, I think it's times like this we should be doing what we can to support the government instead of thinking we are entitled to anything.
But we are all entitled to our thoughts and opinions  |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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If you were able to pay - as this would offset the cost to the country as a whole, would you pay?
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I would have said yes , but there would be a condition for me.
If the contracts that were awarded to newly set up companies for PPE were scrutinised and made to pay back any money if / when found to have been dodgy dealings then I would |
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"Ummmm no I absolutely would not pay for something I have already been contributing towards for my entire adult life. I have always been a basic rate tax payer (largest group in U.K.)
The NHS is funded through general taxation with a clear and very proud mantra of “free at the point of use”. The nhs is an institution beyond amazing which is why for the U.K. it’s critical we adhere to the rules of lockdown so as not to overwhelm them - other countries like the USA have tried and failed to replicate what the nhs provides us folk here in the U.K as it would require everyone to pay more tax ( Atleast to begin with).
Yes budgets are strained within the nhs system but this is down to mis use of funds, inadequate management, far to many layers of management!! Ridiculous groups and sub groups! An example would be where one hospital is required to buy from a supplier when they know they can get the same item cheaper elsewhere! That’s where the money goes. And let’s not start on how much the pharmaceutical industry charge for medicine and the enormous disparity in prices from one buyer to another!
So I’m conclusion no I won’t pay for a vaccine here in the U.K. as it being free is part of our british culture.
What I might do is make a donation so that the practice could spend some money on staff welfare or to buy something for the greater good. But when looking at what some manufacturers are charging compared to another a donation clearly would not be offset ing the cost to nhs.
U.K. gov. Has money in the bank to spend in times like this, and when they don’t we print more because our financial system and laws and checks and balances allow for this to a degree
Sorry rant over
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But we already pay for prescriptions on top of tax contributions. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
Seems that most would pay voluntarily.
I would not in any circumstances queue-jump. But can clearly afford to pay - like I do with flu each year. I have paid for eye surgery and knee surgery over the years - comes a time when you can't play the ball or see the ball any more in Hockey so best get them fixed lol.
Well done to those who would pay, if they could.
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"No.
I'm seen as high risk but I won't be taking it. This time last year we'd never heard of covid 19. No one knew what it was or the devastation it caused, but a vaccine has been made, ready to roll out in nine months?!!
Right...variant of Tuskegee experiment springs to mind. "
At least we have fully transparent vaccine data and the lead regulator is an outstanding woman. |
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By *eoMan
over a year ago
Sutton-In-Ashfield |
I would like to say that I would pay for it if the choice was offered just to help out the country. How ever when I think of the thousands and thousands I’ve already payed into the nhs already throughout my working life. Never needed any surgery or major expensive treatments. Then still get ripped off every time I go to the dentist and pharmacists. I’d have a mind to tell them to bollox and I want it for free. But it’s each to there own i Suppose. |
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If you were able to pay - as this would offset the cost to the country as a whole, would you pay?
I would have said yes , but there would be a condition for me.
If the contracts that were awarded to newly set up companies for PPE were scrutinised and made to pay back any money if / when found to have been dodgy dealings then I would"
Ooh I like this.
I was thinking about saying I'd pay for my vaccine plus some for a fund for those who can't pay, but I might go vaccine plus legal fund to sue over corruption instead. |
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We all have paid for it with our taxes. This is what they’re for.
That being said, I wouldn’t mind paying for mine if that meant everyone else could also get vaccinated sooner and we’d all be out of this.
Tbh, I’d give half my savings if that would end the pandemic by next weekend... |
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