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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january  |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january "
You're first sentence says you're not into scaremongering, then you say about "wave 3 lockdown"
That is scaremongering!  |
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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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not scare mongering, as showing how it happens and the reason why cases go up.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-11-19/covid-supermarkets-revealed-as-place-visitors-and-workers-are-most-likely-to-be-exposed-to-coronavirus
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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"not scare mongering, as showing how it happens and the reason why cases go up.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-11-19/covid-supermarkets-revealed-as-place-visitors-and-workers-are-most-likely-to-be-exposed-to-coronavirus
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over a year ago
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"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january
You're first sentence says you're not into scaremongering, then you say about "wave 3 lockdown"
That is scaremongering! "
I hate shopping anxiety central but today is the day and I’m really not looking forward to it tbh it’s cold wet and miserable outside and it’s blowing a hoolie to add insult to injury ! As for pensioners the ones I know wanna live but what a life without actually living it so they would rather be out trying to be as normal as possible rather than waiting for the grim reaper to come chapping at their door and who would blame them ? It’s just how lax everyone is about it in terms of hand sanitising and using masks properly if everyone actually used their hand sanitiser I wouldn’t get so anxious when I see folk fingering stuff then putting it back, was good when staff were at doors making sure folk sanitised before they entered now they’re leaving it to folk doing it off their own back |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january
You're first sentence says you're not into scaremongering, then you say about "wave 3 lockdown"
That is scaremongering! "
World Health Organisation said yesterday
Europe WILL have a third wave Jan/Feb 21 due to countries opening up before virus under control ,-UK included. |
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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january
You're first sentence says you're not into scaremongering, then you say about "wave 3 lockdown"
That is scaremongering!
World Health Organisation said yesterday
Europe WILL have a third wave Jan/Feb 21 due to countries opening up before virus under control ,-UK included. "
thats been on the cards for the last few months, another lockdown and government blame christmas/new year |
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All you can control is yourself.
I put my masks in zip lock bags, one marked clean, one marked dirty, and I sanitise or wash hands before and after. I cover my nose and mouth fully, I don't touch it, and if people don't back off I move away. I touch as little as possible, I tie my hair back, I sanitise my trolley or basket before use.
If you do all this and make your supermarket trips quick, your risk of catching or spreading anything in the supermarket is minimal. If we all do it then the supermarket becomes less of a disease vector.
Hope this helps. |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
ribble valley |
"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january
You're first sentence says you're not into scaremongering, then you say about "wave 3 lockdown"
That is scaremongering!
World Health Organisation said yesterday
Europe WILL have a third wave Jan/Feb 21 due to countries opening up before virus under control ,-UK included.
thats been on the cards for the last few months, another lockdown and government blame christmas/new year "
But the countries not "opening up".
We will still be under restrictions. |
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It seems to need sustained close contact to deliver enough virus to someone. Shopping ought to be fairly safe, if distancing and masked. Supermarkets are perhaps the only place some get a chance to get out of home to, so provide support for mental health and indirectly physical health.
Focus on your own behaviour, as we'll not know the situation for others |
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"As for 2nd wave 3rd wave,as covid never went away,its surely just a continuous virus?  "
It continues to exist in the population. The waves (secondary apparently is more technically correct than second) is where case numbers rise.
So in the summer Manchester was a plague ridden hell hole, listening to some, with 50 cases per 100k population. Not during a wave.
I looked at the recent figures on MEN, national average is 250/100k and Manchester is doing well down to low 300s/100k. |
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By *ljamMan
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january
You're first sentence says you're not into scaremongering, then you say about "wave 3 lockdown"
That is scaremongering!
World Health Organisation said yesterday
Europe WILL have a third wave Jan/Feb 21 due to countries opening up before virus under control ,-UK included. "
They never said it was as definite as you suggest. They said we will have a third wave IF countries don't build the necessary infrastructure to prevent it. So we'll probably have one, but it's not inevitable. Important distinction. |
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Why should pensioners and disabled people get up at the crack of dawn to shop? Supermarkets should put sensible protected shopping time in - they shove it at the very start of the day for their own convenience. My 81yo dad certainly doesn't want to go to Sainsbury's between 7-8am 
They should protect some time in the middle of the day and/or mid afternoon when people have actually had a chance to get going and when public transport (which many pensioners rely on) is actually running. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I am a carer and so allowed into stores before 8am, just this morning with only about 6 people in the whole supermarket including pensioners, I could still feel pensioners breathing down my back and standing right next to me! |
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"Why should pensioners and disabled people get up at the crack of dawn to shop? Supermarkets should put sensible protected shopping time in - they shove it at the very start of the day for their own convenience. My 81yo dad certainly doesn't want to go to Sainsbury's between 7-8am
They should protect some time in the middle of the day and/or mid afternoon when people have actually had a chance to get going and when public transport (which many pensioners rely on) is actually running."
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"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january
You're first sentence says you're not into scaremongering, then you say about "wave 3 lockdown"
That is scaremongering! "
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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?"
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in |
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By *usybee73 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I am a carer and so allowed into stores before 8am, just this morning with only about 6 people in the whole supermarket including pensioners, I could still feel pensioners breathing down my back and standing right next to me! "
Cant blame them if they gave your arse a smack as you went past 
Talking to the staff, there surprised more don't use the opportunity as all the shelves are stocked as well |
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in"
Nonsense. You can book usually the same week or a week ahead. Most supermarkets have delivery slots from early morning (6am) right through to midnight. We get Ocado deliveries fortnightly (can edit the basket up to 48hrs before delivery) and on Saturday or Sunday between 8pm and 11pm depending on availability.
It's clear you haven't looked into online supermarket shopping. My Dad is 81 and technologically incompetent yet has managed to book regular Tesco deliveries at 07.30 fortnightly. |
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"not scare mongering, as showing how it happens and the reason why cases go up.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-11-19/covid-supermarkets-revealed-as-place-visitors-and-workers-are-most-likely-to-be-exposed-to-coronavirus
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I suspect this stat is quite disingenuous, as somebody else stated the supermarket is likely to be the only place many people will have remembered visiting when contacted.
The figure won't take into account transmission in the home. There is also the issue of people omitting the truth for any number of reasons. |
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Lots of supermarkets offer an emergency box to order online for people who suddenly need to quarantine. They are £20-£30 and you can't choose the contents but they have enough basics for a week and are guaranteed to be delivered within 24 hours and usually within 12. |
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"not scare mongering, as showing how it happens and the reason why cases go up.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-11-19/covid-supermarkets-revealed-as-place-visitors-and-workers-are-most-likely-to-be-exposed-to-coronavirus
I suspect this stat is quite disingenuous, as somebody else stated the supermarket is likely to be the only place many people will have remembered visiting when contacted.
The figure won't take into account transmission in the home. There is also the issue of people omitting the truth for any number of reasons."
Correct.
Track & trace (TT): "And where have you visited in the past two weeks Sir?"
Man: "Err I've only been to Tesco's twice a week - Mondays and Wednesdays. Honest, Guv  "
TT: "Is that it? No private homes etc?"
Man: "Definitely not"
TT conclusion: Tesco's is riddled with Covid
Also Man: attended 3x lockdown BBQs; Auntie Ethel's 70th birthday; a Bar Mitzvah; 2x kids birthday parties and a Jacob's supper with the neighbourhood WhatsApp group. |
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in"
I do Tesco click n collect. You shop online, they do your shopping, you arrange when you are going to pick it up, usually in a 2 hour block. Simple and easy. I book mine approx 5 to 7 days in advance. |
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"not scare mongering, as showing how it happens and the reason why cases go up.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-11-19/covid-supermarkets-revealed-as-place-visitors-and-workers-are-most-likely-to-be-exposed-to-coronavirus
I suspect this stat is quite disingenuous, as somebody else stated the supermarket is likely to be the only place many people will have remembered visiting when contacted.
The figure won't take into account transmission in the home. There is also the issue of people omitting the truth for any number of reasons."
As far as I’m aware supermarket workers have not been overly impacted so I’m not sure it’s such a hot bed of infection. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"not scare mongering, as showing how it happens and the reason why cases go up.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-11-19/covid-supermarkets-revealed-as-place-visitors-and-workers-are-most-likely-to-be-exposed-to-coronavirus
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I’m not surprised in the slightest have always thought supermarkets, busses and Nhs doctors/hospitals were the places you’re most likely to catch this and other viruses |
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in"
Iceland deliver from 6 right upmto 10 at night and can do next day delivery
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The only place I have ever caught any illness, on the rare occasion I get ill it has always been in the office. You can see the bug doing the rounds person by person normally after their kids have returned to school after school holidays. I’ve not been to the office at all this year, but been to tescos nearly every other day and weekly visits to the clothes shops at the weekend and I’ve not had a single sniffle this year. |
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in
Nonsense. You can book usually the same week or a week ahead. Most supermarkets have delivery slots from early morning (6am) right through to midnight. We get Ocado deliveries fortnightly (can edit the basket up to 48hrs before delivery) and on Saturday or Sunday between 8pm and 11pm depending on availability.
It's clear you haven't looked into online supermarket shopping. My Dad is 81 and technologically incompetent yet has managed to book regular Tesco deliveries at 07.30 fortnightly. "
This is the same dad who’s not for shopping between 7and 8am?? |
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in
Nonsense. You can book usually the same week or a week ahead. Most supermarkets have delivery slots from early morning (6am) right through to midnight. We get Ocado deliveries fortnightly (can edit the basket up to 48hrs before delivery) and on Saturday or Sunday between 8pm and 11pm depending on availability.
It's clear you haven't looked into online supermarket shopping. My Dad is 81 and technologically incompetent yet has managed to book regular Tesco deliveries at 07.30 fortnightly.
This is the same dad who’s not for shopping between 7and 8am??"
There's a world of difference between taking delivery on your own doorstep at 07.30 and being showered, dressed and having taken two bloody buses to Tesco in Bidston! There's not even buses early enough to get him there in time. Come now, surely you can see the difference between accepting delivery to your home vs being out in the supermarket?? |
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"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january "
So the places open where most people visit during a lockdown are the places your most likely to become infected. I thought the significant risk would be in the swimming baths.. they’re shut!, the gym, shut too! What the information adds then is that where there are people there is more opportunity for transmission.... who’d have thunk it! |
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in
Nonsense. You can book usually the same week or a week ahead. Most supermarkets have delivery slots from early morning (6am) right through to midnight. We get Ocado deliveries fortnightly (can edit the basket up to 48hrs before delivery) and on Saturday or Sunday between 8pm and 11pm depending on availability.
It's clear you haven't looked into online supermarket shopping. My Dad is 81 and technologically incompetent yet has managed to book regular Tesco deliveries at 07.30 fortnightly.
This is the same dad who’s not for shopping between 7and 8am??
There's a world of difference between taking delivery on your own doorstep at 07.30 and being showered, dressed and having taken two bloody buses to Tesco in Bidston! There's not even buses early enough to get him there in time. Come now, surely you can see the difference between accepting delivery to your home vs being out in the supermarket??"
Yes course I can.... however... taking umbrage with the opening times your dad can go when he’s all set up with home deliveries has me wondering! And by the way.... he can go whenever he likes! Any time of the day.... |
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"Why should pensioners and disabled people get up at the crack of dawn to shop? Supermarkets should put sensible protected shopping time in - they shove it at the very start of the day for their own convenience. My 81yo dad certainly doesn't want to go to Sainsbury's between 7-8am
They should protect some time in the middle of the day and/or mid afternoon when people have actually had a chance to get going and when public transport (which many pensioners rely on) is actually running.
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its because the stores get cleaned and restocked overnight so its the best time to be in the store in terms of hygiene and availability... nobody is stopping then going at other times if they prefer but they cant set aside time to suit everyones individual schedule and preference |
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in
Nonsense. You can book usually the same week or a week ahead. Most supermarkets have delivery slots from early morning (6am) right through to midnight. We get Ocado deliveries fortnightly (can edit the basket up to 48hrs before delivery) and on Saturday or Sunday between 8pm and 11pm depending on availability.
It's clear you haven't looked into online supermarket shopping. My Dad is 81 and technologically incompetent yet has managed to book regular Tesco deliveries at 07.30 fortnightly.
This is the same dad who’s not for shopping between 7and 8am??
There's a world of difference between taking delivery on your own doorstep at 07.30 and being showered, dressed and having taken two bloody buses to Tesco in Bidston! There's not even buses early enough to get him there in time. Come now, surely you can see the difference between accepting delivery to your home vs being out in the supermarket??
Yes course I can.... however... taking umbrage with the opening times your dad can go when he’s all set up with home deliveries has me wondering! And by the way.... he can go whenever he likes! Any time of the day.... "
He's had only had home deliveries recently, since he had to stop driving due his advancing dementia. I don't know if you've ever tried to assist an 81yo with dementia to use Tesco online shopping, but it's somewhere in the realms of removing your own eyeball with the blunt end of a spoon. Once he'd stopped driving (after being discovered in the vicinity of Worcester at 1am by the Police who thought he was having a stroke, but that's another story), he started taking the bus to the nearest big Tesco (Bidston). There's a perfectly good Sainsbury's nearby, but when you've shopped at Tesco for 30yrs plus and you have dementia.......never mind.
Anyway. After hours, literally HOURS of repetitive IT support around my full time work, my family responsibilities, my own disability and a fuck ton of other issues (surgery, son who was suicidal, son who was beaten to a pulp on the bus, and there's more), yes, he gets Tesco home delivery once a bloody fortnight. I'm not sure what he orders from them, because he seems to go to the local Nisa thingy about 4 times a week too (confusion? I don't know).
Anyway. Now you know all about my Dad and his shopping habits. Wouldn't it be nice if he could go to Tesco at Bidston in the middle of the day and know the time was protected for people like him, with wonky brains, wonky knees and unilateral deafness?? |
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i mean this to come across respectfully
but since your dad seems to need routine at the moment why would a set time in the middle of the day potentially be any better if it doesn’t fit with his illness and routine
that was my point before about how they cant suit everyone so have picked the safest most stocked time
your dad would prefer middle of the day, maybe his elderly neighbour likes to shop at 10pm , maybe the shielding woman down the road likes to get it over with at 7am
its unfortunate but not done out of awkwardness or badness |
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"OP as you thing supermarkets are so dangerous wouldn't it be safer for you to get home delivery or do click and collect ?
As far as aware you have to book weeks in front, sure people have experience of this? Plus I'm at work so wouldn't be in
Nonsense. You can book usually the same week or a week ahead. Most supermarkets have delivery slots from early morning (6am) right through to midnight. We get Ocado deliveries fortnightly (can edit the basket up to 48hrs before delivery) and on Saturday or Sunday between 8pm and 11pm depending on availability.
It's clear you haven't looked into online supermarket shopping. My Dad is 81 and technologically incompetent yet has managed to book regular Tesco deliveries at 07.30 fortnightly.
This is the same dad who’s not for shopping between 7and 8am??
There's a world of difference between taking delivery on your own doorstep at 07.30 and being showered, dressed and having taken two bloody buses to Tesco in Bidston! There's not even buses early enough to get him there in time. Come now, surely you can see the difference between accepting delivery to your home vs being out in the supermarket??
Yes course I can.... however... taking umbrage with the opening times your dad can go when he’s all set up with home deliveries has me wondering! And by the way.... he can go whenever he likes! Any time of the day....
He's had only had home deliveries recently, since he had to stop driving due his advancing dementia. I don't know if you've ever tried to assist an 81yo with dementia to use Tesco online shopping, but it's somewhere in the realms of removing your own eyeball with the blunt end of a spoon. Once he'd stopped driving (after being discovered in the vicinity of Worcester at 1am by the Police who thought he was having a stroke, but that's another story), he started taking the bus to the nearest big Tesco (Bidston). There's a perfectly good Sainsbury's nearby, but when you've shopped at Tesco for 30yrs plus and you have dementia.......never mind.
Anyway. After hours, literally HOURS of repetitive IT support around my full time work, my family responsibilities, my own disability and a fuck ton of other issues (surgery, son who was suicidal, son who was beaten to a pulp on the bus, and there's more), yes, he gets Tesco home delivery once a bloody fortnight. I'm not sure what he orders from them, because he seems to go to the local Nisa thingy about 4 times a week too (confusion? I don't know).
Anyway. Now you know all about my Dad and his shopping habits. Wouldn't it be nice if he could go to Tesco at Bidston in the middle of the day and know the time was protected for people like him, with wonky brains, wonky knees and unilateral deafness??"
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"as someone whose not really into the scare mongering about covid, it was interesting doing the weekly shop yesterday. i do a shop once a week, as cant stand supermarkets at the best of times.
but wondering around i noticed groups all together, quite a few high school kids, few pensioners huddled together and a few families ... all mostly had masks on, most were pieces of cloth brought out from a pocket which most likely has coins, snot rag and such stuff in. kids wondering around picking things up etc (as kids do).
i can understand how easily its spread and dare say more infections are picked up from the supermarkets then anywhere else?
so waiting in the queue i chatted to a pensioner, would say late 70s and asked why she came to the supermarket for at this time, when they open up specially an hour early for pensioners etc she replied she didnt want to get up early, and wont change anything etc
welcome to wave 3 and lock down in january
You're first sentence says you're not into scaremongering, then you say about "wave 3 lockdown"
That is scaremongering! "
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"i mean this to come across respectfully
but since your dad seems to need routine at the moment why would a set time in the middle of the day potentially be any better if it doesn’t fit with his illness and routine
that was my point before about how they cant suit everyone so have picked the safest most stocked time
your dad would prefer middle of the day, maybe his elderly neighbour likes to shop at 10pm , maybe the shielding woman down the road likes to get it over with at 7am
its unfortunate but not done out of awkwardness or badness "
It's not about routine as much as practicality now. There simply aren't buses at the early hour to get someone to the supermarket for 7-8am. We have a Sainsbury's locally and the staff have commented on elderly people infrequently using their protected shopping time when I've been waiting for them to open the (one) wheelchair width till. I can't imagine many elderly people are ready to be in the shops at 7am, no matter how far away they live. We were off work on Monday and went to Sainsbury's at 1.30pm. We were astounded how busy it was and the vast majority of the other customers were older, retirement age people. My brother is a deputy manager for Aldi and he's made the same comments - older customers come mid-morning to lunchtime/early afternoon in the main. They certainly don't come at the start of the day at 7/8am. I'm supposed to be able to access these protected hours as s wheelchair user, but I can't due to working FT and having to get my daughter to nursery etc. I have to go at weekends (which is fine for me) but many disabled people work. The hours just seem to be tokens. They're offered so they're doing their bit. No matter if the times make any sense. My straw poll of my wheelchair basketball team amigos (majority are wheelchair users) and none have used the protected hours because of the times. Almost everyone works. I spent the first lockdown shopping for one of my teammates who ISN'T physically able to do his own shopping, normally his parents did it, but they were shielding. He couldn't get a supermarket delivery slot at all but wasn't eligible for the Govt protected delivery slots either. Having arms and legs that don't work doesn't necessarily make you clinically vulnerable. Rather hilarious having a wheelchair user doing shopping for a more disabled wheelchair user and then taking hours to trolley the bags from my car to his house on my knee/hanging off the back of my chair etc. |
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"i mean this to come across respectfully
but since your dad seems to need routine at the moment why would a set time in the middle of the day potentially be any better if it doesn’t fit with his illness and routine
that was my point before about how they cant suit everyone so have picked the safest most stocked time
your dad would prefer middle of the day, maybe his elderly neighbour likes to shop at 10pm , maybe the shielding woman down the road likes to get it over with at 7am
its unfortunate but not done out of awkwardness or badness
It's not about routine as much as practicality now. There simply aren't buses at the early hour to get someone to the supermarket for 7-8am. We have a Sainsbury's locally and the staff have commented on elderly people infrequently using their protected shopping time when I've been waiting for them to open the (one) wheelchair width till. I can't imagine many elderly people are ready to be in the shops at 7am, no matter how far away they live. We were off work on Monday and went to Sainsbury's at 1.30pm. We were astounded how busy it was and the vast majority of the other customers were older, retirement age people. My brother is a deputy manager for Aldi and he's made the same comments - older customers come mid-morning to lunchtime/early afternoon in the main. They certainly don't come at the start of the day at 7/8am. I'm supposed to be able to access these protected hours as s wheelchair user, but I can't due to working FT and having to get my daughter to nursery etc. I have to go at weekends (which is fine for me) but many disabled people work. The hours just seem to be tokens. They're offered so they're doing their bit. No matter if the times make any sense. My straw poll of my wheelchair basketball team amigos (majority are wheelchair users) and none have used the protected hours because of the times. Almost everyone works. I spent the first lockdown shopping for one of my teammates who ISN'T physically able to do his own shopping, normally his parents did it, but they were shielding. He couldn't get a supermarket delivery slot at all but wasn't eligible for the Govt protected delivery slots either. Having arms and legs that don't work doesn't necessarily make you clinically vulnerable. Rather hilarious having a wheelchair user doing shopping for a more disabled wheelchair user and then taking hours to trolley the bags from my car to his house on my knee/hanging off the back of my chair etc. "
*I feel I need to highlight that playing wheelchair basketball doesn't mean you have to be a wheelchair user at other times. Eg amputees who walk on a prosthetic play the sport but may well be able to walk long enough on their leg(s) not to need a chair day to day. Before someone gets all excited at the idea of some wheelchair sportspeople not being daily wheelchair users  |
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