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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Surprisingly no one has put up the list of which order everyone is going to get the vaccine...
So here is the vaccine priority list..
Care home residents and careers...
Those aged 80 and over....
Frontline healthcare workers...
People aged 75 to 79....
Clinically vulnerable people...
People aged 70 to 74...
People aged 65 to 69...
People aged 16 to 64 with underlying conditions....
People aged 60 to 64...
People aged 55 to 59...
People aged 50 to 54....
People under 50............
There you go.... here to help  |
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"Surprisingly no one has put up the list of which order everyone is going to get the vaccine...
So here is the vaccine priority list..
Care home residents and careers...
Those aged 80 and over....
Frontline healthcare workers...
People aged 75 to 79....
Clinically vulnerable people...
People aged 70 to 74...
People aged 65 to 69...
People aged 16 to 64 with underlying conditions....
People aged 60 to 64...
People aged 55 to 59...
People aged 50 to 54....
People under 50............
There you go.... here to help "
Didn't they change it to NHS staff first ?
Staff in Belfast hospitals have already received letters they are getting it and who's first |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
So just on the news
At the moment we have 800,000 doses, so enough for 400,000. In England alone, in the first group, there are about 380,000 people, so it will take a while, until the other vaccines are passed, to get through everyone, but still good |
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"Surprisingly no one has put up the list of which order everyone is going to get the vaccine...
So here is the vaccine priority list..
Care home residents and careers...
Those aged 80 and over....
Frontline healthcare workers...
People aged 75 to 79....
Clinically vulnerable people...
People aged 70 to 74...
People aged 65 to 69...
People aged 16 to 64 with underlying conditions....
People aged 60 to 64...
People aged 55 to 59...
People aged 50 to 54....
People under 50............
There you go.... here to help
Didn't they change it to NHS staff first ?
Staff in Belfast hospitals have already received letters they are getting it and who's first"
As far as I'm aware as relatives in the nhs,the Pfizer/BioNTech can only be stored at -70 and can only travel up to four times,so going straight to the hospitals,so nhs staff will get that one first
The other two are easier to store and can be more mobile,so they can be used for carehomes and in the community |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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Two older family members who will be offered it as one of the first after NHS and carers, feel like they are guinea pigs.
They are both separately worried about reactions and feels there is little care if they are killed off.
This is not necessarily my opinion just how they are feeling. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Two older family members who will be offered it as one of the first after NHS and carers, feel like they are guinea pigs.
They are both separately worried about reactions and feels there is little care if they are killed off.
This is not necessarily my opinion just how they are feeling."
I understand that, my dad is 90 and is apprehensive, but I think he will still have it. |
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By *ent57Man
over a year ago
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… just playing devil's advocate here … let's say a 70 year old is very apprehensive and refuses an have the vaccination when invited - will they then be moved to the back of the queue until others more willing to accept the jab have had their opportunity? |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"… just playing devil's advocate here … let's say a 70 year old is very apprehensive and refuses an have the vaccination when invited - will they then be moved to the back of the queue until others more willing to accept the jab have had their opportunity?"
Yeah, tricky one, I don't know the answer but I guess he will lose his slot and may well go to the back of the queue. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service"
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory? |
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"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service"
My mate tripped getting on a bus, he'll never get in an airplane again. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
My mate tripped getting on a bus, he'll never get in an airplane again."
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"So just on the news
At the moment we have 800,000 doses, so enough for 400,000. In England alone, in the first group, there are about 380,000 people, so it will take a while, until the other vaccines are passed, to get through everyone, but still good "
No i think you will find its enough for 80,000 as the second jab is 3 weeks after in which time their will be more delivered. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"So just on the news
At the moment we have 800,000 doses, so enough for 400,000. In England alone, in the first group, there are about 380,000 people, so it will take a while, until the other vaccines are passed, to get through everyone, but still good No i think you will find its enough for 80,000 as the second jab is 3 weeks after in which time their will be more delivered."
ment 800,000  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"So just on the news
At the moment we have 800,000 doses, so enough for 400,000. In England alone, in the first group, there are about 380,000 people, so it will take a while, until the other vaccines are passed, to get through everyone, but still good No i think you will find its enough for 80,000 as the second jab is 3 weeks after in which time their will be more delivered."
Ok I just heard we are expecting 800,000 doses next week.. |
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first."
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate - |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate - "
No I'm looking at it from a public health aspect rather than a 'who's to blame' aspect. It makes sense to hit the worst hit areas first if you're trying to get back to some kind of normality. |
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate -
No I'm looking at it from a public health aspect rather than a 'who's to blame' aspect. It makes sense to hit the worst hit areas first if you're trying to get back to some kind of normality."
The list is the list ..put together by experts, i for one think its spot on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate -
No I'm looking at it from a public health aspect rather than a 'who's to blame' aspect. It makes sense to hit the worst hit areas first if you're trying to get back to some kind of normality.
The list is the list ..put together by experts, i for one think its spot on."
As I said in my original post, I have no issues with the list and order of priority, my point is about roll out geographically |
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate -
No I'm looking at it from a public health aspect rather than a 'who's to blame' aspect. It makes sense to hit the worst hit areas first if you're trying to get back to some kind of normality.
The list is the list ..put together by experts, i for one think its spot on.
As I said in my original post, I have no issues with the list and order of priority, my point is about roll out geographically"
Infection levels are changing weekly.I dont see how that would work.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate -
No I'm looking at it from a public health aspect rather than a 'who's to blame' aspect. It makes sense to hit the worst hit areas first if you're trying to get back to some kind of normality.
The list is the list ..put together by experts, i for one think its spot on.
As I said in my original post, I have no issues with the list and order of priority, my point is about roll out geographically
Infection levels are changing weekly.I dont see how that would work.
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You could use the Tier levels as s starting point |
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"Surprisingly no one has put up the list of which order everyone is going to get the vaccine...
So here is the vaccine priority list..
Care home residents and careers...
Those aged 80 and over....
Frontline healthcare workers...
People aged 75 to 79....
Clinically vulnerable people...
People aged 70 to 74...
People aged 65 to 69...
People aged 16 to 64 with underlying conditions....
People aged 60 to 64...
People aged 55 to 59...
People aged 50 to 54....
People under 50............
There you go.... here to help "
I was curious as to how the logistics of the "two jabs" will work. Will they give both doses to each group, or will they just get through as many as possible in the two (or four) weeks before moving onto the second jab.
It makes little difference to me at the moment, as I'm under 50 I will probably not be offered it for at least 6 months.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
My mate tripped getting on a bus, he'll never get in an airplane again.
'rushed' was the operative word, don't bother replying to this as I find you boring and smarmy and narcissistic, have you actually replied to someone without being sarcastic?
I think if you actually research your information you will find it wasn't rushed, it was untested
Thanks 
I gather the swine flu vaccination was a totally different method of vaccination as well - (Google it perhaps)"
I did, it was rushed, the NHS were given no information about the vaccine, a drug called pandemrix,apparently they didn't have a choice if they could take it or not, maybe you should Google it |
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"Two older family members who will be offered it as one of the first after NHS and carers, feel like they are guinea pigs.
They are both separately worried about reactions and feels there is little care if they are killed off.
This is not necessarily my opinion just how they are feeling."
Understand that completely, my parents are split one says yep let’s get it over with going to die one day, the other very much more wary of taking it. |
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate - "
Not necessarily idiots but could be more densely populated places as one example, not all infections are down to individuals being reckless or not following the rules |
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate -
Not necessarily idiots but could be more densely populated places as one example, not all infections are down to individuals being reckless or not following the rules "
Don't you know that you can only catch it if you aren't following the rules? |
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"So just on the news
At the moment we have 800,000 doses, so enough for 400,000. In England alone, in the first group, there are about 380,000 people, so it will take a while, until the other vaccines are passed, to get through everyone, but still good No i think you will find its enough for 80,000 as the second jab is 3 weeks after in which time their will be more delivered."
That would be the most sensible assuming the second delivery would arrive in time to do the second dose rather than using half now.
I'm suppose only pfizer can answer that one,they will have worked out the numbers |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They're saying on the Welsh news that they are not going to be able to transport the vaccine into care homes due to the need to store it at such a low temperature
So unsure as yet how they will manage the vaccination of all care home residents, unless they will wait for one of the other vaccines that can be stored differently.
I'm a care home worker so am technically top of the list but we have not had any official communication regarding it yet from PHW or the LHB or our employer |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"They're saying on the Welsh news that they are not going to be able to transport the vaccine into care homes due to the need to store it at such a low temperature
So unsure as yet how they will manage the vaccination of all care home residents, unless they will wait for one of the other vaccines that can be stored differently.
I'm a care home worker so am technically top of the list but we have not had any official communication regarding it yet from PHW or the LHB or our employer "
I think it's more of a transportation problem. They are coming in boxes of 975, so I think they're starting in hospitals. |
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"How much time has to pass between jabs again?
Is it 21days?  "
plus you can't have close contact with anyone for a further 28 days after the second dose. This was, on the news at lunchtime. Matt hancock also said this morning that even with the vaccine, restrictions will remain in effect (ie. The wearing of masks and social distancing and more,) for some considerable time possibly some relaxing in the summer |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"How much time has to pass between jabs again?
Is it 21days? plus you can't have close contact with anyone for a further 28 days after the second dose. This was, on the news at lunchtime. Matt hancock also said this morning that even with the vaccine, restrictions will remain in effect (ie. The wearing of masks and social distancing and more,) for some considerable time possibly some relaxing in the summer "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They're saying on the Welsh news that they are not going to be able to transport the vaccine into care homes due to the need to store it at such a low temperature
So unsure as yet how they will manage the vaccination of all care home residents, unless they will wait for one of the other vaccines that can be stored differently.
I'm a care home worker so am technically top of the list but we have not had any official communication regarding it yet from PHW or the LHB or our employer
I think it's more of a transportation problem. They are coming in boxes of 975, so I think they're starting in hospitals."
Yes, so care home residents probably won't be first, as per original priority list. Unless they have some crazy plans to transport them all (residents) to vaccination sites at hospitals to receive the vaccine , which I highly doubt would be practical due to the restricted mobility and high level of needs of some, and the level of staff and suitable transport that would be needed   |
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"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory?"
Many including me decline the flu jab. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"They're saying on the Welsh news that they are not going to be able to transport the vaccine into care homes due to the need to store it at such a low temperature
So unsure as yet how they will manage the vaccination of all care home residents, unless they will wait for one of the other vaccines that can be stored differently.
I'm a care home worker so am technically top of the list but we have not had any official communication regarding it yet from PHW or the LHB or our employer
I think it's more of a transportation problem. They are coming in boxes of 975, so I think they're starting in hospitals.
Yes, so care home residents probably won't be first, as per original priority list. Unless they have some crazy plans to transport them all (residents) to vaccination sites at hospitals to receive the vaccine , which I highly doubt would be practical due to the restricted mobility and high level of needs of some, and the level of staff and suitable transport that would be needed "
I think they'll be close behind though. No you couldn't possibly transport them anywhere, bless them. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory?
Many including me decline the flu jab."
May I ask why that is? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory?
Many including me decline the flu jab."
I have never bothered with a flu jab either
I will probably end up having both now though
Not for my own sake as I am not bothered personally, but if I have an opportunity be part of the solution to all this shit then they can jab me with whatever they like |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory?
Many including me decline the flu jab.
I have never bothered with a flu jab either
I will probably end up having both now though
Not for my own sake as I am not bothered personally, but if I have an opportunity be part of the solution to all this shit then they can jab me with whatever they like"
Bless you |
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"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory?
Many including me decline the flu jab.
May I ask why that is? "
Yes, I have had illness following it, the flu vaccines ingredients are based on the year before flu strain.
The healthcare trust puts pressure on us to have it, I won't have pressure put on me.
I think there is an overmedicalisation of illness. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory?
Many including me decline the flu jab.
May I ask why that is?
Yes, I have had illness following it, the flu vaccines ingredients are based on the year before flu strain.
The healthcare trust puts pressure on us to have it, I won't have pressure put on me.
I think there is an overmedicalisation of illness."
Oh I'm sorry to hear that and understand your decision, thank you for sharing that x |
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I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend "
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk |
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The rich will get priority for the covid injections.
Those after the age of 55 wont as thats the reason why they was never tested in there tests.
The working class will get the injection as britain needs to make money asap.
Its simple economics rich as they have the money, followed by the working class as we need them to make a profit.
The rest we will get too. |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk"
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong"
Yes and no and sort of
People who cannot be vaccinated will always be at risk.
Even if you are vaccinated it's no guarantee that you can't catch it and infect others, you just won't get sick and die (hopefully)
So shaming people into something they don't want is not acceptable or helpful. |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong"
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness. |
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"The rich will get priority for the covid injections.
Those after the age of 55 wont as thats the reason why they was never tested in there tests.
The working class will get the injection as britain needs to make money asap.
Its simple economics rich as they have the money, followed by the working class as we need them to make a profit.
The rest we will get too."
Look, I really don't want to offend you but that's the worst bullshit lies I've seen this week, you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself for that post.
Sorry mods ... |
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"The rich will get priority for the covid injections.
Those after the age of 55 wont as thats the reason why they was never tested in there tests.
The working class will get the injection as britain needs to make money asap.
Its simple economics rich as they have the money, followed by the working class as we need them to make a profit.
The rest we will get too."
Sources for your claims? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness."
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
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Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx"
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness? |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?"
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today. |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today. "
That is my understanding of it to, it doesn’t stop us catching the virus but a 70-95% chance of our bodies having the ability to fight it, it is not immunity and at present it is unknown whether the vaccinated when they catch it can pass it in to others. |
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"I shall be pricked first
So one of the guinee pigs to test the longterm effects if they have any,fingers crossed no adverse reactions "
One of the lesser known and never spoken about on tele, side effects is it makes your willy two inches longer, 2cm wider and take 15minutes longer to cum. Watch out for the stampede. |
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But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today. "
As I understand it yes. Those that can't have the vaccination unfortunately will remain vunerable, as the vaccination doesn't make you immune, and as yet, isn't known if it prevents you from spreading it. It gives the recipient protection from the illness becoming serious or fatal. |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today.
That is my understanding of it to, it doesn’t stop us catching the virus but a 70-95% chance of our bodies having the ability to fight it, it is not immunity and at present it is unknown whether the vaccinated when they catch it can pass it in to others. "
Thankyou for that
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So one of the guinee pigs to test the longterm effects if they have any,fingers crossed no adverse reactions
One of the lesser known and never spoken about on tele, side effects is it makes your willy two inches longer, 2cm wider and take 15minutes longer to cum. Watch out for the stampede. "
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But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today.
As I understand it yes. Those that can't have the vaccination unfortunately will remain vunerable, as the vaccination doesn't make you immune, and as yet, isn't known if it prevents you from spreading it. It gives the recipient protection from the illness becoming serious or fatal."
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today.
That is my understanding of it to, it doesn’t stop us catching the virus but a 70-95% chance of our bodies having the ability to fight it, it is not immunity and at present it is unknown whether the vaccinated when they catch it can pass it in to others.
Thankyou for that
It's interesting to know, as tbh I was under the impression care staff were being encouraged to have it to "protect others" when in fact it may well offer no protection to anyone other than the person receiving it? "
There is also the point that the more people having the vaccine, the quicker herd immunity will develop. |
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Well 2 weeks ago..historic news came through in the Military Veterans site..the vaccines that were given to those serving in the 1st Gulf war were deemed illegal...the troops were used as guinea pigs,lots are dying through dementia and lots of other causes,children were born with abnormal growths..and so on,this is FACT.
An 8 page document has served on the Government,but it is the Government of the traitor Blair and Brown who are being held to account.
I will not have the vaccine,is it safe? Who knows,it is the only the Governments day so that it is. |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today.
That is my understanding of it to, it doesn’t stop us catching the virus but a 70-95% chance of our bodies having the ability to fight it, it is not immunity and at present it is unknown whether the vaccinated when they catch it can pass it in to others.
Thankyou for that
It's interesting to know, as tbh I was under the impression care staff were being encouraged to have it to "protect others" when in fact it may well offer no protection to anyone other than the person receiving it?
There is also the point that the more people having the vaccine, the quicker herd immunity will develop."
Can I ask how? If it doesn't stop people contracting it or spreading it? How is herd immunity acheived? |
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"Surprisingly no one has put up the list of which order everyone is going to get the vaccine...
So here is the vaccine priority list..
Care home residents and careers...
Those aged 80 and over....
Frontline healthcare workers...
People aged 75 to 79....
Clinically vulnerable people...
People aged 70 to 74...
People aged 65 to 69...
People aged 16 to 64 with underlying conditions....
People aged 60 to 64...
People aged 55 to 59...
People aged 50 to 54....
People under 50............
There you go.... here to help
Didn't they change it to NHS staff first ?
Staff in Belfast hospitals have already received letters they are getting it and who's first"
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"Well 2 weeks ago..historic news came through in the Military Veterans site..the vaccines that were given to those serving in the 1st Gulf war were deemed illegal...the troops were used as guinea pigs,lots are dying through dementia and lots of other causes,children were born with abnormal growths..and so on,this is FACT.
An 8 page document has served on the Government,but it is the Government of the traitor Blair and Brown who are being held to account.
I will not have the vaccine,is it safe? Who knows,it is the only the Governments day so that it is."
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today.
That is my understanding of it to, it doesn’t stop us catching the virus but a 70-95% chance of our bodies having the ability to fight it, it is not immunity and at present it is unknown whether the vaccinated when they catch it can pass it in to others.
Thankyou for that
It's interesting to know, as tbh I was under the impression care staff were being encouraged to have it to "protect others" when in fact it may well offer no protection to anyone other than the person receiving it? "
Interesting so why do you think the government has spent millions on ordering it on the advice of the top medical professionals in their field?, conundrum, believe the posters on here or doctors who have dedicated the best years of their lives to the betterment of mankind. It's not rocket science, interbalistic weapons of mass destruction (now that's Rocket science). |
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"The rich will get priority for the covid injections.
Those after the age of 55 wont as thats the reason why they was never tested in there tests.
The working class will get the injection as britain needs to make money asap.
Its simple economics rich as they have the money, followed by the working class as we need them to make a profit.
The rest we will get too.
Sources for your claims?"
simple answer find yourself
Just an opinion.
The elderly was sent home from hospital with covid infection many died through it.
They never tested the injection on over 55s
New report accuses Tories of bias in putting London in Tier 2 whilst many are forced into tier 3.
Sex, ethnicity and wealth could help determine who is prioritised for a Covid-19 vaccine, under proposals being discussed by the Government.
If based on an algorithm like the students fiasco.
The JVCI has produced an 11-tier priority vaccination list as an "interim recommendation". The list is based largely on age, but also considers occupation and pre-existing medical conditions, the Telegraph reported.
The Government may even use an algorithm developed by academics at Oxford University, which factors in a wide range of variables also including ethnicity, sex, deprivation, smoking status, BMI and current medications.
The government has a long list of prioritys
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today.
That is my understanding of it to, it doesn’t stop us catching the virus but a 70-95% chance of our bodies having the ability to fight it, it is not immunity and at present it is unknown whether the vaccinated when they catch it can pass it in to others.
Thankyou for that
It's interesting to know, as tbh I was under the impression care staff were being encouraged to have it to "protect others" when in fact it may well offer no protection to anyone other than the person receiving it?
There is also the point that the more people having the vaccine, the quicker herd immunity will develop.
Can I ask how? If it doesn't stop people contracting it or spreading it? How is herd immunity acheived? "
As the death rate goes down through it giving the protection, the virus weakens. Think about the illnesses that have been vaccinated against for years, the death rate from them has lowered and lowered as herd immunity has developed. |
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I would have liked to see how long they predict it will take them to work through each stage. We already know the immunisation process takes about 2 months (two jabs a month apart and then it only takes takes effect a month later). So would need to add 2 months to the predicted end date of everyone getting vaxxed to know when a relative normality can resume |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today.
That is my understanding of it to, it doesn’t stop us catching the virus but a 70-95% chance of our bodies having the ability to fight it, it is not immunity and at present it is unknown whether the vaccinated when they catch it can pass it in to others.
Thankyou for that
It's interesting to know, as tbh I was under the impression care staff were being encouraged to have it to "protect others" when in fact it may well offer no protection to anyone other than the person receiving it?
There is also the point that the more people having the vaccine, the quicker herd immunity will develop.
Can I ask how? If it doesn't stop people contracting it or spreading it? How is herd immunity acheived?
As the death rate goes down through it giving the protection, the virus weakens. Think about the illnesses that have been vaccinated against for years, the death rate from them has lowered and lowered as herd immunity has developed."
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An 8 page document has served on the Government,but it is the Government of the traitor Blair and Brown who are being held to account.
I will not have the vaccine,is it safe? Who knows,it is the only the Governments day so that it is."
So have you ever taken an antibiotic because people said nothing good could come from injecting people with something made from a growth on a piece of bread, had you been around then millions of people over more than a century would have died from simple infections, you really are nothing like your profile name surgest. |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend
Because some people cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons
People who *choose* not to be vaccinated put those who *can't* be vaccinated (but would if they could) at risk
That's how I see it anyway
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't know where people are getting this immune from? The vaccine does not give you immunity, it allows the body to fight the virus thus giving protection from it becoming a fatal illness.
So telling us to get vaccinated to protect the vulnerable people we look after is incorrect? Xx
Not sure of your logic with that? If you get vaccinated, and the vulnerable you look after get vaccinated... You've both got protection from it becoming a serious illness?
But those vulnerable who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons get no protection from us being vaccinated? I. E, we can still contract it and pass it on to them, even if we have been vaccinated? Excuse my ignorance on the subject, not something I've even given thought to until today.
That is my understanding of it to, it doesn’t stop us catching the virus but a 70-95% chance of our bodies having the ability to fight it, it is not immunity and at present it is unknown whether the vaccinated when they catch it can pass it in to others.
Thankyou for that
It's interesting to know, as tbh I was under the impression care staff were being encouraged to have it to "protect others" when in fact it may well offer no protection to anyone other than the person receiving it?
There is also the point that the more people having the vaccine, the quicker herd immunity will develop.
Can I ask how? If it doesn't stop people contracting it or spreading it? How is herd immunity acheived?
As the death rate goes down through it giving the protection, the virus weakens. Think about the illnesses that have been vaccinated against for years, the death rate from them has lowered and lowered as herd immunity has developed.
I get you
As I said, vaccines, immunlogy etc not something I've ever taken notice of as in how it all actually works. Diolch "
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If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
Asking for a friend "
You seem to have missed the point completely. Because the vaccine isn't 100% effective Sam and Elland don't know that they are immune. The reality is that unless technology changes we will never have this certainty.
The only way that Sam and Ella will ever have a degree of confidence will be when enough people have had the vaccine and the level of infection is much lower than currently. Even with a high uptake of the vaccine this is probably going to take at least 12 months.
If there isn't sufficient uptake of the vaccine ( I think it needs to be 90% plus) we are likely to be under some of the current restrictions for a very long time. |
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"I do understand the name calling of individuals who cannot or will not be able to have the vaccine but I'm at a loss to find out why people insist on others having the vaccination.
If, as claimed, that the vaccine (taking into account the first, second vaccination and the time lapses) makes people immune from the Covid19 then why should the people who have the injection be concerned in the slightest about the others who say they don't want it or can't have it?
So trying to put this in a way not to be offensive.
Sam and his wife Ella decided they are having the vaccination. After the prescribed amount and time period, they are apparently immune. So if they go into a pub with say 50 other people inside and none of the other customers have had the vaccination, why would it bother Sam and Ella as they're immune?
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You seem to have missed the point completely. Because the vaccine isn't 100% effective Sam and Elland don't know that they are immune. The reality is that unless technology changes we will never have this certainty.
The only way that Sam and Ella will ever have a degree of confidence will be when enough people have had the vaccine and the level of infection is much lower than currently. Even with a high uptake of the vaccine this is probably going to take at least 12 months.
If there isn't sufficient uptake of the vaccine ( I think it needs to be 90% plus) we are likely to be under some of the current restrictions for a very long time."
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL |
"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory?
Many including me decline the flu jab.
May I ask why that is?
Yes, I have had illness following it, the flu vaccines ingredients are based on the year before flu strain.
The healthcare trust puts pressure on us to have it, I won't have pressure put on me.
I think there is an overmedicalisation of illness."
I had the same thing hence why I don't have the flu jab and why I don't want this one either. My immune system and health are pretty good anyway. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL |
"Well 2 weeks ago..historic news came through in the Military Veterans site..the vaccines that were given to those serving in the 1st Gulf war were deemed illegal...the troops were used as guinea pigs,lots are dying through dementia and lots of other causes,children were born with abnormal growths..and so on,this is FACT.
An 8 page document has served on the Government,but it is the Government of the traitor Blair and Brown who are being held to account.
I will not have the vaccine,is it safe? Who knows,it is the only the Governments day so that it is.
So have you ever taken an antibiotic because people said nothing good could come from injecting people with something made from a growth on a piece of bread, had you been around then millions of people over more than a century would have died from simple infections, you really are nothing like your profile name surgest. "
No need to be rude about people's profile names however much you disagree with them. You have your opinion, so does he.  |
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"Surprisingly no one has put up the list of which order everyone is going to get the vaccine...
So here is the vaccine priority list..
Care home residents and careers...
Those aged 80 and over....
Frontline healthcare workers...
People aged 75 to 79....
Clinically vulnerable people...
People aged 70 to 74...
People aged 65 to 69...
People aged 16 to 64 with underlying conditions....
People aged 60 to 64...
People aged 55 to 59...
People aged 50 to 54....
People under 50............
There you go.... here to help "
Currently they are waiting on a judgement about care homes being first on the list, as the vials are packed in cases of several hundred doses, and aren't currently allowed to be split, meaning a care home of several dozen people would waste hundreds of doses. I'm guessing permission will be given to split the packs. |
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"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service"
Yep, myself and several colleagues would rather wait, even with MHRA approval |
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"Well 2 weeks ago..historic news came through in the Military Veterans site..the vaccines that were given to those serving in the 1st Gulf war were deemed illegal...the troops were used as guinea pigs,lots are dying through dementia and lots of other causes,children were born with abnormal growths..and so on,this is FACT.
An 8 page document has served on the Government,but it is the Government of the traitor Blair and Brown who are being held to account.
I will not have the vaccine,is it safe? Who knows,it is the only the Governments day so that it is."
From an article printed in 2014
A spokesman for the MoD said: "We are indebted to all those who served our country in the Gulf Wars and in recognition of this we have full and comprehensive compensation schemes in place for anyone who was injured or fell ill as a result of their service.
"All documents relating to these allegations have been in the public domain for many years."
He said the MoD has repeatedly asked for evidence from people who say the Ministry is covering up information. To date, there had been nothing to support these "unfounded allegations".
Has the evidence been submitted ?
Did I miss something ? |
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"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
I wonder how many will refuse it, as it's not compulsory?
Many including me decline the flu jab.
May I ask why that is?
Yes, I have had illness following it, the flu vaccines ingredients are based on the year before flu strain.
The healthcare trust puts pressure on us to have it, I won't have pressure put on me.
I think there is an overmedicalisation of illness.
I had the same thing hence why I don't have the flu jab and why I don't want this one either. My immune system and health are pretty good anyway. "
The Staff in the health are trust where my daughter works have already been asked if they would have the Pfizer vaccine if it becomes available to them. Around 2% have been advised not to take it due to pregnancy and other conditions. Of the remaining 98% over 90% want it now, 6% said they would rather wait until it has been rolled out further and less than 4% have said no.
The general feeling is that they have seen the impacts of covid and that the vaccine is a no brainer  |
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"A lot of NHS staff will be hesitant to take the vaccine, they remember what happened after having the swine flu jab,a lot of staff developed narcolepsy saying the vaccines were rushed into service
My mate tripped getting on a bus, he'll never get in an airplane again."
Nice accurate comparison to that post, couldn't agree more. |
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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
So you mean the Covidiots get if first cos they would not isolate - "
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"Well 2 weeks ago..historic news came through in the Military Veterans site..the vaccines that were given to those serving in the 1st Gulf war were deemed illegal...the troops were used as guinea pigs,lots are dying through dementia and lots of other causes,children were born with abnormal growths..and so on,this is FACT.
An 8 page document has served on the Government,but it is the Government of the traitor Blair and Brown who are being held to account.
I will not have the vaccine,is it safe? Who knows,it is the only the Governments day so that it is."
It's funny isn't it that someone can say that an 8 page document that has not been reviewed by the experts yet is fact but they don't believe in a vaccine for which more than 20,000 pages of evidence have been reviewed by some of the best scientists in their field. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People do need to be aware that even after having the vaccine they can still pass the virus on to others.
You may be protected from serious infection but you can still infect others.
The question that's still in my mind is, if the virus can still remain in the nasal passage of a host who has had the vaccination, will it really die off or will it always be around?
Can it be traferred to pets, evolve in animals and then back to humans, maybe rendering the vaccine less effective with a mutated form?
Too many unanswered questions for me still. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
That's a good point..."
No that was addressed today, it will not be given to people dependent on where by live but on clinical need. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
That's a good point...
No that was addressed today, it will not be given to people dependent on where by live but on clinical need."
Yes I saw that |
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"Happy with that list generally, the only other thing I'd like to have seen was that list order applied in the highest infection areas first.
That's a good point...
No that was addressed today, it will not be given to people dependent on where by live but on clinical need.
Yes I saw that "
My understanding is the list Fabio posted is phase 1 and the priority list for phase 2 hasn't been decided yet but will probably be done by occupation and ethnicity before being rolled out to everyone else. |
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