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 ) and you're entitled to it.
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"I'm hoping this is the right place for this so here goes. Like so many other women I'm sure i've been asked to meet so many times since march. I've said no and get either ignored, abused or a variety of other possibilities. Right now we are in a countrywide lockdown so we aren't meant to be meeting anyway. So I was in tier 3 before lockdown and I think we are going back into our tiers when lockdown finishes. I keep being told on here when lockdown finishes we can meet.. 3rd Dec? I honestly don't belive we will be able to meet, but even if we are should we really? As I said I was in tier 3 previously so can 4 weeks of lockdown really reduce our risk that quickly? I totally understand about students coming home, people visiting at Christmas and I think this was one reason we are in countrywide lockdown to ensure we don't have a non contact Christmas. I've hopefully got my son in london coming up to WFH for most of dec/Christmas and he will be not meeting anyone else but his dad/step mum . I'm just pointing this out as I don't want anyone to think I'm perfect and "holier than thou". Even if the government can't legally put us into tiers from 3 Dec and therfore we could legally meet should we really? Surely it's still our responsibility to still reduce our contact with others unless really necessary? Yes to support bubbles, childcare, yes meeting for good mental health etc but meeting for random sex is not an essential. I am "gagging for it" just like the majority I'm sure but it's not essential. I just wonder what everyone's opinions are on meeting from 3rd Dec. I can see status's about "lockdown over in wales so lets meet" surely it's irresponsible? I just think we should all be sensible and think about the greater good.. I don't need the conspiracy theories here whatever reason.. You've got your opinion (even if it's wrong! Joking! ) and you're entitled to it.
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"Christmas will be cancelled and people will blame the government for it Wrong , it’s the publics fault On here for example, how can you have play meets with social distancing ? "  | |||
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"People won’t change, they will always put their own needs first before others it’s just the way it is. A quick flick through all updates will show up numerous people asking for meets. Those people should have their profiles removed. " Yes polite way of saying how selfish the British have become | |||
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"People need to realise that this is like fighting a forest fire. Lockdown is putting a firebreak in place, not putting out the fire. When lockdown ends there will still be pockets of people with the virus, so all the social distancing, masks, hand washing etc will still apply. As we are able to gradually extinguish those pockets it will become simpler, but this virus is here to stay, make no mistake. What will happen is that we will create better ways of reducing its impact by deploying vaccines and other treatments. It will mean that we need to be careful in our social activities for some time, so I can’t see things returning to where they were a year ago for the foreseeable future. Gonna have to buckle up for this ride.!" All very true you describe it better than the government | |||
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"I'm hoping this is the right place for this so here goes. Like so many other women I'm sure i've been asked to meet so many times since march. I've said no and get either ignored, abused or a variety of other possibilities. Right now we are in a countrywide lockdown so we aren't meant to be meeting anyway. So I was in tier 3 before lockdown and I think we are going back into our tiers when lockdown finishes. I keep being told on here when lockdown finishes we can meet.. 3rd Dec? I honestly don't belive we will be able to meet, but even if we are should we really? As I said I was in tier 3 previously so can 4 weeks of lockdown really reduce our risk that quickly? I totally understand about students coming home, people visiting at Christmas and I think this was one reason we are in countrywide lockdown to ensure we don't have a non contact Christmas. I've hopefully got my son in london coming up to WFH for most of dec/Christmas and he will be not meeting anyone else but his dad/step mum . I'm just pointing this out as I don't want anyone to think I'm perfect and "holier than thou". Even if the government can't legally put us into tiers from 3 Dec and therfore we could legally meet should we really? Surely it's still our responsibility to still reduce our contact with others unless really necessary? Yes to support bubbles, childcare, yes meeting for good mental health etc but meeting for random sex is not an essential. I am "gagging for it" just like the majority I'm sure but it's not essential. I just wonder what everyone's opinions are on meeting from 3rd Dec. I can see status's about "lockdown over in wales so lets meet" surely it's irresponsible? I just think we should all be sensible and think about the greater good.. I don't need the conspiracy theories here whatever reason.. You've got your opinion (even if it's wrong! Joking! ) and you're entitled to it.
I'll be back to check any replies! If any) later as I'm off to paint in the house.. (where the fairies live to be precise).
Thanks in advance
Xx "Agree with everything you have said. There are selfish ignorant people who dnt give a damn as long as they get what they want. When all they have to do is try to stay within the rules. Yes its hard ive been on my own months but im still safe and yes id dearly love to meet. | |||
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"I think people should be free to do whatever they want within the boundaries and laws that the government set. For example, before this 2nd lockdown, before the tier system, this site didn't open the meet section, why not? It would have been legal in the rule of 6. I'm not saying I would have met, or wanted to, but what happened to own free will. The fact is, people that want to meet, will meet. Regardless of laws or rules. Everybody defines their own safe, and will act and behave in a way that feels right for them. We need to be treated as adults that are capable of making our own decisions" Yes I agree and as adults with free choice we also need to be adult and take the responsibility that comes with that too, be it removed from fab, blocked by potential future meets, charged £10,000 for breaking rules, live with the knowledge that we may have caused someone vulnerable to catch covid and end their life prematurely. We can exercise our rights but rights have responsibilities and one thing this pandemic has shown me there needs to be a lot of education about our rights to so called adults. | |||
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"I think people should be free to do whatever they want within the boundaries and laws that the government set. For example, before this 2nd lockdown, before the tier system, this site didn't open the meet section, why not? It would have been legal in the rule of 6. I'm not saying I would have met, or wanted to, but what happened to own free will. The fact is, people that want to meet, will meet. Regardless of laws or rules. Everybody defines their own safe, and will act and behave in a way that feels right for them. We need to be treated as adults that are capable of making our own decisions Yes I agree and as adults with free choice we also need to be adult and take the responsibility that comes with that too, be it removed from fab, blocked by potential future meets, charged £10,000 for breaking rules, live with the knowledge that we may have caused someone vulnerable to catch covid and end their life prematurely. We can exercise our rights but rights have responsibilities and one thing this pandemic has shown me there needs to be a lot of education about our rights to so called adults." It's not the responsibility of fab to ensure adults adhere to the rules. The population of fab only make up a small percentage of the UK, and going by the forum users most are adhering to rules. | |||
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"People need to realise that this is like fighting a forest fire. Lockdown is putting a firebreak in place, not putting out the fire. When lockdown ends there will still be pockets of people with the virus, so all the social distancing, masks, hand washing etc will still apply. As we are able to gradually extinguish those pockets it will become simpler, but this virus is here to stay, make no mistake. What will happen is that we will create better ways of reducing its impact by deploying vaccines and other treatments. It will mean that we need to be careful in our social activities for some time, so I can’t see things returning to where they were a year ago for the foreseeable future. Gonna have to buckle up for this ride.!" Having grown up in Australia, this kind of thing really speaks to me. What starts an inferno that destroys homes, kills people, wears the firefighters down? Destroys habitat and kills animals? Sometimes bad luck - dry conditions and lightning. Sometimes carelessness - a barbecue, a cigarette flicked out a window. Sometimes arson. And so we tried to minimise fire risk to ourselves and our community and not put undue burden on firefighters. Same here. Some disease spread is bad luck, some is careless, some is reckless. And we can all do our bit to stop the raging inferno of disease from engulfing us or those around us | |||
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"People need to realise that this is like fighting a forest fire. Lockdown is putting a firebreak in place, not putting out the fire. When lockdown ends there will still be pockets of people with the virus, so all the social distancing, masks, hand washing etc will still apply. As we are able to gradually extinguish those pockets it will become simpler, but this virus is here to stay, make no mistake. What will happen is that we will create better ways of reducing its impact by deploying vaccines and other treatments. It will mean that we need to be careful in our social activities for some time, so I can’t see things returning to where they were a year ago for the foreseeable future. Gonna have to buckle up for this ride.! Having grown up in Australia, this kind of thing really speaks to me. What starts an inferno that destroys homes, kills people, wears the firefighters down? Destroys habitat and kills animals? Sometimes bad luck - dry conditions and lightning. Sometimes carelessness - a barbecue, a cigarette flicked out a window. Sometimes arson. And so we tried to minimise fire risk to ourselves and our community and not put undue burden on firefighters. Same here. Some disease spread is bad luck, some is careless, some is reckless. And we can all do our bit to stop the raging inferno of disease from engulfing us or those around us " This.. Now if only those at the top knew the importance of properly sourced fit for purpose PPE etc, indeed even how to put the bloody stuff on properly that might help.. | |||
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"People need to realise that this is like fighting a forest fire. Lockdown is putting a firebreak in place, not putting out the fire. When lockdown ends there will still be pockets of people with the virus, so all the social distancing, masks, hand washing etc will still apply. As we are able to gradually extinguish those pockets it will become simpler, but this virus is here to stay, make no mistake. What will happen is that we will create better ways of reducing its impact by deploying vaccines and other treatments. It will mean that we need to be careful in our social activities for some time, so I can’t see things returning to where they were a year ago for the foreseeable future. Gonna have to buckle up for this ride.! Having grown up in Australia, this kind of thing really speaks to me. What starts an inferno that destroys homes, kills people, wears the firefighters down? Destroys habitat and kills animals? Sometimes bad luck - dry conditions and lightning. Sometimes carelessness - a barbecue, a cigarette flicked out a window. Sometimes arson. And so we tried to minimise fire risk to ourselves and our community and not put undue burden on firefighters. Same here. Some disease spread is bad luck, some is careless, some is reckless. And we can all do our bit to stop the raging inferno of disease from engulfing us or those around us This.. Now if only those at the top knew the importance of properly sourced fit for purpose PPE etc, indeed even how to put the bloody stuff on properly that might help.." Oh yes. That's in many ways more important. But I can do my bit by not (metaphorically) throwing cigarettes out my window or committing arson, and I can keep on top of bushfire preparedness just in case a fire breaks out near me (hygiene/ distancing in case of outbreak). | |||
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"People need to realise that this is like fighting a forest fire. Lockdown is putting a firebreak in place, not putting out the fire. When lockdown ends there will still be pockets of people with the virus, so all the social distancing, masks, hand washing etc will still apply. As we are able to gradually extinguish those pockets it will become simpler, but this virus is here to stay, make no mistake. What will happen is that we will create better ways of reducing its impact by deploying vaccines and other treatments. It will mean that we need to be careful in our social activities for some time, so I can’t see things returning to where they were a year ago for the foreseeable future. Gonna have to buckle up for this ride.! Having grown up in Australia, this kind of thing really speaks to me. What starts an inferno that destroys homes, kills people, wears the firefighters down? Destroys habitat and kills animals? Sometimes bad luck - dry conditions and lightning. Sometimes carelessness - a barbecue, a cigarette flicked out a window. Sometimes arson. And so we tried to minimise fire risk to ourselves and our community and not put undue burden on firefighters. Same here. Some disease spread is bad luck, some is careless, some is reckless. And we can all do our bit to stop the raging inferno of disease from engulfing us or those around us This.. Now if only those at the top knew the importance of properly sourced fit for purpose PPE etc, indeed even how to put the bloody stuff on properly that might help.. Oh yes. That's in many ways more important. But I can do my bit by not (metaphorically) throwing cigarettes out my window or committing arson, and I can keep on top of bushfire preparedness just in case a fire breaks out near me (hygiene/ distancing in case of outbreak)." | |||
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"I think people should be free to do whatever they want within the boundaries and laws that the government set. For example, before this 2nd lockdown, before the tier system, this site didn't open the meet section, why not? It would have been legal in the rule of 6. I'm not saying I would have met, or wanted to, but what happened to own free will. The fact is, people that want to meet, will meet. Regardless of laws or rules. Everybody defines their own safe, and will act and behave in a way that feels right for them. We need to be treated as adults that are capable of making our own decisions Yes I agree and as adults with free choice we also need to be adult and take the responsibility that comes with that too, be it removed from fab, blocked by potential future meets, charged £10,000 for breaking rules, live with the knowledge that we may have caused someone vulnerable to catch covid and end their life prematurely. We can exercise our rights but rights have responsibilities and one thing this pandemic has shown me there needs to be a lot of education about our rights to so called adults. It's not the responsibility of fab to ensure adults adhere to the rules. The population of fab only make up a small percentage of the UK, and going by the forum users most are adhering to rules. " I didn't say it did, did I? I said it's about free choice, but most seem to assume it's "free", like f#ck it is, it has responsibilities as my post clearly said but you seemed to overlook in an attempt to push Ur idea. | |||
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"Many people seem to spend their time either trying to undermine the public health message by discovering 'loopholes' and being proud of their efforts. It's like watching a small child coming up with a rationale for breaking a rule. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just their lives they're potentially fucking up, but it's not." Yes. This isn't "broken biscuits contain no calories". OK, cute, no, but you do you. This is more like (in summer in Australia) setting a small fire: but it's only a small fire and I'll probably be able to put it out before it rages out of control, so no harm done, right? | |||
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"Many people seem to spend their time either trying to undermine the public health message by discovering 'loopholes' and being proud of their efforts. It's like watching a small child coming up with a rationale for breaking a rule. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just their lives they're potentially fucking up, but it's not. Yes. This isn't "broken biscuits contain no calories". OK, cute, no, but you do you. This is more like (in summer in Australia) setting a small fire: but it's only a small fire and I'll probably be able to put it out before it rages out of control, so no harm done, right?" Yep - and then someone sees you doing it and thinks "well, they're doing it and it's fine, so I'll do it as well...". Fifty little fires later.... | |||
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"Many people seem to spend their time either trying to undermine the public health message by discovering 'loopholes' and being proud of their efforts. It's like watching a small child coming up with a rationale for breaking a rule. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just their lives they're potentially fucking up, but it's not. Yes. This isn't "broken biscuits contain no calories". OK, cute, no, but you do you. This is more like (in summer in Australia) setting a small fire: but it's only a small fire and I'll probably be able to put it out before it rages out of control, so no harm done, right? Yep - and then someone sees you doing it and thinks "well, they're doing it and it's fine, so I'll do it as well...". Fifty little fires later.... " and it only takes one... and they join together and create an even bigger problem. | |||
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"Many people seem to spend their time either trying to undermine the public health message by discovering 'loopholes' and being proud of their efforts. It's like watching a small child coming up with a rationale for breaking a rule. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just their lives they're potentially fucking up, but it's not. Yes. This isn't "broken biscuits contain no calories". OK, cute, no, but you do you. This is more like (in summer in Australia) setting a small fire: but it's only a small fire and I'll probably be able to put it out before it rages out of control, so no harm done, right? Yep - and then someone sees you doing it and thinks "well, they're doing it and it's fine, so I'll do it as well...". Fifty little fires later.... and it only takes one... and they join together and create an even bigger problem." Exactly. S-Club7 happens...  | |||
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"Many people seem to spend their time either trying to undermine the public health message by discovering 'loopholes' and being proud of their efforts. It's like watching a small child coming up with a rationale for breaking a rule. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just their lives they're potentially fucking up, but it's not. Yes. This isn't "broken biscuits contain no calories". OK, cute, no, but you do you. This is more like (in summer in Australia) setting a small fire: but it's only a small fire and I'll probably be able to put it out before it rages out of control, so no harm done, right? Yep - and then someone sees you doing it and thinks "well, they're doing it and it's fine, so I'll do it as well...". Fifty little fires later.... and it only takes one... and they join together and create an even bigger problem. Exactly. S-Club7 happens... "dude wtf  | |||
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"People seem to have different interpretations of bubbles and rule of six. " The fab rules seem to be, as long as you're a popular forum poster then you shouldn't be pulled up on bursting your bubble and creating a new one  | |||
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"People seem to have different interpretations of bubbles and rule of six. The fab rules seem to be, as long as you're a popular forum poster then you shouldn't be pulled up on bursting your bubble and creating a new one "Not too sure what that's a reference to but it does seem that some individuals have intentionally misinterpreted 'bubble' and gone for foam. | |||
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" and it only takes one... and they join together and create an even bigger problem. Exactly. S-Club7 happens...
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"Many people seem to spend their time either trying to undermine the public health message by discovering 'loopholes' and being proud of their efforts. It's like watching a small child coming up with a rationale for breaking a rule. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just their lives they're potentially fucking up, but it's not." | |||
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"I think people should be free to do whatever they want within the boundaries and laws that the government set. For example, before this 2nd lockdown, before the tier system, this site didn't open the meet section, why not? It would have been legal in the rule of 6. I'm not saying I would have met, or wanted to, but what happened to own free will. The fact is, people that want to meet, will meet. Regardless of laws or rules. Everybody defines their own safe, and will act and behave in a way that feels right for them. We need to be treated as adults that are capable of making our own decisions" Exactly this ! X | |||
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"I find it worrying how people are ignoring the lockdown to still "have fun". Would the same people continue to have sex even though they knew they had a STD?" There was a thread the other day about sti clinics/ services. I guess people are worried about spreading some things but not others.  | |||
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"I think people should be free to do whatever they want within the boundaries and laws that the government set. For example, before this 2nd lockdown, before the tier system, this site didn't open the meet section, why not? It would have been legal in the rule of 6. I'm not saying I would have met, or wanted to, but what happened to own free will. The fact is, people that want to meet, will meet. Regardless of laws or rules. Everybody defines their own safe, and will act and behave in a way that feels right for them. We need to be treated as adults that are capable of making our own decisions Exactly this ! X" Thanks x | |||
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"I find it worrying how people are ignoring the lockdown to still "have fun". Would the same people continue to have sex even though they knew they had a STD? There was a thread the other day about sti clinics/ services. I guess people are worried about spreading some things but not others. "I've made extensive use of my blocklist. Meet request PMs, forum posts and Local Updates make it dead easy. It's like a big neon sign with "TWAT" in 6' high letters... | |||
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"People seem to have different interpretations of bubbles and rule of six. " Yes very true It also depends on which tiers you are in for example I was in tier 1 so had a fb bubble (had btw) As I can see family and friends In lockdowns I don't see fb bubble as I prefer my eldest to be my bubble | |||
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"I find it worrying how people are ignoring the lockdown to still "have fun". Would the same people continue to have sex even though they knew they had a STD? There was a thread the other day about sti clinics/ services. I guess people are worried about spreading some things but not others.
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Meet request PMs, forum posts and Local Updates make it dead easy.
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"People won’t change, they will always put their own needs first before others it’s just the way it is. A quick flick through all updates will show up numerous people asking for meets. Those people should have their profiles removed. " Report them instantly to admin. Anyone who has met strangers since April is selfish and dangerous. | |||
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"I think people should be free to do whatever they want within the boundaries and laws that the government set. For example, before this 2nd lockdown, before the tier system, this site didn't open the meet section, why not? It would have been legal in the rule of 6. I'm not saying I would have met, or wanted to, but what happened to own free will. The fact is, people that want to meet, will meet. Regardless of laws or rules. Everybody defines their own safe, and will act and behave in a way that feels right for them. We need to be treated as adults that are capable of making our own decisions Yes I agree and as adults with free choice we also need to be adult and take the responsibility that comes with that too, be it removed from fab, blocked by potential future meets, charged £10,000 for breaking rules, live with the knowledge that we may have caused someone vulnerable to catch covid and end their life prematurely. We can exercise our rights but rights have responsibilities and one thing this pandemic has shown me there needs to be a lot of education about our rights to so called adults. It's not the responsibility of fab to ensure adults adhere to the rules. The population of fab only make up a small percentage of the UK, and going by the forum users most are adhering to rules. I didn't say it did, did I? I said it's about free choice, but most seem to assume it's "free", like f#ck it is, it has responsibilities as my post clearly said but you seemed to overlook in an attempt to push Ur idea." I have no "idea" to push. I find it funny that people recommend an virtual 3rd party to take control of a situation into which is capabilites and authorities are limited. So are you stating people shouldn't have a choice? | |||
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PS. When the situation will be a bit better, (after lockdown, maybe next Jan-Feb) why can`t clubs open for people who can present a negative test from the last 24/48 hours? Even if I`d need to pay £100 for a test, I`d take it as an extra cost for the party and do it, and I`m sure many others too.
We need to find solutions how to live together with this virus, but simply putting a ban on single people`s sexual life for the forseeable future, is not a solution what will work, neither I and many will comply for long... | |||
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"Okay, now I feel I must write out of mysefelf what I think about it.... 1. Boris is not my father, so I do not give a flying shit what he tells me, but I have a common sense for myself. So for me its not about government`s guidelines. 2. I remember back in March, when it was already clear what is coming, there was one last weekend when all clubs were open for business as usual, swinging was "legally allowed". I was planning to go out that weekend, I was super excited to visit a club again after a few weeks break, but decided not to, because I felt that was already much irresponsible thing to do. Since that, I`ve been a good boy, haven`t met anyone, not even from Tinder, and for now I almost forgot how does a pussy look in 3D... 3. But the question need to be asked: for how long? At the beginning, I hoped that it will take 3-4 months and we can get back to normal. Then we`ve been told to wait for the vaccine, it is coming soon. Now the vaccine is almost here, but they say it will take a good while when the general public can have access to it, and measures like social distancing is likely to be stay with us for another year, or even longer. For me it`s clear, that sex with a casual partner and social distancing can`t work together... So another question need to be asked: 4. For how long can you require single people to not to have sex at all? Thinking from a couple`s view, when swinging is a bit of spice on your sexual life, is one thing. From a single person`s perspective swinging, or casual sex is OUR SEXUAL LIFE ITSELF. I`m a person who loves swinger parties and dating apps like Tinder, I had a quite active sexual life, and now I haven`t had sex for over 8 months... I can`t tell you how uptight am I feel myself because of it, and it will be super tough, but I`ll give some further time for this anti-virus fight until the end of the winter. If the vaccine will be available for me, I will take it with no hesitation. BUT. I need to be honest. If nothing gonna change until the end of February, I will take the risk for myself (and sorry, but) for others. And I don`t want to see anyone who lives in a relationship talk to me from a moral highground. Take solidarity first, try it to do not having sex with your partner for a year, and talk to me after. Thanks
PS. When the situation will be a bit better, (after lockdown, maybe next Jan-Feb) why can`t clubs open for people who can present a negative test from the last 24/48 hours? Even if I`d need to pay £100 for a test, I`d take it as an extra cost for the party and do it, and I`m sure many others too.
We need to find solutions how to live together with this virus, but simply putting a ban on single people`s sexual life for the forseeable future, is not a solution what will work, neither I and many will comply for long..."Well said fully agree! X | |||
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"Some people’s sense of worth is entirely wrapped up in whether people find them sexually attractive. This is a difficult time for them but they should use it to read books on improving their self esteem." Yes. I've not had sex since March. I wank. I do other things. It's not ideal, but it's a global health crisis ffs, you have hands and toys. | |||
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"I've not had sex since March. I wank. I do other things. It's not ideal, but it's a global health crisis ffs, you have hands and toys." And for how long are you willing to do it and do not have real sex? Another year? Two? Or maybe your entire life? I also haven`t had sex since March. I give in another 4 months. If it would be a 100% guarantee that real expert doctors would say, let`s see by the time of next June, everything can get back to normal, I`d tight my teeth, and hold my breath and wait. But for me it looks like no one knows what will happen, and we are being told be happy with it to live our life "socially distanced" for the forseeable future. No thanks, it needs to be an end. | |||
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"I've not had sex since March. I wank. I do other things. It's not ideal, but it's a global health crisis ffs, you have hands and toys. And for how long are you willing to do it and do not have real sex? Another year? Two? Or maybe your entire life? I also haven`t had sex since March. I give in another 4 months. If it would be a 100% guarantee that real expert doctors would say, let`s see by the time of next June, everything can get back to normal, I`d tight my teeth, and hold my breath and wait. But for me it looks like no one knows what will happen, and we are being told be happy with it to live our life "socially distanced" for the forseeable future. No thanks, it needs to be an end." As long as it takes | |||
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"As long as it takes "If it`s your honest opinion and you are really willing to give up your real sexual life even for further years, than my feelings towards you are a mixture of a huge respect and a bit of sorry/pity. I (and 99% of human race) are not that saint as you. So it`s better to find a workable solution for this case, coz a blank ban on single people`s sexual life won`t work for long. | |||
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"I'll get crucified for this, im single i meet ppl close to me .... we have been lucky with cobid cases were I live (in Scotland) dont judge ppl for choices they make yous don't know the full circumstances. Yes its a global pandemic... should I duck ? "I suppose the only circumstance we need to know is will you die if you don’t have sex? | |||
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"I suppose the only circumstance we need to know is will you die if you don’t have sex?" No, she definitely won`t die just coz of don`t having sex. Just as we can survive staying in a dark little room all day and night, eat only bread and drink water. We can survive for a while without any kind of joy. The real question is; is that worth it? Coz I`d rather die tomorrow. | |||
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"As long as it takes
If it`s your honest opinion and you are really willing to give up your real sexual life even for further years, than my feelings towards you are a mixture of a huge respect and a bit of sorry/pity.
I (and 99% of human race) are not that saint as you. So it`s better to find a workable solution for this case, coz a blank ban on single people`s sexual life won`t work for long."I value life and health (of myself and others) over sex. | |||
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"I suppose the only circumstance we need to know is will you die if you don’t have sex? No, she definitely won`t die just coz of don`t having sex. Just as we can survive staying in a dark little room all day and night, eat only bread and drink water. We can survive for a while without any kind of joy. The real question is; is that worth it? Coz I`d rather die tomorrow." Is sex the only kind of joy you know? | |||
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"I'll get crucified for this, im single i meet ppl close to me .... we have been lucky with cobid cases were I live (in Scotland) dont judge ppl for choices they make yous don't know the full circumstances. Yes its a global pandemic... should I duck ? "There are to many judgmental people around all jumping on the bandwagon! Good luck to you x | |||
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"Is sex the only kind of joy you know?" No, but surely one of the biggest. And most other best things in life also can`t work together with social distancing, not only sex. | |||
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"Is sex the only kind of joy you know? No, but surely one of the biggest. And most other best things in life also can`t work together with social distancing, not only sex." My life is full of joy, meaning and purpose, and I've had... two or three social outings since lockdown one struck. I'm full on hermit over here with the internet and lots of solitary hobbies. | |||
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"As long as it takes
If it`s your honest opinion and you are really willing to give up your real sexual life even for further years, than my feelings towards you are a mixture of a huge respect and a bit of sorry/pity.
I (and 99% of human race) are not that saint as you. So it`s better to find a workable solution for this case, coz a blank ban on single people`s sexual life won`t work for long.
I value life and health (of myself and others) over sex."Sex aside people are dieing because of covid not from it! Can er patients not getting treated! People committing suicide! Domestic abuse! And it's just the start we have to weigh up the 2 ! | |||
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"As long as it takes
If it`s your honest opinion and you are really willing to give up your real sexual life even for further years, than my feelings towards you are a mixture of a huge respect and a bit of sorry/pity.
I (and 99% of human race) are not that saint as you. So it`s better to find a workable solution for this case, coz a blank ban on single people`s sexual life won`t work for long.
I value life and health (of myself and others) over sex.
Sex aside people are dieing because of covid not from it! Can er patients not getting treated! People committing suicide! Domestic abuse! And it's just the start we have to weigh up the 2 ! "There’s no data to say numbers of suicides are up due to Covid19. | |||
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If it`s your honest opinion and you are really willing to give up your real sexual life even for further years, than my feelings towards you are a mixture of a huge respect and a bit of sorry/pity.
I (and 99% of human race) are not that saint as you. So it`s better to find a workable solution for this case, coz a blank ban on single people`s sexual life won`t work for long.
I value life and health (of myself and others) over sex.
Sex aside people are dieing because of covid not from it! Can er patients not getting treated! People committing suicide! Domestic abuse! And it's just the start we have to weigh up the 2 !
There’s no data to say numbers of suicides are up due to Covid19."Why do people allways want data? Jeez! X | |||
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If it`s your honest opinion and you are really willing to give up your real sexual life even for further years, than my feelings towards you are a mixture of a huge respect and a bit of sorry/pity.
I (and 99% of human race) are not that saint as you. So it`s better to find a workable solution for this case, coz a blank ban on single people`s sexual life won`t work for long.
I value life and health (of myself and others) over sex.
Sex aside people are dieing because of covid not from it! Can er patients not getting treated! People committing suicide! Domestic abuse! And it's just the start we have to weigh up the 2 ! "I'm not sure I ever said "Covid is the only issue exists and everyone else can go jump". I'm aware that cancer and other treatments are being interrupted. I'm aware that domestic abuse is rising, as is homelessness, joblessness, educational deficits/ inequalities and more. None of these things can be appropriately addressed during, and many of them exacerbated by, a raging pandemic. So, no, I'm not meeting, I can do without, because I too want these issues solved and people to get their lives back. If that makes me a goody two shoes bleeding heart whatever, then fine, that's what I am. | |||
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If it`s your honest opinion and you are really willing to give up your real sexual life even for further years, than my feelings towards you are a mixture of a huge respect and a bit of sorry/pity.
I (and 99% of human race) are not that saint as you. So it`s better to find a workable solution for this case, coz a blank ban on single people`s sexual life won`t work for long.
I value life and health (of myself and others) over sex.
Sex aside people are dieing because of covid not from it! Can er patients not getting treated! People committing suicide! Domestic abuse! And it's just the start we have to weigh up the 2 !
There’s no data to say numbers of suicides are up due to Covid19.
Why do people allways want data? Jeez! X"Because data is the way we tell the difference between a fact and someone making shit up. | |||
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"My life is full of joy, meaning and purpose, and I've had... two or three social outings since lockdown one struck. I'm full on hermit over here with the internet and lots of solitary hobbies. " I try to use my time for good too. And as I said, I`ve been fully complied, even stopped swinging coz of covid at the time when clubs were still open and Boris`s advice was "sing Happy Birthday while wash your hands, and you`ll be okay". But I`m honest. I give it another 4 months after that I`m out. I`ve put things on the balance. We talk about a virus with an approx 1% death rate. I agreed to sacrifice most of my joys (not only sex) for one year in case to fight this virus. I won`t do it longer, rather take the 1% risk for myself and (brutally honest) others too. I`m open to all other solutions. Get vaccined, pay for it, pay for weekly test to be able to live my normal life as long as I`m negative. Anything but not give up the best parts of my life for the forseeable future. Coz I really don`t want to get to that point when my joys will be "solitary hobbies". I`d rather die, seriously. | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... " Exactly! I know a lady had face cancer was due treatment start of last lockdown was cancelled now its spread and to late for her! Know of 2 committed suicide! Ffs! It's not all about sex! It's about lives!  x | |||
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" There’s no data to say numbers of suicides are up due to Covid19." No there isn't. I did see something that reported a small increase over last year but the numbers were tiny (I think it was from the Samaritans but I could be wrong). | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... " You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care. | |||
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"My life is full of joy, meaning and purpose, and I've had... two or three social outings since lockdown one struck. I'm full on hermit over here with the internet and lots of solitary hobbies. I try to use my time for good too. And as I said, I`ve been fully complied, even stopped swinging coz of covid at the time when clubs were still open and Boris`s advice was "sing Happy Birthday while wash your hands, and you`ll be okay". But I`m honest. I give it another 4 months after that I`m out. I`ve put things on the balance. We talk about a virus with an approx 1% death rate. I agreed to sacrifice most of my joys (not only sex) for one year in case to fight this virus. I won`t do it longer, rather take the 1% risk for myself and (brutally honest) others too. I`m open to all other solutions. Get vaccined, pay for it, pay for weekly test to be able to live my normal life as long as I`m negative. Anything but not give up the best parts of my life for the forseeable future. Coz I really don`t want to get to that point when my joys will be "solitary hobbies". I`d rather die, seriously." A 1% UK death toll is over 678 000 people... | |||
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" There’s no data to say numbers of suicides are up due to Covid19. No there isn't. I did see something that reported a small increase over last year but the numbers were tiny (I think it was from the Samaritans but I could be wrong). " Ohh that's fan dabby Dooby then! Face palm face palm eye roll! X | |||
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" There’s no data to say numbers of suicides are up due to Covid19. No there isn't. I did see something that reported a small increase over last year but the numbers were tiny (I think it was from the Samaritans but I could be wrong). Ohh that's fan dabby Dooby then! Face palm face palm eye roll! X" It is, isn't it. Suicides are not up much | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... Exactly! I know a lady had face cancer was due treatment start of last lockdown was cancelled now its spread and to late for her! Know of 2 committed suicide! Ffs! It's not all about sex! It's about lives! x"So the more of us who stick to the rules and prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed the better surely? | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care." Ohh dear!!!  | |||
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"They certainly aint bothering about the countless homeless and numbers are increasing because of job losses ... Domestic abuse has soared, kids and adults cant get away.. police doing zilch.... " Covid is the only game in town ,don’t seem to matter all the people losing there jobs , economy in tatters , lives wrecked , long as you have empathy with Covid your in | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... Exactly! I know a lady had face cancer was due treatment start of last lockdown was cancelled now its spread and to late for her! Know of 2 committed suicide! Ffs! It's not all about sex! It's about lives! x
So the more of us who stick to the rules and prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed the better surely?"Yes. Let's save people from delayed treatments, help the NHS, help kids, help victims, by taking this all seriously | |||
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"Think u better check ur facts again for the whole of the UK .... " Best leave all those up there on their moral high ground tbh! X | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... Exactly! I know a lady had face cancer was due treatment start of last lockdown was cancelled now its spread and to late for her! Know of 2 committed suicide! Ffs! It's not all about sex! It's about lives! x
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"A 1% UK death toll is over 678 000 people..." Sorry darling, I tought you have internet, once you`re here. Google it, the lates stats in the UK: 1.37M registered cases, 51,934 deaths. It makes a 3,8% death rates. But all experts agree, that the number of real cases are way higher than the registered data. Someone say even 10x bigger... So the 1% death rate I mentioned maybe even lower. | |||
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"Think u better check ur facts again for the whole of the UK .... Best leave all those up there on their moral high ground tbh! X" Even if it's so, and the quick search I did suggests it's unsubstantiated... What's the cause? There might be a correlation, assuming you're right. But stressful times, economic downturn, and raging pandemic will also cause mental health issues. You can't blame pandemic mitigation strategies, that's illogical. | |||
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"They certainly aint bothering about the countless homeless and numbers are increasing because of job losses ... Domestic abuse has soared, kids and adults cant get away.. police doing zilch.... Covid is the only game in town ,don’t seem to matter all the people losing there jobs , economy in tatters , lives wrecked , long as you have empathy with Covid your in " | |||
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"A 1% UK death toll is over 678 000 people... Sorry darling, I tought you have internet, once you`re here. Google it, the lates stats in the UK: 1.37M registered cases, 51,934 deaths. It makes a 3,8% death rates. But all experts agree, that the number of real cases are way higher than the registered data. Someone say even 10x bigger... So the 1% death rate I mentioned maybe even lower." I'm assuming everyone becomes infected. I'm rounding down (because I'm charitable like that) and dividing the population by 100. If 1% of patients die, my maths is sound. It may be less than 1%. It may be more. We don't know the true rate, without intervention, because we didn't take that route. | |||
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"Still think too many people are focusing on covid alone We are all forgetting other major causes of death such as delayed operations Suicides which are up a lot compared to other years isolation doesn't help this Domestic violence redundancy all help attribute to the death toll as stress levels rising putting strain on the minds or bodies of people Yes covid is a killer and we all need to be careful for our own health and others but we can't just concentrate on covid alone Wonder how many of the goody two shoes people took their annual holiday abroad this year it was amazing how when the government allowed flights loads jumped on them with out a care in the world People and government need to accept that other treatments need to continue not just for covid or there will be a doubling of the 5 yearly death rate average of 627000 total deaths a year and they won't be all covid " Not been on a plane since 2018. Won't until I've been jabbed. If you read above, I've addressed your other points. | |||
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"It may be less than 1%. It may be more. We don't know the true rate, without intervention, because we didn't take that route." Okay, I get you now, sorry misunderstood the last comment. Still, I have a bad news to tell. The death rate of life is 100%, we like it or not. So far, around 70%-75% of the covid`s 1% victims were in a condition that within a very short time they would have die anyway. Is that still a tragedy for the family, friends? Yes it is. Is that a valid reason to ban the 99% from living their life normally, probably forever? It`s a hard question, and don`t think, I`m happy with it. Not at all. As I said, I`d be open for any solution, and agreed to sacrifice most of my joys for a year. But not forever. | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care." .. Yeah but they were old so they don't matter. They're going to die soon anyway. People need to have sex with strangers. It's everyone else's fault, not theirs. Lack of sex is fatal.  | |||
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" There’s no data to say numbers of suicides are up due to Covid19. No there isn't. I did see something that reported a small increase over last year but the numbers were tiny (I think it was from the Samaritans but I could be wrong). Ohh that's fan dabby Dooby then! Face palm face palm eye roll! X" *shrug* Just telling you what I'd read. | |||
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"It may be less than 1%. It may be more. We don't know the true rate, without intervention, because we didn't take that route. Okay, I get you now, sorry misunderstood the last comment. Still, I have a bad news to tell. The death rate of life is 100%, we like it or not. So far, around 70%-75% of the covid`s 1% victims were in a condition that within a very short time they would have die anyway. Is that still a tragedy for the family, friends? Yes it is. Is that a valid reason to ban the 99% from living their life normally, probably forever? It`s a hard question, and don`t think, I`m happy with it. Not at all. As I said, I`d be open for any solution, and agreed to sacrifice most of my joys for a year. But not forever." And all the people disabled by long Covid, most of whom are working age? You might consider the elderly's lives less worthwhile than your social life or libido. Do you extend that to people your own age, who've been suffering for months with new disabilities? | |||
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"It may be less than 1%. It may be more. We don't know the true rate, without intervention, because we didn't take that route. Okay, I get you now, sorry misunderstood the last comment. Still, I have a bad news to tell. The death rate of life is 100%, we like it or not. So far, around 70%-75% of the covid`s 1% victims were in a condition that within a very short time they would have die anyway. Is that still a tragedy for the family, friends? Yes it is. Is that a valid reason to ban the 99% from living their life normally, probably forever? It`s a hard question, and don`t think, I`m happy with it. Not at all. As I said, I`d be open for any solution, and agreed to sacrifice most of my joys for a year. But not forever." It wont be forever | |||
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"Still think too many people are focusing on covid alone We are all forgetting other major causes of death such as delayed operations Suicides which are up a lot compared to other years isolation doesn't help this Domestic violence redundancy all help attribute to the death toll as stress levels rising putting strain on the minds or bodies of people Yes covid is a killer and we all need to be careful for our own health and others but we can't just concentrate on covid alone Wonder how many of the goody two shoes people took their annual holiday abroad this year it was amazing how when the government allowed flights loads jumped on them with out a care in the world People and government need to accept that other treatments need to continue not just for covid or there will be a doubling of the 5 yearly death rate average of 627000 total deaths a year and they won't be all covid Not been on a plane since 2018. Won't until I've been jabbed. If you read above, I've addressed your other points." So you agree that it's not just the peoples fault and government should of put a stricter lockdown in to begin with that way NHS could of coped easier and longer on patients other than covid Government reopened schools Flights abroad even while cases in other countries remained high They encouraged people to eat out by offering 50 percent off They never closed construction or factories providing non essential business So while people can't stick to rules a government cannot agree on rules either it's all do it unless u can't do it | |||
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"This latest lockdown is by far the most pointless effort so far by Boris. No lessons have been learned from the last debacle, no new strategies have been entertained despite a plethora of alternatives. Where is the logic that bears out the no meeting rule? You can't have a coffee with someone but you can go and buy a novelty cup holder from the Range. Don't meet for a quiet meal, but do feel free to go and browse the carpet showrooms. Hard to say don't blame the government when their logic at such huge contradiction. " Said it before and ill say it again Between lockdown 1 and 2 they literally did fuck all. No planning. Nothing. Unforgivable. | |||
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"This latest lockdown is by far the most pointless effort so far by Boris. No lessons have been learned from the last debacle, no new strategies have been entertained despite a plethora of alternatives. Where is the logic that bears out the no meeting rule? You can't have a coffee with someone but you can go and buy a novelty cup holder from the Range. Don't meet for a quiet meal, but do feel free to go and browse the carpet showrooms. Hard to say don't blame the government when their logic at such huge contradiction. Said it before and ill say it again Between lockdown 1 and 2 they literally did fuck all. No planning. Nothing. Unforgivable." Yup. | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care." For goodness sake stop trying to shame people!! | |||
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" Between lockdown 1 and 2 they literally did fuck all. " They did Eat out to help out and let schools and Universities go back. | |||
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" Between lockdown 1 and 2 they literally did fuck all. They did Eat out to help out and let schools and Universities go back. " And the virus laughed and laughed | |||
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" Between lockdown 1 and 2 they literally did fuck all. They did Eat out to help out and let schools and Universities go back. " And no planning whatsoever | |||
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" Between lockdown 1 and 2 they literally did fuck all. They did Eat out to help out and let schools and Universities go back. And the virus laughed and laughed" And then the Government blamed us all for needing to lock down again | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care. For goodness sake stop trying to shame people!! " If I said ..they would have died anyway..I'd feel quite ashamed. | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care. For goodness sake stop trying to shame people!! If I said ..they would have died anyway..I'd feel quite ashamed." I've never said that.?? X | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care. For goodness sake stop trying to shame people!! If I said ..they would have died anyway..I'd feel quite ashamed. I've never said that.?? X" I didn't say you | |||
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"And all the people disabled by long Covid, most of whom are working age? You might consider the elderly's lives less worthwhile than your social life or libido. Do you extend that to people your own age, who've been suffering for months with new disabilities?" Let me remind you again, I`m someone who stopped swinging coz of Covid, before the government was telling me to do it. And I also said, I will give it another 4 months. I`m talking about what will I do, if we need to accept, that there is no solution for this pandemic. I`m already pissed, coz I`m sure that governments don`t act as fast as possible to make the vaccine available. Prince William were pictured with doctors in June, and they said it`s 99% they found the right vaccine. Doctors said human challenge trials could speed up testing significantly, but they did not happen. How many killers, rapists, terrorist we have in jail? The Vienna attacker was a convinced terrorist, let to go free. He should have been in a laboratory with his fellow lowlifes, being used for covid vaccine testing... Now they say even if the tests will be done, producing enough vaccine can take years. Plus it needs to kept in -70 Celsius, and we don`t have enouhg fridge. FFS is that a problem? Politicians say that they need to worry about murderers and terrorists human rights, and can`t make enough fridge globally, but I required to forget sex and every other joy of life wich can`t be done alone or online? So yes, I`m pissed. And I have a feeling, that as more we are happy to comply to sacrifice our own joys of life, as more they won`t give a flying shit about it. It`s the easiest way: keep your distance. Okay, for another 4 months. But that`s it! | |||
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care. For goodness sake stop trying to shame people!! If I said ..they would have died anyway..I'd feel quite ashamed. I've never said that.?? X I didn't say you " Just as well!! X | |||
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"Still think too many people are focusing on covid alone We are all forgetting other major causes of death such as delayed operations Suicides which are up a lot compared to other years isolation doesn't help this Domestic violence redundancy all help attribute to the death toll as stress levels rising putting strain on the minds or bodies of people well said totally agree Yes covid is a killer and we all need to be careful for our own health and others but we can't just concentrate on covid alone Wonder how many of the goody two shoes people took their annual holiday abroad this year it was amazing how when the government allowed flights loads jumped on them with out a care in the world People and government need to accept that other treatments need to continue not just for covid or there will be a doubling of the 5 yearly death rate average of 627000 total deaths a year and they won't be all covid " | |||
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"People need to accept we are all different and have different ways of coping with the virus Some will stick to every rule even the ones that wasn't made clear by government Others will interprete the rules to suit themselves At the end of the day most people have stuck to the rules required to stay safe and consider others Personally I don't judge anyone on their actions Like I said I've worked all through this and come in contact with 100s of people weekly but I'm not allowed to visit a friend who lost his wife earlier in the year So yes I agree with some requirements but disagree with others even though I've stuck to them " Yes just this! I've stuck to the rules wearing the daft mask for my 7 hr shifts at work not meeting! Etc etc! Dont mean I agree with any of it though! Fed up with the ohh so moral people judging others they know nowt all about them!! Having an opinion does not spread the virus!! X | |||
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" Yes just this! I've stuck to the rules wearing the daft mask for my 7 hr shifts at work not meeting! Etc etc! Dont mean I agree with any of it though! Fed up with the ohh so moral people judging others they know nowt all about them!! Having an opinion does not spread the virus!! X" Know what I'm fed up with? The folks who post about their rule breaking and then take the hump when they're judged | |||
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"Oh dear. Seems we've got a few more new members of the "I wanna fuck so I'll interpret rules as I see fit and do my own thing" brigade. And a few of the founder members back as well.
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"Exactly cancer patients ppl with other serious health problems are getting put down to covid 2 ..... actual numbers are not known... young ppl are taking their own lifes because they are getting blamed for spreading it... every government has done wrong, no they arnt to blame for numbers but if they had stopped flights when it 1st came out then it could have been a very different story.. 2 many ppl have taken money over life's and politicians are at the top of the list... You can try and justify your selfishness to yourself however you want but we all know it’s just selfishness. I hope your elderly relatives don’t get this awful virus but if you have the misfortune of having to go to one of their funerals, don’t have the temerity to pretend you care. For goodness sake stop trying to shame people!! If I said ..they would have died anyway..I'd feel quite ashamed. I've never said that.?? X I didn't say you Just as well!! X" | |||
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" Yes just this! I've stuck to the rules wearing the daft mask for my 7 hr shifts at work not meeting! Etc etc! Dont mean I agree with any of it though! Fed up with the ohh so moral people judging others they know nowt all about them!! Having an opinion does not spread the virus!! X Know what I'm fed up with? The folks who post about their rule breaking and then take the hump when they're judged " | |||
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"Oh dear. Seems we've got a few more new members of the "I wanna fuck so I'll interpret rules as I see fit and do my own thing" brigade. And a few of the founder members back as well.
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"I will not apologise for my belief that anyone who can't go a few months without sex, is incredibly selfish. In fact, it's not only selfish but potentially harmful to others. I went almost 3 years without sex in my 20s, with no ill effects. If everyone considered the impact this virus has on others and behaved with compassion, we would hopefully be in a less serious position than the one we find ourselves in. The thing some seem not to grasp, is that the longer this drags on, the greater the impact will be on everyone. More unemployment, more deaths, more financial problems and more people with long term health issues. If that makes me a goody two shoes... I am fine with that. I would rather do everything in my power, to protect as many people as possible." Absolutely | |||
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"I will not apologise for my belief that anyone who can't go a few months without sex, is incredibly selfish. In fact, it's not only selfish but potentially harmful to others. I went almost 3 years without sex in my 20s, with no ill effects. If everyone considered the impact this virus has on others and behaved with compassion, we would hopefully be in a less serious position than the one we find ourselves in. The thing some seem not to grasp, is that the longer this drags on, the greater the impact will be on everyone. More unemployment, more deaths, more financial problems and more people with long term health issues. If that makes me a goody two shoes... I am fine with that. I would rather do everything in my power, to protect as many people as possible." Amen. | |||
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"I will not apologise for my belief that anyone who can't go a few months without sex, is incredibly selfish. In fact, it's not only selfish but potentially harmful to others. I went almost 3 years without sex in my 20s, with no ill effects. If everyone considered the impact this virus has on others and behaved with compassion, we would hopefully be in a less serious position than the one we find ourselves in. The thing some seem not to grasp, is that the longer this drags on, the greater the impact will be on everyone. More unemployment, more deaths, more financial problems and more people with long term health issues. If that makes me a goody two shoes... I am fine with that. I would rather do everything in my power, to protect as many people as possible." | |||
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"I'm hoping this is the right place for this so here goes. Like so many other women I'm sure i've been asked to meet so many times since march. I've said no and get either ignored, abused or a variety of other possibilities. Right now we are in a countrywide lockdown so we aren't meant to be meeting anyway. So I was in tier 3 before lockdown and I think we are going back into our tiers when lockdown finishes. I keep being told on here when lockdown finishes we can meet.. 3rd Dec? I honestly don't belive we will be able to meet, but even if we are should we really? As I said I was in tier 3 previously so can 4 weeks of lockdown really reduce our risk that quickly? I totally understand about students coming home, people visiting at Christmas and I think this was one reason we are in countrywide lockdown to ensure we don't have a non contact Christmas. I've hopefully got my son in london coming up to WFH for most of dec/Christmas and he will be not meeting anyone else but his dad/step mum . I'm just pointing this out as I don't want anyone to think I'm perfect and "holier than thou". Even if the government can't legally put us into tiers from 3 Dec and therfore we could legally meet should we really? Surely it's still our responsibility to still reduce our contact with others unless really necessary? Yes to support bubbles, childcare, yes meeting for good mental health etc but meeting for random sex is not an essential. I am "gagging for it" just like the majority I'm sure but it's not essential. I just wonder what everyone's opinions are on meeting from 3rd Dec. I can see status's about "lockdown over in wales so lets meet" surely it's irresponsible? I just think we should all be sensible and think about the greater good.. I don't need the conspiracy theories here whatever reason.. You've got your opinion (even if it's wrong! Joking! ) and you're entitled to it.
I'll be back to check any replies! If any) later as I'm off to paint in the house.. (where the fairies live to be precise).
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Xx "Hi there...... I can understand peoples frustration of not meeting. It fun naughty and hell you get rid of alot of stress lol .BUT! NO we shouldn't be meeting as its certainly a way to spread the virus .there are some lovely genuine people on here ... who agree and good chat, banter, cams etc we have had some good laughs etc etc etc .I want to keep my family safe and ive had quite a few wanting to meet and those, well, they aren't worth worrying about well they are stupid sorry my option.. we"ll get back to normality at some point .I'm missing the clubs etc but when we can meet again fireworks cause it'll be hot.. #stay safe | |||
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"I'm hoping this is the right place for this so here goes. Like so many other women I'm sure i've been asked to meet so many times since march. I've said no and get either ignored, abused or a variety of other possibilities. Right now we are in a countrywide lockdown so we aren't meant to be meeting anyway. So I was in tier 3 before lockdown and I think we are going back into our tiers when lockdown finishes. I keep being told on here when lockdown finishes we can meet.. 3rd Dec? I honestly don't belive we will be able to meet, but even if we are should we really? As I said I was in tier 3 previously so can 4 weeks of lockdown really reduce our risk that quickly? I totally understand about students coming home, people visiting at Christmas and I think this was one reason we are in countrywide lockdown to ensure we don't have a non contact Christmas. I've hopefully got my son in london coming up to WFH for most of dec/Christmas and he will be not meeting anyone else but his dad/step mum . I'm just pointing this out as I don't want anyone to think I'm perfect and "holier than thou". Even if the government can't legally put us into tiers from 3 Dec and therfore we could legally meet should we really? Surely it's still our responsibility to still reduce our contact with others unless really necessary? Yes to support bubbles, childcare, yes meeting for good mental health etc but meeting for random sex is not an essential. I am "gagging for it" just like the majority I'm sure but it's not essential. I just wonder what everyone's opinions are on meeting from 3rd Dec. I can see status's about "lockdown over in wales so lets meet" surely it's irresponsible? I just think we should all be sensible and think about the greater good.. I don't need the conspiracy theories here whatever reason.. You've got your opinion (even if it's wrong! Joking! ) and you're entitled to it.
I'll be back to check any replies! If any) later as I'm off to paint in the house.. (where the fairies live to be precise).
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"People won’t change, they will always put their own needs first before others it’s just the way it is. A quick flick through all updates will show up numerous people asking for meets. Those people should have their profiles removed. " Needs or wants... | |||
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"I think people should be free to do whatever they want within the boundaries and laws that the government set. For example, before this 2nd lockdown, before the tier system, this site didn't open the meet section, why not? It would have been legal in the rule of 6. I'm not saying I would have met, or wanted to, but what happened to own free will. The fact is, people that want to meet, will meet. Regardless of laws or rules. Everybody defines their own safe, and will act and behave in a way that feels right for them. We need to be treated as adults that are capable of making our own decisions Yes I agree and as adults with free choice we also need to be adult and take the responsibility that comes with that too, be it removed from fab, blocked by potential future meets, charged £10,000 for breaking rules, live with the knowledge that we may have caused someone vulnerable to catch covid and end their life prematurely. We can exercise our rights but rights have responsibilities and one thing this pandemic has shown me there needs to be a lot of education about our rights to so called adults." People don't take responsibility for their actions in other parts of their lives, what makes you think they will over covid. | |||
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"Okay, now I feel I must write out of mysefelf what I think about it.... 1. Boris is not my father, so I do not give a flying shit what he tells me, but I have a common sense for myself. So for me its not about government`s guidelines. 2. I remember back in March, when it was already clear what is coming, there was one last weekend when all clubs were open for business as usual, swinging was "legally allowed". I was planning to go out that weekend, I was super excited to visit a club again after a few weeks break, but decided not to, because I felt that was already much irresponsible thing to do. Since that, I`ve been a good boy, haven`t met anyone, not even from Tinder, and for now I almost forgot how does a pussy look in 3D... 3. But the question need to be asked: for how long? At the beginning, I hoped that it will take 3-4 months and we can get back to normal. Then we`ve been told to wait for the vaccine, it is coming soon. Now the vaccine is almost here, but they say it will take a good while when the general public can have access to it, and measures like social distancing is likely to be stay with us for another year, or even longer. For me it`s clear, that sex with a casual partner and social distancing can`t work together... So another question need to be asked: 4. For how long can you require single people to not to have sex at all? Thinking from a couple`s view, when swinging is a bit of spice on your sexual life, is one thing. From a single person`s perspective swinging, or casual sex is OUR SEXUAL LIFE ITSELF. I`m a person who loves swinger parties and dating apps like Tinder, I had a quite active sexual life, and now I haven`t had sex for over 8 months... I can`t tell you how uptight am I feel myself because of it, and it will be super tough, but I`ll give some further time for this anti-virus fight until the end of the winter. If the vaccine will be available for me, I will take it with no hesitation. BUT. I need to be honest. If nothing gonna change until the end of February, I will take the risk for myself (and sorry, but) for others. And I don`t want to see anyone who lives in a relationship talk to me from a moral highground. Take solidarity first, try it to do not having sex with your partner for a year, and talk to me after. Thanks
PS. When the situation will be a bit better, (after lockdown, maybe next Jan-Feb) why can`t clubs open for people who can present a negative test from the last 24/48 hours? Even if I`d need to pay £100 for a test, I`d take it as an extra cost for the party and do it, and I`m sure many others too.
We need to find solutions how to live together with this virus, but simply putting a ban on single people`s sexual life for the forseeable future, is not a solution what will work, neither I and many will comply for long..."What a load of shite..... I have a few friends who are married, they haven't had sex for several years due to work patterns. So that section of your statement doesn't really work. Nice try though. | |||
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"Oh dear. Seems we've got a few more new members of the "I wanna fuck so I'll interpret rules as I see fit and do my own thing" brigade. And a few of the founder members back as well.
And yup, I'm a proud member of the "moral high ground club". "Me too! I worked from home but in the first week had COVID which wiped me out and I'm still suffering with fatigue and breathing issues 8mths on. I started a job as an essential worker at the beginning of October and we were encouraged not to wear masks. Over the last few weeks we had 80 staff off self isolating as people came in with COVID and from last week we had to wear masks. Every day I'm getting messages asking for meets and although I am horny as hell I'm not meeting as I don't want anyone (or myself) to suffer from COVID | |||
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"I find it worrying how people are ignoring the lockdown to still "have fun". Would the same people continue to have sex even though they knew they had a STD? There was a thread the other day about sti clinics/ services. I guess people are worried about spreading some things but not others. "
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"Okay, now I feel I must write out of mysefelf what I think about it.... 1. Boris is not my father, so I do not give a flying shit what he tells me, but I have a common sense for myself. So for me its not about government`s guidelines. 2. I remember back in March, when it was already clear what is coming, there was one last weekend when all clubs were open for business as usual, swinging was "legally allowed". I was planning to go out that weekend, I was super excited to visit a club again after a few weeks break, but decided not to, because I felt that was already much irresponsible thing to do. Since that, I`ve been a good boy, haven`t met anyone, not even from Tinder, and for now I almost forgot how does a pussy look in 3D... 3. But the question need to be asked: for how long? At the beginning, I hoped that it will take 3-4 months and we can get back to normal. Then we`ve been told to wait for the vaccine, it is coming soon. Now the vaccine is almost here, but they say it will take a good while when the general public can have access to it, and measures like social distancing is likely to be stay with us for another year, or even longer. For me it`s clear, that sex with a casual partner and social distancing can`t work together... So another question need to be asked: 4. For how long can you require single people to not to have sex at all? Thinking from a couple`s view, when swinging is a bit of spice on your sexual life, is one thing. From a single person`s perspective swinging, or casual sex is OUR SEXUAL LIFE ITSELF. I`m a person who loves swinger parties and dating apps like Tinder, I had a quite active sexual life, and now I haven`t had sex for over 8 months... I can`t tell you how uptight am I feel myself because of it, and it will be super tough, but I`ll give some further time for this anti-virus fight until the end of the winter. If the vaccine will be available for me, I will take it with no hesitation. BUT. I need to be honest. If nothing gonna change until the end of February, I will take the risk for myself (and sorry, but) for others. And I don`t want to see anyone who lives in a relationship talk to me from a moral highground. Take solidarity first, try it to do not having sex with your partner for a year, and talk to me after. Thanks
PS. When the situation will be a bit better, (after lockdown, maybe next Jan-Feb) why can`t clubs open for people who can present a negative test from the last 24/48 hours? Even if I`d need to pay £100 for a test, I`d take it as an extra cost for the party and do it, and I`m sure many others too.
We need to find solutions how to live together with this virus, but simply putting a ban on single people`s sexual life for the forseeable future, is not a solution what will work, neither I and many will comply for long...
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"Okay, now I feel I must write out of mysefelf what I think about it.... 1. Boris is not my father, so I do not give a flying shit what he tells me, but I have a common sense for myself. So for me its not about government`s guidelines. 2. I remember back in March, when it was already clear what is coming, there was one last weekend when all clubs were open for business as usual, swinging was "legally allowed". I was planning to go out that weekend, I was super excited to visit a club again after a few weeks break, but decided not to, because I felt that was already much irresponsible thing to do. Since that, I`ve been a good boy, haven`t met anyone, not even from Tinder, and for now I almost forgot how does a pussy look in 3D... 3. But the question need to be asked: for how long? At the beginning, I hoped that it will take 3-4 months and we can get back to normal. Then we`ve been told to wait for the vaccine, it is coming soon. Now the vaccine is almost here, but they say it will take a good while when the general public can have access to it, and measures like social distancing is likely to be stay with us for another year, or even longer. For me it`s clear, that sex with a casual partner and social distancing can`t work together... So another question need to be asked: 4. For how long can you require single people to not to have sex at all? Thinking from a couple`s view, when swinging is a bit of spice on your sexual life, is one thing. From a single person`s perspective swinging, or casual sex is OUR SEXUAL LIFE ITSELF. I`m a person who loves swinger parties and dating apps like Tinder, I had a quite active sexual life, and now I haven`t had sex for over 8 months... I can`t tell you how uptight am I feel myself because of it, and it will be super tough, but I`ll give some further time for this anti-virus fight until the end of the winter. If the vaccine will be available for me, I will take it with no hesitation. BUT. I need to be honest. If nothing gonna change until the end of February, I will take the risk for myself (and sorry, but) for others. And I don`t want to see anyone who lives in a relationship talk to me from a moral highground. Take solidarity first, try it to do not having sex with your partner for a year, and talk to me after. Thanks
PS. When the situation will be a bit better, (after lockdown, maybe next Jan-Feb) why can`t clubs open for people who can present a negative test from the last 24/48 hours? Even if I`d need to pay £100 for a test, I`d take it as an extra cost for the party and do it, and I`m sure many others too.
We need to find solutions how to live together with this virus, but simply putting a ban on single people`s sexual life for the forseeable future, is not a solution what will work, neither I and many will comply for long...
What a load of shite.....
I have a few friends who are married, they haven't had sex for several years due to work patterns.
So that section of your statement doesn't really work. Nice try though."It's just entitlement. That they should be able to have sex with anyone they want to. A simple solution to someone who feels the world has come to the end of they haven't had sex for a year is find one regular person to make a bubble. Think of all those thousands of single guys on fab....one year? pppfffttt....lol | |||
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"Okay, now I feel I must write out of mysefelf what I think about it.... 1. Boris is not my father, so I do not give a flying shit what he tells me, but I have a common sense for myself. So for me its not about government`s guidelines. 2. I remember back in March, when it was already clear what is coming, there was one last weekend when all clubs were open for business as usual, swinging was "legally allowed". I was planning to go out that weekend, I was super excited to visit a club again after a few weeks break, but decided not to, because I felt that was already much irresponsible thing to do. Since that, I`ve been a good boy, haven`t met anyone, not even from Tinder, and for now I almost forgot how does a pussy look in 3D... 3. But the question need to be asked: for how long? At the beginning, I hoped that it will take 3-4 months and we can get back to normal. Then we`ve been told to wait for the vaccine, it is coming soon. Now the vaccine is almost here, but they say it will take a good while when the general public can have access to it, and measures like social distancing is likely to be stay with us for another year, or even longer. For me it`s clear, that sex with a casual partner and social distancing can`t work together... So another question need to be asked: 4. For how long can you require single people to not to have sex at all? Thinking from a couple`s view, when swinging is a bit of spice on your sexual life, is one thing. From a single person`s perspective swinging, or casual sex is OUR SEXUAL LIFE ITSELF. I`m a person who loves swinger parties and dating apps like Tinder, I had a quite active sexual life, and now I haven`t had sex for over 8 months... I can`t tell you how uptight am I feel myself because of it, and it will be super tough, but I`ll give some further time for this anti-virus fight until the end of the winter. If the vaccine will be available for me, I will take it with no hesitation. BUT. I need to be honest. If nothing gonna change until the end of February, I will take the risk for myself (and sorry, but) for others. And I don`t want to see anyone who lives in a relationship talk to me from a moral highground. Take solidarity first, try it to do not having sex with your partner for a year, and talk to me after. Thanks
PS. When the situation will be a bit better, (after lockdown, maybe next Jan-Feb) why can`t clubs open for people who can present a negative test from the last 24/48 hours? Even if I`d need to pay £100 for a test, I`d take it as an extra cost for the party and do it, and I`m sure many others too.
We need to find solutions how to live together with this virus, but simply putting a ban on single people`s sexual life for the forseeable future, is not a solution what will work, neither I and many will comply for long...
What a load of shite.....
I have a few friends who are married, they haven't had sex for several years due to work patterns.
So that section of your statement doesn't really work. Nice try though.
It's just entitlement. That they should be able to have sex with anyone they want to. A simple solution to someone who feels the world has come to the end of they haven't had sex for a year is find one regular person to make a bubble.
Think of all those thousands of single guys on fab....one year? pppfffttt....lol"Think u find it's nothing to do with not having sex! I'm sure everyone could go without ! I did for 14 years just pleasing myself so to speak! As I've said on this thread Im complying! No meets wearing the mask etc tbh my lifestyle has not been affected by the restrictions much! But what does concern me as I've stated previously the people dieing/ suffering because of covid but Not from covid really does concern me greatly! X | |||
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" It's just entitlement. That they should be able to have sex with anyone they want to. A simple solution to someone who feels the world has come to the end of they haven't had sex for a year is find one regular person to make a bubble. Think of all those thousands of single guys on fab....one year? pppfffttt....lol" Yes, exactly, it`s my entitlement that i can have sex with anyone I want to. (As long as she wants it too, of course. ) It`s called freedom. Or we van go back to the Middle Ages, maybe sharia law so I can have sex only if I have a spouse.
But I understand, that we are in special times coz of this fucking covid. And as I said, I still comply. But won`t do it forever.
And what pisses me off, that I hear more and more people telling: we need to learn to live with the "new normal". Which means social distancing for the forseeable future. And many seems to be okay with it. I`m not. We need to find other solutions how to fight this virus and protect the vulnerable than learn to live without joy.
And it`s not only for me to be able to have occasional sex, but also for the economy to survive. Why don`t they set up testing points, (not from NHS money, but paid ones) so if someone can present a 24/48 hours, fresh negative test, that person can go and live a normal life? I`d do my test every Thursday, so I could have a normal weekend. Many more would do the same, and it would help the economy.
Why we haven`t done human challenge trials, if doctors agree on that it would speed up the process of vaccines? (It`s maybe sorted for now, but I`m sure Covid19 is not the last pandemic we facing.) Use the murderers, rapist, terrorist for that. We should not give a shit about their human rights, they don`t deserve it, its payback time.
So I comply, I haven`t met anyone for 8 months, but I won`t accept "social distancing for the forseeable future" as the solution. We need to force other solutions. | |||
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"Challenge trials. Ok, an extremely healthy 18 year old signs up to a challenge trial. Deliberately exposed to a pathogen which is known to kill. Risk to him, very low. Oops the vaccine didn't work on him, he's one of those rare ones. Oops it turns out he reacted badly to Covid against the odds. He's dead. ... This is why we don't do challenge trials " Theres an irish company after developing one of these.... It's being funded by the british government and itll start in January pending approval.... | |||
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"Challenge trials. Ok, an extremely healthy 18 year old signs up to a challenge trial. Deliberately exposed to a pathogen which is known to kill. Risk to him, very low. Oops the vaccine didn't work on him, he's one of those rare ones. Oops it turns out he reacted badly to Covid against the odds. He's dead. ... This is why we don't do challenge trials Theres an irish company after developing one of these.... It's being funded by the british government and itll start in January pending approval.... " I'm aware. I'm also aware it's controversial and some research scientists consider it irresponsible and unethical. | |||
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"I will not apologise for my belief that anyone who can't go a few months without sex, is incredibly selfish. In fact, it's not only selfish but potentially harmful to others. I went almost 3 years without sex in my 20s, with no ill effects. If everyone considered the impact this virus has on others and behaved with compassion, we would hopefully be in a less serious position than the one we find ourselves in. The thing some seem not to grasp, is that the longer this drags on, the greater the impact will be on everyone. More unemployment, more deaths, more financial problems and more people with long term health issues. If that makes me a goody two shoes... I am fine with that. I would rather do everything in my power, to protect as many people as possible."
As it's been raised in a few other posts over the weeks, do those who take the idea of meeting and putting others health at risk with covid take the same stance with STIs?
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"Challenge trials. Ok, an extremely healthy 18 year old signs up to a challenge trial. Deliberately exposed to a pathogen which is known to kill. Risk to him, very low. Oops the vaccine didn't work on him, he's one of those rare ones. Oops it turns out he reacted badly to Covid against the odds. He's dead. ... This is why we don't do challenge trials Theres an irish company after developing one of these.... It's being funded by the british government and itll start in January pending approval.... I'm aware. I'm also aware it's controversial and some research scientists consider it irresponsible and unethical." Yes...its all pending approval... I hope it doesnt get the go ahead.... But it seems a likely scenario that it will | |||
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" It's just entitlement. That they should be able to have sex with anyone they want to. A simple solution to someone who feels the world has come to the end of they haven't had sex for a year is find one regular person to make a bubble. Think of all those thousands of single guys on fab....one year? pppfffttt....lol Yes, exactly, it`s my entitlement that i can have sex with anyone I want to. (As long as she wants it too, of course. ) It`s called freedom. Or we van go back to the Middle Ages, maybe sharia law so I can have sex only if I have a spouse.
But I understand, that we are in special times coz of this fucking covid. And as I said, I still comply. But won`t do it forever.
And what pisses me off, that I hear more and more people telling: we need to learn to live with the "new normal". Which means social distancing for the forseeable future. And many seems to be okay with it. I`m not. We need to find other solutions how to fight this virus and protect the vulnerable than learn to live without joy.
And it`s not only for me to be able to have occasional sex, but also for the economy to survive. Why don`t they set up testing points, (not from NHS money, but paid ones) so if someone can present a 24/48 hours, fresh negative test, that person can go and live a normal life? I`d do my test every Thursday, so I could have a normal weekend. Many more would do the same, and it would help the economy.
Why we haven`t done human challenge trials, if doctors agree on that it would speed up the process of vaccines? (It`s maybe sorted for now, but I`m sure Covid19 is not the last pandemic we facing.) Use the murderers, rapist, terrorist for that. We should not give a shit about their human rights, they don`t deserve it, its payback time.
So I comply, I haven`t met anyone for 8 months, but I won`t accept "social distancing for the forseeable future" as the solution. We need to force other solutions."This freedom you talk about has responsibilities, which often limits 'your' freedom. Something to consider. | |||
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" It's just entitlement. That they should be able to have sex with anyone they want to. A simple solution to someone who feels the world has come to the end of they haven't had sex for a year is find one regular person to make a bubble. Think of all those thousands of single guys on fab....one year? pppfffttt....lol Yes, exactly, it`s my entitlement that i can have sex with anyone I want to. (As long as she wants it too, of course. ) It`s called freedom. Or we van go back to the Middle Ages, maybe sharia law so I can have sex only if I have a spouse.
But I understand, that we are in special times coz of this fucking covid. And as I said, I still comply. But won`t do it forever.
And what pisses me off, that I hear more and more people telling: we need to learn to live with the "new normal". Which means social distancing for the forseeable future. And many seems to be okay with it. I`m not. We need to find other solutions how to fight this virus and protect the vulnerable than learn to live without joy.
And it`s not only for me to be able to have occasional sex, but also for the economy to survive. Why don`t they set up testing points, (not from NHS money, but paid ones) so if someone can present a 24/48 hours, fresh negative test, that person can go and live a normal life? I`d do my test every Thursday, so I could have a normal weekend. Many more would do the same, and it would help the economy.
Why we haven`t done human challenge trials, if doctors agree on that it would speed up the process of vaccines? (It`s maybe sorted for now, but I`m sure Covid19 is not the last pandemic we facing.) Use the murderers, rapist, terrorist for that. We should not give a shit about their human rights, they don`t deserve it, its payback time.
So I comply, I haven`t met anyone for 8 months, but I won`t accept "social distancing for the forseeable future" as the solution. We need to force other solutions."I was with u till u mentioned using murderers etc., they do of course have human rights! X | |||
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"Challenge trials. Ok, an extremely healthy 18 year old signs up to a challenge trial. Deliberately exposed to a pathogen which is known to kill. Risk to him, very low. Oops the vaccine didn't work on him, he's one of those rare ones. Oops it turns out he reacted badly to Covid against the odds. He's dead. ... This is why we don't do challenge trials " Thats why I said use murderers, rapists, terrorist. Whatever happens, win-win. The same governments send innocent people to die to wars. And they are so f...ink sensitive with the human rights of murderers. I know, the current law doesnt allows it, so its time to change that law. | |||
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"Challenge trials. Ok, an extremely healthy 18 year old signs up to a challenge trial. Deliberately exposed to a pathogen which is known to kill. Risk to him, very low. Oops the vaccine didn't work on him, he's one of those rare ones. Oops it turns out he reacted badly to Covid against the odds. He's dead. ... This is why we don't do challenge trials Thats why I said use murderers, rapists, terrorist. Whatever happens, win-win. The same governments send innocent people to die to wars. And they are so f...ink sensitive with the human rights of murderers. I know, the current law doesnt allows it, so its time to change that law." Yeah they still have human rights and doing experiments on people we deem lesser is something that the Nazis did. | |||
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"Challenge trials. Ok, an extremely healthy 18 year old signs up to a challenge trial. Deliberately exposed to a pathogen which is known to kill. Risk to him, very low. Oops the vaccine didn't work on him, he's one of those rare ones. Oops it turns out he reacted badly to Covid against the odds. He's dead. ... This is why we don't do challenge trials Thats why I said use murderers, rapists, terrorist. Whatever happens, win-win. The same governments send innocent people to die to wars. And they are so f...ink sensitive with the human rights of murderers. I know, the current law doesnt allows it, so its time to change that law." So we use murderers as guinea pigs. One of them dies and it later emerges he was wrongly convicted? | |||
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" I was with u till u mentioned using murderers etc., they do of course have human rights! X"Then we will not agree on this. They should not have human rights at all. For the sake and safety of others, who deserve to be called "human". Murderers, rapists, terrorist don`t deserve it. On the other hand, challenge trials could go ahaed by paid people too. I mean bloody well paid. Experts said we`d need 30K people for it. Lets pay £50K each. £1.5 billion is nothing compare to the economical loss caused by this pandemic. And I`ll put my body where my mouth is, pay me £50K, and you can infect me tomorrow. | |||
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" I was with u till u mentioned using murderers etc., they do of course have human rights! X
Then we will not agree on this. They should not have human rights at all. For the sake and safety of others, who deserve to be called "human". Murderers, rapists, terrorist don`t deserve it.
On the other hand, challenge trials could go ahaed by paid people too. I mean bloody well paid. Experts said we`d need 30K people for it. Lets pay £50K each. £1.5 billion is nothing compare to the economical loss caused by this pandemic.
And I`ll put my body where my mouth is, pay me £50K, and you can infect me tomorrow."Yes that's fine if people are willing up to them ! X | |||
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" I was with u till u mentioned using murderers etc., they do of course have human rights! X
Then we will not agree on this. They should not have human rights at all. For the sake and safety of others, who deserve to be called "human". Murderers, rapists, terrorist don`t deserve it.
On the other hand, challenge trials could go ahaed by paid people too. I mean bloody well paid. Experts said we`d need 30K people for it. Lets pay £50K each. £1.5 billion is nothing compare to the economical loss caused by this pandemic.
And I`ll put my body where my mouth is, pay me £50K, and you can infect me tomorrow."I suppose it would be churlish to point out at this time the convicted murderer who saved lives at the tower bridge attack? | |||
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"Nazis chosed people for that according to their race. You can`t compare the two. Its a different topic but, this current liberal system which thinks if we treat jackals as lap dogs then they will behave like puppies, is utterly bad. Actually it causes deaths of innocent people too, just like COvid. Every single people who`s been murdered/r...ed by a recidivist who has been in jail, but let go free by this liberal system is the victim of this stupid law. And there are thousands of victims like them." I believe I just did compare the two. | |||
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"Challenge trials. Ok, an extremely healthy 18 year old signs up to a challenge trial. Deliberately exposed to a pathogen which is known to kill. Risk to him, very low. Oops the vaccine didn't work on him, he's one of those rare ones. Oops it turns out he reacted badly to Covid against the odds. He's dead. ... This is why we don't do challenge trials Thats why I said use murderers, rapists, terrorist. Whatever happens, win-win. The same governments send innocent people to die to wars. And they are so f...ink sensitive with the human rights of murderers. I know, the current law doesnt allows it, so its time to change that law. So we use murderers as guinea pigs. One of them dies and it later emerges he was wrongly convicted?" Exactly this! Which is y I will never think bringing back capital punishment is a good idea ! But that's another topic! X | |||
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" suppose it would be churlish to point out at this time the convicted murderer who saved lives at the tower bridge attack?" And if I remember right, the terrorist was just released from jail, right? Just like the Vienna attacker recently. They were both charged with planning terror attacks previously. Maybe we could have better use of them in a laboratory for vaccine testing, than let them go free and kill innocent people. But let`s celebrate the human rights of the lowest lowlife, meanwhile we should be okay with it to give up our own freedom... Okay, I`m off, good day everyone. | |||
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" suppose it would be churlish to point out at this time the convicted murderer who saved lives at the tower bridge attack? And if I remember right, the terrorist was just released from jail, right? Just like the Vienna attacker recently. They were both charged with planning terror attacks previously. Maybe we could have better use of them in a laboratory for vaccine testing, than let them go free and kill innocent people. But let`s celebrate the human rights of the lowest lowlife, meanwhile we should be okay with it to give up our own freedom... Okay, I`m off, good day everyone. "Spectacularly missing my point | |||
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"So after reading a lot of comments... What do ye think would be the best solution for this virus... " Wont be popular but personally think just get on with it! X | |||
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"So after reading a lot of comments... What do ye think would be the best solution for this virus... " An effective track trace isolate and support system Evidence based policy Close the borders Compulsory government run quarantine More masking in schools, potentially other mitigation strategies Clearer communication from on high Protect all of us from death *and other medium to long term effects* until the vaccine rolls out Drive infection rates to "zero Covid" | |||
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"I'm hoping this is the right place for this so here goes. Like so many other women I'm sure i've been asked to meet so many times since march. I've said no and get either ignored, abused or a variety of other possibilities. Right now we are in a countrywide lockdown so we aren't meant to be meeting anyway. So I was in tier 3 before lockdown and I think we are going back into our tiers when lockdown finishes. I keep being told on here when lockdown finishes we can meet.. 3rd Dec? I honestly don't belive we will be able to meet, but even if we are should we really? As I said I was in tier 3 previously so can 4 weeks of lockdown really reduce our risk that quickly? I totally understand about students coming home, people visiting at Christmas and I think this was one reason we are in countrywide lockdown to ensure we don't have a non contact Christmas. I've hopefully got my son in london coming up to WFH for most of dec/Christmas and he will be not meeting anyone else but his dad/step mum . I'm just pointing this out as I don't want anyone to think I'm perfect and "holier than thou". Even if the government can't legally put us into tiers from 3 Dec and therfore we could legally meet should we really? Surely it's still our responsibility to still reduce our contact with others unless really necessary? Yes to support bubbles, childcare, yes meeting for good mental health etc but meeting for random sex is not an essential. I am "gagging for it" just like the majority I'm sure but it's not essential. I just wonder what everyone's opinions are on meeting from 3rd Dec. I can see status's about "lockdown over in wales so lets meet" surely it's irresponsible? I just think we should all be sensible and think about the greater good.. I don't need the conspiracy theories here whatever reason.. You've got your opinion (even if it's wrong! Joking! ) and you're entitled to it.
I'll be back to check any replies! If any) later as I'm off to paint in the house.. (where the fairies live to be precise).
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"So after reading a lot of comments... What do ye think would be the best solution for this virus... Wont be popular but personally think just get on with it! X" It would be an ideal situation....but as infection rates rise....so does the need for hospital beds and more doctors and nurses... Ppe couldn't be properly provided during the first pandemic... I think it's impossible to just get on with it... But I can definitely respect your opinion on it | |||
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"So after reading a lot of comments... What do ye think would be the best solution for this virus... Wont be popular but personally think just get on with it! X It would be an ideal situation....but as infection rates rise....so does the need for hospital beds and more doctors and nurses... Ppe couldn't be properly provided during the first pandemic... I think it's impossible to just get on with it... But I can definitely respect your opinion on it "Thank u ! X | |||
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"So after reading a lot of comments... What do ye think would be the best solution for this virus... An effective track trace isolate and support system Evidence based policy Close the borders Compulsory government run quarantine More masking in schools, potentially other mitigation strategies Clearer communication from on high Protect all of us from death *and other medium to long term effects* until the vaccine rolls out Drive infection rates to "zero Covid"" Def some sensible ideas...but what would the cost of all these measures be.. Surely the onus should be on the public to take responsibility for their actions and do what's right as regards masks,hand sanitizing,being knowledgable enough to know if they have covid or if they are waiting on a test then they must stay at home.. | |||
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"People won’t change, they will always put their own needs first before others it’s just the way it is. A quick flick through all updates will show up numerous people asking for meets. Those people should have their profiles removed. " This crisis has brought the worst out of people (even still going into shops with no mask on)some yes for medical reasons but others have poured abuse out at the shop staff when asking why so they don,t bother anymore now at my local co-op, and yes I agree about others on here haveing their profiles being removed from fab. | |||
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"So after reading a lot of comments... What do ye think would be the best solution for this virus... An effective track trace isolate and support system Evidence based policy Close the borders Compulsory government run quarantine More masking in schools, potentially other mitigation strategies Clearer communication from on high Protect all of us from death *and other medium to long term effects* until the vaccine rolls out Drive infection rates to "zero Covid" Def some sensible ideas...but what would the cost of all these measures be.. Surely the onus should be on the public to take responsibility for their actions and do what's right as regards masks,hand sanitizing,being knowledgable enough to know if they have covid or if they are waiting on a test then they must stay at home.. " Isnt one of the issues that some people cant afford to stay at home? The schools and universities issue is also a factor. | |||
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"So after reading a lot of comments... What do ye think would be the best solution for this virus... An effective track trace isolate and support system Evidence based policy Close the borders Compulsory government run quarantine More masking in schools, potentially other mitigation strategies Clearer communication from on high Protect all of us from death *and other medium to long term effects* until the vaccine rolls out Drive infection rates to "zero Covid" Def some sensible ideas...but what would the cost of all these measures be.. Surely the onus should be on the public to take responsibility for their actions and do what's right as regards masks,hand sanitizing,being knowledgable enough to know if they have covid or if they are waiting on a test then they must stay at home.. " What's the cost of not doing it? What has the billions on the waste of time track and trace got us? In Australia government quarantine is user pays. (This is for limited people coming in from overseas) Australia and New Zealand largely have their lives back because they did stuff that worked. They're islands, I hear you cry. So is the UK (except for Ireland, but Ireland are doing better than we are). Trusting people to just do the right thing clearly isn't working and will have us on stop start lockdown, hospitals approaching overwhelm, huge death and disability toll. It's crap. | |||
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"People won’t change, they will always put their own needs first before others it’s just the way it is. A quick flick through all updates will show up numerous people asking for meets. Those people should have their profiles removed. This crisis has brought the worst out of people (even still going into shops with no mask on)some yes for medical reasons but others have poured abuse out at the shop staff when asking why so they don,t bother anymore now at my local co-op, and yes I agree about others on here haveing their profiles being removed from fab. " I get asked daily several times to meet would never dream of reporting them just decline for goodness sake! And I work in one of the big supermarkets and yes wear my mask but see a few without masks daily is none of my business to confront them! Jeez!! X | |||
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