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"Do we know what time period we are looking at for the vulnerable to get the vaccine?
I've not watched the news in months so I've no idea.
Thanks
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Not yet its NHS and care homes first, jabs are 21 days apart they have 800,000 to arrive next week, then it comes as it is manufactured |
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over a year ago
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"Do we know what time period we are looking at for the vulnerable to get the vaccine?
I've not watched the news in months so I've no idea.
Thanks
Not yet its NHS and care homes first, jabs are 21 days apart they have 800,000 to arrive next week, then it comes as it is manufactured "
This is great news indeed.
So hopefully in a few months or so?
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"Do we know what time period we are looking at for the vulnerable to get the vaccine?
I've not watched the news in months so I've no idea.
Thanks
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There have been some graphics showing how the roll out will work, most point to all vulnerable groups being vaccinated by Easter. All bloody good news |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"Do we know what time period we are looking at for the vulnerable to get the vaccine?
I've not watched the news in months so I've no idea.
Thanks
Not yet its NHS and care homes first, jabs are 21 days apart they have 800,000 to arrive next week, then it comes as it is manufactured
This is great news indeed.
So hopefully in a few months or so?
The light at the end of the tunnel is shining brighter "
hopefully its not a train coming the other way to smash everything ?? |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
the land of saints & sinners |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately "
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line... |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line..."
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family |
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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago
Leicestershire |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately "
Do you think that is entirely fair. Taking away vital and limit supplies from the one that are in greater need. If we allow this it would be a scramble of the privileged few over the need of the majority. I could easily afford the vaccine for me and all my family next week but what good would it do us. Will not release any of us from the restriction any earlier. We have to get the vulnerable immunised before we will gain our freedoms (for the want of a better word) |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line...
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family "
The NHS quite rightly will get it first .
Care homes and the vulnerable come a close second.
As do over 80's .
You being able to pay doesnt put you on top of the list . |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
Do you think that is entirely fair. Taking away vital and limit supplies from the one that are in greater need. If we allow this it would be a scramble of the privileged few over the need of the majority. I could easily afford the vaccine for me and all my family next week but what good would it do us. Will not release any of us from the restriction any earlier. We have to get the vulnerable immunised before we will gain our freedoms (for the want of a better word) "
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately "
It will be in time. Although if you go abroad you will be able to find it I’m sure. You would be taking a chance unless you find somewhere reputable.
I would rather the vulnerable have first dibs at the moment.
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line...
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
The NHS quite rightly will get it first .
Care homes and the vulnerable come a close second.
As do over 80's .
You being able to pay doesnt put you on top of the list ."
I didn't ask to go top of the list. But the governments track record for rolling things out is poor, why should I let there incompetance push a vaccine for me 6 - 12 months down the line |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line...
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family "
Why can you not pay for it? Wasn't that clearly explained already?
How selfish.
It's 800k doses initially. There would be enough people willing to pay for it who don't fall into the vulnerable category for all the vulnerable people to not be able to get vaccinated.
PS you have no rights. Join the queue in turn.. |
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over a year ago
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately "
It's already been stated that vaccines will not be available privately, they will only be available through the NHS route. |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line...
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
The NHS quite rightly will get it first .
Care homes and the vulnerable come a close second.
As do over 80's .
You being able to pay doesnt put you on top of the list .
I didn't ask to go top of the list. But the governments track record for rolling things out is poor, why should I let there incompetance push a vaccine for me 6 - 12 months down the line "
Just wait your turn like the rest of us, and stop complaining about something that may not happen. |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
Do you think that is entirely fair. Taking away vital and limit supplies from the one that are in greater need. If we allow this it would be a scramble of the privileged few over the need of the majority. I could easily afford the vaccine for me and all my family next week but what good would it do us. Will not release any of us from the restriction any earlier. We have to get the vulnerable immunised before we will gain our freedoms (for the want of a better word) "
It also means that those vulnerable people who haven't really been able to see their families for a year will be able to do so. I usually see my dad 4x a year due to distance. He is vulnerable. I haven't seen him since Xmas 2019. He has pretty much been isolated and on his own. |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line...
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family "
The JCVI decides the priority list  |
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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago
Leicestershire |
We have to be realistic over this vaccine roll out. We have 66 million citizens in the UK. Even if we get to vaccinate 1 million a week and we all need 2 shots that 132 week or 2.5 years. Now we may be able to speed things up in the middle of next year but it's not going to be over night. 500,000 NHS workers for a start, I thing we have a population of 11.5 million over 65 plus. We also have the clinically vulnerable to get as to as well. So realistically we are looking a good few months down the line yet. We will be able to have a lot of our freedoms back by spring and clubs and saunas could well be included but track and trace (we can have an argument about that some other time) will be with us for at least 18 months if not longer.
Me feeling is that once the vulnerable, key workers and anyone over 60 get it the it should be open to all as a need to be vaccinated basis. No need to to make it compulsory and there is no requirement in law in this country. However you may need it to be able to access certain services run by the private sector. They set the rules to protect themselves and their businesses. Its their right. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not a virus conspiracy theorist, and its great news pf course.
However, this is now the beginning of the population needing a 'vaccine certificate' to be allowed the freedoms we had before.
Couple this with track and trace, and now the state will know every single one of our whereabouts.
1984 anyone? |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
Bedfont Feltham |
I think the sticking point is that it has to be stored at -70 which would mean people going to where it's being stored.
And seeing how criminally incompetent the government is I can ot see them getting this sorted anytime soon.
I am cautiously optimistic however |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line...
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family "
You already are protecting them by social distancing, wearing a face covering and frequently washing/sanitising your hands. |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line...
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family "
The Chinese one is available to those willing to pay |
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"I think the sticking point is that it has to be stored at -70 which would mean people going to where it's being stored.
And seeing how criminally incompetent the government is I can ot see them getting this sorted anytime soon.
I am cautiously optimistic however "
The Oxford vaccine is being assessed by the MHRA now, so all being well that should be soon as well |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do we know what time period we are looking at for the vulnerable to get the vaccine?
I've not watched the news in months so I've no idea.
Thanks
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Boris was aiming for April for the whole of England.
And nicola sturgeon has given a time period but did say once supply became available she would roll it out asap |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Travel yes, but I forsee it being mandatory for our day to day actitivies like bars, eating out, theatres etc.."
I'm genuinely confused by this.
If I'm vaccinated then someone without a vaccine and who has Covid can't give it to me.
So why would this be the case? |
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Travel yes, but I forsee it being mandatory for our day to day actitivies like bars, eating out, theatres etc..
I'm genuinely confused by this.
If I'm vaccinated then someone without a vaccine and who has Covid can't give it to me.
So why would this be the case? "
It's not a case of not being able to give it to you, it provides protection not immunity. It prevents the virus from developing into a potential killer within you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Travel yes, but I forsee it being mandatory for our day to day actitivies like bars, eating out, theatres etc..
I'm genuinely confused by this.
If I'm vaccinated then someone without a vaccine and who has Covid can't give it to me.
So why would this be the case?
It's not a case of not being able to give it to you, it provides protection not immunity. It prevents the virus from developing into a potential killer within you"
Ah ok, thanks.
That makes sense |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Travel yes, but I forsee it being mandatory for our day to day actitivies like bars, eating out, theatres etc..
I'm genuinely confused by this.
If I'm vaccinated then someone without a vaccine and who has Covid can't give it to me.
So why would this be the case? "
Correct, but my point is, I fear the government will in years to come, make it mandatory for all to have the vaccine in order to be able to partake in normal everyday things in society |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
Nothing will satisfy/convince extreme anti vaxxers but there are also a lot of concerned/cautious people who do not trust the ethics of this govt or the ethics of big pharma due to the insane amount of money to be made.
So what is needed is for pharma CEOs, their Board members, and their families AND politicians and their families to all take the vaccine first (under scrutinised conditions).
That should allay fears/concerns and increase adoption. |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately "
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do "
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment. |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment."
Some are available in certain countries |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries "
Ok didn't know that which countries? Not that that will help you buying it here. |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries "
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
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Not sure why I can't fly out? |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
Not sure why I can't fly out? "
Possibly the 'No non essential international travel' order? |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
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as other posters have said, we have to vaccinate the most vulnerable people first, we have a limited amount of the vaccine at the moment |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
Not sure why I can't fly out? "
You can. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
Wakefield |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
It should be state controlled any private vaccinations should be at the bottom of the list.
Otherwise it becomes a race to see who can be the highest bidder.
Which will then lead to less availability for the most vulnerable groups who are also the ones who can least afford for private vaccination.
OP take a ticket and wait in line...
And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family "
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
as other posters have said, we have to vaccinate the most vulnerable people first, we have a limited amount of the vaccine at the moment "
According to the papers, the gov, has bought different vax. Its just waiting to start using them. Abroad, it's much easier to buy, as no NHS is available. So I will be getting it. The only issue is it won't go on to my UK heath record. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
as other posters have said, we have to vaccinate the most vulnerable people first, we have a limited amount of the vaccine at the moment According to the papers, the gov, has bought different vax. Its just waiting to start using them. Abroad, it's much easier to buy, as no NHS is available. So I will be getting it. The only issue is it won't go on to my UK heath record. "
Sounds like you're sorted then which country will you go to? |
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Vaccine tourism is about to become a thing in the Emirates China and Russia by the look of it.
For those that are willing to have vaccines from China and Russia.
I am happy to wait. A rather ambitious target of April is not that long in the grand scheme of things. |
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"Vaccine tourism is about to become a thing in the Emirates China and Russia by the look of it.
For those that are willing to have vaccines from China and Russia.
I am happy to wait. A rather ambitious target of April is not that long in the grand scheme of things. "
Yes.
I trust the approval process in places like the UK and the US. I have less trust in the approval process in places like China or Russia.
I'll wait my turn. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Vaccine tourism is about to become a thing in the Emirates China and Russia by the look of it.
For those that are willing to have vaccines from China and Russia.
I am happy to wait. A rather ambitious target of April is not that long in the grand scheme of things. "
I agree with you, we've got this far by behaving ourselves, we can wait a few months and wait our turn |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
as other posters have said, we have to vaccinate the most vulnerable people first, we have a limited amount of the vaccine at the moment According to the papers, the gov, has bought different vax. Its just waiting to start using them. Abroad, it's much easier to buy, as no NHS is available. So I will be getting it. The only issue is it won't go on to my UK heath record.
Sounds like you're sorted then which country will you go to?"
Iceland first. Then many others. Back and forwards to the uk as well. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
as other posters have said, we have to vaccinate the most vulnerable people first, we have a limited amount of the vaccine at the moment According to the papers, the gov, has bought different vax. Its just waiting to start using them. Abroad, it's much easier to buy, as no NHS is available. So I will be getting it. The only issue is it won't go on to my UK heath record.
Sounds like you're sorted then which country will you go to?
Iceland first. Then many others. Back and forwards to the uk as well. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue"
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Vaccine tourism is about to become a thing in the Emirates China and Russia by the look of it.
For those that are willing to have vaccines from China and Russia.
I am happy to wait. A rather ambitious target of April is not that long in the grand scheme of things. "
I suppose the more people who go abroad for the vaccine, the better, there will be more for us here |
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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago
Leicestershire |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
as other posters have said, we have to vaccinate the most vulnerable people first, we have a limited amount of the vaccine at the moment According to the papers, the gov, has bought different vax. Its just waiting to start using them. Abroad, it's much easier to buy, as no NHS is available. So I will be getting it. The only issue is it won't go on to my UK heath record. "
You may well fly to USA in the future and get vaccinated there. However it will be a very expensive jab. Flights, quarantine there, the cost of the jab at private USA hospital prices. You will be charged for consultation, the testing for coronavirus before you enter the hospital before you even get to be seen by a doctor and after care. Then a month's wait in the USA for you second jab and a futher 2 weeks for the immunity to take effect. Flights home. Possible quarantine in the UK as we only have your word that you have had a vaccine or the cost of a test to see that you have a level of immunity to partake in sociaty.
Not that easy is it if you really think about it. |
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"Vaccine tourism is about to become a thing in the Emirates China and Russia by the look of it.
For those that are willing to have vaccines from China and Russia.
I am happy to wait. A rather ambitious target of April is not that long in the grand scheme of things.
I suppose the more people who go abroad for the vaccine, the better, there will be more for us here "
Exactly. I’m sure the Emirates will be able to secure the Western vaccines with their spending power. So everyone benefits. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Vaccine tourism is about to become a thing in the Emirates China and Russia by the look of it.
For those that are willing to have vaccines from China and Russia.
I am happy to wait. A rather ambitious target of April is not that long in the grand scheme of things.
I suppose the more people who go abroad for the vaccine, the better, there will be more for us here
Exactly. I’m sure the Emirates will be able to secure the Western vaccines with their spending power. So everyone benefits. "
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival"
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader? |
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"I'm not a virus conspiracy theorist, and its great news pf course.
However, this is now the beginning of the population needing a 'vaccine certificate' to be allowed the freedoms we had before.
Couple this with track and trace, and now the state will know every single one of our whereabouts.
1984 anyone?"
Are you missing the point? The vaccine is the only way to give the freedoms back. Once the virus is gone or at least back to the level it was in the summer it will hopefully be sustained at that level because of the vaccine. Track and trace isn't really going to be required because most people who come into contact with the virus (at least the vaccinated) won't catch it and pass it on.
Lets just call it 2021 because by 2022 there will be no need track and trace and vaccine certificates. |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader? "
No. purely because the vaccine may not work against the other strains around the world. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader? "
Many people move around a lot in this country too, they too could be spreaders, regardless of where they're spreading it |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
No. purely because the vaccine may not work against the other strains around the world. "
Is there any evidence to suggest this? |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
Many people move around a lot in this country too, they too could be spreaders, regardless of where they're spreading it "
My thoughts entirely. These people need to be high priority. |
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"Do we know what time period we are looking at for the vulnerable to get the vaccine?
I've not watched the news in months so I've no idea.
Thanks
Not yet its NHS and care homes first, jabs are 21 days apart they have 800,000 to arrive next week, then it comes as it is manufactured
This is great news indeed.
So hopefully in a few months or so?
The light at the end of the tunnel is shining brighter "
News I read this morning was all priority groups by spring then roll out to wider population. Care homes probably before Christmas which would be so amazing if they are then they can spend Christmas with relatives |
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over a year ago
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"Pfizer faces a growing number of lawsuits in 2018 involving some of its most popular drugs"
"Pfizer set a record for the largest health care fraud settlement and the largest criminal fine of any kind with $2.3 billion in 2009"
"In 2013, Pfizer agreed to pay $55 million to settle criminal charges. The U.S. Department of Justice said Wyeth promoted Protonix for unapproved uses in 2000 and 2001"
"Nearly 10,000 women filed Prempro breast cancer lawsuits against Pfizer. By 2012, Pfizer settled most of the claims for more than $1 billion"
"In 2011, Pfizer paid $700,000 to four families who lost children during the Trovan trials" |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
""Pfizer faces a growing number of lawsuits in 2018 involving some of its most popular drugs"
"Pfizer set a record for the largest health care fraud settlement and the largest criminal fine of any kind with $2.3 billion in 2009"
"In 2013, Pfizer agreed to pay $55 million to settle criminal charges. The U.S. Department of Justice said Wyeth promoted Protonix for unapproved uses in 2000 and 2001"
"Nearly 10,000 women filed Prempro breast cancer lawsuits against Pfizer. By 2012, Pfizer settled most of the claims for more than $1 billion"
"In 2011, Pfizer paid $700,000 to four families who lost children during the Trovan trials" "
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""Pfizer faces a growing number of lawsuits in 2018 involving some of its most popular drugs"
"Pfizer set a record for the largest health care fraud settlement and the largest criminal fine of any kind with $2.3 billion in 2009"
"In 2013, Pfizer agreed to pay $55 million to settle criminal charges. The U.S. Department of Justice said Wyeth promoted Protonix for unapproved uses in 2000 and 2001"
"Nearly 10,000 women filed Prempro breast cancer lawsuits against Pfizer. By 2012, Pfizer settled most of the claims for more than $1 billion"
"In 2011, Pfizer paid $700,000 to four families who lost children during the Trovan trials" "
Wonder how many billions of lives vaccines have saved though ... have you got that data? Also a source for the above? |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
No. purely because the vaccine may not work against the other strains around the world.
Is there any evidence to suggest this? "
Yes. I will send you some links |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
Many people move around a lot in this country too, they too could be spreaders, regardless of where they're spreading it
My thoughts entirely. These people need to be high priority. "
Nhs staff, people in care homes and the vulnerable need to be high priority..everyone else can continue to abide by the rules, so as not to spread the virus, until they get their jab. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Do we know what time period we are looking at for the vulnerable to get the vaccine?
I've not watched the news in months so I've no idea.
Thanks
Not yet its NHS and care homes first, jabs are 21 days apart they have 800,000 to arrive next week, then it comes as it is manufactured
This is great news indeed.
So hopefully in a few months or so?
The light at the end of the tunnel is shining brighter
News I read this morning was all priority groups by spring then roll out to wider population. Care homes probably before Christmas which would be so amazing if they are then they can spend Christmas with relatives "
Yes, let's hope so |
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"Is there any evidence to suggest this? "
Bit of a mute debate really, as you answered your own question more or less from the beginning. Yes, 'if' you can find (and afford) somewhere abroad to by the vaccine, and accompanying medical requirements, and 'if' you can afford the time constraints involved... Then go for it if it makes you feel better about yourself. But as you pointed out yourself, it wouldn't show on your medical records, so it's not going to benefit you in your job when vaccination proof to travel arrives. |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
No. purely because the vaccine may not work against the other strains around the world. "
It's this type of comment that really shows the ignorance of some people.
The Pfizer vaccine was trialed in 6 countries. I'd expect there to be some variations in strains.
Also, whilst there are slight mutations, they all have this spike proteins which the vaccine teaches the immune system to identify and destroy.
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
"Is there any evidence to suggest this?
Bit of a mute debate really, as you answered your own question more or less from the beginning. Yes, 'if' you can find (and afford) somewhere abroad to by the vaccine, and accompanying medical requirements, and 'if' you can afford the time constraints involved... Then go for it if it makes you feel better about yourself. But as you pointed out yourself, it wouldn't show on your medical records, so it's not going to benefit you in your job when vaccination proof to travel arrives."
If I get it done by a Dr,it can be put on my records at a later date, so no issue afterall |
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over a year ago
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"Is there any evidence to suggest this?
Bit of a mute debate really, as you answered your own question more or less from the beginning. Yes, 'if' you can find (and afford) somewhere abroad to by the vaccine, and accompanying medical requirements, and 'if' you can afford the time constraints involved... Then go for it if it makes you feel better about yourself. But as you pointed out yourself, it wouldn't show on your medical records, so it's not going to benefit you in your job when vaccination proof to travel arrives.
If I get it done by a Dr,it can be put on my records at a later date, so no issue afterall "
Assuming the vaccine you purchase and receive is one approved by the MHRA |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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"Is there any evidence to suggest this?
Bit of a mute debate really, as you answered your own question more or less from the beginning. Yes, 'if' you can find (and afford) somewhere abroad to by the vaccine, and accompanying medical requirements, and 'if' you can afford the time constraints involved... Then go for it if it makes you feel better about yourself. But as you pointed out yourself, it wouldn't show on your medical records, so it's not going to benefit you in your job when vaccination proof to travel arrives.
If I get it done by a Dr,it can be put on my records at a later date, so no issue afterall
Assuming the vaccine you purchase and receive is one approved by the MHRA"
As I have a connection with a senior guy in pharma, I'll get him to check. |
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Matt Hancock on tv today said its great news, about the vaccine but people shouldn't get too excited yet. Even with the vaccine, safety measures like distancing and masks and some other measures will remain for some considerable time yet. At the very least till summer then will be looked at again
Normality is, still some way off |
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"Matt Hancock on tv today said its great news, about the vaccine but people shouldn't get too excited yet. Even with the vaccine, safety measures like distancing and masks and some other measures will remain for some considerable time yet. At the very least till summer then will be looked at again
Normality is, still some way off"
It's the dim light at the end of the tunnel slowly getting brighter |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
No. purely because the vaccine may not work against the other strains around the world.
It's this type of comment that really shows the ignorance of some people.
The Pfizer vaccine was trialed in 6 countries. I'd expect there to be some variations in strains.
Also, whilst there are slight mutations, they all have this spike proteins which the vaccine teaches the immune system to identify and destroy.
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Thank you for your informed comment about my ignorance.
FYI the mRNA Pfizer vaccine which we are commenting on works on the genetic code of coronavirus.
The Oxford vaccine targets spike proteins.
Hope this helps
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
No. purely because the vaccine may not work against the other strains around the world.
It's this type of comment that really shows the ignorance of some people.
The Pfizer vaccine was trialed in 6 countries. I'd expect there to be some variations in strains.
Also, whilst there are slight mutations, they all have this spike proteins which the vaccine teaches the immune system to identify and destroy.
Thank you for your informed comment about my ignorance.
FYI the mRNA Pfizer vaccine which we are commenting on works on the genetic code of coronavirus.
The Oxford vaccine targets spike proteins.
Hope this helps
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I'm even more surprised by your comment when you clearly know the difference between the vaccine. My comment was more appropriate for the Oxford vaccine I admit. |
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Hi all sorry To interfere on your lovely taxes.
But we are looking at around July next year I think as you look out many people that actually live in this country . And how many NHS workers vulnerable people older generation and don’t forget the younger generation so Seriously if some people are not going to have the virus which is their choice would you go to bed with some who don’t Use protection think about it . Some people live with Elderly relatives on this site so if they are sleeping with Sam who are And protected they just given it to their parents as I have lost a brother to this virus and it is real just think Lovely people? |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
Many people move around a lot in this country too, they too could be spreaders, regardless of where they're spreading it
My thoughts entirely. These people need to be high priority.
Nhs staff, people in care homes and the vulnerable need to be high priority..everyone else can continue to abide by the rules, so as not to spread the virus, until they get their jab."
I totally agree, let's assume NHS and high risk are covered
After this everyone should get a fair roll of the dice. If long term covid is serious or even unknown, why should a young healthy person have their future health priotised over an old unhealthy person |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
Many people move around a lot in this country too, they too could be spreaders, regardless of where they're spreading it
My thoughts entirely. These people need to be high priority.
Nhs staff, people in care homes and the vulnerable need to be high priority..everyone else can continue to abide by the rules, so as not to spread the virus, until they get their jab.
I totally agree, let's assume NHS and high risk are covered
After this everyone should get a fair roll of the dice. If long term covid is serious or even unknown, why should a young healthy person have their future health priotised over an old unhealthy person"
There has to be some kind of list, not everyone will be happy with their place on the list. I'm quite a way down, but I'm happy to wait my turn |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
Many people move around a lot in this country too, they too could be spreaders, regardless of where they're spreading it
My thoughts entirely. These people need to be high priority.
Nhs staff, people in care homes and the vulnerable need to be high priority..everyone else can continue to abide by the rules, so as not to spread the virus, until they get their jab.
I totally agree, let's assume NHS and high risk are covered
After this everyone should get a fair roll of the dice. If long term covid is serious or even unknown, why should a young healthy person have their future health priotised over an old unhealthy person
There has to be some kind of list, not everyone will be happy with their place on the list. I'm quite a way down, but I'm happy to wait my turn "
It could be randomly selected and just work thru the population. Once high risk are sorted |
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over a year ago
chelmsford |
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And let the government decide who gets it? Why can I not have it if I'm willing to pay? No one knows the long term affects of having covid so i feel I'm within my rights to try to protect myself and my family
No problem at all. All you have to do is contact Pfizer/BioNTech direct, visit them, buy the vacine and pay someone to inject you. Don't expect doctors over here to risk their chance of getting supplies by trying to jump the queue
Can't help thinking this reminds me of those apocalypse movies, where the guy hell bent on survival pushes the old, weak and defenceless aside to get to the ship that is his ticket to survival
Sort of true. But really, who'd put others in front of their families and own personal health. I'm actually staying with a guy from the pharma industry. Is it not better to inoculate someone who has to move around different countries, risking being a spreader?
Many people move around a lot in this country too, they too could be spreaders, regardless of where they're spreading it
My thoughts entirely. These people need to be high priority.
Nhs staff, people in care homes and the vulnerable need to be high priority..everyone else can continue to abide by the rules, so as not to spread the virus, until they get their jab.
I totally agree, let's assume NHS and high risk are covered
After this everyone should get a fair roll of the dice. If long term covid is serious or even unknown, why should a young healthy person have their future health priotised over an old unhealthy person
There has to be some kind of list, not everyone will be happy with their place on the list. I'm quite a way down, but I'm happy to wait my turn
It could be randomly selected and just work thru the population. Once high risk are sorted "
Yes it could, I just think that those who could be potentially more ill, should be prioritised, that is likely to be older people rather than the younger generation and yes I know younger people have had it and died from it. |
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"Do we know what time period we are looking at for the vulnerable to get the vaccine?
I've not watched the news in months so I've no idea.
Thanks
Boris was aiming for April for the whole of England.
And nicola sturgeon has given a time period but did say once supply became available she would roll it out asap"
Pretty quickly I think, some NHS staff have already been told they should have it next week |
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"After this everyone should get a fair roll of the dice. If long term covid is serious or even unknown, why should a young healthy person have their future health priotised over an old unhealthy person"
Possibly because there is lots of evidence that the risk of serious health issues increases with age range? |
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"And as if by magic It will be ready across the world when the first presidential ambassador of China is sworn in. You just couldn’t make it up. "
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
If it is anything like Pfizer's other successful offering - Viagra - it should not be too long before we can get and Indian made alternative on line for a knock down price. |
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If it is anything like Pfizer's other successful offering - Viagra - it should not be too long before we can get and Indian made alternative on line for a knock down price.
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Indian generic versions of Viagra don't work any where near as effectively as genuine Viagra. Believe me I've tried them all. Can you imagine - "try this vaccine it's from India and only cost a quid"!  |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
""Pfizer faces a growing number of lawsuits in 2018 involving some of its most popular drugs"
"Pfizer set a record for the largest health care fraud settlement and the largest criminal fine of any kind with $2.3 billion in 2009"
"In 2013, Pfizer agreed to pay $55 million to settle criminal charges. The U.S. Department of Justice said Wyeth promoted Protonix for unapproved uses in 2000 and 2001"
"Nearly 10,000 women filed Prempro breast cancer lawsuits against Pfizer. By 2012, Pfizer settled most of the claims for more than $1 billion"
"In 2011, Pfizer paid $700,000 to four families who lost children during the Trovan trials"
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And Pfizer brought us the little blue pill. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Its just been approved by MHRA and will roll out in the next couple of days to NHS staff "
Not quite....
800,000 doses means 400,000 people.... need two shots
Care homes and their carers, and people over 80 will be first in line.....
Then it’s over 75’s and then nhs frontline staff...
I am guessing there still won’t be enough for group 1 at this stage.... |
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"Its just been approved by MHRA and will roll out in the next couple of days to NHS staff
Not quite....
800,000 doses means 400,000 people.... need two shots
Care homes and their carers, and people over 80 will be first in line.....
Then it’s over 75’s and then nhs frontline staff...
I am guessing there still won’t be enough for group 1 at this stage...."
That's 1 vaccine, there are 2 more awaiting imminent approval, plus ithers at various stages of trialling.... All adds up |
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If it is anything like Pfizer's other successful offering - Viagra - it should not be too long before we can get and Indian made alternative on line for a knock down price.
Indian generic versions of Viagra don't work any where near as effectively as genuine Viagra. Believe me I've tried them all. Can you imagine - "try this vaccine it's from India and only cost a quid"! "
You might just be getting one from India
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
as other posters have said, we have to vaccinate the most vulnerable people first, we have a limited amount of the vaccine at the moment According to the papers, the gov, has bought different vax. Its just waiting to start using them. Abroad, it's much easier to buy, as no NHS is available. So I will be getting it. The only issue is it won't go on to my UK heath record.
You may well fly to USA in the future and get vaccinated there. However it will be a very expensive jab. Flights, quarantine there, the cost of the jab at private USA hospital prices. You will be charged for consultation, the testing for coronavirus before you enter the hospital before you even get to be seen by a doctor and after care. Then a month's wait in the USA for you second jab and a futher 2 weeks for the immunity to take effect. Flights home. Possible quarantine in the UK as we only have your word that you have had a vaccine or the cost of a test to see that you have a level of immunity to partake in sociaty.
Not that easy is it if you really think about it. "
Not going to happen in the us....
The biden administration has said the vaccine will be free to every and will use the law to make sure any will not go to private establishments....there is no incentive for people to do it privately
You will need to find another country |
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"I hope it comes on the open market and is not state controlled. I'd be happy to pay for a vaccine privately
This. How can I buy the vaccine? Flying out of Europe Jan 3rd, I'd like it before then. If not do I buy it abroad? Won't be on my UK records if I do
The vaccine is not on sale at the moment.
Some are available in certain countries
You just can't fly out to them at the moment, so you'll have to join the queue like all of us
as other posters have said, we have to vaccinate the most vulnerable people first, we have a limited amount of the vaccine at the moment According to the papers, the gov, has bought different vax. Its just waiting to start using them. Abroad, it's much easier to buy, as no NHS is available. So I will be getting it. The only issue is it won't go on to my UK heath record.
You may well fly to USA in the future and get vaccinated there. However it will be a very expensive jab. Flights, quarantine there, the cost of the jab at private USA hospital prices. You will be charged for consultation, the testing for coronavirus before you enter the hospital before you even get to be seen by a doctor and after care. Then a month's wait in the USA for you second jab and a futher 2 weeks for the immunity to take effect. Flights home. Possible quarantine in the UK as we only have your word that you have had a vaccine or the cost of a test to see that you have a level of immunity to partake in sociaty.
Not that easy is it if you really think about it.
Not going to happen in the us....
The biden administration has said the vaccine will be free to every and will use the law to make sure any will not go to private establishments....there is no incentive for people to do it privately
You will need to find another country "
Russia has the sputnik or whatever it is I'm sure you can buy it on every street corner in moscow. No stupid regulations there you just pay your money and take your chance  |
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