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"I think you’ll find the hotels will refuse as you are not from the same household, so against current rules to share a room " Ok I will take it up with the hotel tonight | |||
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"When working away pre lockdown did you share rooms? Im going to assume that your work are trying to minimise expenses and its not a case of the hotel is over booked? The only thing I can find is from the uk govs guidance for construction and other outdoor work “Where workers are required to stay away from their home, centrally logging the stay and making sure any overnight accommodation meets social distancing guidelines”" Yes we did between lockdown. That's all I found also. Not enough information out there  | |||
"I think you’ll find the hotels will refuse as you are not from the same household, so against current rules to share a room " They haven't though . There were another 2 lads at the same hotel last week also same room. | |||
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"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. " I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. | |||
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"Firstly buddy....your a 51 yr old dude who's being made share a hotel for work Tell yer boss to stick it... Guidelines say 6ft away from each other No mixing of households indoors... Your at a greater risk of getting it from being in the hotel..so its prob doubled the chances by sharing... Again....find a new employer if the cant be arsed to look after employees..." Easier said than done | |||
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"You could just book another room and pay for yourself if it is your preference to have a room to yourself." Nowt to do with preference. It's the law at the moment. Any hotel allowing households to mix will find themselves liable to a large fine. | |||
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"You could just book another room and pay for yourself if it is your preference to have a room to yourself." I work away from home to make money not to spend it. | |||
"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/hotels-and-other-guest-accommodation" I have read all that 3 times and it says you can stay away overnight for work . But that's about it. Might have to make a 5 hour round trip per day | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it." But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. You do not need to have every possible scenario written in black and white, the above guidelines cover everything you need to know. | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. You do not need to have every possible scenario written in black and white, the above guidelines cover everything you need to know. " Where does it state that ? | |||
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"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/hotels-and-other-guest-accommodation It's quite clear on this link that hotels and accommodation providers must follow the national guidance, which is that people from different households/bubbles may not interact indoors. That means not sharing a hotel room and the hotel itself should be checking anyway - asking for evidence of address etc and only booking one household per room." Thanks I will take this to the hotel tonight. | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. You do not need to have every possible scenario written in black and white, the above guidelines cover everything you need to know. Where does it state that ?" It's all in the current Government Covid-19 Secure guidelines online. | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. " Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" " Well in work...you have people enforcing the guidelines.... Like where I work....facemask has to cover all the nose and mouth... You have to social distance When you are out of that scenario it immediately becomes more lax and easygoing | |||
"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/hotels-and-other-guest-accommodation I have read all that 3 times and it says you can stay away overnight for work . But that's about it. Might have to make a 5 hour round trip per day" I saw on that that room sharing shouldn't happen, unless in a support bubble or living together, with shared shower and bathroom facilities, unless there's hotel organised cleaning between use. None of the available information points to it being something that is permitted at this point where overall hotel use is prohibited, except as specifically approved. | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" " Yes, I fully agree  | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" Well in work...you have people enforcing the guidelines.... Like where I work....facemask has to cover all the nose and mouth... You have to social distance When you are out of that scenario it immediately becomes more lax and easygoing " It should not though, as both the employer and employees have legal obligations to adhere to as, also the hotel does too, in England. I'd write to the hotel asking them if several people, of different households who are not in support bubbles, are permitted to share a room and if they take full legal responsibility for this. | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" Well in work...you have people enforcing the guidelines.... Like where I work....facemask has to cover all the nose and mouth... You have to social distance When you are out of that scenario it immediately becomes more lax and easygoing " That pretty much the argument really that work environments are legally subject to Covid-19 risk assessments where outside of those areas are not. | |||
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"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" Well in work...you have people enforcing the guidelines.... Like where I work....facemask has to cover all the nose and mouth... You have to social distance When you are out of that scenario it immediately becomes more lax and easygoing It should not though, as both the employer and employees have legal obligations to adhere to as, also the hotel does too, in England. I'd write to the hotel asking them if several people, of different households who are not in support bubbles, are permitted to share a room and if they take full legal responsibility for this. " I highly doubt any company in their right mind even if the could would take full legal responsibility for both them and you breaking the same law  | |||
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"Apparently according to the hotel manager it's down to the company I work for not disclosing that we live in separate households" But now you have disclosed the fact to the hotel then they are breaking guidelines as well, but obviously they would lie to save their skin.
All the information is online and your company will know their breaking guidelines to save a few quid unless their really thick as 2 short planks and I understand it'll make you uneasy demanding your bosses behave in a legal and moral manner.
Good luck | |||
"Apparently according to the hotel manager it's down to the company I work for not disclosing that we live in separate households But now you have disclosed the fact to the hotel then they are breaking guidelines as well, but obviously they would lie to save their skin.
All the information is online and your company will know their breaking guidelines to save a few quid unless their really thick as 2 short planks and I understand it'll make you uneasy demanding your bosses behave in a legal and moral manner.
Good luck "Yep they will stop me working away from home. My workmate is now saying just leave it be. Just feel like I am swimming against the tide. | |||
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"Apparently according to the hotel manager it's down to the company I work for not disclosing that we live in separate households But now you have disclosed the fact to the hotel then they are breaking guidelines as well, but obviously they would lie to save their skin.
All the information is online and your company will know their breaking guidelines to save a few quid unless their really thick as 2 short planks and I understand it'll make you uneasy demanding your bosses behave in a legal and moral manner.
Good luck
Yep they will stop me working away from home.
My workmate is now saying just leave it be.
Just feel like I am swimming against the tide."Yeah I know what you mean. | |||
"Fact is you have now told them so they have to act. Must admit we stayed in a hotel the other weekend for work and they wanted to know all sorts and had us prove we lived in the same house. " Just shows you that some companies do things correctly and others just don't give a shit. | |||
"Firstly buddy....your a 51 yr old dude who's being made share a hotel for work Tell yer boss to stick it... Guidelines say 6ft away from each other No mixing of households indoors... Your at a greater risk of getting it from being in the hotel..so its prob doubled the chances by sharing... Again....find a new employer if the cant be arsed to look after employees..." Yeah, cos finding a new employer atm would be easy, right? | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" Yes, I fully agree "It's impossible to socially distance from someone you're sharing a twin room and bathroom with and you're not going to wear a face mask all evening/night, let's face it. That's the difference. The workplace should be Covid secure, but it cannot be Covid secure to share facilities in a diddy little B&B. If the colleagues are travelling in the same vehicle, they're supposed to be wearing masks all the time, windows open for ventilation and all that jazz, so it does make sense as to why sharing a hotel room is different. OP - by not disclosing to the hotel that you're from different addresses, your employer has broken H&S law and as another person has said, report to the HSE. | |||
"Firstly buddy....your a 51 yr old dude who's being made share a hotel for work Tell yer boss to stick it... Guidelines say 6ft away from each other No mixing of households indoors... Your at a greater risk of getting it from being in the hotel..so its prob doubled the chances by sharing... Again....find a new employer if the cant be arsed to look after employees... Yeah, cos finding a new employer atm would be easy, right?" I tried not to bite to his bait. The truth is working local I get 380 a week working away I get 700. I enjoy working away and was sharing a room between lockdowns I dont want to be fined for doing something i know I should not be doing. | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" Yes, I fully agree
It's impossible to socially distance from someone you're sharing a twin room and bathroom with and you're not going to wear a face mask all evening/night, let's face it. That's the difference. The workplace should be Covid secure, but it cannot be Covid secure to share facilities in a diddy little B&B. If the colleagues are travelling in the same vehicle, they're supposed to be wearing masks all the time, windows open for ventilation and all that jazz, so it does make sense as to why sharing a hotel room is different.
OP - by not disclosing to the hotel that you're from different addresses, your employer has broken H&S law and as another person has said, report to the HSE. "Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room. | |||
"Firstly buddy....your a 51 yr old dude who's being made share a hotel for work Tell yer boss to stick it... Guidelines say 6ft away from each other No mixing of households indoors... Your at a greater risk of getting it from being in the hotel..so its prob doubled the chances by sharing... Again....find a new employer if the cant be arsed to look after employees... Yeah, cos finding a new employer atm would be easy, right?" It might not do any harm to look...even as it is at the moment, | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" Yes, I fully agree
It's impossible to socially distance from someone you're sharing a twin room and bathroom with and you're not going to wear a face mask all evening/night, let's face it. That's the difference. The workplace should be Covid secure, but it cannot be Covid secure to share facilities in a diddy little B&B. If the colleagues are travelling in the same vehicle, they're supposed to be wearing masks all the time, windows open for ventilation and all that jazz, so it does make sense as to why sharing a hotel room is different.
OP - by not disclosing to the hotel that you're from different addresses, your employer has broken H&S law and as another person has said, report to the HSE.
Yes but that would cost me my job.
I just want to stay in a covid secure room."If it's just the 2 of you that would do this instead of a larger pool of stuff, I can see that it could jeopardise your job if you reported them. If you are 1 of many and the company can afford to pay for a room each, I'd definitely recommend speaking with the HSE, firstly anonymously, to get their advice. As a guy in his 50s, you have higher risk than younger guys. It's also responsible that you don't want anyone to be at risk. If you're travelling together, with higher risks, you're already suffering increased risk, for the benefit of the company, so you're making compromises but they aren't. Have you checked if the hotel can do lower rates by negotiation, such as for longer stays, multiple rooms? If there's any flexibility there, it might be more attractive to your employer. Check frequent guest schemes too, as you may get the benefit of rewards if it's in your name, not the other guys. That's nothing to do with the virus but may be a small incidental benefit. | |||
"I think if your roommate ( proposed) is not part of your own family/network ' bubble' then you can't share a room with a collegue as it would ' mix' households.. so I would be saying a flat 'No' personally. I understand that but there's nothing in the November guidelines about it. But there is and it's very clear. You can "work" with workmates during "work" but outside of "work" you are not allowed to mix inside anywhere unless you're also part of a support bubble. Once you leave your "work" activity, be that in an office, van or car then you cannot share the same indoor space with them. Whilst I'm not arguing with the rules, they do seem a bit farcical in that you can work with someone all day but the moment clocking off time comes round you're not allowed to be around then "for safety" Yes, I fully agree
It's impossible to socially distance from someone you're sharing a twin room and bathroom with and you're not going to wear a face mask all evening/night, let's face it. That's the difference. The workplace should be Covid secure, but it cannot be Covid secure to share facilities in a diddy little B&B. If the colleagues are travelling in the same vehicle, they're supposed to be wearing masks all the time, windows open for ventilation and all that jazz, so it does make sense as to why sharing a hotel room is different.
OP - by not disclosing to the hotel that you're from different addresses, your employer has broken H&S law and as another person has said, report to the HSE.
Yes but that would cost me my job.
I just want to stay in a covid secure room.
If it's just the 2 of you that would do this instead of a larger pool of stuff, I can see that it could jeopardise your job if you reported them. If you are 1 of many and the company can afford to pay for a room each, I'd definitely recommend speaking with the HSE, firstly anonymously, to get their advice.
As a guy in his 50s, you have higher risk than younger guys. It's also responsible that you don't want anyone to be at risk. If you're travelling together, with higher risks, you're already suffering increased risk, for the benefit of the company, so you're making compromises but they aren't.
Have you checked if the hotel can do lower rates by negotiation, such as for longer stays, multiple rooms? If there's any flexibility there, it might be more attractive to your employer.
Check frequent guest schemes too, as you may get the benefit of rewards if it's in your name, not the other guys. That's nothing to do with the virus but may be a small incidental benefit. "I actually had the virus and I am the only one out of 12 who work all other the country who is questioning what they are doing by making guys share rooms during the lockdown. So yes my job would definitely be on the line if HSE got involved. Had a row with the hotel manager before. He was saying it's our company's fault . I told him he should of asked about separate households and that it was more his fault. | |||
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"As a Hotel Manager with specific COVID experience, let's put it this way. Local Council authority guidelines will have stated to hotels that no-one can share a room unless they are from the same Social Bubble - eg, Husband & Wife. Otherwise, 2 different people could well place themselves at severe risk, PLUS jeopardise the establishment's health protocols & safety procedures. " Thanks nice to know. | |||
" Thanks I will take this to the hotel tonight." Please not this thread, they'll definitely have a glass up to the wall!  | |||
" Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room." What an awful position to be in OP. I know you probably don't want the hassle but if you're sacked because you insist on separate rooms, you may well be able to claim unfair dismissal, since your refusal was based on following mandatory government measures. | |||
" Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room. What an awful position to be in OP. I know you probably don't want the hassle but if you're sacked because you insist on separate rooms, you may well be able to claim unfair dismissal, since your refusal was based on following mandatory government measures." I have 3 kids and 7 grandkids to buy for at Christmas so I am really stuck to be honest. Its shit that none of the others bother to speak up and say it's wrong. | |||
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" Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room. What an awful position to be in OP. I know you probably don't want the hassle but if you're sacked because you insist on separate rooms, you may well be able to claim unfair dismissal, since your refusal was based on following mandatory government measures." OP should check out the protection for whistleblowers - you can't be sacked for reporting genuine safety issues to the HSE. | |||
"I feel for you mate i really do. I personally would get a mate to contact the HSE and report the hotel so that they wont let you stay in the same room again" Yes I will do that . Thanks | |||
" Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room. What an awful position to be in OP. I know you probably don't want the hassle but if you're sacked because you insist on separate rooms, you may well be able to claim unfair dismissal, since your refusal was based on following mandatory government measures. OP should check out the protection for whistleblowers - you can't be sacked for reporting genuine safety issues to the HSE." They would make me work local for nearly half the wage | |||
" Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room. What an awful position to be in OP. I know you probably don't want the hassle but if you're sacked because you insist on separate rooms, you may well be able to claim unfair dismissal, since your refusal was based on following mandatory government measures. OP should check out the protection for whistleblowers - you can't be sacked for reporting genuine safety issues to the HSE. They would make me work local for nearly half the wage "That doesn't stop the fact both your employer and the hotel is breaking the law, although I do understand your issue. The hotel shouldn't be allowing you and the colleague in the room seeing as they now know the situation, and they should be declining to supply your employer unless they can demonstrate Covid security. | |||
" Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room. What an awful position to be in OP. I know you probably don't want the hassle but if you're sacked because you insist on separate rooms, you may well be able to claim unfair dismissal, since your refusal was based on following mandatory government measures. OP should check out the protection for whistleblowers - you can't be sacked for reporting genuine safety issues to the HSE. They would make me work local for nearly half the wage
That doesn't stop the fact both your employer and the hotel is breaking the law, although I do understand your issue. The hotel shouldn't be allowing you and the colleague in the room seeing as they now know the situation, and they should be declining to supply your employer unless they can demonstrate Covid security."Like I said I had a row with the hotel manager earlier he is blaming my employer for the situation. Yet he took the booking. | |||
" Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room. What an awful position to be in OP. I know you probably don't want the hassle but if you're sacked because you insist on separate rooms, you may well be able to claim unfair dismissal, since your refusal was based on following mandatory government measures. OP should check out the protection for whistleblowers - you can't be sacked for reporting genuine safety issues to the HSE. They would make me work local for nearly half the wage
That doesn't stop the fact both your employer and the hotel is breaking the law, although I do understand your issue. The hotel shouldn't be allowing you and the colleague in the room seeing as they now know the situation, and they should be declining to supply your employer unless they can demonstrate Covid security.
Like I said I had a row with the hotel manager earlier he is blaming my employer for the situation.
Yet he took the booking."The employer is at fault for not booking two rooms; the hotel is at fault for not asking the right questions at the point of booking or at check in, where you should have been asked about your addresses. | |||
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"Please excuse me if I am wrong but under the welfare of workers act ? You are supposed to have some time to yourself by law regardless of the covid restrictions. Could someone please enlighten ?" My company have never done that to be honest with you. | |||
"Please excuse me if I am wrong but under the welfare of workers act ? You are supposed to have some time to yourself by law regardless of the covid restrictions. Could someone please enlighten ? My company have never done that to be honest with you." Maybe you should check it out,tell your work colleague's and if I am right put it to your boss. Am sure the other guys would like there own space. I work away from home regularly and just couldn't share a room at the end of the working day with a work mate. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread maybe C.A.B for some advice. | |||
"Please excuse me if I am wrong but under the welfare of workers act ? You are supposed to have some time to yourself by law regardless of the covid restrictions. Could someone please enlighten ? My company have never done that to be honest with you. Maybe you should check it out,tell your work colleague's and if I am right put it to your boss. Am sure the other guys would like there own space. I work away from home regularly and just couldn't share a room at the end of the working day with a work mate. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread maybe C.A.B for some advice. " That's the problem the other guys are scared of their own shadows. | |||
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"This is the mr talking. I am working away from home this week and I am being told that I have to share a hotel room with my workmate. I cant find anything in writing saying I can't. Need help to fight my corner. Can anyone find any information for me . Busy on a roof "Further to my previous comment, this very much sounds like your employer is trying to save costs, booking only 1 room. With my extensive hotel experience, this would have been a normal occurrence in pre-Covid times, but in light of current circumstances, it's fuelled with all sorts of complications. Not least from your avoidance of COVID rules, the main issue here is you should both be accommodated in separate rooms. Most hotels these days are not using agencies, to avoid the costly Commissions they have to pay (which lessens their profit). Instead, hotels are taking bookings directly from companies and often at good rates to the benefit of all. But here, you could stand up for your rights citing Covid COVID rules; it's a balance between your job, your health and how your company can or will compromise to protect you. As far as the hotel is concerned, in normal times, they'd not balk at placing two guys in a twin bedded room. But in these times, any sensible owner should be questioning why a company behaves in this way as it puts the hotel in a bad light, and could render them to further legal action via the local authorities. You need to find legal help in say C.A.B. or at ACAS. Covid has altered some of the usual employment laws to fit in around the virus but it is complex. As for hotel sanitizing measures, good property management will have clear procedures in place, so rooms will be ultra clean. But two people from differing social bubbles in one hotel room breaks all the rules and makes a mockery of them. Your company is decidedly at fault! | |||
"The only time I’ve ever shared a hotel room with a work mate was when we both wanted sex ! And then there’s all kinds of issues, such as who gets the loyalty points...." Paid in cash i bet too  | |||
" Yes but that would cost me my job. I just want to stay in a covid secure room. What an awful position to be in OP. I know you probably don't want the hassle but if you're sacked because you insist on separate rooms, you may well be able to claim unfair dismissal, since your refusal was based on following mandatory government measures. OP should check out the protection for whistleblowers - you can't be sacked for reporting genuine safety issues to the HSE."
They've specifically stated that nobody must be treated unfairly because of this and that staff are covered.
I like the idea of the local council being encouraged to investigate and I'd probably alert local media too. As the op is doing, it's better to avoid potential problems, including jeopardising his income. | |||
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"Firstly buddy....your a 51 yr old dude who's being made share a hotel for work Tell yer boss to stick it... Guidelines say 6ft away from each other No mixing of households indoors... Your at a greater risk of getting it from being in the hotel..so its prob doubled the chances by sharing... Again....find a new employer if the cant be arsed to look after employees... Easier said than done " Do you work for A R C ? asking for a friend | |||
"Firstly buddy....your a 51 yr old dude who's being made share a hotel for work Tell yer boss to stick it... Guidelines say 6ft away from each other No mixing of households indoors... Your at a greater risk of getting it from being in the hotel..so its prob doubled the chances by sharing... Again....find a new employer if the cant be arsed to look after employees... Easier said than done Do you work for A R C ? asking for a friend" No mate but I do see their Van's around. | |||
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"OP Did you get separate rooms last night or share ?" Hate to share. I wanted to travel everyday . My workmate is happy with the situation or should I say scared of the management. I am just one voice out if 12 of us that work away week in week out. The rest dont seem bothered . I will just get myself in bother if I keep rocking the boat. | |||
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"OP Did you get separate rooms last night or share ?" So who fucked who? | |||
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"First question is "is he bi" Second question is do you fancy him? Third question is............. " I am straight . Not fab straight | |||
"So when you travel i guess in 1 van do you both ware face covering like you should. If you are roofing do you have a Drying room / tea room or use the van? " Yes yes and van. | |||
"Tell your work to fuck off even out of lock down. I work away a lot and refuse to share a room I wouldn't share my room at home with some other bloke from work so I'm hardly gonna want to do it while away, you have to remember they want you to be away a lot more than you will want to be so they should meet your demands. " I am just one voice out of 12 . Got no choice really. | |||
"Tell your work to fuck off even out of lock down. I work away a lot and refuse to share a room I wouldn't share my room at home with some other bloke from work so I'm hardly gonna want to do it while away, you have to remember they want you to be away a lot more than you will want to be so they should meet your demands. I am just one voice out of 12 . Got no choice really." plenty more jobs out there work for some one that appreciates you. | |||
"Tell your work to fuck off even out of lock down. I work away a lot and refuse to share a room I wouldn't share my room at home with some other bloke from work so I'm hardly gonna want to do it while away, you have to remember they want you to be away a lot more than you will want to be so they should meet your demands. I am just one voice out of 12 . Got no choice really. plenty more jobs out there work for some one that appreciates you." At this time of year I cant take that risk. | |||
"So when you travel i guess in 1 van do you both ware face covering like you should. If you are roofing do you have a Drying room / tea room or use the van? Yes yes and van." I would first ask for a drying roo. Tea room as this is a HSE requirement. As for the hotel they like you just want the work so you might have to risk the telling the hotels council environmental department what is going on. But there are laws but you also risk looking your job it's just sh1t. Or ask if you have to self isolate if your work mate has to would you still be paid... | |||
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"I assume you have seen the covid risk assessment. As well as the work risk assessment and method statement." Yes all just peace meals | |||
"So when you travel i guess in 1 van do you both ware face covering like you should. If you are roofing do you have a Drying room / tea room or use the van? Yes yes and van. I would first ask for a drying roo. Tea room as this is a HSE requirement. As for the hotel they like you just want the work so you might have to risk the telling the hotels council environmental department what is going on. But there are laws but you also risk looking your job it's just sh1t. Or ask if you have to self isolate if your work mate has to would you still be paid..." I have the conversation on my phone that if I have to self isolate because of him that i will get paid. If they keep their promise that's another matter. | |||
"I assume you have seen the covid risk assessment. As well as the work risk assessment and method statement. Yes all just peace meals" What do you mean by peace meals? Our company Covid risk assessment is about 25 pages long. I did the one for my wheelchair basketball club and I think that ran to about 10 pages, going into the minutiae of what to do if someone is injured, how to get fellow disabled people in/out of chairs, how to santitise the chairs, how to deal with trips to the toilet and all sorts. | |||
"I assume you have seen the covid risk assessment. As well as the work risk assessment and method statement. Yes all just peace meals What do you mean by peace meals? Our company Covid risk assessment is about 25 pages long. I did the one for my wheelchair basketball club and I think that ran to about 10 pages, going into the minutiae of what to do if someone is injured, how to get fellow disabled people in/out of chairs, how to santitise the chairs, how to deal with trips to the toilet and all sorts." It's just in writing . Only about 30% of it is carried out. | |||
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"Wow!! I never knew there were so many took this crap seriously. If the government said hold your breath and don't breathe for an hour it sounds like there would be a lot of dead bodies because you would all do it. Since this started in March I have never used hand sanitisers, I have worked on people's homes who have confirmed covid, I have drank coffee with them. Never done anything what Hitler says... Sorry Boris says.. I had a test kit given to me, done it and no surprise Negative!!! " Good for you. Hope it doesn't cost you too much when you have isolate. I dont want to have to self isolate it will cost me 1400 quid. | |||
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"In london this week and the travelodge we are booked into insisted we had our own rooms. Well done travelodge. " Excellent news | |||
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"In london this week and the travelodge we are booked into insisted we had our own rooms. Well done travelodge. " As it should be | |||
"id book my own room at my expense. " Wouldnt be worth working away then. I work away from home to make money not to spend it. | |||
"id book my own room at my expense. " So you would spend half you days earnings on a room for the night. | |||
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"OP Did you get separate rooms last night or share ? Hate to share. I wanted to travel everyday . My workmate is happy with the situation or should I say scared of the management. I am just one voice out if 12 of us that work away week in week out. The rest dont seem bothered . I will just get myself in bother if I keep rocking the boat." Stay home and fuck your wife in her white Lacy knickers | |||
"OP Did you get separate rooms last night or share ? Hate to share. I wanted to travel everyday . My workmate is happy with the situation or should I say scared of the management. I am just one voice out if 12 of us that work away week in week out. The rest dont seem bothered . I will just get myself in bother if I keep rocking the boat. Stay home and fuck your wife in her white Lacy knickers "That doesn't get the pennies. Plus I do that when I get home at weekends | |||
"OP your employer is breaking the law. They also know they are breaking the law. They are risking the health of you and every other employee. You mentioned having to buy Christmas presents for kids and Grandkids, what do you think is worth more to them, Presents or actually having their Parents/Grandparents alive? Because that’s the potential risk here. Name and shame the company and I’ll willingly report them to the HSE" We both the virus in april it was more that I didn't want a fine is the place got a spot check. | |||
"OP your employer is breaking the law. They also know they are breaking the law. They are risking the health of you and every other employee. You mentioned having to buy Christmas presents for kids and Grandkids, what do you think is worth more to them, Presents or actually having their Parents/Grandparents alive? Because that’s the potential risk here. Name and shame the company and I’ll willingly report them to the HSE We both the virus in april it was more that I didn't want a fine is the place got a spot check." you are aware there are many cases where people have caught it twice? google fernando gavira - professional athlete | |||
"OP your employer is breaking the law. They also know they are breaking the law. They are risking the health of you and every other employee. You mentioned having to buy Christmas presents for kids and Grandkids, what do you think is worth more to them, Presents or actually having their Parents/Grandparents alive? Because that’s the potential risk here. Name and shame the company and I’ll willingly report them to the HSE We both the virus in april it was more that I didn't want a fine is the place got a spot check. you are aware there are many cases where people have caught it twice? google fernando gavira - professional athlete " Yep 7 people in the world. | |||
