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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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I think it's so impossible to try to predict. Presuming there is adequate supply and and enough people to administer the jabs-
If we keep vaccinating and only vaccinate those above 50, those in specific jobs that put them more in closer contact with people, or those vulnerable, I think it will take possibly at least 6 months to get through the quota.
It then depends on how much immunity, and for how long the vaccine provides.
I just can't see a way that anyone could accurately predict it, but of course we all want it as soon as possible. |
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It's gonna be a while. maybe not even 2021.
Lets face it we aren't in a fantastic situation right at this time, 981 reported dead and 50k infections in 24 hours alone.
Even with a smooth roll out of the vaccine in this country, it may not be the same elsewhere in the world. I'd be prepared for another 12 months, and anything less will be a bonus. |
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By *ust1fbMan
over a year ago
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"It's gonna be a while. maybe not even 2021.
Lets face it we aren't in a fantastic situation right at this time, 981 reported dead and 50k infections in 24 hours alone.
Even with a smooth roll out of the vaccine in this country, it may not be the same elsewhere in the world. I'd be prepared for another 12 months, and anything less will be a bonus."
Ys I think at least another year before things go back to normal if at all |
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By *onyDunnMan
over a year ago
Sevenoaks |
Recovery will be led by the vaccine roll out and any mutations by the virus.
Stage 1 will be a drop in death rates, hospital admissions and infections. As the vaccine is applied to the over 50, the death rate and hospital admissions will fall. Stage 2: Infections will continue until everyone under 50 is vaccinated. Stage 3: There will still be infection either from those that refuse the vaccine or those arriving in the UK carrying the virus and becoming ill.
So stage 1 will see lock downs end and restrictions eased.,
Stage 2 - Social distancing will ease, stadiums will be full. Face masks need not be worn
Stage 3 - You will never shake the hand of a stranger again
UK Stage 1 April/May 2021 (hopefully) Stage 2 March 2022
Europe/US Stage 1 September 21. Stage 2 July 22
Africa/India - Many years for stage 1.
The only way to end it is by vaccine. And that comes with a supply/distribution set of issues. But once it is applied to a good % of a population things will improve in that population.
Travelling abroad will be a concern. EG going on a cruise will require a proof of vaccine withing 6 months travellings. Same going to US/Europe/UAE/Australia.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am pretty sure i wont meet anyone for sex until 2022 the way things are going.
Vaccines for my age group could take up until September from what i have seen. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"2 to 3 weeks after people follow rules and stay inside like we are told.
But alas, I think we will see another 6 months of this easily even with vaccines "
Agree maybe more but things could take longer as people will not show common sense and obey rules |
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"It's gonna be a while. maybe not even 2021.
Lets face it we aren't in a fantastic situation right at this time, 981 reported dead and 50k infections in 24 hours alone.
Even with a smooth roll out of the vaccine in this country, it may not be the same elsewhere in the world. I'd be prepared for another 12 months, and anything less will be a bonus."
I think you might be pretty close in your prediction. Those thinking the spring or early summer are living on another planet. There is now a problem with the recruitment of vaccinators. You have to meet a certain criteria to become one |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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2022 at a minimum we won't complete 80% of the UK population been vaccinated until near the end of 2021. We need the herd immunity to cope with the winter of 2021.
2021 will be much like 2020
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Autumn 2021 at the earliest.
We will see things change from june once over 60% are immunised IF this current Government can organise it.
We will need to restrict a fair bit too such as travel until global immunity.
So autumn 2021 onwards |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We’re in the darkest phase now and need to get through these awful few months but we’re hopeful that spring will look brighter and we have a summer of love  ...the AZ vaccine looks like it prevents serious illness and complications so next winter should be more like annual flu...which we’ve lived with for generations...have hope and fingers crossed no nasty mutations... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As a sheilding person told me the other day. He thinks never as he has not left the house since March only had deliveries of food and carer coming near. All he wants is people to stay home and stop spread that way he may be able to go out again sometime this year. It must be so hard for people living alone and sheilding.
I hope for it to be over by March |
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The government say they could vaccinate 2 million people per day. There are approximately 12 million people over the age of 65. So that's 6 days. Allow, say 4 million for health and care workers. That's another 2 days. That leaves another 50 million. So another 25 days.
Given the way thing have progressed so far, I'd say 6 months. Lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They don’t know if the vaccine stops communication of the virus. If it doesn’t then people will have it but without serious symptoms. Who is to say that it won’t mutate again to make the vaccine ineffective?
I wouldn’t be planning any foreign holidays for 2021 and I think we will have these tiers for a good while longer yet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think anyone that thinks normal will be obtained in 2021 is crazy, vaccinations will turn the tide but it's a long battle ahead to reach what we enjoyed before, and frankly that's assuming the virus doesn't mutate to something different. |
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By *oss25Man
over a year ago
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I suspect vaccinations will get to herd immunity by late Spring early Summer and we can mostly get back to “normal”.
It will continue to mutate and believe we will need annual vaccinations (like flu) tweaked to the most common strain
So a new normal by summer fingers crossed! |
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Most in the UK should be vaccinated by the end of 2021. That'll allow many of the restrictions to be relaxed.
Back to what you'd call normal? My guess would be at least another 5 years. There's a very big recession coming and many people will be out of work. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think anyone that thinks normal will be obtained in 2021 is crazy, vaccinations will turn the tide but it's a long battle ahead to reach what we enjoyed before, and frankly that's assuming the virus doesn't mutate to something different."
It could mutate into an elongated snot dribbler  then we're all fucked |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Early march 2020 was the last we saw of normal. Even if the powers that be granted everyone go back to 2019 life you can be sure that many people would be too shit scared to embrace it. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"Early march 2020 was the last we saw of normal. Even if the powers that be granted everyone go back to 2019 life you can be sure that many people would be too shit scared to embrace it. "
i agree with you for some people thhey are gona be to scared to go back to normal |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"I think anyone that thinks normal will be obtained in 2021 is crazy, vaccinations will turn the tide but it's a long battle ahead to reach what we enjoyed before, and frankly that's assuming the virus doesn't mutate to something different."
The constant mutating of covid will ensure this just runs and runs. Dont forget we where told back in april that this is the new normal. Not temporary but new normal. What wasn't the government telling us ? |
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"Early march 2020 was the last we saw of normal. Even if the powers that be granted everyone go back to 2019 life you can be sure that many people would be too shit scared to embrace it.
i agree with you for some people thhey are gona be to scared to go back to normal"
Or after being alone so long, struggle to be around or interact with other people even without the virus around |
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My guess would be less use of Tiers system at around March April .. though no real return to any kind if ' all clear ' normality that allows people to mix freely without masks etc for at least another 6 months to a year after that .
As for a complete return to how things used to be ( March 2029?) I don't think we will see that for two or three years or more .
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By *onyDunnMan
over a year ago
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"They don’t know if the vaccine stops communication of the virus. If it doesn’t then people will have it but without serious symptoms. Who is to say that it won’t mutate again to make the vaccine ineffective?
I wouldn’t be planning any foreign holidays for 2021 and I think we will have these tiers for a good while longer yet "
As I understand it, despite being vaccinated from Measles, Mumps or Chicken Pox, for example, I can still catch it and pass it on. My little antibodies will be busy protecting me from the pox but I might catch it and pass it on. So it is likely the same will happen with Covid. Does any body know? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hopefully thongs will be much improved by May, but still nowhere near 'normal'. It may never be quite the same as before... Im expecting to see plenty of masks in the winter, even if its not mandatory by then. |
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"The government say they could vaccinate 2 million people per day. There are approximately 12 million people over the age of 65. So that's 6 days. Allow, say 4 million for health and care workers. That's another 2 days. That leaves another 50 million. So another 25 days.
Given the way thing have progressed so far, I'd say 6 months. Lol."
I think you will find they said 2m per week! |
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Since the virus and it's mutations are on the verge of becoming endemic I think it's going to be 2022 at the earliest before we have any sense of new normality.
Vaccines will need to be given yearly just like the flu. As current generations are infected and either recover and develop tolerances ( immunity is very very unlikely due to mutation speed) or die the viruses impact will lesson. Future generations will inherit the tolerances from their parents but will still need boosters for the new strains. The flu still kills but it's mostly manageable. Just consider how deadly the ordinary flu would be it was to hit humanity for the very first time today. When it first hit we didn't have such a large population or ease of transport. It's taken generations for it to become a seasonal annoyance. Unfortunately that is covids road map. But the bright side is our technology is better now, medicine is better and people can be better informed. The scientific community has pulled together to work on this one issue to lessen that time until it becomes just an annoyance.
Humanity will bounce. We adapt and are the only species capable of changing our own evolution. That's how we learn to live with it |
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"They don’t know if the vaccine stops communication of the virus. If it doesn’t then people will have it but without serious symptoms. Who is to say that it won’t mutate again to make the vaccine ineffective?
I wouldn’t be planning any foreign holidays for 2021 and I think we will have these tiers for a good while longer yet
As I understand it, despite being vaccinated from Measles, Mumps or Chicken Pox, for example, I can still catch it and pass it on. My little antibodies will be busy protecting me from the pox but I might catch it and pass it on. So it is likely the same will happen with Covid. Does any body know?"
The vaccine SHOULD stop you passing the infection on via breath/ saliva etc as it stops it developing in your body, however we don’t have any evidence to prove this yet. Obviously what the vaccine can’t do though is stop you passing it on by contact - so if you pick the virus up by touch and it is on your body/ clothing you can pass it to those around you. Hopefully if they have been vaccinated though it won’t make them I’ll. |
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My guess would be less use of Tiers system at around March April .. though no real return to any kind of ' all clear ' normality that allows people to mix freely without masks etc for at least another 6 months to a year after that .
As for a complete return to how things used to be ( March 2029?) I don't think we will see that for two or three years or more unfortunately.
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From what I'm reading, everything depends on how fast they can get their hands on the Oxford Vaccine. If they can do 1 million doses per week from Monday, all 65+s will be done by April and that's when restrictions should start to ease up. 50+s by July. Everyone else after that.. Probably all the way to the end of the year.
If you're over 50, you wouldn't want to be playing until you've had your jab and allowed 2 or 3 weeks for it to work. We've got our fingers and toes crossed for them doing 2m per week so we can safely play in the spring.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Had no idea fab was full of some many qualified disease ecologists. "
Qualified in everything on this site mate from brain surgeons to wannabe prime ministers!! 
Can't seem to find a partner though, which is surprising???  |
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As more and more people get the vaccine the rate of infections will go down. I hope that this will be visible by the end of March next year however in the meantime we should all still follow the advice of wash hands, use a face mask and keep distancing. |
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Ever the optimist, we are clearly lined up with cold and flu season now, so I’m hopeful for the spring to see us back in the pubs in small groups like we had in the summer.
It looks like the Gov are focussing on dealing with the 9 vulnerable groups (25 million-ish) ASAP, then with a bit of luck they will let go and manage it like flu. Once the vulnerable groups are sorted, the pressure on the NHS should drop to manageable levels.
I do think some things will take a long time to return back to normal, I can’t see pubs operating to the same capacity as they did before for a while, ram-jam, shoulder to shoulder, winter germs free gratis.
Some of it won’t be a bad thing either. I wouldn’t miss the mass herd/stampede to get served in a busy bar, with people pushing in left right and centre. We’ve proved things can work differently, in a calmer, friendlier, more civilised manner. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Probably by the end of the year. Like others have said, getting the majority of the population vaccinated should go a long way towards things normalizing.
This is a good read for anyone interested.
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/coronavirus-vaccine-your-questions-answered#Heading1 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Had no idea fab was full of some many qualified disease ecologists.
Ecologists?"
A disease ecologist is a professional in the public health field who focuses on studying the overall patterns of disease within populations. Their ultimate goal is to understand the various principles that drive forward those patterns |
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"Had no idea fab was full of some many qualified disease ecologists.
Ecologists?
A disease ecologist is a professional in the public health field who focuses on studying the overall patterns of disease within populations. Their ultimate goal is to understand the various principles that drive forward those patterns"
That's epidemiology.
Disease ecology = understands the mechanisms and scale of pathogen impacts on host individuals, populations, communities and ultimately ecosystem function. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Had no idea fab was full of some many qualified disease ecologists.
Ecologists?
A disease ecologist is a professional in the public health field who focuses on studying the overall patterns of disease within populations. Their ultimate goal is to understand the various principles that drive forward those patterns
That's epidemiology.
Disease ecology = understands the mechanisms and scale of pathogen impacts on host individuals, populations, communities and ultimately ecosystem function."
Inveriably study disease ecology and epodimiogy overlap however the deifiniton I used is of what the role of a disease ecologist is, not was subject of disease ecology is.
The link belows takes you to a very nice explanation of the role.
https://www.careersinpublichealth.net/careers/disease-ecologist/
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Depend on the definition of NORMAL
Never ad it was
Offices in London and o the big city's will never go back to how thay where.
The High street will go back to 1960 smaller Indipendent.
Retail parks will pick up.
Travel will never recover in my life time be more like the 80s cost to much for the working person so will be more exclusive. |
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The "new normal" we experience now, will continue indefinitely, just in different shades / tones / degrees.
RNA viruses are virtually impossible to eradicate entirely. They can mutate once in a host and spawn off an entire new strain. Which can be resistant to current vaccine.
Also, RNA viruses do not possess a specific "weak point" or "Achilles Heel". Would be great if they did, as it would make developing a targeted vaccine that endures across different strains easy.
So, with a mutating and evolving virus now loose in the world, I believe we are going to be swinging in and out (no pun intended) of various lockdowns, intermediate rules, restrictions, ad infinitum until certain things happen.
1. The virus runs out of hosts to infect. Very unlikely. Covid-19 affects various mammals, so it's not just humans that are carriers. It crosses the animal/human barrier. (Eg Mink). I sincerely hope a canine or feline host doesn't mutate a new variant which rapidly transmits across man/mammal, as the consequences of culling family pets is too awful to consider.
2. The transmission opportunities are reduced in localised pockets where effective track and trace is employed. Essentially what happened to Sars and it was effective. Sars was very easy to track as it had a quick onset time and mortality was 1 in 5, so very easy to spot. Covid-19 is harder to detect and slower. But still doable with concerted effort.
3. A super-duper vaccine is developed that targets every variant. Completely impossible.
It's going to be 2. It will just take time. It'll be like the seasonal flu vaccine. You'll have a jab for the most common variant and will be afforded a better degree of protection.
It's a bit like folks approach to swinging. We all know there are some unpleasant STD's out there. We each decide on our own level of personal risk, and take mitigations (hopefully !) appropriate to the situation.
We essentially "work our lives" around the threats as best we can.
We will find our own "new normals" in our own time, as time goes on.
Humans are very adaptable and resourceful (one of the reasons we are still here!), and once we get over the initial bump, we will start to settle down and learn to live with the virus.
Before Covid, did you worry every time you left the house about getting Measles or Chickenpox ? Of course not.
I would suggest that we will eventually get close to that stage in due course.
It just takes time, that's all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Get yourselves ready for another year of this, they have control of the population now and they won't relinquish that easily"
Give over, why do people think this is all about population control the whole argument makes no sense! |
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"Get yourselves ready for another year of this,"
Just 1 year ? Jeeze, my grandparents lived through WW2 which was 6 years of sacrifice, terror, fear, The Blitz.
I'm sitting at home eating ice cream and playing computer games. Somehow, I think I've got this.
"they have control of the population now and they won't relinquish that easily"
Are you adhering, citizen ? Have you complied ?
I'm complying not because I have too, but because I *want* to.
I want to get case levels down. Reduce the levels of infection. Not catch the virus and relay it on to someone else who may die or suffer long-term health consequences from it. Completely unknown to me. Because that's on me. I'm responsible for my actions and how they affect others.
Some folks are good citizens and have worked this out themselves. Others need to be told and enforced where necessary. |
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"Get yourselves ready for another year of this,
Just 1 year ? Jeeze, my grandparents lived through WW2 which was 6 years of sacrifice, terror, fear, The Blitz.
I'm sitting at home eating ice cream and playing computer games. Somehow, I think I've got this.
they have control of the population now and they won't relinquish that easily
Are you adhering, citizen ? Have you complied ?
I'm complying not because I have too, but because I *want* to.
I want to get case levels down. Reduce the levels of infection. Not catch the virus and relay it on to someone else who may die or suffer long-term health consequences from it. Completely unknown to me. Because that's on me. I'm responsible for my actions and how they affect others.
Some folks are good citizens and have worked this out themselves. Others need to be told and enforced where necessary."
Oh FFS, here we go yet again with the ridiculous war comparisons. Yes there was a war and yes it must've been terrible but it in no way negates the isolation, loneliness, worry and loss that people are feeling now. This isn't just about folk not getting to a pub, folk are losing lives, loved ones, jobs and homes every single day. How dare you trivialise that with your sneering remark about a war 70 years ago. |
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By *innMan
over a year ago
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"Recovery will be led by the vaccine roll out and any mutations by the virus.
Stage 1 will be a drop in death rates, hospital admissions and infections. As the vaccine is applied to the over 50, the death rate and hospital admissions will fall. Stage 2: Infections will continue until everyone under 50 is vaccinated. Stage 3: There will still be infection either from those that refuse the vaccine or those arriving in the UK carrying the virus and becoming ill.
So stage 1 will see lock downs end and restrictions eased.,
Stage 2 - Social distancing will ease, stadiums will be full. Face masks need not be worn
Stage 3 - You will never shake the hand of a stranger again
UK Stage 1 April/May 2021 (hopefully) Stage 2 March 2022
Europe/US Stage 1 September 21. Stage 2 July 22
Africa/India - Many years for stage 1.
The only way to end it is by vaccine. And that comes with a supply/distribution set of issues. But once it is applied to a good % of a population things will improve in that population.
Travelling abroad will be a concern. EG going on a cruise will require a proof of vaccine withing 6 months travellings. Same going to US/Europe/UAE/Australia.
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sorry Tony but that’s a dream you had. The vaccine will only be good for 6-9 months. The virus will continue to mutate therefore your vaccine will need to change yearly. I think many aspects of life have changed and will not go back to how they were.
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"How dare you trivialise that with your sneering remark about a war 70 years ago."
Sneering ? No.
Perspective ? Yes.
Neither situation negates the other. They are both unfortunate shit shows aren't they ?
What we can change is our personal response to the situation. There is no mandated response that says we must all feel the same about the same things.
If I was to follow "the script", I'd probably be a wreck due to family issues.
I choose not to, and "compartmentalise".
To realise how lucky I am, all things considered. To compare how my grandparents had it, compared to what I have to endure.
That's not sneering. That's me bitch-slapping myself and saying "You ain't got nothing to worry about."
Your ad hominem comment about sneering is misplaced, unwarranted, and wasn't invited in to my own personal reflection.
I think you are better than that.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I doubt any meaningful change will begin until September at least. There may be some easing of restrictions before then but putting such controls behind us for good doesn’t seem likely until the most vulnerable in society have been vaccinated and there’s real-world and lasting evidence of them being safe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Heard yesterday that by February they are hoping to give the vaccine to 1 million people a week and they are going to give 35 million people the vaccine so without needing a calculator from Woolworths I reckon it’s going to take 35 weeks at least before we see a MAJOR change back to normality |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
"Heard yesterday that by February they are hoping to give the vaccine to 1 million people a week and they are going to give 35 million people the vaccine so without needing a calculator from Woolworths I reckon it’s going to take 35 weeks at least before we see a MAJOR change back to normality"
That is assuming they can get the glass phials to put the vaccine in, production is currently at the rate of 400.000 a week and that is at full stretch. |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"Would agree with most that it will be late summer / autumn.
Folk should read the smallprint if booking a flight / holiday, despite the ads on TV etc."
Like the ryanair advert saying "Jab and go" .. unbelievable really. |
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"Would agree with most that it will be late summer / autumn.
Folk should read the smallprint if booking a flight / holiday, despite the ads on TV etc.
Like the ryanair advert saying "Jab and go" .. unbelievable really. "
that advert is, ridiculous,. What kind of message is it sending out to people. Have the jab and hey presto normality instantly returns,. It should be removed or reworded |
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"Would agree with most that it will be late summer / autumn.
Folk should read the smallprint if booking a flight / holiday, despite the ads on TV etc.
Like the ryanair advert saying "Jab and go" .. unbelievable really. "
On their small print it actually says there is a fee to rebook.
You can guarantee that will cost more than the original ticket cost |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"Would agree with most that it will be late summer / autumn.
Folk should read the smallprint if booking a flight / holiday, despite the ads on TV etc.
Like the ryanair advert saying "Jab and go" .. unbelievable really.
On their small print it actually says there is a fee to rebook.
You can guarantee that will cost more than the original ticket cost "
No surprises there with ryanair tbh. |
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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago
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A year.
For the simple reason we rely on others to get us through.
Every person who manipukates rules for their own needs risks contaminating others.
There will be a delay on packaging the vaccine and deploying it.
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"Recovery will be led by the vaccine roll out and any mutations by the virus.
Stage 1 will be a drop in death rates, hospital admissions and infections. As the vaccine is applied to the over 50, the death rate and hospital admissions will fall. Stage 2: Infections will continue until everyone under 50 is vaccinated. Stage 3: There will still be infection either from those that refuse the vaccine or those arriving in the UK carrying the virus and becoming ill.
So stage 1 will see lock downs end and restrictions eased.,
Stage 2 - Social distancing will ease, stadiums will be full. Face masks need not be worn
Stage 3 - You will never shake the hand of a stranger again
UK Stage 1 April/May 2021 (hopefully) Stage 2 March 2022
Europe/US Stage 1 September 21. Stage 2 July 22
Africa/India - Many years for stage 1.
The only way to end it is by vaccine. And that comes with a supply/distribution set of issues. But once it is applied to a good % of a population things will improve in that population.
Travelling abroad will be a concern. EG going on a cruise will require a proof of vaccine withing 6 months travellings. Same going to US/Europe/UAE/Australia.
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Sounds a fair timeline to me and probably about right |
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By *mmixtapeCouple
over a year ago
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We will probably have a break from lockdown in spring, they will loosen restrictions and try to save the economy, but I think it will cause a third smaller wave meaning we will be at new normal probably late 21 early 22
I'm not hopeful |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
the land of saints & sinners |
All depends on what you now regard as normal.
Social distancing and face masks will become common place and won’t be seen as odd. Shrinking of the high street retail will continue at pace with online offerings increasingly becoming a major focus of all retailers. As working from home will grow as business will downsize their office footprint. People will move out from cities as there is no longer the requirement to live within an hour or so commute of your place of work.
Some countries will impose mandatory vaccination requirements for travellers like having a yellow fever vaccination.
There will be more variants of this virus and there will be more pandemics of different viruses.
I have personally experienced this working from home shift. I was made redundant at the start of the first lockdown but landed a new role within a couple of weeks, my interviews were all held online.
I travelled up to the office once to meet the hiring manager (socially distanced) in person and be given a laptop and other equipment. The office is nearly a 4 hour drive away. AlI dealings that I have with team members are by video calls. I’m not expected to visit the office until Easter at the earliest if at all.
Though not every job or everyone can work from home.
Return to a pre 2020 normal .... No
Post 2020 normal ..... yes
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Depend what you are calling normal big offices in London never
Theater needs tourists American and Asian 2023/4
Long hall travel for UK 2023
Pubs clubs open 2022
Shopes etc open end of 2021
Seeing family end of 2021
And all of that is if there is enough vaccine
Just seeing realistic finished winding up a company to day so that's 32 years of work gone all but keeping what I could but it's time we where all more realistic.
Looked at a holiday with TUI today and thay can't Garnett a flight to Lanzarote for end of April 2021? |
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"All depends on what you now regard as normal.
Social distancing and face masks will become common place and won’t be seen as odd. Shrinking of the high street retail will continue at pace with online offerings increasingly becoming a major focus of all retailers. As working from home will grow as business will downsize their office footprint. People will move out from cities as there is no longer the requirement to live within an hour or so commute of your place of work.
Some countries will impose mandatory vaccination requirements for travellers like having a yellow fever vaccination.
There will be more variants of this virus and there will be more pandemics of different viruses.
I have personally experienced this working from home shift. I was made redundant at the start of the first lockdown but landed a new role within a couple of weeks, my interviews were all held online.
I travelled up to the office once to meet the hiring manager (socially distanced) in person and be given a laptop and other equipment. The office is nearly a 4 hour drive away. AlI dealings that I have with team members are by video calls. I’m not expected to visit the office until Easter at the earliest if at all.
Though not every job or everyone can work from home.
Return to a pre 2020 normal .... No
Post 2020 normal ..... yes
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And if no one needed city office space pension pots will suffer as lots are invested in city offices and shopping centres so look out for retirement at 70 |
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When will it all be over?
Well they tell us that herd immunity kicks in when 60% of the population become (one way or another) immune.
So with a population of 68 million that would be when around 40 million are immune.
At the moment 2.5 million have already had/got covid and around 1 million have been vaccinated, 36.5 million to go.
Current infection rate is 50,000 (ish) per day (350,000 per week) and the government say they are going to vaccinate 1 million per week. Total 1.35 million per week
Divide 36.5 miilon by 1.35 million and you get 27 weeks.
So it will all be over on the 10th July 2021. I can't really tell you if it will be in the morning or the afternoon but it is a Saturday. |
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over a year ago
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We should see improvements show by March in the reduction of infections.
By the summer we will have taken major steps forward.
Will we be totaly free ever or will it become a weakend infection our bodys can handle. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not this year, I do not think they will ever get rid of the virus as it will keep mutating as the first has.
We will get to a manageable level I think and just go from there. |
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Things should ease by Easter, but will be early summer before normality resumes. The expected post Christmas spike is starting coupled with the colder weather bringing other respiratory issues it won't be next week for sure. As the vaccines roll out slowly things will improve. Patience, although thin now, will see us through! |
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By *ucianpoundCouple
over a year ago
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"When will it all be over?
Well they tell us that herd immunity kicks in when 60% of the population become (one way or another) immune.
So with a population of 68 million that would be when around 40 million are immune.
At the moment 2.5 million have already had/got covid and around 1 million have been vaccinated, 36.5 million to go.
Current infection rate is 50,000 (ish) per day (350,000 per week) and the government say they are going to vaccinate 1 million per week. Total 1.35 million per week
Divide 36.5 miilon by 1.35 million and you get 27 weeks.
So it will all be over on the 10th July 2021. I can't really tell you if it will be in the morning or the afternoon but it is a Saturday. "
So with the English variant and the South African one and the two or three other vaccine resistant mutations that will crop up next year and not forgetting the outbreak of COVID-20 and perhaps -21 and adding compound interest I’m pretty confident that we shall be out of it in time for tea on 2nd June 2025, it’s a Monday by the way, Woopee! |
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It is never going to go back to what it was.
There's always likely to be some kind of limitations, restrictions and we need to look to adapt rather than think we are having what it was before.
(bit like when some people expected brexit to throw us back to how it was before we joined the EU.. ??) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Things will get better this year . But for everything to get back to normal , I cant see that this year . I think spring 2022. Thee are simply to meny people on planet Earth . But we should be ok the poorest countries tho there screwed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Never. Unless enough people demand it and see it put into action.
Its like anything in life many things have changed and some are for the better and some are for the worse.
So history dictates that things will level out eventually and certain things will remain and others consigned to history.
As always - and people dislike this truth being mentioned - the ones with the most 'clout' will shout loudest and get things how they want... so they can make the most money out it. The bigger the catastrophe the more money can be made. |
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"Never. Unless enough people demand it and see it put into action.
Its like anything in life many things have changed and some are for the better and some are for the worse.
So history dictates that things will level out eventually and certain things will remain and others consigned to history.
As always - and people dislike this truth being mentioned - the ones with the most 'clout' will shout loudest and get things how they want... so they can make the most money out it. The bigger the catastrophe the more money can be made. "
Oooooo what's the truth? Do share, we all are keen to know this secret "truth" that only special people seem to be in possession of.... |
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"When will it all be over?
Well they tell us that herd immunity kicks in when 60% of the population become (one way or another) immune.
So with a population of 68 million that would be when around 40 million are immune.
At the moment 2.5 million have already had/got covid and around 1 million have been vaccinated, 36.5 million to go.
Current infection rate is 50,000 (ish) per day (350,000 per week) and the government say they are going to vaccinate 1 million per week. Total 1.35 million per week
Divide 36.5 miilon by 1.35 million and you get 27 weeks.
So it will all be over on the 10th July 2021. I can't really tell you if it will be in the morning or the afternoon but it is a Saturday.
So with the English variant and the South African one and the two or three other vaccine resistant mutations that will crop up next year and not forgetting the outbreak of COVID-20 and perhaps -21 and adding compound interest I’m pretty confident that we shall be out of it in time for tea on 2nd June 2025, it’s a Monday by the way, Woopee!"
Not far off the World Bank's end date of March 2025.
Covid21 for this year
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Mid Summer for UK.
I am a dual citizen of UK and USA. I’m currently in the USA due to the fact I can some what live a normal-ish life and fortunate to be able to.
Myself and husband have both had COVID back in June and we’re told the antibodies last around 3 months. We had antibodies tests last week and both still have them 7 months on. We are both due to get the moderna vaccine in a weeks, time due to the nature of our work.
We have been to a few clubs since July and they are always packed. We went to the Xmas party a couple of weeks ago and it was just like COVID never had been here. I do admit the state I live in has low rises in cases and we feel comfortable knowing that the likely hood of being reinfected isn’t as high as it would be if we hadn’t had COVID.
Some states are in a bad way but a state here is like a country in it’s self, all have different rules and regulations.
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do you mean back to how things were? as there was nothing normal about the time leading up to the pandemic to be fair. personally i hope we veer away from the direction we were heading previous to covid. it's part of what has put us so deeply in trouble now in my opinion. |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
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"do you mean back to how things were? as there was nothing normal about the time leading up to the pandemic to be fair. personally i hope we veer away from the direction we were heading previous to covid. it's part of what has put us so deeply in trouble now in my opinion."
The polarization of everything will continue om afraid. Covid i fear has only accelerated the processes. |
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"do you mean back to how things were? as there was nothing normal about the time leading up to the pandemic to be fair. personally i hope we veer away from the direction we were heading previous to covid. it's part of what has put us so deeply in trouble now in my opinion.
The polarization of everything will continue om afraid. Covid i fear has only accelerated the processes. "
only time will tell |
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By *oxesMan
over a year ago
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I think the need for a second of a side hustle will be relatively common. I know they have been saying this since the 00's but the need has been accelerated by the pandemic.
But this was happening leading up to lockdown. I was at a sports science conference where the members of BASES were saying expect people to have side hustles as it demonstrate they have experience and the work ethic needed.
Side hustles allow normally the supplementing of an income however a safety net for when you do get laid off or furloughed.
With the milenials apparently wanting greater flexibility the death of the 9-5 job, 20hours being the new fulltime and work being increasingly remote making side hustles more viable.
What most people don't say not all especially online second hustles will be successful, depending on how you define success. Although passive income it's a thing out had to be worked for and It can take years to even make money, weather that owning a YouTube channel, Onlyfans or selling artistic services on 5iver etc.
What worries me is that the vast majority will only make a small amount income if any and these roles are mainly service minded. What happened if we stop buying from one another? |
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over a year ago
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Tier 5 to be ruled out soon
Retail non essential shops will not be opening any time in january aparently tier 4 to remain in place longer as virus is out of control they want a full national lock down in next 24 hours, according to news |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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2022 really cant see us getting a grip on things this year . Nobody is listening to this government anymore (which is no ones fault but theirs) which doesn't help but understandable  |
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"Never. Unless enough people demand it and see it put into action.
Its like anything in life many things have changed and some are for the better and some are for the worse.
So history dictates that things will level out eventually and certain things will remain and others consigned to history.
As always - and people dislike this truth being mentioned - the ones with the most 'clout' will shout loudest and get things how they want... so they can make the most money out it. The bigger the catastrophe the more money can be made.
Oooooo what's the truth? Do share, we all are keen to know this secret "truth" that only special people seem to be in possession of...."
The 'truth'? Its in my original message. Its all about the money. Always is. Always has been. And, unless something drastically changes, it always will be.
Certain people/institutions have done VERY well out of 2020 despite the general consensus of the rest of us righting it off.
Its no secret. Its hidden in plain sight and once you see it you can never unsee it. |
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